Re: [arch-general] Is there a burning tool able to replace K3b?

2014-01-21 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Ralf Mardorf
 wrote:
> Hi,
> To stop a green drive spinning up and down again and again I removed
> gvfs from my machine, but each time I used K3b seemingly a KDE thingy
> makes my drive spin up and down again and again until I reboot.

You can check whether k3b is starting some KDE4 service in the Service
Manager in KDE System Settings [1]. If some service starts, you should
be able to stop it there, too.

Lukas

[1] http://userbase.kde.org/System_Settings/Startup_and_Shutdown


Re: [arch-general] Is there a burning tool able to replace K3b?

2014-01-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Hussam Al-Tayeb  wrote:

> On Tuesday 21 January 2014 12:28:35 Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > cdrtools- last release: yesterday ;-)
>
> Speaking of cdrtools, do you have some git or svn or something similar 
> repository of cdrtools so people can monitor development or do you 
> simply do release tarballs every so often?

Development is done with SCCS. Once I have added network support for SCCS, 
there will be a public repository.

Currently there is a tar archive every time a useful and consistent state has 
been reached. This is something that might be a problem with a public version 
control as there will be commits when a group of files are consistent but not 
necessarily the whole project.

During the past 7 years, there was aprox. one tarball per month.

Jörg

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Re: [arch-general] Is there a burning tool able to replace K3b?

2014-01-21 Thread Hussam Al-Tayeb
On Tuesday 21 January 2014 12:28:35 Joerg Schilling wrote:
> cdrtools  - last release: yesterday ;-)

Speaking of cdrtools, do you have some git or svn or something similar 
repository of cdrtools so people can monitor development or do you 
simply do release tarballs every so often?

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Re: [arch-general] Is there a burning tool able to replace K3b?

2014-01-21 Thread William Houser

On 01/21/2014 10:43 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

Hi,

a short question but a long story, perhaps somebody could give some
hints.

To stop a green drive spinning up and down again and again I removed
gvfs from my machine, but each time I used K3b seemingly a KDE thingy
makes my drive spin up and down again and again until I reboot.

Is anybody aware if developers of desktop environments care about things
like green drives, optional vs hard dependencies?

I also noticed that if using a desktop environment's GUI editor as root
this could cause serious issues nowadays.

Am I the only one who tries to get rid of desktop environments and the
software, such as the desktop environment's editors?

I'm experimenting with getting rid of Xfce and I'm testing Jwm at the
moment, but generating the menu is PITA and to find good replacements
for editors, file browsers etc. isn't easy.

Does anybody know burning software that is nearly as comfortable as K3b
is, but that doesn't need GNOME or KDE dependencies?

Regards,
Ralf


Ralf...

I've got an off the wall possible solution:

The only thing that comes close to K3b is a program called "imgburn." 
The only bad news is that it is only available for Windows. The good 
news is that it works perfectly well in Wine.


Just thouoght I'd throw that out there. I understand your position on 
installing libraries for desktops you have no intention of using. You 
should really re-consider though. KDE has some of the best open-source 
software out there, and in terms of disk space, it's really not a big deal.


I've tried every disk burner out there. K3b is the only useful one that 
doesn't ruin several blank disks before finally getting it right. 
(brasero), and opens iso's directly through double clicks unlike some 
others (xfburn)


All that being said, There is an option but there again...give it 
another consideration.


Bill


Re: [arch-general] python-dbus upgrade 1.20-2 fails

2014-01-21 Thread Maxime Gauduin
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Mark Lee  wrote:

> Salutations,
>
> Upgrading from python-dbus-1.20-1 to 1.20-2 on Arch Linux 64 bit fails
> with the following error:
> --
> error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_compat.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_dbus.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_expat_introspect_parser.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_version.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/bus.cpython-33.pyc exists
> in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/connection.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/decorators.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/exceptions.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/lowlevel.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/proxies.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/service.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/types.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/mainloop/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> python-dbus:
> /usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/mainloop/__pycache__/glib.cpython-33.pyc
> exists in filesystem
> Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
> --
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
> --
> Mark Lee 
>
>
Same here, they were probably missing from the previous python-dbus package
and were generated afterwards. These are now part of python-dbus, you can
safely force the install: "sudo pacman -S --force python-dbus".

Cheers,
-- 
Maxime


[arch-general] python-dbus upgrade 1.20-2 fails

2014-01-21 Thread Mark Lee
Salutations,

Upgrading from python-dbus-1.20-1 to 1.20-2 on Arch Linux 64 bit fails
with the following error:
--
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-33.pyc 
exists in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_compat.cpython-33.pyc exists 
in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_dbus.cpython-33.pyc exists 
in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_expat_introspect_parser.cpython-33.pyc
 exists in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/_version.cpython-33.pyc 
exists in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/bus.cpython-33.pyc exists in 
filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/connection.cpython-33.pyc 
exists in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/decorators.cpython-33.pyc 
exists in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/exceptions.cpython-33.pyc 
exists in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/lowlevel.cpython-33.pyc 
exists in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/proxies.cpython-33.pyc exists 
in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/service.cpython-33.pyc exists 
in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/__pycache__/types.cpython-33.pyc exists 
in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/mainloop/__pycache__/__init__.cpython-33.pyc
 exists in filesystem
python-dbus: 
/usr/lib/python3.3/site-packages/dbus/mainloop/__pycache__/glib.cpython-33.pyc 
exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
--

Regards,
Mark

-- 
Mark Lee 



Re: [arch-general] Is there a burning tool able to replace K3b?

2014-01-21 Thread Joerg Schilling
Simon Hanna  wrote:

> you can check the list of applications in the wiki [1]
> No, you are not the only one who doesn't like GNOME, KDE, XFCE, ...
> have you tried i3?
> about replacement software:
> try using command line tools, just search the link below for all sorts of
> applications...
>
> cheers,
> simon
>
> [1]:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_Applications#CD.2FDVD_burning_tools

In general, it depends on what people like to do...

xcdroast needs GNOME libraries and did not evolve since a while, but I added 
support for hidden audio tracks, when I added support for hidden tracks to 
cdrtools in January 2010.

In general, one big problem is that _all_ GUIs for UNIX seem to have stopped 
development with respect to adding new features to support related features 
from cdrtools. It seems that Debian was very successfull when they started to 
attack cdrtools 10 years ago.

I use cdrtools from command line...

k3b may be the most actively developed GUI (with respect to features) besides 
the russion GUI that only works on Win-DOS.

GUIs:

k3b - no new version since January 2011

xcdroast- no new version since February 2010

brasero - insists in running as root thus insecure (GUIs should not 
have 
  enhanced privileges) even though cdrtools manage priv 
separation
  Seems to have less features than xcdroast

writing software:

cdrkit  - > 100 open bugs, no development since May 2007
cdrdao  - no bugfix since 2009, no development since May 2005
dvd+rw-tools- no bugfix since Mach 2008, no development since Jan 2007
cdrskin - not ready for general use (no UDF, no DVD-video, audio 
deficient)
cdrtools- last release: yesterday ;-)

The question in general is: are people still interested in optical disks?

Jörg

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Re: [arch-general] Is there a burning tool able to replace K3b?

2014-01-21 Thread Simon Hanna
you can check the list of applications in the wiki [1]
No, you are not the only one who doesn't like GNOME, KDE, XFCE, ...
have you tried i3?
about replacement software:
try using command line tools, just search the link below for all sorts of
applications...

cheers,
simon

[1]:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_Applications#CD.2FDVD_burning_tools


2014/1/21 Ralf Mardorf 

> Hi,
>
> a short question but a long story, perhaps somebody could give some
> hints.
>
> To stop a green drive spinning up and down again and again I removed
> gvfs from my machine, but each time I used K3b seemingly a KDE thingy
> makes my drive spin up and down again and again until I reboot.
>
> Is anybody aware if developers of desktop environments care about things
> like green drives, optional vs hard dependencies?
>
> I also noticed that if using a desktop environment's GUI editor as root
> this could cause serious issues nowadays.
>
> Am I the only one who tries to get rid of desktop environments and the
> software, such as the desktop environment's editors?
>
> I'm experimenting with getting rid of Xfce and I'm testing Jwm at the
> moment, but generating the menu is PITA and to find good replacements
> for editors, file browsers etc. isn't easy.
>
> Does anybody know burning software that is nearly as comfortable as K3b
> is, but that doesn't need GNOME or KDE dependencies?
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
>


[arch-general] Is there a burning tool able to replace K3b?

2014-01-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi,

a short question but a long story, perhaps somebody could give some
hints.

To stop a green drive spinning up and down again and again I removed
gvfs from my machine, but each time I used K3b seemingly a KDE thingy
makes my drive spin up and down again and again until I reboot.

Is anybody aware if developers of desktop environments care about things
like green drives, optional vs hard dependencies?

I also noticed that if using a desktop environment's GUI editor as root
this could cause serious issues nowadays.

Am I the only one who tries to get rid of desktop environments and the
software, such as the desktop environment's editors?

I'm experimenting with getting rid of Xfce and I'm testing Jwm at the
moment, but generating the menu is PITA and to find good replacements
for editors, file browsers etc. isn't easy.

Does anybody know burning software that is nearly as comfortable as K3b
is, but that doesn't need GNOME or KDE dependencies?

Regards,
Ralf