Re: [arch-general] [Classroom] Intro. to PKGBUILD class - April 19th
Hey, Unfortunately I couldn't be there but thank you for the logs, I'll take a look. Looking forward to seeing more. Best Regards, Humberto Carvalho On 04/19/2014 11:05 PM, fsckd wrote: > Class is over. :) Those of you who missed it, don't worry. Logs are > available. > > 9:30 UTC class > https://archwomen.org/media/project_classroom/classlogs/2014-04-19-pkgbuilds_09%3a30-UTC.txt > > > 16:00 UTC class > https://archwomen.org/media/project_classroom/classlogs/2014-04-19-pkgbuilds_16%3a00-UTC.txt > > > Regards, > fsckd
Re: [arch-general] [Classroom] Intro. to PKGBUILD class - April 19th
Class is over. :) Those of you who missed it, don't worry. Logs are available. 9:30 UTC class https://archwomen.org/media/project_classroom/classlogs/2014-04-19-pkgbuilds_09%3a30-UTC.txt 16:00 UTC class https://archwomen.org/media/project_classroom/classlogs/2014-04-19-pkgbuilds_16%3a00-UTC.txt Regards, fsckd
Re: [arch-general] How do I preserve changes to okular.desktop?
On 04/19/2014 10:07 PM, Chris Moline wrote: > Hi, every time I upgrade okular chrome starts opening two instances. One > has a dialong saying it couldn't find '%I' and the other has the document I > want. All I have to do to fix it is to remove %I from the .desktop file. > How do I preserve this change across upgrades? Alternatively, how do I get > the '%I' to be expanded properly? > > Sorry if this is asked a lot. My search-fu was not up to the task. > Have you tried putting it in ~/.local/share/applications ? -- Note: My last name is not Krejzi.
[arch-general] How do I preserve changes to okular.desktop?
Hi, every time I upgrade okular chrome starts opening two instances. One has a dialong saying it couldn't find '%I' and the other has the document I want. All I have to do to fix it is to remove %I from the .desktop file. How do I preserve this change across upgrades? Alternatively, how do I get the '%I' to be expanded properly? Sorry if this is asked a lot. My search-fu was not up to the task.
Re: [arch-general] How to track packages dropped from the repos?
Am 19.04.2014 12:39, schrieb Lorenzo Bandieri: Hi list, Sometimes packages are silently dropped from the repos. This happened for example in the last few days with mash 0.2.0-3, which apparently I installed as a dependency for gnome (I guess it is no longer required). I follow arch-general, arch-dev-public and aur-general, and as far as I know, this change wasn't announced in any of these lists. I recall other examples in the last 2-3 years (this is roughly the time I've used arch consistently), but now I don't remember the packages involved. Currently I try to keep track of these changes by running e.g. "pacman -Qm" and "pacman -Qdt" once in a while, so it's no big deal. However, I think it would be interesting to know from a more "official" channel when a package is dropped and why. This would allow users to be aware of the change and decide whether the package is still needed (and act accordingly, e.g. if the package is dropped to AUR, one could subscribe to comments or check for updates) or can be safely uninstalled. I searched without finding anything decisive (e.g. these threads [1] [2] suggest possible workarounds in the form of scripts). I wonder if better methods to track dropped packages exist; if not, would it be feasible to implement a solution, e.g. a list where dropped packages are announced, similar to "last rites" in gentoo? Thanks for your time, Lorenzo [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=147574 [2] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125665 Hi Lorenzo, I am using yaourt to track packages from aur (and possibly packages moved from official repos to aur). Note, that it is not an official peace of software and you should read the wiki carefully. [1] Best wishes, Max [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Yaourt
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 04/19/14 at 11:23pm, GSC wrote: > On 2014年04月19日 23:02, message wrote: > > > >Have also tried: > > > >... > >export PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin > >export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre > > > >but also unsuccessful recognition of the java command. > Are you joking? Why are you using a custom java and not for example aur/jre or the openjdk packages in the normal repo. -- Jelle van der Waa signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [arch-general] lxc: systemd-udev-trigger resets host kbd & mouse settings
On 18/04/14 11:17 PM, Carl Schaefer wrote: > On Fri, 2014-04-18 at 17:45 -0400, Daniel Micay wrote: >> On 18/04/14 05:40 PM, Carl Schaefer wrote: >>> I've just started playing with lxc, and found that if I create a >>> container with: >>> >>> # lxc-create -n arch -t archlinux >>> >>> and then start it: >>> >>> # lxc-start -n arch >>> >>> it resets my X keyboard map and mouse acceleration settings (which are >>> set by setxkbmap/xset/xinput), though mouse button remapping done by >>> xmodmap is not affected. >>> >>> I tracked it as far as the execution of: >>> >>> /usr/bin/udevadm trigger --type=devices --action=add >>> >>> in /usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udev-trigger.service, which seems to >>> write "add" to most of the "uevent" files under /sys/devices. I don't >>> know the reason for this, especially in a container, but disabling the >>> whole udev trigger service in the container keeps the host X input >>> settings intact without breaking anything obvious in the container (and >>> the container boots a lot faster now, too). >>> >>> I'd appreciate any thoughts on what systemd-udev-trigger is doing, >>> whether it's appropriate in a container, and if there's a better way to >>> keep a container from changing X input settings on the host. >>> Carl >> >> Do you have these issues with systemd-nspawn? > > no, systemd-nspawn does not reset host X input settings; the nspawn > container makes /sys read-only, so "udevadm trigger" in the container > can't succeed, and in fact the unit file's condition keeps it from even > trying: > > nspawn# systemctl status systemd-udev-trigger > * systemd-udev-trigger.service - udev Coldplug all Devices >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udev-trigger.service; > static) >Active: inactive (dead) >start condition failed at Fri 2014-04-18 20:21:24 EDT; 28s ago >ConditionPathIsReadWrite=/sys was not met > >> Containers are not yet completely solid. One of the most notable flaws >> is the complete lack of namespacing for the cgroup filesystem. These >> kind of things are worked around by systemd via various hacks, so >> perhaps lxc is missing something. > > I agree it seems something is missing, but I'm less clear about what & > from where... :-) > Carl AFAIK the /sys filesystem and most (all?) of the submounts are not yet namespaced. Any cgroup created on the host will be visible in the container, etc. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 2014-04-19 11:47, arch-general-requ...@archlinux.org wrote: -- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 11:47:21 + From: message the bashrc file was changed: ... export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre export PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin This solved the problem, my failure to write the export paths in the correct order. $ echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl:/usr/local/java/jre/bin $ ls /usr/local/java/jre/bin ControlPanel j9vm javad.options jdmpview klist rmid classic java javaw jextract ktabrmiregistry ikeycmd java_vm javaws keytool pack200 tnameserv ikeyman javadjcontrol kinit policytool unpack200 Thank you! :)
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
> export PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin > export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre This is wrong, you can't use $JAVA_HOME *before* it is set. Also, you can always check $PATH in a shell with "echo $PATH" What are contents of /usr/local/java/jre/bin ? -- damjan
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 2014-04-19 11:47, arch-general-requ...@archlinux.org wrote: -- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:35:16 + From: message Subject: Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment On 2014-04-18 12:35, message wrote: Readers, IBM Java was installed into the directory 'usr/local': $ /usr/local/java/jre/bin/java -version java version "1.8.0" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pxi3280ea-20130422_01) IBM J9 VM (build 2.7, JRE 1.8.0 Linux x86-32 20130419_145797 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled) J9VM - R27_Java827_Beta_3_20130419_2138_B145797 JIT - r13.b02_20130419_36653 GC - R27_Java827_Beta_3_20130419_2138_B145797 J9CL - 20130419_145797) JCL - 20130410_01 based on Oracle jdk8-b80 The file 'bashrc' was edited: No joke; latest bashrc edit: GNU nano 2.2.6 File: ./.bashrc # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi export PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre In home directory, keyboard 'ja+TAB' (i.e. use unix auto-complete function) shows: $ ja jack_alias jack_monitor_client jack_bufsizejack_netsource jack_connectjack_property jack_disconnect jack_rec jack_evmon jack_samplerate jack_freewheel jack_server_control jack_impulse_grabberjack_session_notify jack_iodelayjack_showtime jack_latent_client jack_simple_client jack_load jack_simple_session_client jack_load_test jack_transport jack_lspjack_transport_client jack_metro jack_unload jack_midi_dump jack_wait jack_midiseqjackd jack_midisine jasper 'Java' does not appear in the list above, but java is installed as shown originally above. -- digest-mode subscriber; please cc to maintain message thread
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 2014年04月19日 23:02, message wrote: Have also tried: ... export PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre but also unsuccessful recognition of the java command. Are you joking?
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 2014-04-19 11:47, arch-general-requ...@archlinux.org wrote: -- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 11:47:21 + From: message Subject: Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment IBM Java was installed into the directory 'usr/local': $ /usr/local/java/jre/bin/java -version java version "1.8.0" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pxi3280ea-20130422_01) IBM J9 VM (build 2.7, JRE 1.8.0 Linux x86-32 20130419_145797 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled) J9VM - R27_Java827_Beta_3_20130419_2138_B145797 JIT - r13.b02_20130419_36653 GC - R27_Java827_Beta_3_20130419_2138_B145797 J9CL - 20130419_145797) JCL - 20130410_01 based on Oracle jdk8-b80 The file 'bashrc' was edited: GNU nano 2.2.6 File: ./.bashrc # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java After saving the bashrc file, sign-out and sign-in, the java program is not accessible via command terminal 'java -version', the entire path has to be entered. What is my mistake please? The path was changed to: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java but the command terminal 'java -version' is not recognised. java recognition fails after change of the file and sign-out, sign-in: # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java Have also tried: ... export PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre but also unsuccessful recognition of the java command.
Re: [arch-general] eye candy wall paper
Thanks for the link, I really enjoy this Arch-artwork. I just want to annotate , that the author of this artwork has got much more on his own website at https://media.jpope.org/ Cheers, bebe
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 19-04-2014 08.35, message wrote: > The path was changed to: > > export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java > > but the command terminal 'java -version' is not recognised. ---end quoted text--- Sorry, what I meant to say was this: export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre export PATH=$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin Regards, Gavin. -- Gavin Costello gav...@gmail.com
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 19-04-2014 08.35, message wrote: > The path was changed to: > > export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java > > but the command terminal 'java -version' is not recognised. ---end quoted text--- Hello, Try this: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/java/jre Perhaps you would be more comfortable with another distribution like Ubuntu? HTH, Gavin. -- Gavin Costello gav...@gmail.com
Re: [arch-general] eye candy wall paper
Thanks for suggesting those, really nice work! :)
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 2014-04-19 08:35, arch-general-requ...@archlinux.org wrote: -- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 08:35:16 + From: message Subject: Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment On 2014-04-18 12:35, message wrote: Readers, IBM Java was installed into the directory 'usr/local': $ /usr/local/java/jre/bin/java -version java version "1.8.0" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pxi3280ea-20130422_01) IBM J9 VM (build 2.7, JRE 1.8.0 Linux x86-32 20130419_145797 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled) J9VM - R27_Java827_Beta_3_20130419_2138_B145797 JIT - r13.b02_20130419_36653 GC - R27_Java827_Beta_3_20130419_2138_B145797 J9CL - 20130419_145797) JCL - 20130410_01 based on Oracle jdk8-b80 The file 'bashrc' was edited: GNU nano 2.2.6 File: ./.bashrc # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java After saving the bashrc file, sign-out and sign-in, the java program is not accessible via command terminal 'java -version', the entire path has to be entered. What is my mistake please? The path was changed to: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java but the command terminal 'java -version' is not recognised. java recognition fails after change of the file and sign-out, sign-in: # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java Any other advice please? -- digest-mode subscriber; please cc to maintain message thread
Re: [arch-general] eye candy wall paper
Very nice! On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 5:28 AM, message wrote: > Readers, > > For those interested, someone has published some nice gnu/linux logos > wallpaper, including Archlinux: https://dspora.org/posts/53049 >
Re: [arch-general] KDE update and baloo
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Genes Lists wrote: > On 04/17/2014 10:37 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: > >> >> Is it with KDE PIM? I remember a discussion in the release ML that >> baloo was somewhat broken in PIM. I dunno if that was fixed or not. >> >> No not using PIM. I killed off all the baloo processes - short term > fix.There really should be an off button on this kind of thing. > What I found is after runing the current pacman update, then I did the following. Logout and back in to kde. Then once logged back in went to the kde system settings and into Desktop Search, and simply add the user home directory to the list not to search. Apply the changed setting, and then logout and back in (there was a slight delay to the logout process at this point due to the initial baloo processes running but I just waited out the half minute or so till it logged out). There was be a baloo file cleaner process running when I logged back in, which on my machines seemed to run for a few minutes only, and then stop. At that point if I checked the file: $ cat .kde4/share/config/baloofilerc and found that at the top that there were already the lines: [Basic Settings] Indexing-Enabled=false [General] several other lines after this. At that point baloo quietened down and there were no further issues with baloo but I guess you need to have a little patience during the initial running of the processes mentioned above, so it is a short term issue only. I have seen a gentoo thread which suggests that allowing baloo to index email does give a very efficient search even for tens of thousands of mails, but of course the initial indexing process does take a little time and CPU cycles for several minutes depending on how many directories and files are in the mail area - but once that is complete then it is suggested that it works extremely well. -- mike c
[arch-general] How to track packages dropped from the repos?
Hi list, Sometimes packages are silently dropped from the repos. This happened for example in the last few days with mash 0.2.0-3, which apparently I installed as a dependency for gnome (I guess it is no longer required). I follow arch-general, arch-dev-public and aur-general, and as far as I know, this change wasn't announced in any of these lists. I recall other examples in the last 2-3 years (this is roughly the time I've used arch consistently), but now I don't remember the packages involved. Currently I try to keep track of these changes by running e.g. "pacman -Qm" and "pacman -Qdt" once in a while, so it's no big deal. However, I think it would be interesting to know from a more "official" channel when a package is dropped and why. This would allow users to be aware of the change and decide whether the package is still needed (and act accordingly, e.g. if the package is dropped to AUR, one could subscribe to comments or check for updates) or can be safely uninstalled. I searched without finding anything decisive (e.g. these threads [1] [2] suggest possible workarounds in the form of scripts). I wonder if better methods to track dropped packages exist; if not, would it be feasible to implement a solution, e.g. a list where dropped packages are announced, similar to "last rites" in gentoo? Thanks for your time, Lorenzo [1] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=147574 [2] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125665
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
Then you shouldn' t be using archlinux.
[arch-general] eye candy wall paper
Readers, For those interested, someone has published some nice gnu/linux logos wallpaper, including Archlinux: https://dspora.org/posts/53049
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 2014-04-18 12:42, arch-general-requ...@archlinux.org wrote: -- Message: 8 Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:42:40 +0200 From: Heiko Becker Subject: Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment Am 18.04.2014 14:35 schrieb "message" : Readers, IBM Java was installed into the directory 'usr/local': $ /usr/local/java/jre/bin/java -version java version "1.8.0" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pxi3280ea-20130422_01) IBM J9 VM (build 2.7, JRE 1.8.0 Linux x86-32 20130419_145797 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled) J9VM - R27_Java827_Beta_3_20130419_2138_B145797 JIT - r13.b02_20130419_36653 GC - R27_Java827_Beta_3_20130419_2138_B145797 J9CL - 20130419_145797) JCL - 20130410_01 based on Oracle jdk8-b80 The file 'bashrc' was edited: GNU nano 2.2.6 File: ./.bashrc # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java It is correct to add multiple paths to the export PATH command: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java -- digest-mode subscriber; please cc to maintain message thread
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 04/19/2014 04:35 PM, message wrote: The path was changed to: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java but the command terminal 'java -version' is not recognised. export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/java/jre/bin/
Re: [arch-general] ibm java installation path environment
On 2014-04-18 12:35, message wrote: Readers, IBM Java was installed into the directory 'usr/local': $ /usr/local/java/jre/bin/java -version java version "1.8.0" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pxi3280ea-20130422_01) IBM J9 VM (build 2.7, JRE 1.8.0 Linux x86-32 20130419_145797 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled) J9VM - R27_Java827_Beta_3_20130419_2138_B145797 JIT - r13.b02_20130419_36653 GC - R27_Java827_Beta_3_20130419_2138_B145797 J9CL - 20130419_145797) JCL - 20130410_01 based on Oracle jdk8-b80 The file 'bashrc' was edited: GNU nano 2.2.6 File: ./.bashrc # .bashrc # User specific aliases and functions # Source global definitions if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then . /etc/bashrc fi export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java After saving the bashrc file, sign-out and sign-in, the java program is not accessible via command terminal 'java -version', the entire path has to be entered. What is my mistake please? The path was changed to: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/java/jre/bin/java but the command terminal 'java -version' is not recognised.
