Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.

2010-09-03 Thread Nilesh Govindarajan

On 09/03/2010 03:51 AM, A Rojas wrote:


That's a known dbus issue, it should be fixed in dbus-core from [testing]




Oh that's a dbus issue?
I was wondering what's wrong with my system.

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Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.

2010-09-02 Thread A Rojas
Robert Howard wrote:

> Perhaps I misstated my point. My system is pretty snappy when it's working
> right (it should be as I've got 8GB RAM and 8 CPU cores) but since the
> last update Dolphin literally stop working for short periods when you
> interact with files (mouse over, click, right click). It's a total freeze
> of the application and it can take anywhere from 15-20 seconds to respond
> again.
> 

That's a known dbus issue, it should be fixed in dbus-core from [testing]




Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.

2010-09-02 Thread Robert Howard
Perhaps I misstated my point. My system is pretty snappy when it's working
right (it should be as I've got 8GB RAM and 8 CPU cores) but since the last
update Dolphin literally stop working for short periods when you interact
with files (mouse over, click, right click). It's a total freeze of the
application and it can take anywhere from 15-20 seconds to respond again.


On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Shridhar Daithankar <
ghodech...@ghodechhap.net> wrote:

> On Thursday 02 September 2010 04:53:24 David C. Rankin wrote:
> > On 09/01/2010 01:46 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:
> > > KDE is fancy, but snappy it is not.
> >
> > Funny, the windows side of the world found out that gigabyte desktops
> > aren't that snappy either. Wonder if there is a common thread.
>
> IMO KDE part of lost snappiness is due to addtional technical layers and
> latency between intra-daemon communication(nepomuk, strigi, akonadi and
> what
> not) rather than resource hog. It can be tuned down to bare minimum
> necessary.
>
> I have not seen the lag anytime but I have a 4GB ram machine. however
> konqueror and rekonq are far more snappier than anything else. firefox OTOH
> damn its slow to start. even soffice starts faster than it. I have no
> extensions installed.
>
> Another issue to consider is consistency of lag. on KDE side, its pretty
> much
> constant. On windows 7 machine at my work, its click and pray, despite of
> having a 2GB RAM machine.(1GB is taken by VM but lot is still free).
> Compared
> to KDE, that really unbearable.
>
>
> --
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>  Shridhar
>


Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.

2010-09-01 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Thursday 02 September 2010 04:53:24 David C. Rankin wrote:
> On 09/01/2010 01:46 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:
> > KDE is fancy, but snappy it is not.
> 
> Funny, the windows side of the world found out that gigabyte desktops
> aren't that snappy either. Wonder if there is a common thread.

IMO KDE part of lost snappiness is due to addtional technical layers and 
latency between intra-daemon communication(nepomuk, strigi, akonadi and what 
not) rather than resource hog. It can be tuned down to bare minimum necessary.

I have not seen the lag anytime but I have a 4GB ram machine. however 
konqueror and rekonq are far more snappier than anything else. firefox OTOH 
damn its slow to start. even soffice starts faster than it. I have no 
extensions installed.

Another issue to consider is consistency of lag. on KDE side, its pretty much 
constant. On windows 7 machine at my work, its click and pray, despite of 
having a 2GB RAM machine.(1GB is taken by VM but lot is still free). Compared 
to KDE, that really unbearable.


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Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.

2010-09-01 Thread David C. Rankin

On 09/01/2010 01:46 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:

KDE is fancy, but snappy it is not.


Funny, the windows side of the world found out that gigabyte desktops aren't 
that snappy either. Wonder if there is a common thread.


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Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.

2010-09-01 Thread David C. Rankin

On 09/01/2010 12:59 PM, Robert Howard wrote:

I noticed the wallpaper changer thing myself and think it's great to finally
have that horrible dropdown list replaced with something decent. On the
other hand, since the 4.5 update my Plasma-workspace process has crashed
everytime I login to KDE via KDM. It respawns 15 seconds later and works
fine but it always dies once right after login. Also, dolphin seems to be
really slow and laggy.

Rob


Rob,

	Don't forget, for plasma restarts, there are only 3 commands required. If you 
find you need to restart plasma (or just to check for messages during restart), 
put the following in a little script called 'rsplasma' (or whatever you want to 
call it):


#!/bin/bash
kbuildsycoca4 # 'k'de 'build' 'sy'stem 'co'nfig 'ca'che
kquitapp plasma-desktop >/dev/null 2>&1  # quit plasma
kstart plasma-desktop & >/dev/null 2>&1  # restart the darn thing and pray

get rid of the '>/dev/null 2>&1' to see the bazillion lines of gibberish and 
errors. That may help narrow the issue.


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Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.

2010-09-01 Thread Ray Rashif
On 2 September 2010 01:59, Robert Howard  wrote:
> I noticed the wallpaper changer thing myself and think it's great to finally
> have that horrible dropdown list replaced with something decent. On the
> other hand, since the 4.5 update my Plasma-workspace process has crashed
> everytime I login to KDE via KDM. It respawns 15 seconds later and works
> fine but it always dies once right after login. Also, dolphin seems to be
> really slow and laggy.

Dolphin has never failed to make me forget that I have more than 256MB
of RAM, with or without thumbnailing. In contrast, Nautilus just
works, let alone PCManFM or Thunar, even with thumbnailing on.

KDE is fancy, but snappy it is not.


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Re: [arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.

2010-09-01 Thread Robert Howard
I noticed the wallpaper changer thing myself and think it's great to finally
have that horrible dropdown list replaced with something decent. On the
other hand, since the 4.5 update my Plasma-workspace process has crashed
everytime I login to KDE via KDM. It respawns 15 seconds later and works
fine but it always dies once right after login. Also, dolphin seems to be
really slow and laggy.

Rob

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:06 PM, David C. Rankin <
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:

> Guys,
>
>Even from a kde4 hater, kde 4.5.1-1 is looking much better than
> prior releases. Way to go Arch on the packaging. It is starting to add some
> of the efficiencies k3 had that k4 has lacked. Simple case-in-point, just
> rt-click to change the desktop wp and you now have a clean 3 column
> thumbnail setup that provides 300% more info than the old slow single column
> thumbnail list. Not earth-shattering, but it is good to see some of the
> really awkward dialogs getting reworked.
>
>Don't get me wrong, k4 still needs work, but I'm more than willing
> to tip my hat and recognize good progress when it has been made despite the
> 2.5 years of hell I've been though with that desktop. (as an aside - the 3D
> chessboard wallpaper is just killer)
>
>We shall see where it goes...
>
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[arch-general] kde 4.5.1-1 looks much better.

2010-09-01 Thread David C. Rankin

Guys,

	Even from a kde4 hater, kde 4.5.1-1 is looking much better than prior releases. 
Way to go Arch on the packaging. It is starting to add some of the efficiencies 
k3 had that k4 has lacked. Simple case-in-point, just rt-click to change the 
desktop wp and you now have a clean 3 column thumbnail setup that provides 300% 
more info than the old slow single column thumbnail list. Not earth-shattering, 
but it is good to see some of the really awkward dialogs getting reworked.


	Don't get me wrong, k4 still needs work, but I'm more than willing to tip my 
hat and recognize good progress when it has been made despite the 2.5 years of 
hell I've been though with that desktop. (as an aside - the 3D chessboard 
wallpaper is just killer)


We shall see where it goes...

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