[AsburyPark] Two River Screening of Greetings from Asbury Park
Attached please find today's Asbury Park Press article on the first public screening of the 22 minute trailer of a "work in progress " of the film Greetings from Asbury Park held at Monmouth University at the Two River Film Festival. http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051107/NEWS01/511070325/1004 Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 Language Solved
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What cause of action would your lawsuit plead Many things I assume including following a plan that is not valid (March), violating the legally valid plan (June), violating public trust, etc. , and what relief would > it seek? Do you think drawing and quartering might be too heavy handed? > What "crime" would you allege has been committed if you talk to the > FBI? Oh Tom, must you ask? If what I say is true (and it is, just read for yourself) do you not think crime(s) have been committed? As I said before, the best we have to hope for is incompetence. It is attitudes like yours in the face of apparent malfeasance that have allowed such corruption to fester in NJ. No one can explain what has or is going on here. If the glove fits, you must acquit. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 Language Solved
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have given an > ultimatium to the City to come clean and fire Aaron. If not, lawsuit > and FBI time. Enough is enough. What cause of action would your lawsuit plead, and what relief would it seek? What "crime" would you allege has been committed if you talk to the FBI? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] New file uploaded to AsburyPark
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the AsburyPark group. File: /plannin board report.pdf Uploaded by : dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description : Planning Board Recommendations You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/files/plannin%20board%20report.pdf To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] C-8 Language Solved
I finally have been able to see ALL of the recommendations made by the Planning Board in reviewing the March Draft of the Plan. If you recall, the City's position is that the March Draft is what was adopted by Ordinance #2607. That Ordinance also addresses the various PB recommendations, either accepting or objecting each one. I could not ascertain whether the Ordinance addressed ALL of the recommendations. It is my undersstanding that the City was obligated to address ALL of the recommendations by either accepting them or explaining when a recommendation was object and not to be incorporated. I note that Ordinance #2607 contains nothing about C-8. Here is what the PB recommends regarding C-8 - DWELLING UNIT DISTRIBUTION On page 77 of the Draft Waterfront Redevelopment Plan, the Dwelling Unit Chart indicates that on Block 176, 224 units are to be constructed. The true number of floors/levels should be included in the chart. 300 OCEAN MILE The board recommends that this structure be removed and therefore the 64 bonus units be omitted. In addition, the developer is to loose the previously agreed to bonus of 64 units for having redesigned the building facade. Parking requirements on Block 176 is to be adjusted according to the number of units to be built. -- Now one of the main differences between the March and June versions of the plan is that these concerns/recommendations are ADDRESSED. In fact, it appears as if a compromise was reached and incorporated, in effect, being accepted by the City. Firstly, the number of stories (16) was added in the Dwelling Unit Distribution chart with the caveat that if demolished, the site would be subject to the height controls for Block 161 (3, 4 & stories). The City is OBLIGATED to address the PB recommendations. I don;t know if others were not addressed, but it is clear that if the City disavows the June version of the plan, then it cannot have validly adopted the March plan by Ordinance #2607 because it is silent on this recommendation. If the City wanted to object to it, it could have (but didn't) and explained it as it did with other recommendations in the ordinance. Whether Aaron is technically correct that the June version, because it does not adopt the PB rrecommendation in whole (outright demolition) would have to go back to the PB (Maybe it did) remains to be seen. But it is clear that the June version of the Plan was specifically created to address this recommendation. I suspect that John Clarke was almost ready to say so until Faiella kicked him in the shins and started speaking for him. I have given an ultimatium to the City to come clean and fire Aaron. If not, lawsuit and FBI time. Enough is enough. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] THE FOUNDING FATHERS BELIEVED IN TERM LIMITS....THEY SPECIFICALLY
made clear they did not want professional politicians squatting in office..They wanted to urge turnover to get government fresh with new ideas...CLEARLY 2 TERMS IS ENOUGH IN ASBURY PARK...8 YEARS on the council is ENOUGH UNLESS OF COURSE CERTAIN PEOPLE HAVE CERTAIN POLS IN THEIR POCKETOF COURSE THEY DON'T WANT CHANGETHE FOUNDERS ALSO TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE.....
an they are taking the election very seriously.WORD TO THE WISE.DO NOT IMPEDE VOTERS REV PARREOTT...LIKE YOU DID IN THE COUNCIL ELECTION.YOU ARE BEING WATCHED.CLOSELY..The trend is for more minorities to vote Republicanwhether the crooked Dems LIKE IT OR NOT.THERE WILL BE NO VOTER INTIMIDATION IN INNER CITY JERSEY ANYMORE..THE SAME POOR PEOPLE AND UNION WORKERS ARE TIRED OF BEING REAMED BY THE DEMS AND GETTING NOTHING FOR THEIR VOTE.Vote Republican in the electionIF THE REPUBLICANS RAN ASBURY PARK THIS CITY WOULD BE ON THE ROAD TO SUCCESSINSTEADWELLWE'RE SCREWED! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] WHEN CAN I LOOK FORWARD TO THE GREATER ASBURY PARK TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION
jumping into the fray.I WANT KOPERWEIS.DAN THE APPRAISOR.SCHNEIDER..LAMBERTON..THE RADIO CHICK..ALL ON IT.AND AS AN ADDED BONUS I WANT THE GREAT..JOEY D. ON IT.thats rightJoey is starting to step up.go get them Joey.. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] HOW MUCH IS AARON KICKING BACK TO BRUNO...SANDERS AND
LOFFARTO.Lets get this straight.Aaron reps the city in development but Asbury Partners pays him...WOWWHAT NUT SET THAT UPAnd whenever Aaron comes up the 3 stooges hide.What better way to pay off the 3 blind mice than through AaronPerhaps Aaron donates money to some bogus organization in Asbury who funnels it over to the Boyz.Does Rev 'Shoot em' in the back' Parreott have such an organization..? The FBI and IRS need to begin scrutinizing Aaron's money flows from FISH.THE MORE I LOOK AT THIS THE MORE I THINK AARON IS GREASING THE WHEELS! oh...my sources say the authorities are looking into it! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: STAGGER TERMS-Term Limits
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I disagree. You are referring to who can be on a ballot, which is > different than who can be a candidate. There are candidates out there > who aren't on the ballot, and anyone can take office if they win the > vote, be they on the ballot or not (write ins). Term limits by > contrast disqualify one from taking office even if they receive the > most votes, so that limits me from fully using my right to vote. > A distinction without a difference I suggest. How can someone be a legitimate candidate for an office that they cannot assume? Can the Governator be a presidential candidate? No. Term limits just another one of the many elections/voting limitations. There used to be a law that you had to own property to vote. That is no different (in that it is a limitation) than a minimum age for voting. You just don;t like the specific law. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Unidentified Signs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tom's warning is > ridiculous. Let them show me an agreement that the city allowed them > to keep the signs on its property. Now go get me a sign and call me. So if I park my car on City Property without an "agreement" it becomes anyone's car, just because I'm breaking the law for by parking there? Let me follow this through - according to your analysis, I can go all over Monmouth County and take every sign off every piece of government property and utiltity pole and they all belong to me! I can target all the Democrat signs and they can't do anything about it because once I take them they are my signs! WOW! GOOD STUFF TO KNOW! I guess you should go to Court with the fellow up there in Northern Monmouth County who was arrested 2 weeks ago for taking signs down. He can use your help. I predict that next week when you go to Be Green, next to the Delay mug shot and the Scooter mug shot (which they proudly display on the fridge) we will also see mug shots of Dan and Joe D, the dreaded Sign Bandits of AP. Someone alert TheSmokingGun.com! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Unidentified Signs
Title: [AsburyPark] Re: Unidentified Signs At 7:31 PM + 11/7/05, bluebishop82 wrote: Telephone and light poles aren't owned by the City either. You better check with the phone company and JCP&L on whether they think your signs on thier property is "legal" despite what Fred thinks. Do you only read what you want to read? Did you see the last sentence of my message? You must have since you replied to it and copied it verbatim in your reply. Please have another look counselor. I know in NY both mayorial candidates recently received thousands of summonses for posting on public property and utility poles. Asbury Park is not New York. See: http://tinyurl.com/ac53b --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 6:54 PM + 11/7/05, dfsavgny wrote: > >Not if they are placed on public property such as the 35 circle or on > >lamp posts. BTW, placing them on such property is illegal in itself. > >Not only can we get those who printed them for violation of election > >laws, but for littering as well. > > Sorry Dan... it's another "only in Asbury Park" situation. The issue of political signs on public property was discussed ad nauseum in April in anticipation of the May Municipal Election. It was the opinion of the City Attorney that there was no prohibition against political signs placed on public property provided that the sign a) did not obstruct or interfere with the public's right of way, b) posed no safety hazard and c) that the placing of such signs conformed to the ordinance restricting the time such a sign is allowed to be posted. (FYI, that's 45 days prior to and 10 days after an election.) As far as I know there has been no change in the ordinance since that opinion was issued. I asked the City Attorney by email on Saturday to clarify and he has not responded as of yet. > > Having said that, telephone and light poles are generally NOT public property. > > ~joe > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- ___ Joseph D'Andrea ~ http://www.west21.com/ ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEST21.com Internet services for the 21st Century webhosting ~ co-location ~ Webcatalog programming ~ Database design YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] C-8 - CAFRA
Because I have gotten used to not doing my own work and running down this C-8 jazz I have had further correspondence with NJDEP. I couldn't jive what Reidy said the other night about amending the CAFRA permit. Reidy said C-8 would be new work because it wasn't reviewed by NJDEP and thus, its demolition would have to wait. Conversely, Wesley Lake and North Beach could proceed because those plans were reviewed at the time of the CAFRA permit. Thus, I questioned the earlier response I was given by NJDEP in which it answered that it did in fact consider a part 10 and part 16-story building on C-8 in assessing shadows and wind deflection. I questioned it because if it did not have plans for the building how could it assess what impacts it might have? I was told today that it reviewed the plans for the Esperanza submitted to the TRC. I then questioned how that could be since it was my understanding that the plans for the Esperanza are subsequent to both the application for CAFRA and the issuance of the permit itself. I then finally got a phone call from NJDEP (no more email I guess, too much of a record) and they confirmed that yes, they saw the studies for shadow and wind deflection AFTER issuance of the CAFRA permit. Thus, I noted that there are sections in the CAFRA report that specifically deal with shadows being cast on the beach, and accordingly, then it could not be that a part 10- and part 16-story building was considered at the time of the CAFRA permit was applied for or when it was issued. NJDEP really doesn't have an answer to that and must look in its files. Something is very strange here. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: STAGGER TERMS-Term Limits
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Term limits are an even worse idea. I don't like any law that takes > > away my right to vote for who I want. > > > There are laws already in place that limit who you can vote for. Are > there not laws limiting who can be a candidate or what they must do to > be a candidate? Term limits are just that, one more form of limitation. > You just don;t like that law, not laws in general that limit who you > can vote for. I disagree. You are referring to who can be on a ballot, which is different than who can be a candidate. There are candidates out there who aren't on the ballot, and anyone can take office if they win the vote, be they on the ballot or not (write ins). Term limits by contrast disqualify one from taking office even if they receive the most votes, so that limits me from fully using my right to vote. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Unidentified Signs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sorry Dan... it's another "only in Asbury Park" situation. The issue of political signs on public property was discussed ad nauseum in April in anticipation of the May Municipal Election. It was the opinion of the City Attorney that there was no prohibition against political signs placed on public property provided that the sign a) did not obstruct or interfere with the public's right of way, b) posed no safety hazard and c) that the placing of such signs conformed to the ordinance restricting the time such a sign is allowed to be posted. (FYI, that's 45 days prior to and 10 days after an election.) As far as I know there has been no change in the ordinance since that opinion was issued. I asked the City Attorney by email on Saturday to clarify and he has not responded as of yet. > > Having said that, telephone and light poles are generally NOT public property. > Okay, so maybe no littering, although I suggest that the city is permitting licensing on its property for free but what else is new. But on public property they can be taken with a charge of stealing. It would be like you picking up a soda bottle at your curb and I tell you its mine and want you arrested. Tom's warning is ridiculous. Let them show me an agreement that the city allowed them to keep the signs on its property. Now go get me a sign and call me. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: STAGGER TERMS-Term Limits
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Term limits are an even worse idea. I don't like any law that takes > away my right to vote for who I want. > There are laws already in place that limit who you can vote for. Are there not laws limiting who can be a candidate or what they must do to be a candidate? Term limits are just that, one more form of limitation. You just don;t like that law, not laws in general that limit who you can vote for. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Unidentified Signs
Telephone and light poles aren't owned by the City either. You better check with the phone company and JCP&L on whether they think your signs on thier property is "legal" despite what Fred thinks. I know in NY both mayorial candidates recently received thousands of summonses for posting on public property and utility poles. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 6:54 PM + 11/7/05, dfsavgny wrote: > >Not if they are placed on public property such as the 35 circle or on > >lamp posts. BTW, placing them on such property is illegal in itself. > >Not only can we get those who printed them for violation of election > >laws, but for littering as well. > > Sorry Dan... it's another "only in Asbury Park" situation. The issue of political signs on public property was discussed ad nauseum in April in anticipation of the May Municipal Election. It was the opinion of the City Attorney that there was no prohibition against political signs placed on public property provided that the sign a) did not obstruct or interfere with the public's right of way, b) posed no safety hazard and c) that the placing of such signs conformed to the ordinance restricting the time such a sign is allowed to be posted. (FYI, that's 45 days prior to and 10 days after an election.) As far as I know there has been no change in the ordinance since that opinion was issued. I asked the City Attorney by email on Saturday to clarify and he has not responded as of yet. > > Having said that, telephone and light poles are generally NOT public property. > > ~joe > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Unidentified Signs
At 6:54 PM + 11/7/05, dfsavgny wrote: >Not if they are placed on public property such as the 35 circle or on >lamp posts. BTW, placing them on such property is illegal in itself. >Not only can we get those who printed them for violation of election >laws, but for littering as well. Sorry Dan... it's another "only in Asbury Park" situation. The issue of political signs on public property was discussed ad nauseum in April in anticipation of the May Municipal Election. It was the opinion of the City Attorney that there was no prohibition against political signs placed on public property provided that the sign a) did not obstruct or interfere with the public's right of way, b) posed no safety hazard and c) that the placing of such signs conformed to the ordinance restricting the time such a sign is allowed to be posted. (FYI, that's 45 days prior to and 10 days after an election.) As far as I know there has been no change in the ordinance since that opinion was issued. I asked the City Attorney by email on Saturday to clarify and he has not responded as of yet. Having said that, telephone and light poles are generally NOT public property. ~joe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: STAGGER TERMS-Term Limits
Term limits are an even worse idea. I don't like any law that takes away my right to vote for who I want. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Unidentified Signs
At 5:51 PM + 11/7/05, dfsavgny wrote: >--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> look further on that site, you'll see that Bruno, Loffredo, >Sanders and Johnson have already registered as candidates for the >2009 municipal election. There does not appear to be a filing for a >committee named "The Future is Here" and that would appear to be a > > violation of NJ election law. > >Joe, are you saying there has to be a separate filing for the >committee? I see that is the name of their ticket. Just so we're clear. On Saturday morning I saw no filing on the NJ Election Law Enforcement Commission's website for "The Future Is Here." I did see filings for the individual 2009 municipal candidates: Bruno, Johnson, Loffredo and Sanders. Two other people -- who independently looked at the ELEC website from their own computers on Saturday -- confirmed that there was no entry for "The Future Is Here." That's why on Saturday morning I said: "There does not appear to be a filing for a committee named "The Future is Here" and that would appear to be a violation of NJ election law." Since things aren't always what they appear to be, I took a look again this morning. Guess what... Now there is a filing for "The Future Is Here" on the ELEC website with a filing date on 10/17/2005. Things that make you go "h" ~joe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Unidentified Signs
I agree with you that placing signs on public property is not legal. However, placing one there does not void the proprietary interest of the owner. I can't park my car on public property, but that doesn't mean I don't own it anymore if I leave it there. If you take possession of the sign, be it on public property or not, you are stealing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Those signs are proprietary. If someone "grabs" one they are > > committing a theft punishable with a $500.00 fine and 30 days in > > prison. Encouraging them to do so is conspiracy, and it carries the > > same penalties. > > > > Just thought everyone should know. > > > Not if they are placed on public property such as the 35 circle or on > lamp posts. BTW, placing them on such property is illegal in itself. > Not only can we get those who printed them for violation of election > laws, but for littering as well. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: C-8 What Happen?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > John Clark would have made Richard Nixon proud. > The developer's lawyer did the talking for the consultant. > > New Councilman James Keady thinks Mr. Aarron, the city's redevelopment > attorney should reign. > Do you remember when the old council was going to replace Phil Konvis & > Terry Weldon's associates? > Aaron said outside the meeting that he does not plan to leave his job. > Does anybody remember when Mr. Aaron did step down? He did for a couple of > weeks. > And Deputy Mayor James Bruno on Friday said: "The majority of the council is > behind Jim Aaron." > Do you remember when Councilman John Loffredo and followers wanted C-8 taken > down. I wrote to Nancy Sheilds congratulating her on the article and especially for refraining from editorializing. However, I did acknowledge that she ommitted certain facts, most notably the fact tha Clarke could not remember WHAT he did or WHY he did it. Also, she failed to report that Faiella did most of the "testifying". In the end, they brough John Clarke in to "fall on his sword" like a good Roman, yet we are still no closer to knowing WHY a June plan was even created, let alone submitted to NJDEP. If submitting the wrong plan was a mistake, so be it, that is small compared to WHY the plan was created if NO ONE apparently asked for it. The council should have excoriated Faiella for interupting Keady's questioning of Clarke. It was an insult to the council and citizens. If that is what they had in mind they could have left Clarke in Trenton. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: STAGGER TERMS
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In answer to the above, I make an observation about governance in > general: Throughout history, never does a group in power > voluntarily cede said power to another group. Power transfers only > with a vote when playing by the rules of sovereignty, or war when > the rules of sovereignty are abandoned. In either case power wins. > > For a local example, I have never seen the other 3 sections of > Asbury cede power to the South West side. Once those condos are > built, as far as votes go, the new "west side" will start just past > Grand Avenue. > > My argument is not based upon fear of the new condo owners, nor do I > allege they will be doing something "bad" by taking over. I would > too if I were in thier shoes. I'm simply pointing out the reality > that the power base will be centered there, so I argue to disperse > the power throughout the City instead. It is a very populist > argument. I thought this group would be proud of me! > I said your ward system had merit. In any event, it will take 10 years or more for this new west side to come about at this rate. I am more interested in term limits. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Unidentified Signs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Those signs are proprietary. If someone "grabs" one they are > committing a theft punishable with a $500.00 fine and 30 days in > prison. Encouraging them to do so is conspiracy, and it carries the > same penalties. > > Just thought everyone should know. > Not if they are placed on public property such as the 35 circle or on lamp posts. BTW, placing them on such property is illegal in itself. Not only can we get those who printed them for violation of election laws, but for littering as well. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] C-8 What Happen?
John Clark would have made Richard Nixon proud. The developer's lawyer did the talking for the consultant. New Councilman James Keady thinks Mr. Aarron, the city's redevelopment attorney should reign. Do you remember when the old council was going to replace Phil Konvis & Terry Weldon's associates? Aaron said outside the meeting that he does not plan to leave his job. Does anybody remember when Mr. Aaron did step down? He did for a couple of weeks. And Deputy Mayor James Bruno on Friday said: "The majority of the council is behind Jim Aaron." Do you remember when Councilman John Loffredo and followers wanted C-8 taken down. Planner "sorry" for submission Consultant's error acknowledged Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/7/05BY NANCY SHIELDSCOASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU ASBURY PARK — John Clarke, planning consultant for beachfront developer Asbury Partners, apologized both to the City Council and developer last week, saying it was his fault that the wrong version of the 2002 waterfront development plan had been disseminated to the public and to state environmental officials.The Trenton-based planner told the council Wednesday night that he had produced a draft for the final approval meeting in June 2002 that would have included language to limit how tall one of the new oceanfront condominium projects could be if the old abandoned skeleton C-8 building was taken down and not built out.But the council did not act on that latest draft, Clarke and city officials say, after the city's attorney, James Aaron, said they could not because the new draft had not been through the city Planning Board process.The council approved a plan that night that will allow a building on the site to go up to 16 stories high even though buildings on neighboring blocks are stricted to eight stories."I had produced another draft," Clarke said. "I was under the mistaken impression that that's what passed. That was my error and I apologize to the developer and council."Clarke had the wrong version of the plan printed up for City Clerk Stephen M. Kay to give out, and the wrong version was posted on the city Web site and also sent in with the city's application for a Coastal Area Facility Review Act (CAFRA) permit, which the state approved last year.The problem of the wrong draft being used came up last month when Metro Homes, a Hoboken-based developer which planned to build out the unfinished condominium, said it would not be able to do so because the pilings poured in 1989 to hold up the steel could not be certified as safe under today's standards.Metro Homes now plans to take down the old steel, dig out the pilings and start over to build the Esperanza condominiums which have the city's approval.To remedy the problem on the CAFRA permit, city officials and Clarke and Asbury Partners met with the DEP, which has asked the city to submit an application for a minor modification in the permit, and a line-by-line analysis of the differences which were said to be nominal except for the C-8 height issue.The DEP will allow a 15-day public comment period as part of the change before deciding on issuing the amended permit. When the state evaluated the beachfront project the first time around, it was for the height of the building on the C-8 site to be up to 16 stories.And Councilman John Loffredo, who also serves on the Planning Board, said the board wanted the 16- and 10-story- heights allowed for the building. "Our argument was if it went higher, the project didn't have to spread out so far," he said.Daniel F. Sciannameo, a New York appraiser who owns a house in Asbury Park, has launched his own investigation of what happened with the plans. He said at the council meeting Wednesday that Aaron should resign or be fired by the council. New council member James Keady said he agreed.Aaron said outside the meeting that he does not plan to leave his job. And Deputy Mayor James Bruno on Friday said: "The majority of the council is behind Jim Aaron." YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: STAGGER TERMS
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom, I'm glad you posted this, reminded me to compliment you on your > article in opposition to staggered terms. Your ward system has its > appeal, however, I am a little concerned with a large part of your > rationale. You seem to using fear tactics with regard to the >future of > the city being controlled by the thousands of newcomers who will >buy > the condos that you seem to think were a good idea (and in fact >you > seem to place the credit with our Future Uber Council). > > On the one hand you delight in the fact that we will have 3,100+ >new > units but fear that the residents of these units will monopolize >local > elections. I am aslo a little confused with yoour use of the word >OUR > when speaking about the AP elections. Do you vote here? In answer to the above, I make an observation about governance in general: Throughout history, never does a group in power voluntarily cede said power to another group. Power transfers only with a vote when playing by the rules of sovereignty, or war when the rules of sovereignty are abandoned. In either case power wins. For a local example, I have never seen the other 3 sections of Asbury cede power to the South West side. Once those condos are built, as far as votes go, the new "west side" will start just past Grand Avenue. My argument is not based upon fear of the new condo owners, nor do I allege they will be doing something "bad" by taking over. I would too if I were in thier shoes. I'm simply pointing out the reality that the power base will be centered there, so I argue to disperse the power throughout the City instead. It is a very populist argument. I thought this group would be proud of me! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Unidentified Signs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps someone can grap one of those signs and see what company > printed them up. Then we can ask who authorized their printing. If > someone grabs the sign I'll do the investigation. Those signs are proprietary. If someone "grabs" one they are committing a theft punishable with a $500.00 fine and 30 days in prison. Encouraging them to do so is conspiracy, and it carries the same penalties. Just thought everyone should know. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: STAGGER TERMS
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let's not get off the central issue: Staggered Terms is a bad idea. > Vote NO! tomorrow against staggered terms (as often as you can ;-]). > Tom, I'm glad you posted this, reminded me to compliment you on your article in opposition to staggered terms. Your ward system has its appeal, however, I am a little concerned with a large part of your rationale. You seem to using fear tactics with regard to the future of the city being controlled by the thousands of newcomers who will buy the condos that you seem to think were a good idea (and in fact you seem to place the credit with our Future Uber Council). On the one hand you delight in the fact that we will have 3,100+ new units but fear that the residents of these units will monopolize local elections. I am aslo a little confused with yoour use of the word OUR when speaking about the AP elections. Do you vote here? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Unidentified Signs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > look further on that site, you'll see that Bruno, Loffredo, Sanders and Johnson have already registered as candidates for the 2009 municipal election. There does not appear to be a filing for a committee named "The Future is Here" and that would appear to be a > violation of NJ election law. Joe, are you saying there has to be a separate filing for the committee? I see that is the name of their ticket. >A new group is supporting a new red NO STAGGER TERM sign. >The sign read STAGGER TERM = $$$ CORRUPTION > no address, no treasurers' name > Another apparent violation of election law. Sort of tells you > something about the people who are working so hard at the last minute > to attempt to defeat the will of the people to self-determinance. > Perhaps someone can grap one of those signs and see what company printed them up. Then we can ask who authorized their printing. If someone grabs the sign I'll do the investigation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: STAGGER TERMS
Let's not get off the central issue: Staggered Terms is a bad idea. Vote NO! tomorrow against staggered terms (as often as you can ;-]). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: STAGGER TERMS.... deep pockets?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been contacted by Jim Bruno on the issue of whether or not a candidate committee can spend campaign money on defeating a ballot question and he tells me that according to "the Election Office" the Future Is Here is "well within our right to spend our money" on the referendum. I have not verified this for myself. ~joe > Joe, I noticed that "Future" wrote a $1,250 check for the Mayor's Ball and listed it as a donation. If that included the candidates' tickets to the ball is that permissable under election laws? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: STAGGER TERMS.... deep pockets?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been contacted by Jim Bruno on the issue of whether or not a candidate committee can spend campaign money on defeating a ballot question and he tells me that according to "the Election Office" the Future Is Here is "well within our right to spend our money" on the referendum. I have not verified this for myself. ~joe I looked at the NJ-Elec site and saw the "Future". Thanks for the info Joe and get back to us on this issue. Perhaps AP|AC should mount something for TERM LIMITS. Maybe our "Future" Wunderkinds can do something about the state of the Casino, CH, et al by 2009. If these boys can't do it in 8 years, they probably can't do it in 80. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] STAGGER TERMS.... deep pockets?
At 6:52 AM -0500 11/6/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Joe, >Thank you for your input, again. >Jerry I have been contacted by Jim Bruno on the issue of whether or not a candidate committee can spend campaign money on defeating a ballot question and he tells me that according to "the Election Office" the Future Is Here is "well within our right to spend our money" on the referendum. I have not verified this for myself. ~joe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] House/Apartment for rent?
Hello everyone, A friend of mine is looking for an apartment to rent in Asbury Park. She ideally wants to get a place by herself, but she also has a friend who would move in with her if there aren't any 1-bedroom places in her price range. Does anyone know of something available? You can either email me & I'll forward her the message, or contact her directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks much, Heather the Santander Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Another shooting in AP
Another shooting in ap. When will we do something about this? Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
