[AsburyPark] Asbury Radio: In Their Own Words

2006-11-06 Thread MarioAPNJ





Hear the truth for yourselves by listening to the last 10 
minutes of last Thursday's program at Asbury Radio:  http://www.asburyradio.com/audio/2006-11-02.wma  
(Use your player's slider to get to that point.) 

 
Maureen wrote:"An Inconvenient Truth!! Very witty 
  and very on the money.  Please take a listen when I pose the 
  question to last week's Repubs and Dems  on Asbury Radio. I asked, 
  essentially, if the role of elected officials should  be to screen their 
  comments for publicity reasons. The guests each said that  they didn't 
  want their public officials acting as PR people. The sound is up on 
  www.asburyradio.com right 
  now. Thanks,  Maureen"


 
Maureen was very insistent with her question on the 
positive spin and PR point.  She had to ask the question 3 or 4 times. 
 


Tommy's reply:   "That wasn't 
  the question or the answer Mareueen. Why would you say 
  that?"
 
It wasn't The question. It was several questions, 
rephrased in different ways by Maureen, on the same single point to get those 
guys to answer her. I count her asking the question 8 times.
 
Stu Koperweis was probably most honest in his answer about money and 
getting re-elected.  Maureen's response to him, "Amen,"  ended the 
program.
=
 
Other revealing highlights If you had the time to listen to the last 45 
minutes of the program:
 
1. A call-in from Dan (dfsavgny) to ask about the snide 
remarks about Frank Pallone and Barney Frank and the offer of 
cash for kiss pictures.
 
2. Tommy's distraction that the caller is "a left winger here in town who 
dislikes me" and who is getting personal. And "I've been offering for a 
long time pictures of Frank Pallone in Asbury Park."  
 
3. Stu Koperweis, AP Republican Chairman, asking that they all stay on the 
issues, but acknowledging that Tommy "would like to get into a little 
bit of that [mudslinging]."
 
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That wasn't the question or the answer Mareueen.Why would you say 
that?--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
restore881FM@... wrote:>> An Inconvenient Truth!! Very witty 
and very on the money.> Please take a listen when I pose the question to 
last week's Repubs and Dems > on Asbury Radio. I asked, essentially, 
if the role of elected officials should > be to screen their comments 
for publicity reasons. The guests each said that > they didn't want 
their public officials acting as PR people.> The sound is up on 
www.asburyradio.com right now.> Thanks,> Maureen> 
> > Maureen Nevin> Asbury Radio -"The Radio Voice of Asbury 
Park"> 88.1FM - "6" Years on the Air!!> Asbury's Own Live Talk 
Showmailto:AsburyRa[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 601 Bangs Avenue> Listen 8 - 10 
PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or> Listen Live or Later on the Web http://www.asburyradio.com/> 
Call the show 732-775-0821> Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463> 
Speak up - It's America!!>
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread restore881FM




You can hear my posing this question, not once but repeatedly from 9:55 on... Just click on the audio on the home page and move the lever to the right.
Maureen
 
Maureen NevinAsbury Radio -"The Radio Voice of Asbury Park"88.1FM - "6" Years on the Air!!Asbury's Own Live Talk Showmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]601 Bangs AvenueListen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM orListen Live or Later on the Web http://www.asburyradio.com/Call the show 732-775-0821Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463Speak up - It's America!!
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread charlie leonard



jack -   im sure the fence will be fixed.  the one side facning kinglsy wasnt done by nature.  it was done by something falling too far, crashing into the fence.  im sure they are well aware of it, and it will be fixed.   after all, its more of a safty thing.  if something happened, it would be on their hands.    so now lets say the fence is fixed, everythings all right?   if not, what do you have in mind to make the block look better?  instead of saying whats bad, or not right.   what could be different?  charlie 


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread charlie leonard



"now admit it jack, you have never seen any kids playing on that pile...come on"     i saw kids playing in a construction site in middletown the other day.  the site was fully fenced in, and looked great.   yet, the kids were still in there.  go figure. 


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread charlie leonard



"I was there today. I didn't even notice it I had my eyes on the new sidewalks. See you look for the bad. "     i think its becasue asbury partners are not exactly the most well liked group of people.  if it were a different developer working in the area, would the miss hap with the fence be an issue?  would the fence looking the way it did before the hole be an issue?  (people complained the rubble pile shouldnt even be there a few months back.  but, if it werent there.  how would things run??  it is a working site.  it cant look too pretty.   maybe a different fence would be better?    however, you figure for all the years that the city had its run down motels and buildings on the waterfront. half caving in, invested with who knows what.  not even fenced in.  just open to the public.   no one complained on here then, did they?  i never heard
 anyone.  so with the holes in the fence fixed, the fence is fine in my eyes. 


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread charlie leonard



well jack, if he is calling you a liar, maybe you should email him and talk about it.  beasue i dont want to hear you battle it out with  him back and forth, trying to get to the bottom of it!  pretty sure no one else does either.   stick to asbury park things!   no personal situations 


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread charlie leonard



if the fence were fixed, would the fence then be the problem?    do you really think the people that go to the stone pony care that there is a fenced in pile of rubble???  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 
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[AsburyPark] Happy Medium

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
Let's be thankful for what progress there is - new infrastructure, etc. 
But let's also be honest things should be farther along - certainly 
with the waterfront. With regard to construction sites, etc., - I see 
them every day in NYC. Much larger in scope. In much more dense areas. 
It could be done better here. This is our home. Certainly one must 
expect disruption during construction - but, the sites could and should 
be completely fenced. Certainly so since some, for instance, the rock 
crushing operation, will be of relativelylong duration. It's not 
looking at the glance half-empty. It's not unreasonable. It's just 
asking the developerto respectwhere we live, play, etc. It doesn'tlook 
good and it can easily look better. The groups here can agree on some 
things. There is some progress yes. There are more things that need to 
be done and that could be done better. Not unreasonable positions on 
either side. Hopefully, we are all looking for the same thing - to 
developour city in the best way possible. 




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
I just think there are more important things to worry about. Do what 
you got to do. It's your time.



Hey, if I was a kid, i'd probably be playing there.
> Hopefully nobody will get hurt.
> If you're ok with a broken down fence, cool.
> Why is it wrong for me not to be?
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > I see kids  playing by the railroad tracks maybe that should be 
> > fenced in too.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I've seen kids in there twice in the past 3 weeks, while walking 
my 
> > dog.
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > i live down the street from that construction site, and i 
ride 
> > the cicuit at least 2 times a 
> > > > day, and i have NEVER EVER see any kids playing on that pile, 
so 
> > come on you are just 
> > > > trying to make a big deal out of nothing...i agree with you 
about 
> > the litter
> > > > 
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Listen, the one block i'm talking about doesn't look like a 
> > typical construction site. 
> > > The 
> > > > > fence is a joke, and it's been a joke for more then a year. 
> > Even worse, because the 
> > > fence 
> > > > is 
> > > > > down in places, kids play in there. Do you think it's a 
safe 
> > place for kids to play? I 
> > > don't.
> > > > > As for the new curbs, sidewalk and streets...great. Big 
> > improvement. I agree. On the 
> > > > other 
> > > > > hand, have you seen how much litter there is in the ocean 
front 
> > area? I've never lived 
> > > in 
> > > > a 
> > > > > place where people so greatly disrespect their city by 
> > littering. Am I wrong about that 
> > > > too?
> > > > > Jack
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I can tell you as a regular citizen IT IS A CONSTRUCTION 
SITE 
> > with 
> > > > > > magor infrastructure work. I don't care how it looks down 
> > there. Send 
> > > > > > him pictures of the new curbs, sidewalks and streets too 
and 
> > tell him 
> > > > > > how shitty that looks.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  I wonder if the city would be embarrassed to know that 
it 
> > took me, a
> > > > > > > regular citizen, to get the corner of Kingsley and 
Sunset 
> > cleaned 
> > > > > > up?
> > > > > > > Then again, they probably never noticed what a mess it 
was.
> > > > > > > I'd urge everybody here to go and take a look at the 
rubble 
> > yard in
> > > > > > > it's current state. It's horrible. Go there, take 
pictures 
> > and flood
> > > > > > > the councils email address's with them.
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" 
 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Why sn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Jack, there are one set of rules for Asbury Partners 
and 
> > another 
> > > > > > set 
> > > > > > > > for everyone else. While it was intimated to me by 
the 
> > City (when 
> > > > > > I was 
> > > > > > > > not considered so much as an enemy) that Partners is 
near 
> > > > > > impossible to 
> > > > > > > > deal with, the master must let the dog know who is 
> > walking who. 
> > > > > > This 
> > > > > > > > development is like watching someone being pulled 
down 
> > the street 
> > > > > > by 
> > > > > > > > their dog. They shouldn't own one if they can' train 
it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Maybe I only do see the bad stuff

2006-11-06 Thread Hinge
Because I just noticed that on the Greetings from Asbury Park sign on Main, 
that announces 
upcoming events, it saysCodfather




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Hinge
Hey, if I was a kid, i'd probably be playing there.
Hopefully nobody will get hurt.
If you're ok with a broken down fence, cool.
Why is it wrong for me not to be?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> I see kids  playing by the railroad tracks maybe that should be 
> fenced in too.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've seen kids in there twice in the past 3 weeks, while walking my 
> dog.
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  wrote:
> > >
> > > i live down the street from that construction site, and i ride 
> the cicuit at least 2 times a 
> > > day, and i have NEVER EVER see any kids playing on that pile, so 
> come on you are just 
> > > trying to make a big deal out of nothing...i agree with you about 
> the litter
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Listen, the one block i'm talking about doesn't look like a 
> typical construction site. 
> > The 
> > > > fence is a joke, and it's been a joke for more then a year. 
> Even worse, because the 
> > fence 
> > > is 
> > > > down in places, kids play in there. Do you think it's a safe 
> place for kids to play? I 
> > don't.
> > > > As for the new curbs, sidewalk and streets...great. Big 
> improvement. I agree. On the 
> > > other 
> > > > hand, have you seen how much litter there is in the ocean front 
> area? I've never lived 
> > in 
> > > a 
> > > > place where people so greatly disrespect their city by 
> littering. Am I wrong about that 
> > > too?
> > > > Jack
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > I can tell you as a regular citizen IT IS A CONSTRUCTION SITE 
> with 
> > > > > magor infrastructure work. I don't care how it looks down 
> there. Send 
> > > > > him pictures of the new curbs, sidewalks and streets too and 
> tell him 
> > > > > how shitty that looks.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  I wonder if the city would be embarrassed to know that it 
> took me, a
> > > > > > regular citizen, to get the corner of Kingsley and Sunset 
> cleaned 
> > > > > up?
> > > > > > Then again, they probably never noticed what a mess it was.
> > > > > > I'd urge everybody here to go and take a look at the rubble 
> yard in
> > > > > > it's current state. It's horrible. Go there, take pictures 
> and flood
> > > > > > the councils email address's with them.
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  
> wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Why sn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Jack, there are one set of rules for Asbury Partners and 
> another 
> > > > > set 
> > > > > > > for everyone else. While it was intimated to me by the 
> City (when 
> > > > > I was 
> > > > > > > not considered so much as an enemy) that Partners is near 
> > > > > impossible to 
> > > > > > > deal with, the master must let the dog know who is 
> walking who. 
> > > > > This 
> > > > > > > development is like watching someone being pulled down 
> the street 
> > > > > by 
> > > > > > > their dog. They shouldn't own one if they can' train it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>

Maybe he took pictures.



 now admit it jack, you have never seen any kids playing on that 
pile...come on
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > And so was I. I see that area everyday.
> > I do agree it's nice to see the new sidewalks, and roads. 
> > And I don't just look for the bad. I guess it's easier for me to 
see something as big as a 
> > block then what might be underfoot.
> > Maybe i'm alone in my opinion about the fence. 
> > But, I'd rather speak up about it then keep it to myself.
> > Jack
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I was there today. I didn't even notice it I had my eyes on the 
new 
> > > sidewalks. See you look for the bad. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > First off, I don't always just complain. If that's your pet 
peeve, 
> > > you might as well add 
> > > > everybodies name to this post.
> > > > I know what this town looked like 3, 13, 23 and 33 years ago.
> > > > I've also seen plenty of construction sites in my life, and I 
think 
> > > much of this one looks like 
> > > > shit. Go look at that fence and tell me otherwise. 
> > > > Jack
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > hey hinge
> > > > > i only ever hear you complain...i dont ever hear you talk 
about 
> > > all the new streets that 
> > > > are 
> > > > > going in and the new sidewalks...this is a town under 
constuction 
> > > dudedo u 
> > > > remember 
> > > > > what this town looked like just 3 years agogive me a 
> > > break...rome wasnt built in a 
> > > > > day...you dont EVER have anything nice to say...
> > > > > sam
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some 
pictures 
> > > and
> > > > > > contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble 
yard near 
> > > the
> > > > > > Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one 
side, 
> > > and a
> > > > > > big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. 
Somebody
> > > > > > besides me needs to start cracking down on these 
bastards. Even 
> > > though
> > > > > > it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and 
other 
> > > beach
> > > > > > area places, and when they do, they are confronted with 
that 
> > > mess. Why
> > > > > > isn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Hinge
Are you calling me a liar?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  wrote:
> >
> >
> 
> Maybe he took pictures.
> 
> 
> 
>  now admit it jack, you have never seen any kids playing on that 
> pile...come on
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > And so was I. I see that area everyday.
> > > I do agree it's nice to see the new sidewalks, and roads. 
> > > And I don't just look for the bad. I guess it's easier for me to 
> see something as big as a 
> > > block then what might be underfoot.
> > > Maybe i'm alone in my opinion about the fence. 
> > > But, I'd rather speak up about it then keep it to myself.
> > > Jack
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I was there today. I didn't even notice it I had my eyes on the 
> new 
> > > > sidewalks. See you look for the bad. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > First off, I don't always just complain. If that's your pet 
> peeve, 
> > > > you might as well add 
> > > > > everybodies name to this post.
> > > > > I know what this town looked like 3, 13, 23 and 33 years ago.
> > > > > I've also seen plenty of construction sites in my life, and I 
> think 
> > > > much of this one looks like 
> > > > > shit. Go look at that fence and tell me otherwise. 
> > > > > Jack
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hey hinge
> > > > > > i only ever hear you complain...i dont ever hear you talk 
> about 
> > > > all the new streets that 
> > > > > are 
> > > > > > going in and the new sidewalks...this is a town under 
> constuction 
> > > > dudedo u 
> > > > > remember 
> > > > > > what this town looked like just 3 years agogive me a 
> > > > break...rome wasnt built in a 
> > > > > > day...you dont EVER have anything nice to say...
> > > > > > sam
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some 
> pictures 
> > > > and
> > > > > > > contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble 
> yard near 
> > > > the
> > > > > > > Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one 
> side, 
> > > > and a
> > > > > > > big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. 
> Somebody
> > > > > > > besides me needs to start cracking down on these 
> bastards. Even 
> > > > though
> > > > > > > it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and 
> other 
> > > > beach
> > > > > > > area places, and when they do, they are confronted with 
> that 
> > > > mess. Why
> > > > > > > isn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>

Maybe he took pictures.



 now admit it jack, you have never seen any kids playing on that 
pile...come on
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > And so was I. I see that area everyday.
> > I do agree it's nice to see the new sidewalks, and roads. 
> > And I don't just look for the bad. I guess it's easier for me to 
see something as big as a 
> > block then what might be underfoot.
> > Maybe i'm alone in my opinion about the fence. 
> > But, I'd rather speak up about it then keep it to myself.
> > Jack
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I was there today. I didn't even notice it I had my eyes on the 
new 
> > > sidewalks. See you look for the bad. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > First off, I don't always just complain. If that's your pet 
peeve, 
> > > you might as well add 
> > > > everybodies name to this post.
> > > > I know what this town looked like 3, 13, 23 and 33 years ago.
> > > > I've also seen plenty of construction sites in my life, and I 
think 
> > > much of this one looks like 
> > > > shit. Go look at that fence and tell me otherwise. 
> > > > Jack
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > hey hinge
> > > > > i only ever hear you complain...i dont ever hear you talk 
about 
> > > all the new streets that 
> > > > are 
> > > > > going in and the new sidewalks...this is a town under 
constuction 
> > > dudedo u 
> > > > remember 
> > > > > what this town looked like just 3 years agogive me a 
> > > break...rome wasnt built in a 
> > > > > day...you dont EVER have anything nice to say...
> > > > > sam
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some 
pictures 
> > > and
> > > > > > contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble 
yard near 
> > > the
> > > > > > Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one 
side, 
> > > and a
> > > > > > big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. 
Somebody
> > > > > > besides me needs to start cracking down on these 
bastards. Even 
> > > though
> > > > > > it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and 
other 
> > > beach
> > > > > > area places, and when they do, they are confronted with 
that 
> > > mess. Why
> > > > > > isn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
I see kids  playing by the railroad tracks maybe that should be 
fenced in too.





I've seen kids in there twice in the past 3 weeks, while walking my 
dog.
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  wrote:
> >
> > i live down the street from that construction site, and i ride 
the cicuit at least 2 times a 
> > day, and i have NEVER EVER see any kids playing on that pile, so 
come on you are just 
> > trying to make a big deal out of nothing...i agree with you about 
the litter
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Listen, the one block i'm talking about doesn't look like a 
typical construction site. 
> The 
> > > fence is a joke, and it's been a joke for more then a year. 
Even worse, because the 
> fence 
> > is 
> > > down in places, kids play in there. Do you think it's a safe 
place for kids to play? I 
> don't.
> > > As for the new curbs, sidewalk and streets...great. Big 
improvement. I agree. On the 
> > other 
> > > hand, have you seen how much litter there is in the ocean front 
area? I've never lived 
> in 
> > a 
> > > place where people so greatly disrespect their city by 
littering. Am I wrong about that 
> > too?
> > > Jack
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I can tell you as a regular citizen IT IS A CONSTRUCTION SITE 
with 
> > > > magor infrastructure work. I don't care how it looks down 
there. Send 
> > > > him pictures of the new curbs, sidewalks and streets too and 
tell him 
> > > > how shitty that looks.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  I wonder if the city would be embarrassed to know that it 
took me, a
> > > > > regular citizen, to get the corner of Kingsley and Sunset 
cleaned 
> > > > up?
> > > > > Then again, they probably never noticed what a mess it was.
> > > > > I'd urge everybody here to go and take a look at the rubble 
yard in
> > > > > it's current state. It's horrible. Go there, take pictures 
and flood
> > > > > the councils email address's with them.
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  
wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Why sn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jack, there are one set of rules for Asbury Partners and 
another 
> > > > set 
> > > > > > for everyone else. While it was intimated to me by the 
City (when 
> > > > I was 
> > > > > > not considered so much as an enemy) that Partners is near 
> > > > impossible to 
> > > > > > deal with, the master must let the dog know who is 
walking who. 
> > > > This 
> > > > > > development is like watching someone being pulled down 
the street 
> > > > by 
> > > > > > their dog. They shouldn't own one if they can' train it.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
Maybe you should call ABC News. But tell them you saw 200 kids it 
sounds better.



> > But, I'd rather speak up about it then keep it to myself.
> > Jack
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I was there today. I didn't even notice it I had my eyes on the 
new 
> > > sidewalks. See you look for the bad. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > First off, I don't always just complain. If that's your pet 
peeve, 
> > > you might as well add 
> > > > everybodies name to this post.
> > > > I know what this town looked like 3, 13, 23 and 33 years ago.
> > > > I've also seen plenty of construction sites in my life, and I 
think 
> > > much of this one looks like 
> > > > shit. Go look at that fence and tell me otherwise. 
> > > > Jack
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > hey hinge
> > > > > i only ever hear you complain...i dont ever hear you talk 
about 
> > > all the new streets that 
> > > > are 
> > > > > going in and the new sidewalks...this is a town under 
constuction 
> > > dudedo u 
> > > > remember 
> > > > > what this town looked like just 3 years agogive me a 
> > > break...rome wasnt built in a 
> > > > > day...you dont EVER have anything nice to say...
> > > > > sam
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some 
pictures 
> > > and
> > > > > > contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble 
yard near 
> > > the
> > > > > > Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one 
side, 
> > > and a
> > > > > > big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. 
Somebody
> > > > > > besides me needs to start cracking down on these 
bastards. Even 
> > > though
> > > > > > it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and 
other 
> > > beach
> > > > > > area places, and when they do, they are confronted with 
that 
> > > mess. Why
> > > > > > isn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread rolemover
now admit it jack, you have never seen any kids playing on that pile...come on

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And so was I. I see that area everyday.
> I do agree it's nice to see the new sidewalks, and roads. 
> And I don't just look for the bad. I guess it's easier for me to see 
> something as big as a 
> block then what might be underfoot.
> Maybe i'm alone in my opinion about the fence. 
> But, I'd rather speak up about it then keep it to myself.
> Jack
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > 
> > I was there today. I didn't even notice it I had my eyes on the new 
> > sidewalks. See you look for the bad. 
> > 
> > 
> > First off, I don't always just complain. If that's your pet peeve, 
> > you might as well add 
> > > everybodies name to this post.
> > > I know what this town looked like 3, 13, 23 and 33 years ago.
> > > I've also seen plenty of construction sites in my life, and I think 
> > much of this one looks like 
> > > shit. Go look at that fence and tell me otherwise. 
> > > Jack
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hey hinge
> > > > i only ever hear you complain...i dont ever hear you talk about 
> > all the new streets that 
> > > are 
> > > > going in and the new sidewalks...this is a town under constuction 
> > dudedo u 
> > > remember 
> > > > what this town looked like just 3 years agogive me a 
> > break...rome wasnt built in a 
> > > > day...you dont EVER have anything nice to say...
> > > > sam
> > > > 
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some pictures 
> > and
> > > > > contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble yard near 
> > the
> > > > > Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one side, 
> > and a
> > > > > big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. Somebody
> > > > > besides me needs to start cracking down on these bastards. Even 
> > though
> > > > > it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and other 
> > beach
> > > > > area places, and when they do, they are confronted with that 
> > mess. Why
> > > > > isn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Hinge
I've seen kids in there twice in the past 3 weeks, while walking my dog.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i live down the street from that construction site, and i ride the cicuit at 
> least 2 times a 
> day, and i have NEVER EVER see any kids playing on that pile, so come on you 
> are just 
> trying to make a big deal out of nothing...i agree with you about the litter
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > Listen, the one block i'm talking about doesn't look like a typical 
> > construction site. 
The 
> > fence is a joke, and it's been a joke for more then a year. Even worse, 
> > because the 
fence 
> is 
> > down in places, kids play in there. Do you think it's a safe place for kids 
> > to play? I 
don't.
> > As for the new curbs, sidewalk and streets...great. Big improvement. I 
> > agree. On the 
> other 
> > hand, have you seen how much litter there is in the ocean front area? I've 
> > never lived 
in 
> a 
> > place where people so greatly disrespect their city by littering. Am I 
> > wrong about that 
> too?
> > Jack
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I can tell you as a regular citizen IT IS A CONSTRUCTION SITE with 
> > > magor infrastructure work. I don't care how it looks down there. Send 
> > > him pictures of the new curbs, sidewalks and streets too and tell him 
> > > how shitty that looks.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  I wonder if the city would be embarrassed to know that it took me, a
> > > > regular citizen, to get the corner of Kingsley and Sunset cleaned 
> > > up?
> > > > Then again, they probably never noticed what a mess it was.
> > > > I'd urge everybody here to go and take a look at the rubble yard in
> > > > it's current state. It's horrible. Go there, take pictures and flood
> > > > the councils email address's with them.
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why sn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jack, there are one set of rules for Asbury Partners and another 
> > > set 
> > > > > for everyone else. While it was intimated to me by the City (when 
> > > I was 
> > > > > not considered so much as an enemy) that Partners is near 
> > > impossible to 
> > > > > deal with, the master must let the dog know who is walking who. 
> > > This 
> > > > > development is like watching someone being pulled down the street 
> > > by 
> > > > > their dog. They shouldn't own one if they can' train it.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread justifiedright
Hey Jack,

Years ago I remember a guy in this town named Doug Hinge, and if I 
remember correctly Hinge may have been a nickname for him, but I 
could be wrong - maybe it was his real name.

Any relation to you?




--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> First off, I don't always just complain. If that's your pet peeve, 
you might as well add 
> everybodies name to this post.
> I know what this town looked like 3, 13, 23 and 33 years ago.
> I've also seen plenty of construction sites in my life, and I 
think much of this one looks like 
> shit. Go look at that fence and tell me otherwise. 
> Jack
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  wrote:
> >
> > hey hinge
> > i only ever hear you complain...i dont ever hear you talk about 
all the new streets that 
> are 
> > going in and the new sidewalks...this is a town under 
constuction dudedo u 
> remember 
> > what this town looked like just 3 years agogive me a 
break...rome wasnt built in a 
> > day...you dont EVER have anything nice to say...
> > sam
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some pictures 
and
> > > contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble yard 
near the
> > > Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one side, 
and a
> > > big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. 
Somebody
> > > besides me needs to start cracking down on these bastards. 
Even though
> > > it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and other 
beach
> > > area places, and when they do, they are confronted with that 
mess. Why
> > > isn't the city cracking down on them?
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Hinge
And so was I. I see that area everyday.
I do agree it's nice to see the new sidewalks, and roads. 
And I don't just look for the bad. I guess it's easier for me to see something 
as big as a 
block then what might be underfoot.
Maybe i'm alone in my opinion about the fence. 
But, I'd rather speak up about it then keep it to myself.
Jack

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> 
> I was there today. I didn't even notice it I had my eyes on the new 
> sidewalks. See you look for the bad. 
> 
> 
> First off, I don't always just complain. If that's your pet peeve, 
> you might as well add 
> > everybodies name to this post.
> > I know what this town looked like 3, 13, 23 and 33 years ago.
> > I've also seen plenty of construction sites in my life, and I think 
> much of this one looks like 
> > shit. Go look at that fence and tell me otherwise. 
> > Jack
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  wrote:
> > >
> > > hey hinge
> > > i only ever hear you complain...i dont ever hear you talk about 
> all the new streets that 
> > are 
> > > going in and the new sidewalks...this is a town under constuction 
> dudedo u 
> > remember 
> > > what this town looked like just 3 years agogive me a 
> break...rome wasnt built in a 
> > > day...you dont EVER have anything nice to say...
> > > sam
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some pictures 
> and
> > > > contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble yard near 
> the
> > > > Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one side, 
> and a
> > > > big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. Somebody
> > > > besides me needs to start cracking down on these bastards. Even 
> though
> > > > it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and other 
> beach
> > > > area places, and when they do, they are confronted with that 
> mess. Why
> > > > isn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread rolemover
i live down the street from that construction site, and i ride the cicuit at 
least 2 times a 
day, and i have NEVER EVER see any kids playing on that pile, so come on you 
are just 
trying to make a big deal out of nothing...i agree with you about the litter

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Listen, the one block i'm talking about doesn't look like a typical 
> construction site. The 
> fence is a joke, and it's been a joke for more then a year. Even worse, 
> because the fence 
is 
> down in places, kids play in there. Do you think it's a safe place for kids 
> to play? I don't.
> As for the new curbs, sidewalk and streets...great. Big improvement. I agree. 
> On the 
other 
> hand, have you seen how much litter there is in the ocean front area? I've 
> never lived in 
a 
> place where people so greatly disrespect their city by littering. Am I wrong 
> about that 
too?
> Jack
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > I can tell you as a regular citizen IT IS A CONSTRUCTION SITE with 
> > magor infrastructure work. I don't care how it looks down there. Send 
> > him pictures of the new curbs, sidewalks and streets too and tell him 
> > how shitty that looks.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  I wonder if the city would be embarrassed to know that it took me, a
> > > regular citizen, to get the corner of Kingsley and Sunset cleaned 
> > up?
> > > Then again, they probably never noticed what a mess it was.
> > > I'd urge everybody here to go and take a look at the rubble yard in
> > > it's current state. It's horrible. Go there, take pictures and flood
> > > the councils email address's with them.
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why sn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Jack, there are one set of rules for Asbury Partners and another 
> > set 
> > > > for everyone else. While it was intimated to me by the City (when 
> > I was 
> > > > not considered so much as an enemy) that Partners is near 
> > impossible to 
> > > > deal with, the master must let the dog know who is walking who. 
> > This 
> > > > development is like watching someone being pulled down the street 
> > by 
> > > > their dog. They shouldn't own one if they can' train it.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 

I was there today. I didn't even notice it I had my eyes on the new 
sidewalks. See you look for the bad. 


First off, I don't always just complain. If that's your pet peeve, 
you might as well add 
> everybodies name to this post.
> I know what this town looked like 3, 13, 23 and 33 years ago.
> I've also seen plenty of construction sites in my life, and I think 
much of this one looks like 
> shit. Go look at that fence and tell me otherwise. 
> Jack
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  wrote:
> >
> > hey hinge
> > i only ever hear you complain...i dont ever hear you talk about 
all the new streets that 
> are 
> > going in and the new sidewalks...this is a town under constuction 
dudedo u 
> remember 
> > what this town looked like just 3 years agogive me a 
break...rome wasnt built in a 
> > day...you dont EVER have anything nice to say...
> > sam
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some pictures 
and
> > > contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble yard near 
the
> > > Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one side, 
and a
> > > big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. Somebody
> > > besides me needs to start cracking down on these bastards. Even 
though
> > > it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and other 
beach
> > > area places, and when they do, they are confronted with that 
mess. Why
> > > isn't the city cracking down on them?
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Hinge
Listen, the one block i'm talking about doesn't look like a typical 
construction site. The 
fence is a joke, and it's been a joke for more then a year. Even worse, because 
the fence is 
down in places, kids play in there. Do you think it's a safe place for kids to 
play? I don't.
As for the new curbs, sidewalk and streets...great. Big improvement. I agree. 
On the other 
hand, have you seen how much litter there is in the ocean front area? I've 
never lived in a 
place where people so greatly disrespect their city by littering. Am I wrong 
about that too?
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> >
> I can tell you as a regular citizen IT IS A CONSTRUCTION SITE with 
> magor infrastructure work. I don't care how it looks down there. Send 
> him pictures of the new curbs, sidewalks and streets too and tell him 
> how shitty that looks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  I wonder if the city would be embarrassed to know that it took me, a
> > regular citizen, to get the corner of Kingsley and Sunset cleaned 
> up?
> > Then again, they probably never noticed what a mess it was.
> > I'd urge everybody here to go and take a look at the rubble yard in
> > it's current state. It's horrible. Go there, take pictures and flood
> > the councils email address's with them.
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Why sn't the city cracking down on them?
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Jack, there are one set of rules for Asbury Partners and another 
> set 
> > > for everyone else. While it was intimated to me by the City (when 
> I was 
> > > not considered so much as an enemy) that Partners is near 
> impossible to 
> > > deal with, the master must let the dog know who is walking who. 
> This 
> > > development is like watching someone being pulled down the street 
> by 
> > > their dog. They shouldn't own one if they can' train it.
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Hinge
First off, I don't always just complain. If that's your pet peeve, you might as 
well add 
everybodies name to this post.
I know what this town looked like 3, 13, 23 and 33 years ago.
I've also seen plenty of construction sites in my life, and I think much of 
this one looks like 
shit. Go look at that fence and tell me otherwise. 
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hey hinge
> i only ever hear you complain...i dont ever hear you talk about all the new 
> streets that 
are 
> going in and the new sidewalks...this is a town under constuction dudedo 
> u 
remember 
> what this town looked like just 3 years agogive me a break...rome wasnt 
> built in a 
> day...you dont EVER have anything nice to say...
> sam
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some pictures and
> > contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble yard near the
> > Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one side, and a
> > big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. Somebody
> > besides me needs to start cracking down on these bastards. Even though
> > it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and other beach
> > area places, and when they do, they are confronted with that mess. Why
> > isn't the city cracking down on them?
> >
>





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show

2006-11-06 Thread MarioAPNJ





 

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
 

Everyone - Mario doesn't like 
  me.
 
Don't know you.  Never met you. The poor me part of your 
act?
 
 
 so you 
  need not waste ...everyone's cybertime telling them again. 


 
The "Shut Up and Sing" part of your act?
 
You seem to have something to say about everything promote it everywhere: 
the paper, the radio, TV, a blog, and this forum where you're always 
self-promoting.
 

If the Army Times, Air Force Times, Marine Times and the Navy Times can say 
today, "Time for Rumsfeld to Go," what's wrong with saying, "Time for 
DeSeno to Change His Marxism Act"?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Original Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show
  
Date:
11/6/2006 5:05:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:    




Does any of this make sense to anyone else here?How about we come to 
an agreement:Everyone - Mario doesn't like me.There - now 
everyone knows how you feel, so you need not waste everyone's cybertime 
telling them again. They already know...--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. wrote:>> Justified Right, the column, the blog 
and whatever oozes through to this > forum, is “A Dog and Pony 
Show," plain and simple.> > The dog -- a Pit Bull.> The 
pony -- a One Trick Pony.> 
> 
> "To eat these things," said my uncle, "you must excercise great 
care. > You may swallow down what's solid . . . BUT . . . you must 
spit out the air!"> 
> 
Here’s some solid from several posts:> > My issue is not 
criticisms of Keady, but rather character assassination and …> his 
spin and distortion. No one deserves to be lied about. Everyone is > 
responsible for what they say and do - not what is misinterpreted - 
purposefully….> > The bigger message is one they do not want to 
hear so they miss the rest. > Read the articles, the info is there. 
I'm not doing anyone's work for them….> > What about Al 
Giobbie flip flop? You have nothing to say about that? It is > not 
the message that is at issue but the messenger. That's my whole point, but 
> what's the use….> > Tommy in today's APP. He will take 
on the BSA and Keady to defend > Italian-American heritage (misplaced) 
but will take a dive for the City and Partners?. …> > You 
want people with Italian surnames to boycott the BSA, how about they 
> boycott AP and Partners? Oh right, most of the people who were 
insulted already > boycotted AP when they took flight years ago. ..no 
now it is the messenger > and not the message.> > the 
truth of the matter is if Keady had absolute proof or even under > 
estimated he would still be damned by those same people now.> 
=> And here’s more 
tiresome Balloon Juice worthy of the nearest spittoon:> > 
"Columbus tale a fabrication,,Councilman Jim Keady objected to our 
> celebration. He read from a book by Howard Zinn, a Marxist who has 
made a living > criticizing America. > 
=> > Should we forbid study 
of Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, William Randolph > Hearst, IBM, and 
General Motors and many others who supported fascism and the > Third 
Reich?> > What charges will be brought against The Christian 
Science Monitor for > publishing this: "The trouble is, almost 
everything we've been taught about the > first Thanksgiving in 1621 
is a myth. The holiday has two distinct histories - > the actual one 
and a romanticized portrayal. "> > Or the University of Virginia 
for this? "The most famous example of > [George Washington's] 
fortitude of character is, in fact, just fiction. The story > of 
Washington and the Cherry Tree, a tale which still lingers through > 
probably every grammar school in the U.S., was invented by a parson named 
Mason > Locke Weems in a biography of Washington published directly after 
his death." > > Should we burn the secularists who celebrate 

satan and witches on Halloween > more than they observe All Saints' 
Day?> > 
> And 
shouldn't a right winger object to taxpayer dollars paying for ethnic 
> celebrations?> 
> "He wanted to wipe 
out the gray, if-it-feels-good-do-it, > blame-America-first, 
doused-in-Vietnam-guilt 60's and turn the clock back to the 
black-and-white > Manichaean values of the 50's." _AsburyPark : Message: 
An Asbury Park > Quiz Game_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19149)>
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread rolemover
hey hinge
i only ever hear you complain...i dont ever hear you talk about all the new 
streets that are 
going in and the new sidewalks...this is a town under constuction dudedo u 
remember 
what this town looked like just 3 years agogive me a break...rome wasnt 
built in a 
day...you dont EVER have anything nice to say...
sam

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some pictures and
> contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble yard near the
> Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one side, and a
> big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. Somebody
> besides me needs to start cracking down on these bastards. Even though
> it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and other beach
> area places, and when they do, they are confronted with that mess. Why
> isn't the city cracking down on them?
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show

2006-11-06 Thread arhythmick

It seems to me many people on this board have already expressed that it
doesn't make sense.   I for one just don't read anything from him
anymore.  Don't let it distract you either.




--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Does any of this make sense to anyone else here?
>
> How about we come to an agreement:
>
> Everyone - Mario doesn't like me.
>
> There - now everyone knows how you feel, so you need not waste
> everyone's cybertime telling them again. They already know...
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
> >
> > Justified Right, the column, the blog and whatever oozes through
> to this
> > forum, is “A Dog and Pony Show," plain and simple.
> >
> > The dog -- a Pit Bull.
> > The pony -- a One Trick Pony.
> > 
> >
> > "To eat these things," said my uncle, "you must excercise great
> care.
> > You may swallow down what's solid . . . BUT . . . you must spit
> out the air!"
> > 
> > Here’s some solid from several posts:
> >
> > My issue is not criticisms of Keady, but rather character
> assassination and …
> > his spin and distortion. No one deserves to be lied about.
> Everyone is
> > responsible for what they say and do - not what is
> misinterpreted - purposefully….
> >
> > The bigger message is one they do not want to hear so they miss
> the rest.
> > Read the articles, the info is there. I'm not doing anyone's work
> for them….
> >
> > What about Al Giobbie flip flop? You have nothing to say about
> that? It is
> > not the message that is at issue but the messenger. That's my
> whole point, but
> > what's the use….
> >
> > Tommy in today's APP. He will take on the BSA and Keady to defend
> > Italian-American heritage (misplaced) but will take a dive for
> the City and Partners?. …
> >
> > You want people with Italian surnames to boycott the BSA, how
> about they
> > boycott AP and Partners? Oh right, most of the people who were
> insulted already
> > boycotted AP when they took flight years ago. ..no now it is the
> messenger
> > and not the message.
> >
> > the truth of the matter is if Keady had absolute proof or even
> under
> > estimated he would still be damned by those same people now.
> > =
> > And here’s more tiresome Balloon Juice worthy of the nearest
> spittoon:
> >
> > "Columbus tale a fabrication,,Councilman Jim Keady objected
> to our
> > celebration. He read from a book by Howard Zinn, a Marxist who
> has made a living
> > criticizing America.
> > =
> >
> > Should we forbid study of Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, William
> Randolph
> > Hearst, IBM, and General Motors and many others who supported
> fascism and the
> > Third Reich?
> >
> > What charges will be brought against The Christian Science
> Monitor for
> > publishing this: "The trouble is, almost everything we've been
> taught about the
> > first Thanksgiving in 1621 is a myth. The holiday has two
> distinct histories -
> > the actual one and a romanticized portrayal. "
> >
> > Or the University of Virginia for this? "The most famous
> example of
> > [George Washington's] fortitude of character is, in fact, just
> fiction. The story
> > of Washington and the Cherry Tree, a tale which still lingers
> through
> > probably every grammar school in the U.S., was invented by a
> parson named Mason
> > Locke Weems in a biography of Washington published directly after
> his death."
> >
> > Should we burn the secularists who celebrate satan and witches on
> Halloween
> > more than they observe All Saints' Day?
> >
> > 
> > And shouldn't a right winger object to taxpayer dollars paying
> for ethnic
> > celebrations?
> > 
> > "He wanted to wipe out the gray, if-it-feels-good-do-it,
> > blame-America-first, doused-in-Vietnam-guilt 60's and turn the
> clock back to the black-and-white
> > Manichaean values of the 50's." _AsburyPark : Message: An
> Asbury Park
> > Quiz Game_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19149)
> >
>






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
I can tell you as a regular citizen IT IS A CONSTRUCTION SITE with 
magor infrastructure work. I don't care how it looks down there. Send 
him pictures of the new curbs, sidewalks and streets too and tell him 
how shitty that looks.




 I wonder if the city would be embarrassed to know that it took me, a
> regular citizen, to get the corner of Kingsley and Sunset cleaned 
up?
> Then again, they probably never noticed what a mess it was.
> I'd urge everybody here to go and take a look at the rubble yard in
> it's current state. It's horrible. Go there, take pictures and flood
> the councils email address's with them.
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Why sn't the city cracking down on them?
> > >
> > 
> > Jack, there are one set of rules for Asbury Partners and another 
set 
> > for everyone else. While it was intimated to me by the City (when 
I was 
> > not considered so much as an enemy) that Partners is near 
impossible to 
> > deal with, the master must let the dog know who is walking who. 
This 
> > development is like watching someone being pulled down the street 
by 
> > their dog. They shouldn't own one if they can' train it.
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show

2006-11-06 Thread justifiedright
Does any of this make sense to anyone else here?

How about we come to an agreement:

Everyone - Mario doesn't like me.

There - now everyone knows how you feel, so you need not waste 
everyone's cybertime telling them again.  They already know...


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Justified Right,  the column, the blog and  whatever oozes through 
to this 
> forum, is “A Dog and Pony Show,"  plain and simple.
>  
> The dog -- a Pit Bull.
> The pony -- a One Trick  Pony.
> 
>  
> "To eat these things," said my uncle, "you must excercise  great 
care. 
> You may swallow down what's solid . . . BUT . . . you must spit  
out the air!"
> 
> Here’s some solid from several  posts:
>  
> My issue is not criticisms  of Keady, but rather character 
assassination and …
> his spin and distortion. No  one deserves to be lied about. 
Everyone is 
> responsible for what they say and do  - not what is 
misinterpreted - purposefully….
>  
> The bigger message is one  they do not want to hear so they miss 
the rest. 
> Read the articles, the info is  there. I'm not doing anyone's work 
for them….
>  
> What about Al Giobbie flip  flop? You have nothing to say about 
that? It is 
> not the message that is at issue  but the messenger. That's my 
whole point, but 
> what's the use….
>  
> Tommy in today's APP. He  will take on the BSA and Keady to defend 
> Italian-American heritage (misplaced)  but will take a dive for 
the City and Partners?. …
>  
> You want people with Italian  surnames to boycott the BSA, how 
about they 
> boycott AP and Partners? Oh right,  most of the people who were 
insulted already 
> boycotted AP when they took flight  years ago. ..no now it is the 
messenger 
> and not the message.
>  
>  the truth of the  matter is if Keady had absolute proof or even 
under 
> estimated he would still be  damned by those same people now.
> =
> And here’s  more tiresome Balloon Juice worthy of the nearest  
spittoon:
>  
> "Columbus tale a  fabrication,,Councilman Jim Keady objected 
to our 
> celebration. He read from  a book by Howard Zinn, a Marxist who 
has made a living 
> criticizing  America. 
> =
> 
> Should we forbid study of Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh,  William 
Randolph 
> Hearst, IBM, and General Motors and many others who  supported 
fascism and the 
> Third  Reich?
>  
> What charges will be brought against The Christian  Science 
Monitor for 
> publishing this: "The trouble  is, almost everything we've been 
taught about the 
> first Thanksgiving in 1621 is  a myth. The holiday has two 
distinct histories - 
> the actual one  and a romanticized portrayal. "
>  
> Or  the University of Virginia  for  this?  "The most famous 
example of 
> [George  Washington's] fortitude of character is, in fact, just  
fiction. The story 
> of Washington and the Cherry  Tree, a tale which still lingers 
through 
> probably every grammar school  in the U.S., was invented by a 
parson named Mason 
> Locke Weems  in a biography of Washington published directly after 
his death." 
>  
> Should we burn the secularists who celebrate satan and  witches on 
Halloween 
> more than they observe All Saints'  Day?
>  
> 
> And shouldn't a right winger object to taxpayer dollars paying  
for ethnic 
> celebrations?
> 
> "He wanted to wipe out the gray,  if-it-feels-good-do-it, 
> blame-America-first, doused-in-Vietnam-guilt 60's and  turn the 
clock back to the black-and-white 
> Manichaean values of the  50's."_AsburyPark :  Message: An 
Asbury Park 
> Quiz Game_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19149)
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Hinge
I wonder if the city would be embarrassed to know that it took me, a
regular citizen, to get the corner of Kingsley and Sunset cleaned up?
Then again, they probably never noticed what a mess it was.
I'd urge everybody here to go and take a look at the rubble yard in
it's current state. It's horrible. Go there, take pictures and flood
the councils email address's with them.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Why sn't the city cracking down on them?
> >
> 
> Jack, there are one set of rules for Asbury Partners and another set 
> for everyone else. While it was intimated to me by the City (when I was 
> not considered so much as an enemy) that Partners is near impossible to 
> deal with, the master must let the dog know who is walking who. This 
> development is like watching someone being pulled down the street by 
> their dog. They shouldn't own one if they can' train it.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] The Dog and Pony Show

2006-11-06 Thread MarioAPNJ





Justified Right,  the column, the blog and 
whatever oozes through to this forum, is “A Dog and Pony Show," 
plain and simple.
 
The dog -- a Pit Bull.
The pony -- a One Trick 
Pony.

 
"To eat these things," said my uncle, "you must excercise 
great care. You may swallow down what's solid . . . BUT . . . you must spit 
out the air!"

Here’s some solid from several 
posts:
 
My issue is not criticisms 
of Keady, but rather character assassination and …his spin and distortion. No 
one deserves to be lied about. Everyone is responsible for what they say and do 
- not what is misinterpreted - purposefully….
 
The bigger message is one 
they do not want to hear so they miss the rest. Read the articles, the info is 
there. I'm not doing anyone's work for them….
 
What about Al Giobbie flip 
flop? You have nothing to say about that? It is not the message that is at issue 
but the messenger. That's my whole point, but what's the use….
 
Tommy in today's APP. He 
will take on the BSA and Keady to defend Italian-American heritage (misplaced) 
but will take a dive for the City and Partners?. …
 
You want people with Italian 
surnames to boycott the BSA, how about they boycott AP and Partners? Oh right, 
most of the people who were insulted already boycotted AP when they took flight 
years ago. ..no now it is the messenger and not the message.
 
 the truth of the 
matter is if Keady had absolute proof or even under estimated he would still be 
damned by those same people now.
=And here’s 
more tiresome Balloon Juice worthy of the nearest 
spittoon:
 
"Columbus tale a 
fabrication,,Councilman Jim Keady objected to our celebration. He read from 
a book by Howard Zinn, a Marxist who has made a living criticizing 
America. 
=
Should we forbid study of Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, 
William Randolph Hearst, IBM, and General Motors and many others who 
supported fascism and the Third 
Reich?
 
What charges will be brought against The Christian 
Science Monitor for publishing this: "The trouble 
is, almost everything we've been taught about the first Thanksgiving in 1621 is 
a myth. The holiday has two distinct histories - the actual one 
and a romanticized portrayal. "
 
Or  the University of Virginia  for 
this?  "The most famous example of [George 
Washington's] fortitude of character is, in fact, just 
fiction. The story of Washington and the Cherry 
Tree, a tale which still lingers through probably every grammar school 
in the U.S., was invented by a parson named Mason Locke Weems 
in a biography of Washington published directly after his death." 
 
Should we burn the secularists who celebrate satan and 
witches on Halloween more than they observe All Saints' 
Day?
 

And shouldn't a right winger object to taxpayer dollars paying 
for ethnic celebrations?

"He wanted to wipe out the gray, 
if-it-feels-good-do-it, blame-America-first, doused-in-Vietnam-guilt 60's and 
turn the clock back to the black-and-white Manichaean values of the 
50's."AsburyPark : 
Message: An Asbury Park Quiz Game 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Why sn't the city cracking down on them?
>

Jack, there are one set of rules for Asbury Partners and another set 
for everyone else. While it was intimated to me by the City (when I was 
not considered so much as an enemy) that Partners is near impossible to 
deal with, the master must let the dog know who is walking who. This 
development is like watching someone being pulled down the street by 
their dog. They shouldn't own one if they can' train it.




 
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[AsburyPark] "They" Summon Our Nasty Devils

2006-11-06 Thread MarioAPNJ






They don't 
call to our better angels; they summon our nasty devils. 

Re: up-and-coming columns in the hopper: 
 

Justifiedright:  "Right now Gumba 
  is first in line to go Thursday. However I've got 2 other stories in the 
  hopper that may have to go first."

Don't forget to bring out the annual whining about taking 
Christ out of Christmas.
 
And sharpen that pen for anyone who might ask, "How could they 
possibly have had snow in Bethlehem?"
 
In contrast, see Kate Mellina's thoughtful and measured column 
about the recent shootings. Try hard to find a finger pointing in that 
column.
 
They don't call to our better angels; they summon our 
nasty devils. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/19149
 
Original Message


  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)
  
Date:
11/6/2006 2:13:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
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Dan the Man,I have a deal with Dan J not to put my columns up 
anywhere before the triCityNews comes out on Thursdays.Right now 
Gumba is first in line to go Thursday. However I've got 2 other stories in 
the hopper that may have to go first.IF that happens, I'll post Gumba 
here.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"Fred" > wrote:> >> > I think Al 
jumped the gun in both articles and I think Jim did > too. 3 > 
> wrongs don't make a right. It's over until the next shooting. > > 
I have this feeling that none of the past 2 shootings were gang > > 
related. I think they were all over a girl including the murder > that 
> > happened after Jim's Blodd remarks to ABC News.. > > 
> I don't know if they were gang related but there sure seems to be 
> gang activity here. Let's see what APPD said in 2004. As of that 
> date there were over 4,000 bloods in the state. You don;t think 
> there were a significant number here? With all the drug and crime 
> activity here? Fred, the truth of the matter is if Keady had > 
absolute proof or even under estimated he would still be damned by > 
those same people now.> > I know it appears stupid me harping on 
this GUMBA NIGHT with Tommy, > but that proves the point. If Keady, 
or another whipping boy of > Tommy's issued that release there would be 
hell to pay. But there > isn;t now is there?> > My motive 
is not to prove anyone wrong, that includes my favorite > whipping boys - 
Fishman, Bruno, et al. I wish for nothing more that > they had done 
everything right and not given me reason to complain. > I will go 
very happily into the woodwork. This has caused me nothing > but 
money and aggravation.> > I want their to be no gangs. I want to 
the beachfront to be already > developed as it should be. I also want 
to be 6'2" and have a full > head of hair.>
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[AsburyPark] The Fence

2006-11-06 Thread Hinge
Looks like it's time to get out my camera, take some pictures and
contact Hugh Lamie again. The fence around the rubble yard near the
Stone Pony is worse then ever. It's falling down on one side, and a
big part has come down on the other. It looks terrible. Somebody
besides me needs to start cracking down on these bastards. Even though
it's no longer summer, people still come to the Pony and other beach
area places, and when they do, they are confronted with that mess. Why
isn't the city cracking down on them?




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Market St. Mission Approvals May Be Voided 12/7 For Submitting False Info!

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
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> Breaking news
> 
> Read all about it at www.JustifiedRight.com in the Jersey Shore 
Section!
>

Good. My money may be well spent there.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Tom, he just wants to be sure you are not all talk.  Rememeber, DAN 
is the one that was holding up the Metro site because as soon as then 
took down C8 he was going to bring on a lawsuit.
 
Which I decided not to do. I am not wasting my money in this town 
anymore. And why should I use my money to bring the lawsuit? For the 
city to be able to get some more money? Why should I do that? They'll 
just spend it foolishly. The truth is what it is. My issue had nothing 
to do with the Esperanza which I think is a good project and should be 
built. It was a matter of that it could not be built without amendation 
of the WRP. The city wants you to beleive in science fiction. As I said 
from the beginning, all it had to do was amend the plan and ask for 
nothing in return. It could have made its case for that. I've looked 
not to put one penny in my pocket - only in the public coffers. I made 
up nothing, from the Triangle to today, but truthfully - I don't care 
anymore. The people of AP are just too used to being taken advantage 
of. I will not disturb you of your notions, just don't try to make true 
what isn't. So yes, I was all talk with regard to C-8. When it comes to 
putting my money in a lawsuit I back off. But I'm enough of a man to 
admit it. And all of my talk was/true and based on facts - that's the 
difference.  






 
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[AsburyPark] Market St. Mission Approvals May Be Voided 12/7 For Submitting False Info!

2006-11-06 Thread justifiedright
Breaking news

Read all about it at www.JustifiedRight.com in the Jersey Shore Section!




 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread Allan Peterson


Tom, he just wants to be sure you are not all talk.  Rememeber, DAN is the one that was holding up the Metro site because as soon as then took down C8 he was going to bring on a lawsuit.
- Original Message From: justifiedright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, November 6, 2006 2:05:05 PMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

Dan the Man,I have a deal with Dan J not to put my columns up anywhere before the triCityNews comes out on Thursdays.Right now Gumba is first in line to go Thursday. However I've got 2 other stories in the hopper that may have to go first.IF that happens, I'll post Gumba here.--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred"  wrote:> >> > I think Al jumped the gun in both articles and I think Jim did > too. 3 > > wrongs don't make a right. It's over until the next shooting. > > I have this feeling that none of the past 2 shootings were gang > > related. I think they were all over a girl including the murder > that
 > > happened after Jim's Blodd remarks to ABC News.. > > > I don't know if they were gang related but there sure seems to be > gang activity here. Let's see what APPD said in 2004. As of that > date there were over 4,000 bloods in the state. You don;t think > there were a significant number here? With all the drug and crime > activity here? Fred, the truth of the matter is if Keady had > absolute proof or even under estimated he would still be damned by > those same people now.> > I know it appears stupid me harping on this GUMBA NIGHT with Tommy, > but that proves the point. If Keady, or another whipping boy of > Tommy's issued that release there would be hell to pay. But there > isn;t now is there?> > My motive is not to prove anyone wrong, that includes my favorite > whipping boys - Fishman, Bruno, et al. I wish for nothing more that
 > they had done everything right and not given me reason to complain. > I will go very happily into the woodwork. This has caused me nothing > but money and aggravation.> > I want their to be no gangs. I want to the beachfront to be already > developed as it should be. I also want to be 6'2" and have a full > head of hair.>
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
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> Dan the Man,
> 
> I have a deal with Dan J not to put my columns up anywhere before 
> the triCityNews comes out on Thursdays.
> 
> Right now Gumba is first in line to go Thursday.  However I've got 2 
> other stories in the hopper that may have to go first.
> 
> IF that happens, I'll post Gumba here.


Fair enough






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread justifiedright
Dan the Man,

I have a deal with Dan J not to put my columns up anywhere before 
the triCityNews comes out on Thursdays.

Right now Gumba is first in line to go Thursday.  However I've got 2 
other stories in the hopper that may have to go first.

IF that happens, I'll post Gumba here.



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> >
> > I think Al jumped the gun in both articles and I think Jim did 
> too. 3 
> > wrongs don't make a right. It's over until the next shooting. 
> > I have this feeling that none of the past 2 shootings were gang 
> > related. I think they were all over a girl including the murder 
> that 
> > happened after Jim's Blodd remarks to ABC News.. 
> 
> 
> I don't know if they were gang related but there sure seems to be 
> gang activity here. Let's see what APPD said in 2004. As of that 
> date there were over 4,000 bloods in the state. You don;t think 
> there were a significant number here? With all the drug and crime 
> activity here? Fred, the truth of the matter is if Keady had 
> absolute proof or even under estimated he would still be damned by 
> those same people now.
> 
> I know it appears stupid me harping on this GUMBA NIGHT with 
Tommy, 
> but that proves the point. If Keady, or another whipping boy of 
> Tommy's issued that release there would be hell to pay. But there 
> isn;t now is there?
> 
> My motive is not to prove anyone wrong, that includes my favorite 
> whipping boys - Fishman, Bruno, et al. I wish for nothing more 
that 
> they had done everything right and not given me reason to 
complain. 
> I will go very happily into the woodwork. This has caused me 
nothing 
> but money and aggravation.
> 
> I want their to be no gangs. I want to the beachfront to be 
already 
> developed as it should be. I also want to be 6'2" and have a full 
> head of hair.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think Al jumped the gun in both articles and I think Jim did 
too. 3 
> wrongs don't make a right. It's over until the next shooting. 
> I have this feeling that none of the past 2 shootings were gang 
> related. I think they were all over a girl including the murder 
that 
> happened after Jim's Blodd remarks to ABC News.. 


I don't know if they were gang related but there sure seems to be 
gang activity here. Let's see what APPD said in 2004. As of that 
date there were over 4,000 bloods in the state. You don;t think 
there were a significant number here? With all the drug and crime 
activity here? Fred, the truth of the matter is if Keady had 
absolute proof or even under estimated he would still be damned by 
those same people now.

I know it appears stupid me harping on this GUMBA NIGHT with Tommy, 
but that proves the point. If Keady, or another whipping boy of 
Tommy's issued that release there would be hell to pay. But there 
isn;t now is there?

My motive is not to prove anyone wrong, that includes my favorite 
whipping boys - Fishman, Bruno, et al. I wish for nothing more that 
they had done everything right and not given me reason to complain. 
I will go very happily into the woodwork. This has caused me nothing 
but money and aggravation.

I want their to be no gangs. I want to the beachfront to be already 
developed as it should be. I also want to be 6'2" and have a full 
head of hair.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> >
> >  
I think Al jumped the gun in both articles and I think Jim did too. 3 
wrongs don't make a right. It's over until the next shooting. 
I have this feeling that none of the past 2 shootings were gang 
related. I think they were all over a girl including the murder that 
happened after Jim's Blodd remarks to ABC News.. 




Yeah but Keady didn't tell tell the truth Larry did.
> 
> You have no idea of the former. Larry doesn;t have to tell the truth. 
> He is a developer. He is supposed to spread pr, a politician 
shouldn't. 
> There are enough cheerleaders in this town. What about Al Giobbie 
flip 
> flop? You have nothing to say about that? It is not the message that 
is 
> at issue but the messenger. That's my whole point, but what's the use.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Donating to Asbury Park Little League - Should We?

2006-11-06 Thread Teddysea





If the Little League gets the $80,000 applied for, then maybe the balance 
could be picked up by the developer/land broker!  They could donate the 
development rights fee they charge on 6 or 7 of the beachfront units!!  Or, 
if that's not possible maybe part of the $1,000,000 they saved when they bought 
the Albion Hotel in conjunction with the City!!  A small price for them to 
pay!!!
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[AsburyPark] Tommy versus Boy Scout of America

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
Tommy in today's APP. He will take on the BSA and Keady to defend 
Italian-American heritage (misplaced) but will take a dive for the 
City and Partners. He has still failed to criticize the City and 
Partners for GUMBA NIGHT. What's the difference? Cronyism? He knows 
which side his bread is buttered on? Say it ain't so Tom, I thought 
you were better than that!

You want people with Italian surnames to boycott the BSA, how about 
they boycott AP and Partners? Oh right, most of the people who were 
insulted already boycotted AP when they took flight years ago. I 
know now it is the meesenger and not the message.

"Columbus tale a fabrication

I fear your coverage about Asbury Park's Columbus Day landing may 
have put me and 100 other people in a false light. Your article 
suggested that we agree Christopher Columbus was a bad guy who 
mistreated Indians, but were there so as not to lose our annual 
party. Shenanigans.

We were there exuberantly celebrating Columbus and America. We've 
done so annually for 50 years. Councilman Jim Keady objected to our 
celebration. He read from a book by Howard Zinn, a Marxist who has 
made a living criticizing America. He falsely accuses Columbus. Zinn 
cites a document written by Francisco de Bobadilla that says 
Columbus mistreated Indians, but fails to point out that de 
Bobadilla wanted Columbus' governorship and fabricated the stories. 
Queen Isabella fired him.

Columbus was not a slave trader, either. After Indians murdered 40 
of his men, he captured 500 and sent them to Spain as prisoners of 
war. That does not make him a slave trader.

Columbus Day has deep associations for the Italian-American 
community. Italians are proud that our contribution to America 
includes the voyages of Columbus, the first North American explorer 
John Cabot and mapmaker Amerigo Vespucci. We love America and 
celebrate with her, not separately.

Every year, the Boy Scouts provide the Indians to greet Columbus in 
Asbury Park. This year, they refused, not wanting to "take sides" in 
the controversy. By not showing up, they picked a side — against 
Columbus, against Italian-Americans and against America.

I encourage all Scout families with Italian surnames to abandon 
funding for the Scouts.

Tommy De Seno

ASBURY PARK"






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Yeah but Keady didn't tell tell the truth Larry did.

You have no idea of the former. Larry doesn;t have to tell the truth. 
He is a developer. He is supposed to spread pr, a politician shouldn't. 
There are enough cheerleaders in this town. What about Al Giobbie flip 
flop? You have nothing to say about that? It is not the message that is 
at issue but the messenger. That's my whole point, but what's the use.






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

> It sounds like the people who don't live or just moved here(Keady, 
> > > Hingie) or who own property here{Dan) don't care about bad public 
> > > relations but the old timers do, why is that?

Yeah Fred, I'm really into losing money.






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This might sound  naive, but how does anybody know if Keady told the 
truth or not?
>

They don't as I've told them before. No one has read the articles 
carefully enough. The bigger message is one they do not want to hear so 
they miss the rest. Read the articles, the info is there. I'm not doing 
anyone's work for them.






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread Hinge
This might sound  naive, but how does anybody know if Keady told the truth or 
not?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
>  Yeah but Keady didn't tell tell the truth Larry did.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It sounds like the people who don't live or just moved here(Keady, 
> > > Hingie) or who own property here{Dan) don't care about bad public 
> > > relations but the old timers do, why is that? Dan you being a 
> > > Appraiser isn't it possible that Keadys remarks hurt property 
> > values? 
> > > I really wouldn't think so but that's your gig.
> > 
> > They could have, but that would be impossible to measure. In my gut 
> > I don't think it hurt values any more than the shootings 
> themselves. 
> > Besides contrary belief, my issue is not criticisms of Keady, but 
> > rather character assination and although I like Tommy, his spin and 
> > distortion. No one deserves to be lied about. Everyone is 
> > responsible for whatthey say and do - not what is misinterpreted - 
> > purposefully.
> > 
> > Back to property values. What difference does it make if it is the 
> > truth. Now here is where I am a hypocrite. I'll say what difference 
> > is there between Keady's remarks about gangs and Fishman's comments 
> > in the NYT real estate section last year or so about it not being a 
> > good time to bring families here because the schools are not good? 
> > If they are both true they have a right to be said. I am 
> > hypocritical because I lambasted Larry for that (save you all the 
> > trouble of going back to find my messages).
> > 
> > I only hate Fishman for one reason - he is screwing up the chances 
> > of this redevelopment more than if each of us went on Good Morning 
> > America and said they were massacring people here. I don't know why 
> > you "old-timers" are not fuming at being soft-soaped. In no stretch 
> > of the imagination can the total lack of progress on the waterfront 
> > be considered reasonable. It is tantamount to the success of this 
> > city and it is just not right.
> > 
> > I told Allan to fuck off because I don't want to play games. As for 
> > rolemover, the more time you have been here and done nothing to 
> move 
> > this city forward - the more shame on you. Also, I pay plenty of 
> > taxes and have chosen to keep my property for my family and not 
> rent 
> > it out - which I could make a killing doing so. Maybe I'll change 
> my 
> > mind and just say screw this city. Lastly, I would rather have 
> > someone in office that said something I didn;t like as long as it 
> > was the truth. I'm too old to have smoke blown up my ass.
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> >
> > 
 Yeah but Keady didn't tell tell the truth Larry did.




It sounds like the people who don't live or just moved here(Keady, 
> > Hingie) or who own property here{Dan) don't care about bad public 
> > relations but the old timers do, why is that? Dan you being a 
> > Appraiser isn't it possible that Keadys remarks hurt property 
> values? 
> > I really wouldn't think so but that's your gig.
> 
> They could have, but that would be impossible to measure. In my gut 
> I don't think it hurt values any more than the shootings 
themselves. 
> Besides contrary belief, my issue is not criticisms of Keady, but 
> rather character assination and although I like Tommy, his spin and 
> distortion. No one deserves to be lied about. Everyone is 
> responsible for whatthey say and do - not what is misinterpreted - 
> purposefully.
> 
> Back to property values. What difference does it make if it is the 
> truth. Now here is where I am a hypocrite. I'll say what difference 
> is there between Keady's remarks about gangs and Fishman's comments 
> in the NYT real estate section last year or so about it not being a 
> good time to bring families here because the schools are not good? 
> If they are both true they have a right to be said. I am 
> hypocritical because I lambasted Larry for that (save you all the 
> trouble of going back to find my messages).
> 
> I only hate Fishman for one reason - he is screwing up the chances 
> of this redevelopment more than if each of us went on Good Morning 
> America and said they were massacring people here. I don't know why 
> you "old-timers" are not fuming at being soft-soaped. In no stretch 
> of the imagination can the total lack of progress on the waterfront 
> be considered reasonable. It is tantamount to the success of this 
> city and it is just not right.
> 
> I told Allan to fuck off because I don't want to play games. As for 
> rolemover, the more time you have been here and done nothing to 
move 
> this city forward - the more shame on you. Also, I pay plenty of 
> taxes and have chosen to keep my property for my family and not 
rent 
> it out - which I could make a killing doing so. Maybe I'll change 
my 
> mind and just say screw this city. Lastly, I would rather have 
> someone in office that said something I didn;t like as long as it 
> was the truth. I'm too old to have smoke blown up my ass.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Hello - Tom - Where's the Tirade on GUMBA NIGHT

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Welcome Chris,

Tom

Where's the public criticisms of the City and Partners on Gumba Night, 
or is only Keady and his ilk fair game? Is my sweet ass intact, yyou 
said I could bet it? Be fair, don;t let your contracts with the city 
cloud it.






 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread Allan Peterson


Asbury spin zone?
- Original Message From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, November 6, 2006 8:26:30 AMSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" wrote:>>Because that's her style. You haven't learned that yet?That wasn't the question or the answer Mareueen.>> Why would you say that?>> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, restore881FM@ wrote:> >> > An Inconvenient Truth!! Very witty and very on the money.> > Please take a listen when I pose the question to last week's> Repubs and Dems> > on Asbury Radio. I asked, essentially, if the role of elected> officials should> > be to screen their comments for publicity reasons. The guests each> said that> > they didn't want their public officials acting as PR people.> > The sound is up
 on www.asburyradio. com right now.> > Thanks,> > Maureen> >> >> > Maureen Nevin> > Asbury Radio -"The Radio Voice of Asbury Park"> > 88.1FM - "6" Years on the Air!!> > Asbury's Own Live Talk Showmailto:AsburyRa dio@> > 601 Bangs Avenue> > Listen 8 - 10 PM Thursdays on 88.1FM or> > Listen Live or Later on the Web http://www.asburyra dio.com/> > Call the show 732-775-0821> > Call me 732-774-0779 fax 502-0463> > Speak up - It's America!!> >>
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It sounds like the people who don't live or just moved here(Keady, 
> Hingie) or who own property here{Dan) don't care about bad public 
> relations but the old timers do, why is that? Dan you being a 
> Appraiser isn't it possible that Keadys remarks hurt property 
values? 
> I really wouldn't think so but that's your gig.

They could have, but that would be impossible to measure. In my gut 
I don't think it hurt values any more than the shootings themselves. 
Besides contrary belief, my issue is not criticisms of Keady, but 
rather character assination and although I like Tommy, his spin and 
distortion. No one deserves to be lied about. Everyone is 
responsible for whatthey say and do - not what is misinterpreted - 
purposefully.

Back to property values. What difference does it make if it is the 
truth. Now here is where I am a hypocrite. I'll say what difference 
is there between Keady's remarks about gangs and Fishman's comments 
in the NYT real estate section last year or so about it not being a 
good time to bring families here because the schools are not good? 
If they are both true they have a right to be said. I am 
hypocritical because I lambasted Larry for that (save you all the 
trouble of going back to find my messages).

I only hate Fishman for one reason - he is screwing up the chances 
of this redevelopment more than if each of us went on Good Morning 
America and said they were massacring people here. I don't know why 
you "old-timers" are not fuming at being soft-soaped. In no stretch 
of the imagination can the total lack of progress on the waterfront 
be considered reasonable. It is tantamount to the success of this 
city and it is just not right.

I told Allan to fuck off because I don't want to play games. As for 
rolemover, the more time you have been here and done nothing to move 
this city forward - the more shame on you. Also, I pay plenty of 
taxes and have chosen to keep my property for my family and not rent 
it out - which I could make a killing doing so. Maybe I'll change my 
mind and just say screw this city. Lastly, I would rather have 
someone in office that said something I didn;t like as long as it 
was the truth. I'm too old to have smoke blown up my ass.





 
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[AsburyPark] North Beach Flips on the market

2006-11-06 Thread oakdorf
There are now several North Beach Condo untis on MLS from $849k to $1.3m

For one listed at $849k, assoc fee is $350/month for the $1.3 (sounds 
nice with a 40 ft deck...$635 per month fee - includes - 2 parking 
spaces!!)

That, over 50 commercial properties, 103 homes, condos and more.

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[AsburyPark] Re: Hello

2006-11-06 Thread justifiedright
Welcome Chris,

The Casino is no longer owned by the City of Asbury Park.  It is 
owned by a private company that holds the redevelopment rights to 
the beachfront area.

Other than the part that sits on the sand which is going to be taken 
down, the rest of the structure is going to be saved.

The downside is, there is no timeline as to when it will be 
redeveloped. Therefore, there is still time for some activism in 
that regard.

If you are interested in coming down to look around and catch up, 
feel free to give me a call and I'll gladly meet with you to help 
you in that regard.

Tommy De Seno
732-869-1500






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> Hello Group,
> 
> I was born and raised in NJ and spent most of my summers in Asbury
> Park in the 1960's and seventies. I now would like to call Asbury 
Park
> home.  I have not purchased a home yet (still looking); however, I 
am
> personally invested in the history of the city and want to lend my
> support to help save and/or restore some of the city's unique 
structures. 
> 
> I am particularly interested in what is currently happening with 
the
> Casino building. I would appreciate any information about its 
current
> status and anyone associated with the struggle to either restore or
> rebuild this beautiful historic building.
> 
> I currently reside in NYC which may prevent me from being present 
at
> all current local functions. I do however plan to come to Asbury 
next
> week for the City Council and Planning Board meetings if they are 
open
> to the public. Can anyone shed some light on this matter? Will it 
be
> worth the trip? Any suggestions or names of people who I can meet 
when
> I do come down? Who else can I contact to get more information 
about
> the Casino?
> 
> Thank -you and I hope to meet some of you one day soon.
> 
> Chris Lanni
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Hello

2006-11-06 Thread chris4asbury
Hello Group,

I was born and raised in NJ and spent most of my summers in Asbury
Park in the 1960's and seventies. I now would like to call Asbury Park
home.  I have not purchased a home yet (still looking); however, I am
personally invested in the history of the city and want to lend my
support to help save and/or restore some of the city's unique structures. 

I am particularly interested in what is currently happening with the
Casino building. I would appreciate any information about its current
status and anyone associated with the struggle to either restore or
rebuild this beautiful historic building.

I currently reside in NYC which may prevent me from being present at
all current local functions. I do however plan to come to Asbury next
week for the City Council and Planning Board meetings if they are open
to the public. Can anyone shed some light on this matter? Will it be
worth the trip? Any suggestions or names of people who I can meet when
I do come down? Who else can I contact to get more information about
the Casino?

Thank -you and I hope to meet some of you one day soon.

Chris Lanni




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread Fred


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>

Because that's her style. You haven't learned that yet?



That wasn't the question or the answer Mareueen.
>
> Why would you say that?
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, restore881FM@ wrote:
> >
> > An Inconvenient Truth!! Very witty and very on the money.
> > Please take a listen when I pose the question to last week's
> Repubs and Dems
> > on Asbury Radio. I asked, essentially, if the role of elected
> officials should
> > be to screen their comments for publicity reasons. The guests each
> said that
> > they didn't want their public officials acting as PR people.
> > The sound is up on www.asburyradio.com right now.
> > Thanks,
> > Maureen
> >
> >
> > Maureen Nevin
> > Asbury Radio -"The Radio Voice of Asbury Park"
> > 88.1FM - "6" Years on the Air!!
> > Asbury's Own Live Talk Showmailto:AsburyRadio@
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread justifiedright
That wasn't the question or the answer Mareueen.

Why would you say that?

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> An Inconvenient Truth!!  Very witty and very on the money.
> Please take a listen when I pose the question to last week's 
Repubs and Dems 
> on Asbury Radio. I asked, essentially, if the role of elected 
officials should 
> be to screen their comments for publicity reasons. The guests each 
said that 
> they didn't want their public officials acting as PR people.
> The sound is up on www.asburyradio.com right now.
> Thanks,
> Maureen
> 
> 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)

2006-11-06 Thread restore881FM




An Inconvenient Truth!!  Very witty and very on the money.
Please take a listen when I pose the question to last week's Repubs and Dems on Asbury Radio. I asked, essentially, if the role of elected officials should be to screen their comments for publicity reasons. The guests each said that they didn't want their public officials acting as PR people.
The sound is up on www.asburyradio.com right now.
Thanks,
Maureen
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Kate Helping a Veteran

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
I don't remember seeing her at the Wonder Bar. I must of had to much 
to drink that night.





 When we did the Event at the Wonder for SSG Maurice Craft  that was 
raised here he shook 2 Presidents hands once in 10 grade in A.P.H.S.& 
then  getting the Purpe Heart after losing his leg in Iraq.She had 
alot to do with that Event.In the beginning.More than a alot people 
could ever imagine.Went to his Grandmothers house that rasied him 
here in A/P.Only Council member that went there to see if the 
Grandmother needed anything.Not to many Grandmothers have pictures of 
there grandsons they rasie shaking 2 presidents hands.If you are on 
this site reading this Kate.Thank You.Debbie & Lance for hosting the 
Event also.And to everyone else who came together for him on March 
11, 2005 & get going work it just to come to it.Plus his Care in the 
Past that was sent to him.A/P & the surrounding areas has alot of 
Heart.This is what our Red,White & Blue that flys so proundly all 
over the World is all about.
> 
> James Grabe
> Patriot Officer
> Veterans Alliance
> Asbury Park N.J.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Donating to Asbury Park Little League - Should We?

2006-11-06 Thread Fred
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>Grounded by the state
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/6/06
For a school district that spends more per pupil to educate its 
students than any other district in the state, it should come as no 
great surprise that the Asbury Park school board was set to spend 
$14,000 to send 10 people to an education convention in Los Angeles 
before the state insisted it limit that number to four.

What is surprising is that the board wasn't more sensitive to how 
that might look to state education officials charged with monitoring 
its performance and to taxpayers in suburban districts who regard 
Asbury Park as the poster child for reckless spending.

You would also think the board would have been mindful of the 
brouhaha created last year when it voted to take legal action to 
recover $8,316 from five board members who went to a National School 
Boards Association conference in San Francisco, in violation of a 
state directive limiting trips there to three members at a cost not 
to exceed $4,671.

The current board, which approved the Los Angeles trip last month, 
was bent out of shape that the state stepped in at the last minute, 
forcing the district to eat $2,350 in nonrefundable tickets and food.

"This is something board members were very upset about," board 
President Robert DiSanto said at last week's school board meeting. 
Members deplore "a waste of money," he said.






 
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[AsburyPark] Kate Helping a Veteran

2006-11-06 Thread Jim
When we did the Event at the Wonder for SSG Maurice Craft  that was raised here 
he shook 2 Presidents hands once in 10 grade in A.P.H.S.& then  getting the 
Purpe Heart after losing his leg in Iraq.She had alot to do with that Event.In 
the beginning.More than a alot people could ever imagine.Went to his 
Grandmothers house that rasied him here in A/P.Only Council member that went 
there to see if the Grandmother needed anything.Not to many Grandmothers have 
pictures of there grandsons they rasie shaking 2 presidents hands.If you are on 
this site reading this Kate.Thank You.Debbie & Lance for hosting the Event 
also.And to everyone else who came together for him on March 11, 2005 & get 
going work it just to come to it.Plus his Care in the Past that was sent to 
him.A/P & the surrounding areas has alot of Heart.This is what our Red,White & 
Blue that flys so proundly all over the World is all about.

James Grabe
Patriot Officer
Veterans Alliance
Asbury Park N.J.




 
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