[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright

Seems like the people upset with Jim is getting to be a pretty 
diverse group.  Can they all be wrong?

Any thought at all that maybe he isn't conducting himself very well?


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Jim holds a B.S. in Psychology from St. Joseph's University
> > 
> > BS sums it up...
> 
> 
> meaning what?
> 
> > I taught school for 2 years.  Shall I rush into your children's 
> > school, outside of the curriculum,  and start learnin' 'em?  
> 
> Was he giving instruction?
> 
> > 
> > He could have more training than the Pope (probably thinks he 
> does). 
> > He isn't part of the curriculum and not accepted by the school 
to 
> > teach there.
> 
> Was he teaching? Did he receive permission from the principal?
>  
> > He wasn't there for show and tell.
> 
>  
> > I took Keady at his word and worked under the assumption that he 
> did 
> > have the principal's permission.  Why should I investigate - do 
> you 
> > think he is lying?
> 
> Nice try. You suggested that Keady used undue influence. Muscle I 
> think is the word you used.
> 
> > I believe he needs the Super's permission.  Don't be surprised 
if 
> > principal or super cover for themselves and him and "start to 
> think 
> > they kinda remember something about the Super saying sorta OK or 
> > something."
> 
> I don't thinkhe broke into the school. Some official let him do 
it. 
> If they were not supposed to that is their problem, not his.
>  
> > 
> > Are you suggesting that the principal would let anyone in to 
talk 
> to 
> > the kids just for the asking?  They let Jim in because of his 
> > Council position.
> 
> No, because they thought it was a good idea. Keady goes to the 
> schools to talk to the kids about the shooting to try to some good 
> and again, gets crucified. Why, because he is a councilman? Oh 
> right, he is grand standing again.
> 
> If you don't have your head up someone's (the right someone) ass 
in 
> City Hall, drink the kool aid and sing the company song (Oh Status 
> Quo), you're grand standing in this city.
> 
> Meanwhile, Sanders, Loffredo and Bruno haven't met a photo op they 
> don't like. Loffredo can dress up us Columbus and get marooned on 
> the beach, you dress your kids up as First Peoples (but I bet you 
> like to call them injuns) and Bruno can pontificate about absolute 
> bullshit but that's okay.
> 
> > 
> > You continue to make that charge.  I'm sorry I offended you.  I 
> > didn't know you were gay.
> 
> I'm not gay and the charge fits. I just want to show the level you 
> will stoop to do what you see fit. The ends do not justify the 
means.
> 
> > 
> > It is part of the public record. You'll see it in all the papers 
> > tomorrow.
> 
> 
> I am sure I will. Does no one see the coincidence here? Like or 
> dislike Keady, agree or disagree with him, this is payback for 
> something. I make no charge against the school board and will take 
> them at their word, but this letter on the heels of the UEZ letter 
> just seems fishy to me.
> 
> Perhaps the letter will indicate what Keady did wrong. I hope it 
has 
> some substance relating to what the Board objects to in what Keady 
> may have said to the children. Because if it is solely charging 
that 
> he had no authority to go into the schools, if he got permission 
> from the principal then the issue should be between the Board and 
> the principal.
> 
> Seems to me like the guy contributes a lot of time to run programs 
> for kids to keep them on the straight and narrow and is now 
getting 
> tarred and feathered for trying to do some good for the kids after 
> the shooting. I didn't criticize the Board for closing the schools 
> after the shooting although many did. I think Keady did question 
> that as well in the press. Is this payback? Is he an easy target?
> 
> This City is getting like communist China. You have people afraid 
to 
> identify themselves because of retribution. You have a UEZ 
> overstepping its bounds. Anyone who tries to do good and WHO is 
not 
> paying homage to the powers that be, gets slammed. I have first 
hand 
> experience on that. "Go Along to Get Along" should be the City 
motto.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Jim holds a B.S. in Psychology from St. Joseph's University
> 
> BS sums it up...


meaning what?

> I taught school for 2 years.  Shall I rush into your children's 
> school, outside of the curriculum,  and start learnin' 'em?  

Was he giving instruction?

> 
> He could have more training than the Pope (probably thinks he 
does). 
> He isn't part of the curriculum and not accepted by the school to 
> teach there.

Was he teaching? Did he receive permission from the principal?
 
> He wasn't there for show and tell.

 
> I took Keady at his word and worked under the assumption that he 
did 
> have the principal's permission.  Why should I investigate - do 
you 
> think he is lying?

Nice try. You suggested that Keady used undue influence. Muscle I 
think is the word you used.

> I believe he needs the Super's permission.  Don't be surprised if 
> principal or super cover for themselves and him and "start to 
think 
> they kinda remember something about the Super saying sorta OK or 
> something."

I don't thinkhe broke into the school. Some official let him do it. 
If they were not supposed to that is their problem, not his.
 
> 
> Are you suggesting that the principal would let anyone in to talk 
to 
> the kids just for the asking?  They let Jim in because of his 
> Council position.

No, because they thought it was a good idea. Keady goes to the 
schools to talk to the kids about the shooting to try to some good 
and again, gets crucified. Why, because he is a councilman? Oh 
right, he is grand standing again.

If you don't have your head up someone's (the right someone) ass in 
City Hall, drink the kool aid and sing the company song (Oh Status 
Quo), you're grand standing in this city.

Meanwhile, Sanders, Loffredo and Bruno haven't met a photo op they 
don't like. Loffredo can dress up us Columbus and get marooned on 
the beach, you dress your kids up as First Peoples (but I bet you 
like to call them injuns) and Bruno can pontificate about absolute 
bullshit but that's okay.

> 
> You continue to make that charge.  I'm sorry I offended you.  I 
> didn't know you were gay.

I'm not gay and the charge fits. I just want to show the level you 
will stoop to do what you see fit. The ends do not justify the means.

> 
> It is part of the public record. You'll see it in all the papers 
> tomorrow.


I am sure I will. Does no one see the coincidence here? Like or 
dislike Keady, agree or disagree with him, this is payback for 
something. I make no charge against the school board and will take 
them at their word, but this letter on the heels of the UEZ letter 
just seems fishy to me.

Perhaps the letter will indicate what Keady did wrong. I hope it has 
some substance relating to what the Board objects to in what Keady 
may have said to the children. Because if it is solely charging that 
he had no authority to go into the schools, if he got permission 
from the principal then the issue should be between the Board and 
the principal.

Seems to me like the guy contributes a lot of time to run programs 
for kids to keep them on the straight and narrow and is now getting 
tarred and feathered for trying to do some good for the kids after 
the shooting. I didn't criticize the Board for closing the schools 
after the shooting although many did. I think Keady did question 
that as well in the press. Is this payback? Is he an easy target?

This City is getting like communist China. You have people afraid to 
identify themselves because of retribution. You have a UEZ 
overstepping its bounds. Anyone who tries to do good and WHO is not 
paying homage to the powers that be, gets slammed. I have first hand 
experience on that. "Go Along to Get Along" should be the City motto.






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Jim holds a B.S. in Psychology from St. Joseph's University

BS sums it up...

>and a Masters degree in Theology

God Bless him.

>with a concentration in Social 
> Ethics/Pastoral Theology from St. John's University. Jim taught 
>high 
> school religion for 5 years, including in Monmouth County at St. 
> Rose and St. John Vianney. 

I taught school for 2 years.  Shall I rush into your children's 
school, outside of the curriculum,  and start learnin' 'em?  


> Are you suggesting Jim doesn't have the necessary training to 
>speak 
> to children in schools?

He could have more training than the Pope (probably thinks he does). 
He isn't part of the curriculum and not accepted by the school to 
teach there.


> What about the millions of show and tells that go on daily across 
> America where fathers and mothers go into the schools to tell kids 
> about their occupations? 

He wasn't there for show and tell.

> "Keady is fighting back and saying he had the principal's 
> permission."

> As he should if in fact that is the case. Have you investigated 
>the 
> matter (as a journalist you should) to determine if he had the 
> principal's permission? 

I took Keady at his word and worked under the assumption that he did 
have the principal's permission.  Why should I investigate - do you 
think he is lying?

>And if he did, do the laws also require him 
> to have the BOE permission? If that is true, then who made the 
> infraction, Keady or the principal? Isn't the principal supposed 
>to 
> know what approvals are needed? Are you fishing?

I believe he needs the Super's permission.  Don't be surprised if 
principal or super cover for themselves and him and "start to think 
they kinda remember something about the Super saying sorta OK or 
something."


> Now you are publicly accusing Keady using undue influence (you 
> characterize this as "muscle") to go into the schools. Do you have 
> the evidence to back this up? Why would you characterize it as 
>such 
> without knowing the specifics? 

Are you suggesting that the principal would let anyone in to talk to 
the kids just for the asking?  They let Jim in because of his 
Council position.


>WIl you deny this just as you denied 
> making anti-gay remalrs about Frank and Pallone?

You continue to make that charge.  I'm sorry I offended you.  I 
didn't know you were gay.

> Have you seen this letter? Is it an official communication from 
>the 
> School Board or directly from DiSanto? If it is an official letter 
> from the Board, how did you come to see it? Was it sent to others 
> besides Keady and is it for public perusal?

It is part of the public record. You'll see it in all the papers 
tomorrow.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Rebuke of Keady

2006-11-08 Thread asburycouple
I don't have anything against the guy, but this seems to be another 
case of JK fogetting he is now an elected official vs. a private 
citizen/activist.  It is convenient to say there shouldn't be a 
difference, but there is one.  Nobody forced him to the council.  He 
ran for it and needs to understand it comes with a responsibility and 
accountability that is different that his days as a private citizen, 
where he could swoop into situations or say anything he wanted.









 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Rebuke of Keady

2006-11-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
I'm no member but I know a little. I think the Council and Board got 
the letter. He got blasted pretty good. You can have all the degrees in 
the world but is he license by the State to talk about those kinds of 
things with the kid(law suits). I don't know. He should let the Schoos 
do there jobs. I don't think The City Council would like it if Board 
Members got invovled with City business(it's a homerule thing). He was 
elected to the Council not the Board. I think that's the main part of 
the letter




Perhaps some of the School Board members on this forum can shed some 
> light on the letter from DiSanto to Keady.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Rebuke of Keady

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
Perhaps some of the School Board members on this forum can shed some 
light on the letter from DiSanto to Keady.




 
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[AsburyPark] Keady Blog

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
In your blog you say

"After the recent shootings, our zany left winger apparently wanted 
to hold some hippie hug fest with the kids so he can show the world 
he cares more than the rest of us (so he's a grief counselor now? 
Boy he really is impressive).  Either that or he wants to spread his 
own curriculum - you know - like tell the kids Christopher Columbus 
beat up kittens and puppies."

I pulled this from the web

Jim holds a B.S. in Psychology from St. Joseph's University and a 
Masters degree in Theology with a concentration in Social 
Ethics/Pastoral Theology from St. John's University. Jim taught high 
school religion for 5 years, including in Monmouth County at St. 
Rose and St. John Vianney. 

Are you suggesting Jim doesn't have the necessary training to speak 
to children in schools?

What about the millions of show and tells that go on daily across 
America where fathers and mothers go into the schools to tell kids 
about their occupations? 

Do you suggest that they need special training to do so? Do they 
have more training than Keady? Do you think they need permission of 
the BOEs?

You go onto to say 

"Keady is fighting back and saying he had the principal's 
permission."

As he should if in fact that is the case. Have you investigated the 
matter (as a journalist you should) to determine if he had the 
principal's permission? And if he did, do the laws also require him 
to have the BOE permission? If that is true, then who made the 
infraction, Keady or the principal? Isn't the principal supposed to 
know what approvals are needed? Are you fishing?

You continue

"Who cares if he used his City Council position to muscle an OK from 
the principal?  It wasn't his place.  He isn't qualified to be 
there."

Now you are publicly accusing Keady using undue influence (you 
characterize this as "muscle") to go into the schools. Do you have 
the evidence to back this up? Why would you characterize it as such 
without knowing the specifics? WIl you deny this just as you denied 
making anti-gay remalrs about Frank and Pallone?

More from you

"School Board President Robert DiSanto has written a letter chiding 
him for going to classrooms to lecture without permission"

Have you seen this letter? Is it an official communication from the 
School Board or directly from DiSanto? If it is an official letter 
from the Board, how did you come to see it? Was it sent to others 
besides Keady and is it for public perusal?







 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Yet Another Rebuke of Keady by a Public Official!!!

2006-11-08 Thread MarioAPNJ






Hello 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your shameless self-promotion and 
interminable Pit Bull Shitake: 
 
: 

Breaking news...Read all about it at 
  www.justifiedright.com in the Jersey Shore section.More tomorrow in 
  the triCityNews...

As I mentioned earlier today, I get a red pop-up alert 
from Internet Security Suite 2007 when I try going to your site.  It 
warns about a hack with "malicious content." 
=
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[AsburyPark] Re: Yet Another Rebuke of Keady by a Public Official!!!

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Breaking news...
> 
> Read all about it at www.justifiedright.com in the Jersey Shore 
section.
> 
> More tomorrow in the triCityNews...
>
Tom,

Can you post it tomorrow or send me a copy via email so I don;t have to 
wait until Saturday?





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Yet Another Rebuke of Keady by a Public Official!!!

2006-11-08 Thread Hinge
Ummm...you spelled Brittney Spears wrong. It's Britney
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Breaking news...
> 
> Read all about it at www.justifiedright.com in the Jersey Shore section.
> 
> More tomorrow in the triCityNews...
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[AsburyPark] Yet Another Rebuke of Keady by a Public Official!!!

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright
Breaking news...

Read all about it at www.justifiedright.com in the Jersey Shore section.

More tomorrow in the triCityNews...




 
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[AsburyPark] One Trick Pony Seeks Insight!

2006-11-08 Thread MarioAPNJ






Hello 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment: 

Well Mario the election was won by "Not 
  Bush."I'll give "Not Bush" some time to celebrate (he deserves it), 
  but then I want to know what "Not Bush" is going to do about 
  Iraq.Is "Not Bush" going to leave us there or take us out? Perhaps the 
  Hillary option of putting more troops in?Any insights as to what 
  "Not Bush" will be proposing?

 
And what would "justified right" do with insights?  Just another 
monkey question from you.  
 
You write Yellow Journalism, not insightful journalism.
 
I called Frank's Deli, and they said they will provide the Crow if you call 
in advance.
 
I gotta go dance!  No more monkey questions please. Just eat 
crow.
 
If you don't get the picture, you can see Snoopy Dancing and Crow Eating in 
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Footnote:  "Rush Limbaugh Denies Going Off his Meds to 
Criticize Fox"  
http://www.thespeciousreport.com/2006/06061025limbaugh.html Original Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami
  
Date:
11/8/2006 3:06:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
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Well Mario the election was won by "Not Bush."I'll give "Not Bush" 
some time to celebrate (he deserves it), but then I want to know what "Not 
Bush" is going to do about Iraq.Is "Not Bush" going to leave us there or 
take us out? Perhaps the Hillary option of putting more troops 
in?Any insights as to what "Not Bush" will be proposing?--- In 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. wrote:>> > Hello 
justifiedright@...,> In reference to your comment: > > 
> Looks to me like the people were rejecting the Republican Party, 
> particularly the leadership, but are still accepting of the 
traditional > philosphy.> > > Yup! They rejected 
neocons, and reaffirmed traditional Republicanism.> Just like I said 
many times to you. Your response was to become indignant > at my 
attempts to make those distinctions in defining conservatism. All is 
> documented in archives here.> > > > 
> > > Original Message Subj: 
[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a > Tsunami Date: 11/8/2006 1:49:52 
P.M. Eastern Standard Time From: > _justifiedright@..._ 
(mailto:justifiedri[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: > _AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com) 
Sent on: > > > > --- In 
_AsburyPark@yahoogroAsburyP_ (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com) 
, > "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:> > > I 
will not condemn Republicans and I > > don't think the vote yesterday 
did either. > > I'm gonna have to disagree with you there 
friend.> > GOP was rejected yesterday, but conservatism did well. 
Check out the > public questions from accross the country:> 
> -Property rights initiatives limiting eminent domain won. > 
-MCRI, the anti-racial preference measure, passed. > -Congressman Tom 
Tancredo a GOP congressman looking to close the > borders won.> -I 
believe the California oil tax initiative lost too (although > Missouri 
eeked out the stem cell/cloning amendment). > > Looks to me like 
the people were rejecting the Republican Party, > particularly the 
leadership, but are still accepting of the traditional > 
philosphy.>
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[AsburyPark] Limbaugh Liberated! Jumps GOP ship!

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright
Rush says he is relieved he no longer has to carry water for those that 
don't deserve it!






 
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[AsburyPark] Bloodletting continues....

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright
Hastert won't be leader:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/08/D8L92HQ01.html





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Dancing and Eating

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright
Eat crow? The elections came out pretty darn close to how I 
predicted.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In reference to: 
> 
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> "justifiedright" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
> 
>
..
> 
>  
> Let's make an agreement today.  Just for today.  OK?
>  
> Everybody!  Everybody! Tommy didn't say what he said!
>  
> I have to do my Snoopy Dance to celebrate the election  results.   
And
> why don't you go eat Crow! 
>  
>  
>   
>  
> 
> 
> Original  Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Rummy 
Resigns!  
> Date: 11/8/2006 2:15:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time  From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:
> 
>  
>  
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> "justifiedright" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  You're going to have to stop with that anti-gay stuff.
> > 
> > Calling  someone prejudice is about the worst thing you can call 
> them.
> >  
> > It's an insult of the highest order.
> 
> I took it off and have not  put it back on. I took it off because 
the 
> way I wrote it - it could be  perceived as if I were saying 
Pallone 
> made the anti-gay remarks. I want to  be clear that that is not 
the 
> case. I won;t put it back on corrected just as  a favor to you and 
> because the elections were just sooo good. In any event,  I still 
am 
> not satisified with your half-baked explanations. Do I consider  
you 
> a racist? No. Do I consider you anti-gay? No, but I don't really  
> know. What I do know however is that your remark was  anti-gay.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright
Well Mario the election was won by "Not Bush."

I'll give "Not Bush" some time to celebrate (he deserves it), but 
then I want to know what "Not Bush" is going to do about Iraq.

Is "Not Bush" going to leave us there or take us out?  Perhaps the 
Hillary option of putting more troops in?

Any insights as to what "Not Bush" will be proposing?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> Hello  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> In reference to your comment:  
> 
> 
> Looks to me like the people were  rejecting the Republican Party, 
> particularly the leadership, but are still  accepting of the 
traditional 
> philosphy.
> 
>  
> Yup!  They rejected neocons, and reaffirmed traditional  
Republicanism.
> Just like I said many times to you.  Your response was to become  
indignant 
> at my attempts to make those distinctions in defining  
conservatism.  All is 
> documented in archives here.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Not a 
Wave but a 
> Tsunami  Date: 11/8/2006 1:49:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time  From: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   
Sent on:
> 
>  
>  
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I will not condemn  Republicans and I 
> > don't think the vote yesterday did either.  
> 
> I'm gonna have to disagree with you there friend.
> 
> GOP was  rejected yesterday, but conservatism did well. Check out 
the 
> public  questions from accross the country:
> 
> -Property rights initiatives limiting  eminent domain won. 
> -MCRI, the anti-racial preference measure, passed.  
> -Congressman Tom Tancredo a GOP congressman looking to close the 
> borders  won.
> -I believe the California oil tax initiative lost too (although  
> Missouri eeked out the stem cell/cloning amendment). 
> 
> Looks to me  like the people were rejecting the Republican Party, 
> particularly the  leadership, but are still accepting of the 
traditional  
> philosphy.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Dancing and Eating

2006-11-08 Thread MarioAPNJ



In reference to:

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
  "justifiedright" ...> 
  wrote:>..

 
Let's make an agreement today.  Just for today.  OK?
 
Everybody!  Everybody! Tommy didn't say what he said!
 
I have to do my Snoopy Dance to celebrate the election 
results.   And
why don't you go eat Crow! 
 
 
  
 
 Original 
Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Rummy Resigns!
  
Date:
11/8/2006 2:15:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:    




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"justifiedright" ...> wrote:>> 
You're going to have to stop with that anti-gay stuff.> > Calling 
someone prejudice is about the worst thing you can call them.> 
> It's an insult of the highest order.I took it off and have not 
put it back on. I took it off because the way I wrote it - it could be 
perceived as if I were saying Pallone made the anti-gay remarks. I want to 
be clear that that is not the case. I won;t put it back on corrected just as 
a favor to you and because the elections were just sooo good. In any event, 
I still am not satisified with your half-baked explanations. Do I consider 
you a racist? No. Do I consider you anti-gay? No, but I don't really 
know. What I do know however is that your remark was 
anti-gay.


[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm gonna have to disagree with you there friend.
> 
> GOP was rejected yesterday, but conservatism did well.  Check out 
the 
> public questions from accross the country:
> 
> -Property rights initiatives limiting eminent domain won. 
> -MCRI, the anti-racial preference measure, passed. 
> -Congressman Tom Tancredo a GOP congressman looking to close the 
> borders won.
> -I believe the California oil tax initiative lost too (although 
> Missouri eeked out the stem cell/cloning amendment). 

Selective reporting on your part. I can do it too.

>From the AP

"In a triple setback for conservatives, South Dakotans rejected a 
law that would have banned virtually all abortions, Arizona became 
the first state to defeat an amendment to ban gay marriage and 
Missouri approved a measure backing stem cell research."






 
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[AsburyPark] Scope of Backlash

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
PIERRE, S.D. - A woman who died two months ago won a county 
commissioner's race in Jerauld County on Tuesday. 

Democrat Marie Steichen, of Woonsocket, got 100 votes, defeating 
incumbent Republican Merlin Feistner, of Woonsocket, who had 64 votes. 






 
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[AsburyPark] Brownie - Rummy

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
"Brownie you're doin a heck of a job"

Brown fired days later.

 couple of days ago when Cheney was asked if a democrat victory in 
elections would change the Iraq strategy (what strategy I ask) -

"full speed ahead"

Rummy steps down





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Rummy Resigns!

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You're going to have to stop with that anti-gay stuff.
> 
> Calling someone prejudice is about the worst thing you can call 
them.
> 
> It's an insult of the highest order.


I took it off and have not put it back on. I took it off because the 
way I wrote it - it could be perceived as if I were saying Pallone 
made the anti-gay remarks. I want to be clear that that is not the 
case. I won;t put it back on corrected just as a favor to you and 
because the elections were just sooo good. In any event, I still am 
not satisified with your half-baked explanations. Do I consider you 
a racist? No. Do I consider you anti-gay? No, but I don't really 
know. What I do know however is that your remark was anti-gay.





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami

2006-11-08 Thread MarioAPNJ






Hello 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment: 

Looks to me like the people were 
  rejecting the Republican Party, particularly the leadership, but are still 
  accepting of the traditional philosphy.

 
Yup!  They rejected neocons, and reaffirmed traditional 
Republicanism.
Just like I said many times to you.  Your response was to become 
indignant at my attempts to make those distinctions in defining 
conservatism.  All is documented in archives here.
 
 Original Message 

  
  
Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami
  
Date:
11/8/2006 1:49:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:    




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:> I will not condemn 
Republicans and I > don't think the vote yesterday did either. 
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there friend.GOP was 
rejected yesterday, but conservatism did well. Check out the public 
questions from accross the country:-Property rights initiatives limiting 
eminent domain won. -MCRI, the anti-racial preference measure, passed. 
-Congressman Tom Tancredo a GOP congressman looking to close the borders 
won.-I believe the California oil tax initiative lost too (although 
Missouri eeked out the stem cell/cloning amendment). Looks to me 
like the people were rejecting the Republican Party, particularly the 
leadership, but are still accepting of the traditional 
philosphy.
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Re: [AsburyPark] Rummy Resigns!

2006-11-08 Thread MarioAPNJ






 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment: 

Breaking News here:http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15622266/?GT1=8717Talk 
  about closing the barn door after the horse got 
out

 
The tragedy is that men and women could have been spared death and 
crippling wounds if the jingoists had put down their cliches earlier, much 
earlier, when the military professionals started to raise the red flags about 
the Rumsfeld-Bush strategy / planning.
 
 
 
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Breaking News here:http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15622266/?GT1=8717Talk 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Building Inspector

2006-11-08 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
Yeah he's our guy he's out on leave right now(Thank Godd).The City 
for the next 30 days or so The Construction Official from Washington 
Twp. As for the relationship, no comment. I heard she said she hurt 
her foot just like you said but I think she's still working.


 See story below. Is this guy our building inspector as well? I 
> thought I heard that both of our building inspectors are out on 
> disability at the same time. I aslo heard that they may be linked 
in 
> a relationship and that one went out when they were prohibited from 
> taking home the city car and twisted their ankle moving materials 
> from their personal car to the city car or vice versa. I am sure 
> that Fred and rolemover owing to their positions in the city can 
set 
> the record straight.
> 
> Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/8/06
> BY CAROL GORGA WILLIAMS
> COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU
> 
> WEST LONG BRANCH — Borough officials have hired temporary fill-in 
> workers for Michael Jahn, the controversial building inspector, so 
> Jahn can have surgery, Borough Councilman Joseph C. Woolley 
> announced.
> 
> Jahn holds other part-time positions, including construction 
> official and subcode official, according to the borough directory, 
> and the three jobs pay him a total of $49,000, a sum some residents 
> have criticized as excessive, considering what they term his 
limited 
> availability.
> 
> Woolley said Michael Martin will serve as construction official and 
> building inspector, and Romeo Montano will serve as electrical 
> inspector during the three months that Jahn is expected to need for 
> his recovery from shoulder surgery.
> 
> Martin will work Tuesdays and Thursdays, beginning at 4:45 p.m., 
> until his work is concluded for the day, and Montano would work 
> Tuesdays and Thursdays from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. Both are to be paid 
$25 
> an hour.
> 
> Officials said Jahn is not being paid during his sick leave.
> 
> Council President Richard F. Cooper also announced that the borough 
> is soliciting requests for proposals for professional services, 
> which include legal and engineering services that are up for annual 
> review.
> 
> The proposals will be reviewed at council meetings in December and 
> awarded at the Jan. 1 organizational meeting.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Rummy Resigns!

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright
You're going to have to stop with that anti-gay stuff.

Calling someone prejudice is about the worst thing you can call them.

It's an insult of the highest order.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Breaking News here:
> > 
> > http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15622266/?GT1=8717
> > 
> > 
> > Talk about closing the barn door after the horse got out
> >
> 
> Even more pertinent - Pallone Wins Despite Anti-Gay Remarks!
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I will not condemn Republicans and I 
> don't think the vote yesterday did either. 


I'm gonna have to disagree with you there friend.

GOP was rejected yesterday, but conservatism did well.  Check out the 
public questions from accross the country:

-Property rights initiatives limiting eminent domain won. 
-MCRI, the anti-racial preference measure, passed. 
-Congressman Tom Tancredo a GOP congressman looking to close the 
borders won.
-I believe the California oil tax initiative lost too (although 
Missouri eeked out the stem cell/cloning amendment). 

Looks to me like the people were rejecting the Republican Party, 
particularly the leadership, but are still accepting of the traditional 
philosphy.






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Rummy Resigns!

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Breaking News here:
> 
> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15622266/?GT1=8717
> 
> 
> Talk about closing the barn door after the horse got out
>

Even more pertinent - Pallone Wins Despite Anti-Gay Remarks!




 
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[AsburyPark] Gang Violence

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
An excerpt from the Brick story (http://tinyurl.com/yf8pcj).

"Brick Town is an oasis of sorts in a state struggling against a tide 
of gang violence."





 
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[AsburyPark] Fwd: Encouraging news for AP Homeowners

2006-11-08 Thread MarioAPNJ





The following post is a paste from another group:
 



  An article in the recent "New York Spaces" magazine featuring vacation 
  homes, there is an article titled "Permanent vacation - In New Jersey's 
  Monmouth County, second-home sales are still staying afloat" in goes 
  on to say in part that prices are slightly lower now than in 2005, but 
  area real estate agents point out that last year was a record breaker. 
  Monmouth County has slowed down less than any other county in New 
  Jersey.The article talks about the appeal of the area (the Ocean)and 
  the easy commute to New York city. It mentions Seabright, Spring Lake, 
  Long Branch etc and that there are still communities to be fully 
  discovered -Asbury Park is gaining in popularity.An interest 
  read.

The magazine's homepage is here:  ~ NEW YORK SPACES ~ 

But I can't get to the actual article "Permanent Vacation" for some 
reason.  If anyone else can, please send a link.
 
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[AsburyPark] Iraq for Sale

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
Would be nice to have this screened in AP. Baronet?

http://iraqforsale.bravenewtheaters.com/screening/show/8329-clifton




 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show

2006-11-08 Thread MarioAPNJ






Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment: 

many years did it take you to be become 
  blinded? ... You still can;t see the forest for the trees. How many 
  years should this take? The blind leading the 
blind.

 
Maybe he's a relation (or alter ego) to the blind bishop who used to post 
here.
 Original 
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Subj:
[AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show
  
Date:
11/8/2006 1:09:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
To:
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
  
Sent on:    




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, 
"rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]..> wrote:>> whats inexplicable 
is that dan who has been in town less than 2 years,thinks he knows > 
whats best for asbury, and its a good thing that no one on the council gives 
a rats ass > what he says...he's just pissed that they are going to tear 
down his hangout, the eyesore > deli on kingsley...>Ha 
ha! At least I can identify myself without fear. For the record, 2.5 years 
from actually owning and about 4.5 in studying AP and 3.5 in actively 
looking. Be that as it may, even if it were 2 years or less, it only took me 
a couple of months to see what was wrong. How many years did it take you to 
be become blinded? I make a very good living as a real estate consultant. 
Paid extremely well for my opinion. I have more experience than those is 
charge (city) and those who have the golden ring (Partners) collectively. 
You still can;t see the forest for the trees. How many years should this 
take? The blind leading the blind.
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show

2006-11-08 Thread MarioAPNJ






Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your comment: 

After reading 20 some posts about a 
  construction site with some kids, 2, 4, 400, who knows how many; what is the 
  point...  Some of you call Mario's post a waste of cybertime, but the 
  fence posts (a pun, get it) is not?  By the way, I got the dog and pony 
  comments... 

 
 
Geez!  I misread that post.  I thought the "waste" of 
cyber time was a reference to justifiedright's blog spot which has been promoted 
here and not always Asbury Park focused.
 
My 2007 Internet Security Suite always blocked my access to that 
blog as being a malicious web site.
 
Now that you pointed out that comment, I see that it was merely a 
schoolyard taunt from someone who lashes out when he is challenged on what he 
writes.
 
Welcome back.
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show
  
Date:
11/7/2006 10:09:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
  
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To:
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Sent on:    







Wow!  I used to read this email list and then I stopped--now I 
remember why..
After reading 20 some posts about a construction site with some kids, 2, 4, 
400, who knows how many; what is the point...  Some of you call Mario's 
post a waste of cybertime, but the fence posts (a pun, get it) is not?  By 
the way, I got the dog and pony comments...  But I keep forgetting we have 
always had Asbury "doublespeak", kinda like Alice in Wonderland where 
everything is opposite of what it seems...  So maybe that post should have 
been translated into "doublespeak"...
 
As far as Fishman's comments about the schools, did anyone actually think 
that we were building condos that families with children would buy?  
Pu-leeze!!  Consider our astronomical school budget and the loss of Abbott 
funding added to 15 years of tax abatements (which i agree with but not for 15 
years), am I the only one who has nightmares about that scenario??  
Certainly a scarier thought than a kid or two in a fenceless construction 
site...  
 
Or, maybe this too, is a waste of your cybertime!



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[AsburyPark] Building Inspector

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
See story below. Is this guy our building inspector as well? I 
thought I heard that both of our building inspectors are out on 
disability at the same time. I aslo heard that they may be linked in 
a relationship and that one went out when they were prohibited from 
taking home the city car and twisted their ankle moving materials 
from their personal car to the city car or vice versa. I am sure 
that Fred and rolemover owing to their positions in the city can set 
the record straight.

Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/8/06
BY CAROL GORGA WILLIAMS
COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU

WEST LONG BRANCH — Borough officials have hired temporary fill-in 
workers for Michael Jahn, the controversial building inspector, so 
Jahn can have surgery, Borough Councilman Joseph C. Woolley 
announced.

Jahn holds other part-time positions, including construction 
official and subcode official, according to the borough directory, 
and the three jobs pay him a total of $49,000, a sum some residents 
have criticized as excessive, considering what they term his limited 
availability.

Woolley said Michael Martin will serve as construction official and 
building inspector, and Romeo Montano will serve as electrical 
inspector during the three months that Jahn is expected to need for 
his recovery from shoulder surgery.

Martin will work Tuesdays and Thursdays, beginning at 4:45 p.m., 
until his work is concluded for the day, and Montano would work 
Tuesdays and Thursdays from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. Both are to be paid $25 
an hour.

Officials said Jahn is not being paid during his sick leave.

Council President Richard F. Cooper also announced that the borough 
is soliciting requests for proposals for professional services, 
which include legal and engineering services that are up for annual 
review.

The proposals will be reviewed at council meetings in December and 
awarded at the Jan. 1 organizational meeting.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wow there's whole lotta prejudice there Jack.
> 

There are democrats that believe some of those things too. Most 
democrats voted with Bush on the war. I admit I drank my share of kool 
aid too in the aftermath of 9/11. I will not condemn Republicans and I 
don't think the vote yesterday did either. If you study the voting 
patterns, it was the Independent vote. The vote is a response (which 
the democrats and repubs need to make good on) to Bush's "my way or the 
highway." It is a condemnation on any (whichever party) who went along 
with that. The American people felt that a message needed to be sent 
that the mindless, lemming-like pantomime of Congress to whatever Bush 
wanted must stop. More good news - Rummy steps down.






 
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[AsburyPark] Rummy Resigns!

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright
Breaking News here:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15622266/?GT1=8717


Talk about closing the barn door after the horse got out




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: asbury radio

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Yes there is crime but I don't see a mention of 200 Blood members 
or any other gangs.Not too sure of the connection becuase noboy 
is in disagreement that there is crime in Asbury.  The question was 
200 Blood gang members.  Just makes me wonder if a person relied on 
that site for news, what type of opinion could be made from all the 
spin.

As usual you miss the point. Is really at issue (Giobbie and UEZ, if 
he actually speaks for it) the basis of Keady's comments or the 
comments? If the latter, it doesn't matter if it was true or not. 
Giobbie was a proponent of the truth - not rose-colored glasses.

If I recall correctly, Keady invited you personally to approach him 
with your questions which I assume he will answer. He did that here 
and I assume personally since you once accused me of being privy to 
your personal correspondence with him. Have you spoken to Keady yet? 
Ask him what his basis for the gang figures are. Will it make a 
difference to you? If he has sufficient evidence for his comments 
will you apologize? Why do you continue to look for answers from 
Keady from the forum?





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami

2006-11-08 Thread Hinge
Well, first off, I didn't write it, and I don't have a prejudiced bone in my 
body..
Secondly, Bye Bye Rumsfeld. Breaking news on CNN as I type.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Wow there's whole lotta prejudice there Jack.
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > A friend sent this to me yesterday. I know it has nothing to do 
> with AP, but in light of 
> > yesterdays election it gives food for thought...
> > 
> > Things you have to believe to be a Republican today.
> > 
> > Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary 
> Clinton.
> >  
> > Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's 
> daddy made war 
> > on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad 
> guy when Bush needed 
> > a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
> > 
> > Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist,
> > but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of 
> international harmony.
> > 
> > The United States should get out of the United
> > Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing
> > U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
> >  
> > A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
> > multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all 
> mankind without
> > regulation.
> >  
> > The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in 
> speeches, while slashing 
> > veterans' benefits and combat pay.
> >  
> > If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
> >  
> > A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, 
> then demand their 
> > cooperation and money.
> > 
> > Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing 
> health care to all 
> > Americans is socialism.
> >  
> > HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public 
> at heart.
> >  
> > Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but 
> creationism should be 
> > taught in schools.
> >  
> > A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable 
> offense, but a president 
> > lying to enlist support for a war in which
> > thousands die is solid defense policy.
> > 
> > Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
> > Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring 
> the Internet.
> >  
> > The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but 
> George Bush's driving 
> > record is none of our business.
> >  
> > Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're 
> a conservative radio host.  
> > Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for
> > your recovery.
> >  
> > You support states' rights, but the Attorney General can tell 
> states what local voter 
> > initiatives they have the right to adopt.
> > 
> > What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest,
> > but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycheech"  
> wrote:
> > >
> > > God bless you, Dan!  In one paragraph you summed it all up
> > > beautifully.Long live the Constitution of the United States, 
> and
> > > God save us from the war criminals and traitors in the White 
> House!
> > >   Frank D'Alessandro
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 1994 redux, except the dems this time. 2006 Mid-term elections 
> are the 
> > > > American people's response to the chronic arrogance of the 
> Bush 
> > > > administration and the Republican party. Bush and his right-
> wing, 
> > > > religious zealots have hijacked not only the Republican party, 
> but the 
> > > > Constitution and the rule of law as well. Americans have had 
> enough. 
> > > > The shame is that a lot of  moderate and "liberal" Republicans 
> got 
> > > > washed out to sea.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show

2006-11-08 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> whats inexplicable is that dan who has been in town less than 2 
years,thinks he knows 
> whats best for asbury, and its a good thing that no one on the 
council gives a rats ass 
> what he says...he's just pissed that they are going to tear down 
his hangout, the eyesore 
> deli on kingsley...
>

Ha ha! At least I can identify myself without fear. For the record, 
2.5 years from actually owning and about 4.5 in studying AP and 3.5 
in actively looking. Be that as it may, even if it were 2 years or 
less, it only took me a couple of months to see what was wrong. How 
many years did it take you to be become blinded? I make a very good 
living as a real estate consultant. Paid extremely well for my 
opinion. I have more experience than those is charge (city) and 
those who have the golden ring (Partners) collectively. You still 
can;t see the forest for the trees. How many years should this take? 
The blind leading the blind.






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami

2006-11-08 Thread justifiedright
Wow there's whole lotta prejudice there Jack.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A friend sent this to me yesterday. I know it has nothing to do 
with AP, but in light of 
> yesterdays election it gives food for thought...
> 
> Things you have to believe to be a Republican today.
> 
> Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary 
Clinton.
>  
> Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's 
daddy made war 
> on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad 
guy when Bush needed 
> a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
> 
> Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist,
> but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of 
international harmony.
> 
> The United States should get out of the United
> Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing
> U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
>  
> A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
> multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all 
mankind without
> regulation.
>  
> The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in 
speeches, while slashing 
> veterans' benefits and combat pay.
>  
> If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
>  
> A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, 
then demand their 
> cooperation and money.
> 
> Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing 
health care to all 
> Americans is socialism.
>  
> HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public 
at heart.
>  
> Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but 
creationism should be 
> taught in schools.
>  
> A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable 
offense, but a president 
> lying to enlist support for a war in which
> thousands die is solid defense policy.
> 
> Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
> Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring 
the Internet.
>  
> The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but 
George Bush's driving 
> record is none of our business.
>  
> Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're 
a conservative radio host.  
> Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for
> your recovery.
>  
> You support states' rights, but the Attorney General can tell 
states what local voter 
> initiatives they have the right to adopt.
> 
> What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest,
> but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycheech"  
wrote:
> >
> > God bless you, Dan!  In one paragraph you summed it all up
> > beautifully.Long live the Constitution of the United States, 
and
> > God save us from the war criminals and traitors in the White 
House!
> >   Frank D'Alessandro
> > 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 1994 redux, except the dems this time. 2006 Mid-term elections 
are the 
> > > American people's response to the chronic arrogance of the 
Bush 
> > > administration and the Republican party. Bush and his right-
wing, 
> > > religious zealots have hijacked not only the Republican party, 
but the 
> > > Constitution and the rule of law as well. Americans have had 
enough. 
> > > The shame is that a lot of  moderate and "liberal" Republicans 
got 
> > > washed out to sea.
> > >
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami

2006-11-08 Thread Hinge
A friend sent this to me yesterday. I know it has nothing to do with AP, but in 
light of 
yesterdays election it gives food for thought...

Things you have to believe to be a Republican today.

Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.
 
Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made 
war 
on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad guy when Bush 
needed 
a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist,
but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

The United States should get out of the United
Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing
U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
 
A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without
regulation.
 
The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches, 
while slashing 
veterans' benefits and combat pay.
 
If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
 
A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand 
their 
cooperation and money.

Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing health care 
to all 
Americans is socialism.
 
HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at heart.
 
Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but creationism 
should be 
taught in schools.
 
A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense, but a 
president 
lying to enlist support for a war in which
thousands die is solid defense policy.

Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.
 
The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but George Bush's 
driving 
record is none of our business.
 
Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a 
conservative radio host.  
Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for
your recovery.
 
You support states' rights, but the Attorney General can tell states what local 
voter 
initiatives they have the right to adopt.

What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest,
but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycheech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> God bless you, Dan!  In one paragraph you summed it all up
> beautifully.Long live the Constitution of the United States, and
> God save us from the war criminals and traitors in the White House!
>   Frank D'Alessandro
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> >
> > 1994 redux, except the dems this time. 2006 Mid-term elections are the 
> > American people's response to the chronic arrogance of the Bush 
> > administration and the Republican party. Bush and his right-wing, 
> > religious zealots have hijacked not only the Republican party, but the 
> > Constitution and the rule of law as well. Americans have had enough. 
> > The shame is that a lot of  moderate and "liberal" Republicans got 
> > washed out to sea.
> >
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Not a Wave but a Tsunami

2006-11-08 Thread asburycheech
God bless you, Dan!  In one paragraph you summed it all up
beautifully.Long live the Constitution of the United States, and
God save us from the war criminals and traitors in the White House!
  Frank D'Alessandro


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 1994 redux, except the dems this time. 2006 Mid-term elections are the 
> American people's response to the chronic arrogance of the Bush 
> administration and the Republican party. Bush and his right-wing, 
> religious zealots have hijacked not only the Republican party, but the 
> Constitution and the rule of law as well. Americans have had enough. 
> The shame is that a lot of  moderate and "liberal" Republicans got 
> washed out to sea.
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[AsburyPark] asbury radio

2006-11-08 Thread Allan Peterson


I see Maureen has posted an old letter found by DAN.  
 
"Keady ABC TV Comment Controversy Continues with Discovery of 2003 Letter From Giobbie Recognizing Crime in Asbury Park: dfsavgny Fri Nov 3, 2006 11:40 am (PST) Found this on the web regarding what some perceived to be a negative story about AP in the NYT."
 
Yes there is crime but I don't see a mention of 200 Blood members or any other gangs.    Not too sure of the connection becuase noboy is in disagreement that there is crime in Asbury.  The question was 200 Blood gang members.  Just makes me wonder if a person relied on that site for news, what type of opinion could be made from all the spin.


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Re: [AsburyPark] Blue Wave

2006-11-08 Thread MarioAPNJ






Dan,
 
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Tom, if this blue wave continues you may 
  have to change the nameof your column to Unjustified Right. Welcome 
  Speaker Pelosi.

 

No need.  That column isn't meant to reflect truth; at its best, maybe 
"truthiness."

 
And about that 
blue wave?
 
Poetic Justice!
 
I'm suffering from a touch of Schadenfreude 
this morning.  Maybe two aspirins will contain my joy; couple of 
things in the hopper that need my attention.
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show

2006-11-08 Thread rolemover
whats inexplicable is that dan who has been in town less than 2 years,thinks he 
knows 
whats best for asbury, and its a good thing that no one on the council gives a 
rats ass 
what he says...he's just pissed that they are going to tear down his hangout, 
the eyesore 
deli on kingsley...

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Teddysea@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >  Consider our astronomical school budget and the loss of Abbott  
> funding 
> > added to 15 years of tax abatements (which i agree with but not for 
> 15  years), am 
> > I the only one who has nightmares about that scenario??   Certainly a 
> scarier 
> > thought than a kid or two in a fenceless construction  site...  
> >  
> > Or, maybe this too, is a waste of your  cybertime!
> >
> 
> Noyou are the only one. Certainly within the last year we had about 100 
> posts on that issue. The apologists are unfazed by that spectacle. We 
> can only hope that the funding stays until most of the abatements are 
> burned off. If it lasts 15 years, that might be about right since they 
> all have a maximum life of 16 years from the first one. But I disagree 
> with you about the fence posts. It's a legitimate complaint (plus it 
> came from someone who wasn't here for the abatement/abbott funding 
> debate). What  is inexplicable are the posts defending the poor 
> condition of the sites. I guess because we are getting new curbs, etc., 
> we can overlook anything and everything.
>





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Dog and Pony Show

2006-11-08 Thread wernerapnj
Hi, How have you been ? Yes it seems like the same old AP in many regards. But 
i guess 
those of us who have actually followed this tale, or been personally involved 
would see 
that.

Hope life is treating you well, Werner

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Wow!  I used to read this email list and then I stopped--now I  remember why..
> After reading 20 some posts about a construction site with some kids, 2, 4,  
> 400, who knows how many; what is the point...  Some of you call Mario's  post 
> a waste of cybertime, but the fence posts (a pun, get it) is not?  By  the 
> way, I got the dog and pony comments...  But I keep forgetting we have  
> always 
> had Asbury "doublespeak", kinda like Alice in Wonderland where everything  is 
> opposite of what it seems...  So maybe that post should have been  translated 
> into "doublespeak"...
>  
> As far as Fishman's comments about the schools, did anyone actually think  
> that we were building condos that families with children would buy?   
> Pu-leeze!! 
>  Consider our astronomical school budget and the loss of Abbott  funding 
> added to 15 years of tax abatements (which i agree with but not for 15  
> years), am 
> I the only one who has nightmares about that scenario??   Certainly a scarier 
> thought than a kid or two in a fenceless construction  site...  
>  
> Or, maybe this too, is a waste of your  cybertime!
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