[AsburyPark] Re: ~ROLEMOVER~
Jim: "He's a ghost. He has no identify on the profile. He is just in this area to bust chops. Ignor him, or her... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ~ROLEMOVER~
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> you are the one who attacked our deputy mayor like a madman...hey maybe
> i am a little creepy, but your just plain NUTS!!!
~
~GROUNDHOG~,
We had some nasty words with each other we are moving on.I apologize to Jimmy &
the Council for anything & I said I was wrong we shook hands.Not that it is
your any of business ~GROUNDHOG~.Get a Life & grow up.Do something with your
life what are you the baby of your family.Get that thumb out of your mouth grow
up.You agree about being creepy. Play Fair with everyone on this yahoo site
~GroundHog~ ~~~
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote:
> >
> > You are a very strange creepy person rolemover.I am sure you are
> hiding something.Eat healthy & exercise there good buddy you will feel
> better about yourself.Think postive.I am still waiting for you to tell
> me what you done for Asbury Park.Besides be the ~{ASBURY PARK YAHOO
> GROUNDHOG}~
> >
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[AsburyPark] Re: ~ROLEMOVER~
you are the one who attacked our deputy mayor like a madman...hey maybe
i am a little creepy, but your just plain NUTS!!!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You are a very strange creepy person rolemover.I am sure you are
hiding something.Eat healthy & exercise there good buddy you will feel
better about yourself.Think postive.I am still waiting for you to tell
me what you done for Asbury Park.Besides be the ~{ASBURY PARK YAHOO
GROUNDHOG}~
>
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
On 11/16/2006 at 7:20:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i wasnt taking to you flagpole.. Only pea-brain people with a grave sense of inadequacy assault anonymously. _Urban Dictionary: pea- brain_ (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pea-+brain) (http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?t=17731) Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer. Date: 11/16/2006 7:20:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) Sent on: i wasnt taking to you flagpole.. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) _, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ~~ ~~ ~~ > > > Good Evening Rollmover, > > All those years you been in Asbury Park what have you done for Asbury Park??Besides complain. Be honest! > Did you take your chill pill today?How many miles did you get in today?Did you go for your walk on the Boardwalk like I suggested you should do? > > > > > --- In _ (http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?t=17731) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) _, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > put it this way...i have lived in town all my life and NEVER stepped > > foot in that dumpy deli...it has always been a scary place. do i feel > > bad? nope...she will get alot more than she paid for that dump, and a > > lot more that she would have 5 years ago...why doesnt she cut a deal > > to bring her a business to the boardwalk when she sells if she cares > > about asbury so much? she will get plenty...there will be no crying > > for rita > > > _ (http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?t=17731)
[AsburyPark] "Tempest in a Teapot" -- Thanks, Frank
Best read today is Frank D'Alessandro's letter to the editor in today's Coaster. There was an awful stench coming from the latest pile of triCity News; so I passed it by. Maybe they'll have themselves fumigated before the next issue is due out in two weeks.
[AsburyPark] ~ROLEMOVER~
You are a very strange creepy person rolemover.I am sure you are hiding
something.Eat healthy & exercise there good buddy you will feel better about
yourself.Think postive.I am still waiting for you to tell me what you done for
Asbury Park.Besides be the ~{ASBURY PARK YAHOO GROUNDHOG}~
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
I like the deli. It's ugly on the outside, and kinda cool on the inside. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > put it this way...i have lived in town all my life and NEVER stepped > foot in that dumpy deli...it has always been a scary place. do i feel > bad? nope...she will get alot more than she paid for that dump, and a > lot more that she would have 5 years ago...why doesnt she cut a deal > to bring her a business to the boardwalk when she sells if she cares > about asbury so much? she will get plenty...there will be no crying > for rita > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dan Dan Dan if there were no redevelopement she would get nothing > for > > that property. She'll get good money. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do you disagree that this has been a hangout for whores and > > > drugies > > > > for years? > > > > > > The whole town is. I constantly call the police when I see them > > walk > > > by. I have been at Rita's many times and have never seen here > > > encourage anyone who looks criminal to hangout in her place or in > > > front of her store. In fact I have seen Rita confront people who > > > look like troublemakers. She's a great lady. It's sad to see her > > get > > > such a raw deal. People have put their blood and sweat into > places > > > over the years and can't even get what the market would bear. If > > she > > > and others were not facing condemnation she could get a very > pretty > > > price and it wouldn't hurt you, me or anyone else in this town. > It > > > wouldn;t stop one bit of development and the only person who > would > > > get less is Fishman - someone who has NOT fulfilled his end of > the > > > bargain. Don't start me again. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" wrote: > > > >> > > > > Dan Dan Dan if there were no redevelopement she would get nothing > for > > that property. She'll get good money. > > If there were no redevelopment we wouldn't be talking. But there is > redevelopment and that's the point. I said it last year and I'll say > it again. More development has taken place under a free market, with > developers negotiating to assemble parcels, than has under eminent > domain with property owners having a gun to their heads. I deal with > that every day. I just got off two phone calls dealing with that > talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. AP wasn't developed > beforehand because it was tied up in litigation. Get that through > your head. You have gold here. God isn't making any more coastline > these days, although if global warming continues I may have > beachfront property soon. Don't listen to me though, I'm only paid > for my real estate advice. I just off the phone with NYT giving > advice and another with attorneys for property owners who want to > pay me annual retainers to do nothing but be available to them to > give advice. What do I know? you know how to talk out of your ass > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
i wasnt taking to you flagpole.. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Good Evening Rollmover, > > All those years you been in Asbury Park what have you done for Asbury Park??Besides complain. Be honest! > Did you take your chill pill today?How many miles did you get in today?Did you go for your walk on the Boardwalk like I suggested you should do? > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > put it this way...i have lived in town all my life and NEVER stepped > > foot in that dumpy deli...it has always been a scary place. do i feel > > bad? nope...she will get alot more than she paid for that dump, and a > > lot more that she would have 5 years ago...why doesnt she cut a deal > > to bring her a business to the boardwalk when she sells if she cares > > about asbury so much? she will get plenty...there will be no crying > > for rita > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] West Side Issues Topic for Asbury Radio Tonight
Please let others know that we'll be discussing issues of the West Side of Asbury Park tonight, with pastors Walsh and Bradley, and social worker Jessica Tighe. Callers are encouraged to call in and present their views. Thanks very much, Maureen - 88.1 FM and live on www.asburyradio.com 8 - 10 pm tonight. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
Good Evening Rollmover, All those years you been in Asbury Park what have you done for Asbury Park??Besides complain. Be honest! Did you take your chill pill today?How many miles did you get in today?Did you go for your walk on the Boardwalk like I suggested you should do? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > put it this way...i have lived in town all my life and NEVER stepped > foot in that dumpy deli...it has always been a scary place. do i feel > bad? nope...she will get alot more than she paid for that dump, and a > lot more that she would have 5 years ago...why doesnt she cut a deal > to bring her a business to the boardwalk when she sells if she cares > about asbury so much? she will get plenty...there will be no crying > for rita > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
If you believe what you've just posted, you're living in a fantasy world. Asbury has just had 3 shootings, the last resulting in the death of a teen-aged boy, who wasn't involved in the gangs, who by Black estimates, was well liked, well known to HIS community, but wasn't protected, as he walked down the street, to be shot down in cold blood, only to have this discourse occurring over who should and shouldn't, speak about the problems of urban life, in a twon that is 1 sq. mile, that is more Black now, than white. What a mind-set, the powers that be have, to only think of their bottom line, which 10 years ago, wasn't here. Say what you will, but life for Black youths is cheap, here. If all, any of you think, that the occurrance of a young, black child, being shot to death, is "bad for business and redevelopment", like a blip on the radar, I will leave this up-South, racist town, tomorrow! You're no better than the murderers, of Emmett Till, Martin Luther King, Jr., or Malcolm X! Let all of the Blacks leave and see if you get Abbott Funds, Block Grants, etc. This town is run off the backs of Blacks, who get nothing, but the federal funds keep rolling in, huh? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > > > > > > > > There will alway be an Eastside- Westside everywhere. Take a poll of > the reidents who REALLY live there and they will disagree. You know > what's going to happen when the Westside gets builded up new people > are going to move in values will go up and resident will move. Then > you get blames for forcing residents out and making it a white town. > It's a balancing act. > > > > > If you think Asbury is like it was in the 70's you're nuts. Tensions > > > are no way near that level. > > > > > I guess I stated my thought incorrectly. BUT, there is still, and > will > > be, he EAST SIDE vs WEST SIDE. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
put it this way...i have lived in town all my life and NEVER stepped foot in that dumpy deli...it has always been a scary place. do i feel bad? nope...she will get alot more than she paid for that dump, and a lot more that she would have 5 years ago...why doesnt she cut a deal to bring her a business to the boardwalk when she sells if she cares about asbury so much? she will get plenty...there will be no crying for rita --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > > > > Dan Dan Dan if there were no redevelopement she would get nothing for > that property. She'll get good money. > > > > > > > do you disagree that this has been a hangout for whores and > > drugies > > > for years? > > > > The whole town is. I constantly call the police when I see them > walk > > by. I have been at Rita's many times and have never seen here > > encourage anyone who looks criminal to hangout in her place or in > > front of her store. In fact I have seen Rita confront people who > > look like troublemakers. She's a great lady. It's sad to see her > get > > such a raw deal. People have put their blood and sweat into places > > over the years and can't even get what the market would bear. If > she > > and others were not facing condemnation she could get a very pretty > > price and it wouldn't hurt you, me or anyone else in this town. It > > wouldn;t stop one bit of development and the only person who would > > get less is Fishman - someone who has NOT fulfilled his end of the > > bargain. Don't start me again. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > Dan Dan Dan if there were no redevelopement she would get nothing for > that property. She'll get good money. If there were no redevelopment we wouldn't be talking. But there is redevelopment and that's the point. I said it last year and I'll say it again. More development has taken place under a free market, with developers negotiating to assemble parcels, than has under eminent domain with property owners having a gun to their heads. I deal with that every day. I just got off two phone calls dealing with that talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. AP wasn't developed beforehand because it was tied up in litigation. Get that through your head. You have gold here. God isn't making any more coastline these days, although if global warming continues I may have beachfront property soon. Don't listen to me though, I'm only paid for my real estate advice. I just off the phone with NYT giving advice and another with attorneys for property owners who want to pay me annual retainers to do nothing but be available to them to give advice. What do I know? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > Dan Dan Dan if there were no redevelopement she would get nothing for that property. She'll get good money. do you disagree that this has been a hangout for whores and > drugies > > for years? > > The whole town is. I constantly call the police when I see them walk > by. I have been at Rita's many times and have never seen here > encourage anyone who looks criminal to hangout in her place or in > front of her store. In fact I have seen Rita confront people who > look like troublemakers. She's a great lady. It's sad to see her get > such a raw deal. People have put their blood and sweat into places > over the years and can't even get what the market would bear. If she > and others were not facing condemnation she could get a very pretty > price and it wouldn't hurt you, me or anyone else in this town. It > wouldn;t stop one bit of development and the only person who would > get less is Fishman - someone who has NOT fulfilled his end of the > bargain. Don't start me again. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > do you disagree that this has been a hangout for whores and drugies > for years? The whole town is. I constantly call the police when I see them walk by. I have been at Rita's many times and have never seen here encourage anyone who looks criminal to hangout in her place or in front of her store. In fact I have seen Rita confront people who look like troublemakers. She's a great lady. It's sad to see her get such a raw deal. People have put their blood and sweat into places over the years and can't even get what the market would bear. If she and others were not facing condemnation she could get a very pretty price and it wouldn't hurt you, me or anyone else in this town. It wouldn;t stop one bit of development and the only person who would get less is Fishman - someone who has NOT fulfilled his end of the bargain. Don't start me again. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
do you disagree that this has been a hangout for whores and drugies for years? i still drive by there today and see hookers hanging out in front of that eyesore deli... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > no the hooker deli has kept asbury down for a long time... > > I disagree but that is my opinion. > > > > > my point was that you were not here to see what asbury looked like > 10 > > years ago...i am very happy that you keep your property nice, if > > everyone took pride in that also, asbury would be a much better > > place...pride is important > > Well that is different and I am glad you clarified that because it > sounded as like their was seniority issue at play. I'm glad that we > understand each other. > > >...do you think that your constant > > grumbling about the council and the partners really helps? > > I only grumble about one thing - the redevelopment and the majority > on the council's inability/unwillingness to make Partners fulfill > its obligations. > > > from someone who has been around, could things be better? > yes...are > > they much better than they were 5 years ago? HELL YESthats > what > > im saying... > > I appreciate your perspective and I think I have responded to that > many times. Under any circumstances, things could always be better. > However, because things are somewhat better now, should not be a > reason to not demand that promises made be kept. I am very aware > that things are "relatively" better than they were. However, the > longer someone has been here the more they should want (and possibly > deserve) that these promises be kept. Don't settle for less. As a > long-time resident you deserve it. Four years is just too long to > have not started the restoration. It will not be finished for a > number of years if at all. There is no reason why the whole thing > (waterfront restoration) could not have been completed within 5-6 > years at the most. Real developers would have done it in less. The > council really feels the same way, but won;t say it publicly, > although it did say it somewhat last December. Partners doesn;t have > what it takes. Believe me. If it did we would be well on our way > already. The council's job is to make sure it gets done and it > hasn't. It has not prodded Partners. Sorry, but they have to get my > complaints then. The same thing goes for the Triangle and C-8. You > just can't operate that way. At least Aaron has been marginalized - > that the council finally saw. I would be very happy to shut up if > they just came through. Eventually somebody hears, so yes, the > complaints do do some good. At least I'll try. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The Thursday Brown report
Greetings: Tonight's "episode" will be interesting and available at _www.asburyparknj.com_ (http://www.asburyparknj.com) . The fresh program should be online no later than 6 p.m. In response to a number of email we have received I have added an international segment, revitalized the Red Bank segment. Of course the Asbury Segment got the most email comments, most mentioned a concern about me only talking about Councilman Keady, so I am doing a critque of The Radio Gal tonight in the asbury portion. Most likely she will slap me the next time she runs into me. I had a guest technical director today, who exchanged their volunteer service for some of my technology skills. The program will be on demand at _www.electricnews.com_ (http://www.electricnews.com) as well. Feel free to send email comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) KEVIN BROWN THE BROWN REPORT
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > no the hooker deli has kept asbury down for a long time... I disagree but that is my opinion. > > my point was that you were not here to see what asbury looked like 10 > years ago...i am very happy that you keep your property nice, if > everyone took pride in that also, asbury would be a much better > place...pride is important Well that is different and I am glad you clarified that because it sounded as like their was seniority issue at play. I'm glad that we understand each other. >...do you think that your constant > grumbling about the council and the partners really helps? I only grumble about one thing - the redevelopment and the majority on the council's inability/unwillingness to make Partners fulfill its obligations. > from someone who has been around, could things be better? yes...are > they much better than they were 5 years ago? HELL YESthats what > im saying... I appreciate your perspective and I think I have responded to that many times. Under any circumstances, things could always be better. However, because things are somewhat better now, should not be a reason to not demand that promises made be kept. I am very aware that things are "relatively" better than they were. However, the longer someone has been here the more they should want (and possibly deserve) that these promises be kept. Don't settle for less. As a long-time resident you deserve it. Four years is just too long to have not started the restoration. It will not be finished for a number of years if at all. There is no reason why the whole thing (waterfront restoration) could not have been completed within 5-6 years at the most. Real developers would have done it in less. The council really feels the same way, but won;t say it publicly, although it did say it somewhat last December. Partners doesn;t have what it takes. Believe me. If it did we would be well on our way already. The council's job is to make sure it gets done and it hasn't. It has not prodded Partners. Sorry, but they have to get my complaints then. The same thing goes for the Triangle and C-8. You just can't operate that way. At least Aaron has been marginalized - that the council finally saw. I would be very happy to shut up if they just came through. Eventually somebody hears, so yes, the complaints do do some good. At least I'll try. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
. > > There is a Main Street Red. Connittee which should be releasing some news soon. It will only be the "southwest side". And guess what. There's an > excellent opportunity to build it up. From Springwood Ave North to > Asbury Ave. > > Take a look at Belmar and their "redevelopment" plan for main street. > If ever a town DID not need one. Take that to Main Street AP and rework > from the post office north. You could, in concept, rework every block > along the tracks -with affordable (as in "market") housing, rentals > etc. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry Dan but I was told by a reliable source that the group that > came to the Council Meeting lied when they said there was no heat or > utilizes at the WSCC> The truth as I was told was that the WSCC was > charging them $50 to use it to pay for the Utilizes. They didn't like > it so they come to a meeting and blame the city. I don't have the facts on this and I have not said the groups the other night were justified. I simply said that whether justified or not it is a fact that they are angry and that much, if not all of it, was precipitated by the unjustified attacks on Keady. > Also I was told that > Rev. Nunn has always been a mouthpiece for Muhommen. I don't know Rev Nunn. I have seen him and I have read an article by him in the APP that I am not to fond of because I think it has strains of anti-semitism in it (you can google it for yourself). I will reserve my opinion until I see more, but I am watching. > Dan the things I say might not be right on but I'm in the ballpark. So is a foul ball. > People can say what they want but since the return of Tommy and me to > this group, the amount of posts have tripled. I have no problem with your (or Tom's) posting. I have a problem with lies and distortion. You are free to disagree with me all you want but I draw the line at lies and distortion and that goes mainly to Tom. Also, I think Leslie and Jim should be cut a little slack even if you disagree with what they say or do or if your vision for AP differs from theirs. No one should be lied about and they are very decent people. It is just not right. Everyone deserves a fair shot, and that includes those I criticize too such as Fishman and Bruno. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
Right, there won't be an East Side vs. West Side. It will only be the "southwest side". And guess what. There's an excellent opportunity to build it up. From Springwood Ave North to Asbury Ave. Take a look at Belmar and their "redevelopment" plan for main street. If ever a town DID not need one. Take that to Main Street AP and rework from the post office north. You could, in concept, rework every block along the tracks -with affordable (as in "market") housing, rentals etc. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > Sorry Dan but I was told by a reliable source that the group that came to the Council Meeting lied when they said there was no heat or utilizes at the WSCC> The truth as I was told was that the WSCC was charging them $50 to use it to pay for the Utilizes. They didn't like it so they come to a meeting and blame the city. Also I was told that Rev. Nunn has always been a mouthpiece for Muhommen. Dan the things I say might not be right on but I'm in the ballpark. People can say what they want but since the return of Tommy and me to this group, the amount of posts have tripled. Racism will be here for a while. But using the race card to get money > isn't a good thing. The race card was used by some of these same > people last year when some White Women from Bradley Beach started it > up with jobs. she came with her group once or twice never to be heard > from again. Now it's Rev. Nunn and Muhammen who by the way were > involved last year. Sorry Dan but I was told by a relia > > > > > I also don't think it's as bad as it was in the 70's > > The sad fact is that racism still exists in our society, and sadly > it's very much at play in > > Asbury Park. > > Even in my regular life, it blows my mind that racism comes from > the people you least > > expect. > > I've heard people casually make a racist comment if front of a > group of people, as if the > > commenter thinks it's ok, and that the people in the group agree. > That just plain makes me > > sick. I've actually lost friends over this kind of thing. > > It sure would be great for both Asbury and society as well if > things could be done to lessen > > the racism in our world. > > Jack > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If you think Asbury is like it was in the 70's you're nuts. > Tensions > > > > are no way near that level. > > > > > > > I guess I stated my thought incorrectly. BUT, there is still, and > will > > > be, he EAST SIDE vs WEST SIDE. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
no the hooker deli has kept asbury down for a long time... my point was that you were not here to see what asbury looked like 10 years ago...i am very happy that you keep your property nice, if everyone took pride in that also, asbury would be a much better place...pride is important...do you think that your constant grumbling about the council and the partners really helps? take it it from someone who has been around, could things be better? yes...are they much better than they were 5 years ago? HELL YESthats what im saying... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > i for one am glad that it has been slow going, this way you have a > > better chance of getting it right...i think what we are going to > get, > > and what we would have gotten 4 years ago are two different > things..i > > am looking at the fact that there is a new boardwalk, new shops on > it, > > life down there now...the beaches in asbury had the best year in > over > > 20 years this year (did you go to the guitarbque this past > summer)... > > > > Well, you obviously are at odds within even Bruno, Loffredo and > Sanders as to the pace. > > > with new roads and sidewalks, this place is going to look amazing > by > > next summer...will it be done? no...dan you have proven over and > over > > that you were nowhere near asbury park 10 years ago > > I'm here now. I have less blood on my hands than you. Maybe if I > were here for years I'd be a slumlord. I bet I could make a fortune > filling my house with Sect 8. How about a soup kitchen or shelter? > Hmm, maybe I should seek out some religious organization to help the > homeless. > > My intentions are real bad. I pay tons of money to use my house on > weekends. I pay people to make sure my grass is cut and litter is > picked up. Boy, I suck. > > If new people didn't come into this town over the past decade you > would have even less than there is now. You don't have to thank the > newcomers, it is our pleasure. And much goes to the old business > owners who hung in there and the new ones taking a chance. You have > places like the WB doing what Partners can't. > > >..i cant wait till > > they roll right over that piece of shit cockroach hooker- > attraction > > deli on kingsly...oh that will be a happy day... > > > > You are a very sad person. Your attitude is what has kept AP down so > long. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Racism will be here for a while. But using the race card to get money isn't a good thing. The race card was used by some of these same people last year when some White Women from Bradley Beach started it up with jobs. she came with her group once or twice never to be heard from again. Now it's Rev. Nunn and Muhammen who by the way were involved last year. Sorry Dan but I was told by a relia I also don't think it's as bad as it was in the 70's > The sad fact is that racism still exists in our society, and sadly it's very much at play in > Asbury Park. > Even in my regular life, it blows my mind that racism comes from the people you least > expect. > I've heard people casually make a racist comment if front of a group of people, as if the > commenter thinks it's ok, and that the people in the group agree. That just plain makes me > sick. I've actually lost friends over this kind of thing. > It sure would be great for both Asbury and society as well if things could be done to lessen > the racism in our world. > Jack > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" wrote: > > > > > > > If you think Asbury is like it was in the 70's you're nuts. Tensions > > > are no way near that level. > > > > > I guess I stated my thought incorrectly. BUT, there is still, and will > > be, he EAST SIDE vs WEST SIDE. > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There will alway be an Eastside- Westside everywhere. Take a poll of the reidents who REALLY live there and they will disagree. You know what's going to happen when the Westside gets builded up new people are going to move in values will go up and resident will move. Then you get blames for forcing residents out and making it a white town. It's a balancing act. If you think Asbury is like it was in the 70's you're nuts. Tensions > > are no way near that level. > > > I guess I stated my thought incorrectly. BUT, there is still, and will > be, he EAST SIDE vs WEST SIDE. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
I also don't think it's as bad as it was in the 70's The sad fact is that racism still exists in our society, and sadly it's very much at play in Asbury Park. Even in my regular life, it blows my mind that racism comes from the people you least expect. I've heard people casually make a racist comment if front of a group of people, as if the commenter thinks it's ok, and that the people in the group agree. That just plain makes me sick. I've actually lost friends over this kind of thing. It sure would be great for both Asbury and society as well if things could be done to lessen the racism in our world. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If you think Asbury is like it was in the 70's you're nuts. Tensions > > are no way near that level. > > > I guess I stated my thought incorrectly. BUT, there is still, and will > be, he EAST SIDE vs WEST SIDE. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i for one am glad that it has been slow going, this way you have a > better chance of getting it right...i think what we are going to get, > and what we would have gotten 4 years ago are two different things..i > am looking at the fact that there is a new boardwalk, new shops on it, > life down there now...the beaches in asbury had the best year in over > 20 years this year (did you go to the guitarbque this past summer)... > Well, you obviously are at odds within even Bruno, Loffredo and Sanders as to the pace. > with new roads and sidewalks, this place is going to look amazing by > next summer...will it be done? no...dan you have proven over and over > that you were nowhere near asbury park 10 years ago I'm here now. I have less blood on my hands than you. Maybe if I were here for years I'd be a slumlord. I bet I could make a fortune filling my house with Sect 8. How about a soup kitchen or shelter? Hmm, maybe I should seek out some religious organization to help the homeless. My intentions are real bad. I pay tons of money to use my house on weekends. I pay people to make sure my grass is cut and litter is picked up. Boy, I suck. If new people didn't come into this town over the past decade you would have even less than there is now. You don't have to thank the newcomers, it is our pleasure. And much goes to the old business owners who hung in there and the new ones taking a chance. You have places like the WB doing what Partners can't. >..i cant wait till > they roll right over that piece of shit cockroach hooker- attraction > deli on kingsly...oh that will be a happy day... > You are a very sad person. Your attitude is what has kept AP down so long. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
> If you think Asbury is like it was in the 70's you're nuts. Tensions > are no way near that level. > I guess I stated my thought incorrectly. BUT, there is still, and will be, he EAST SIDE vs WEST SIDE. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > Tommy has been on this Board for years, me less than a year. I left > in May because someone lied concerning Joe D. I can't speak for Tommy > (or could I) and the reason he left. It might be time to disappear > again. Because we'll getting way off base again. > What was the lie about Joe D? When you were posting your inside info on the Dispute Resolution Agreement before it came out Joe D was emailing me privately telling me you were wrong. You were posting in opposition to the info I was posting, which came from Joe D directly. That's how he got it out without putting his name to it. May he rest in peace, I liked Joe. I don't want you or Tom to leave. Tom said he left because he was a lighting rod. That's okay as long as what you say is the truth. We have differences of opinion, but as Tom likes to say, you are not entitled to your own set of facts, neither am I. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Coffee Drinkers Have Better Memory
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[AsburyPark] Re: Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you think Asbury is like it was in the 70's you're nuts. Tensions are no way near that level. Ok - so I read the following article 10 times. How has really changed > in 36 years? > > To the thousands who flock each summer weekend to its white sand > beaches and boardwalk carnival rides, Asbury Park, N.J., seems a > tidy, if somewhat faded haven of tranquillity. But it is also, like > many American small towns, a community where "across the tracks" > still has a vivid, invidious meaning. To the east of the Penn Central > railroad line, where well-kept lawns sweep toward the Atlantic Ocean, > live most of Asbury Park's 12,500 whites. On the West Side, in a > ghetto of frame houses splaying out from Springwood Avenue, live most > of Asbury Park's 8,500 blacks. Last week the tranquillity was > shattered by four nights of black riots that began on the West Side > but spilled briefly across the tracks to white Asbury Park as well. > The toll was 190 injured, 174 arrested and some $4,000,000 in damages > to stores and residences. > > The trouble began with rock and bottle throwing following an > Independence Day dance on the West Side. For two days the window- > smashing, fire-bombing and looting were confined to the black > neighborhood, leaving it without power and short on food, and turning > much of Springwood Avenue into a smoldering ruin. Though the town has > a white mayor and a black police chief, efforts to negotiate a truce > failed. Angry black teen-agers then led a charge across the Penn > Central tracks into the fringe of the white business district. The > litany of their grievances was reproachfully familiar: too little > urban renewal, too few jobs, inadequate play areas, inadequate > communication between black and white leaders. When the unemployed of > Asbury Park look to the local welfare officer for help, they find her > in the telephone directory under the listing Overseer of the Poor. > > Giving a hard, immediate edge to the battle was the behavior of many > of the 200-odd New Jersey state troopers called in to quell the > rioting, a job some executed with zeal. Ninety-two blacks were > wounded by police shotguns and pellet guns. But Asbury Park's black > residents had smashed the town's complacency. After two days of > rioting, but before the white district had been hit, Mayor Joseph F. > Mattice had said: "We're very fortunate it occurred where it did. It > didn't affect our business area." > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
i for one am glad that it has been slow going, this way you have a better chance of getting it right...i think what we are going to get, and what we would have gotten 4 years ago are two different things..i am looking at the fact that there is a new boardwalk, new shops on it, life down there now...the beaches in asbury had the best year in over 20 years this year (did you go to the guitarbque this past summer)... with new roads and sidewalks, this place is going to look amazing by next summer...will it be done? no...dan you have proven over and over that you were nowhere near asbury park 10 years ago..i cant wait till they roll right over that piece of shit cockroach hooker-attraction deli on kingsly...oh that will be a happy day... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > you need a new seeing eye dog > > > > And you a reality check. Have it your way, it's all complete. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Trouble Across the Tracks - from a 1970 article
Ok - so I read the following article 10 times. How has really changed in 36 years? To the thousands who flock each summer weekend to its white sand beaches and boardwalk carnival rides, Asbury Park, N.J., seems a tidy, if somewhat faded haven of tranquillity. But it is also, like many American small towns, a community where "across the tracks" still has a vivid, invidious meaning. To the east of the Penn Central railroad line, where well-kept lawns sweep toward the Atlantic Ocean, live most of Asbury Park's 12,500 whites. On the West Side, in a ghetto of frame houses splaying out from Springwood Avenue, live most of Asbury Park's 8,500 blacks. Last week the tranquillity was shattered by four nights of black riots that began on the West Side but spilled briefly across the tracks to white Asbury Park as well. The toll was 190 injured, 174 arrested and some $4,000,000 in damages to stores and residences. The trouble began with rock and bottle throwing following an Independence Day dance on the West Side. For two days the window- smashing, fire-bombing and looting were confined to the black neighborhood, leaving it without power and short on food, and turning much of Springwood Avenue into a smoldering ruin. Though the town has a white mayor and a black police chief, efforts to negotiate a truce failed. Angry black teen-agers then led a charge across the Penn Central tracks into the fringe of the white business district. The litany of their grievances was reproachfully familiar: too little urban renewal, too few jobs, inadequate play areas, inadequate communication between black and white leaders. When the unemployed of Asbury Park look to the local welfare officer for help, they find her in the telephone directory under the listing Overseer of the Poor. Giving a hard, immediate edge to the battle was the behavior of many of the 200-odd New Jersey state troopers called in to quell the rioting, a job some executed with zeal. Ninety-two blacks were wounded by police shotguns and pellet guns. But Asbury Park's black residents had smashed the town's complacency. After two days of rioting, but before the white district had been hit, Mayor Joseph F. Mattice had said: "We're very fortunate it occurred where it did. It didn't affect our business area." Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] (unknown)
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's a lighter side email about asbury's past: > > http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/mail/mail24.htm > I rest my case - Fred - rolemover. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > First of all Mrs. Keady most people on this Board don't call this > place home including his biggest supporter who says some off the wall > things. I support the truth and defended Keady because what was being said simply wasn't true. As for me not living here full time - tough. Even if I did not pay taxes, I still have a right to say something. And considering that I pay almost $10K a year in taxes, I'll continue to say what I see as wrong. > Most things said on this Board are hearsay. Most things that are hearsay come from your mouth and turn out to be wrong Freddy boy. > As for me being Bruno you are close but no cigar. You must be > talking to Dan. That was my initial guess but you set me straight on that a while back. It doesn't really though. It is just that little weight can be given to posts from the shadows. You are too partial to acknowledge the fact that someone was lied about. That's your problem. I can't see why groups would want to be divisive in this town. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tommy has been on this Board for years, me less than a year. I left in May because someone lied concerning Joe D. I can't speak for Tommy (or could I) and the reason he left. It might be time to disappear again. Because we'll getting way off base again. I think that the anger and viciousness that JK's wife is talking about is destroying this > message board. > Before Tommy came on board, this was a fun place to visit, but since then it's been about > one thing, and one thing only. > It's got to stop. > And another thing, getting your information from the Asbury Park Press is a big mistake. > Please stop this smear campaign. > You know what would be great, if people start talking about Asbury as a whole again, and > stop focusing on the just one issue. > And Tommy, I think you should leave, before you do more damage to your credibility. > You still have your website and the TCN to spread your opinions. Stop poisoning this > place. > Please? > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "kretzu" wrote: > > > > Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council meeting, > > so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by the > > Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside in > > an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund. Following > > that, the community could come forth with proposals for programming > > or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which > > proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this up to > > the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor Sanders > > argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and Nancy > > Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at the > > West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to > > meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former > > Executive Director, director of fundraising and others. > > Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers. > > > > On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that the > > amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom > > DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim Bruno) > > has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote a > > personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear to have made > > a difference. Criticizing an elected official's policies is good and > > everyone has a right and duty to do that. But Tom has been lying > > about the facts in order to turn public opinion against an elected > > official in a place that he doesn't even call home. > > > > This shouldn't be the Rush Limbaugh show. Asbury Park is 1 square > > mile and more or less, we all know each other. I know the colleges > > that Jim Bruno's daughter was looking at last year. And Jim and I > > went to see Tom DeSeno's kids in Scrooged last Christmas. So when, > > on this board, you get nasty and lie or manipulate the facts, it's > > personal and it's deeply, deeply hurtful. > > > > Leslie Kretzu > > 608 Cookman Avenue > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > wrote: > > > > > > Kevin are you intentionally missing the point? No one is saying > > they > > > don't want to give the West Side Community Center $100,000.00. > > > > > > But you can't give away $100,000.00 to a private company on a > > > motion, on a matter that isn't on the agenda. > > > > > > Please tell me you know that - you've run for office yourself. > > > > > > Jack - Kevin's post is a perfect example of why it was a cheap > > > trick. Because there are people out there like Kevin, they will > > > think that only Keady wanted to help the West Side because he > > rasied > > > the motion and the others didn't becuase they didn't support the > > > motion, when in fact they couldn't because it was procedurally > > wrong. > > > > > > Kevin proves the point more perfectly than I could say it. > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should > > not > > > be > > > > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these > > > matters. > > > > > > > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council > > > members > > > > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too. > > > > > > > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the > > > > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question > > you > > > > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision > > > > until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your > > > concrete > > > > opinion well known. > > > > > > > > Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token > > > amount. > > > > The West Side has need
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you need a new seeing eye dog > And you a reality check. Have it your way, it's all complete. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Pony and MArley
Ha. My dog loves the snow. That would be fun. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > My dog loves those piles of dirt. It's currently her favorite > > Hinge, I did notice that and thought of you. "Hinge Hill". I think they > plan on keeping that there through the winter, and charge $10 for all > day snowboarding and all you can eat Art's "natural" ices. > > Then I got into a dicussion on whehter or not the pony would be "moved" > or not. With the land worth $8-17m, based on what can be built there. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Here's a lighter side email about asbury's past: http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/mail/mail24.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
Debbie With regard to Jimmy Bruno's parents, I don't think anyone said anything against them, nor should they - be they dead or alive. I certainly did not and in fact, expressed my condolences about his mother's passing privately to him when I first learned of it. I think someone brought up that Jimmy's father was a legend here and it was done in a positive manner. I only responded that what he or his father have done gives him no special privileges above anyone else in this town. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
I noticed this character signed on as a new member less than a month ago and already he is "god" of the forum. It would be my modest proposal to send him down the road of "asbury steve" to his own forum. I for one have chosen to ignor people who will not truly identify themselves. "Get thee behind me, 'Mr. Potatoe Head.'" LOL KB --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dan..you are the most disrespctful person...jimmy bruno worked his ass > off to get where he is, and with a disability..guess what pal? he is > here to stay...not going anywhere...deputy mayor of asbury park, thats > right...i as a long time resident of this town am proud of the job he > has done...you are just a out of town prick that nobody really listens > to anyway...like i said before, you will be long gone out of asbury, > maybe sooner than later and we THE PEOPLE of asbury park will enjoy the > fruits of jimmy brunos hard work for years to come... > > see ya later danny boy... > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" wrote: > > > > > > Did he get his firemen job because of his > > > Mom and Dad's reputations? Did he get it on merit? Old boy > network? > > > What? I had to work for mine. Just asking. > > > > > > > Terry Weldon > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "kretzu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > First of all Mrs. Keady most people on this Board don't call this place home including his biggest supporter who says some off the wall things. Most things said on this Board are hearsay. But I don't see anyone running to ABC news with it like your husband did. Remember that's what started all of this talk. It seems like you left some things out too The Mayor said Jim doesn't know anyome on the WSCC Board not the Westside. Also you could blame the past Dir. for the problems at the WSCC. Theyt run it to the ground and then head out of town. As for me being Bruno you are close but no cigar. You must be talking to Dan. Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council meeting, > so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by the > Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside in > an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund. Following > that, the community could come forth with proposals for programming > or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which > proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this up to > the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor Sanders > argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and Nancy > Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at the > West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to > meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former > Executive Director, director of fundraising and others. > Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers. > > On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that the > amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom > DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim Bruno) > has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote a > personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear to have made > a difference. Criticizing an elected official's policies is good and > everyone has a right and duty to do that. But Tom has been lying > about the facts in order to turn public opinion against an elected > official in a place that he doesn't even call home. > > This shouldn't be the Rush Limbaugh show. Asbury Park is 1 square > mile and more or less, we all know each other. I know the colleges > that Jim Bruno's daughter was looking at last year. And Jim and I > went to see Tom DeSeno's kids in Scrooged last Christmas. So when, > on this board, you get nasty and lie or manipulate the facts, it's > personal and it's deeply, deeply hurtful. > > Leslie Kretzu > 608 Cookman Avenue > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > Kevin are you intentionally missing the point? No one is saying > they > > don't want to give the West Side Community Center $100,000.00. > > > > But you can't give away $100,000.00 to a private company on a > > motion, on a matter that isn't on the agenda. > > > > Please tell me you know that - you've run for office yourself. > > > > Jack - Kevin's post is a perfect example of why it was a cheap > > trick. Because there are people out there like Kevin, they will > > think that only Keady wanted to help the West Side because he > rasied > > the motion and the others didn't becuase they didn't support the > > motion, when in fact they couldn't because it was procedurally > wrong. > > > > Kevin proves the point more perfectly than I could say it. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" > > wrote: > > > > > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should > not > > be > > > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these > > matters. > > > > > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council > > members > > > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too. > > > > > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the > > > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question > you > > > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision > > > until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your > > concrete > > > opinion well known. > > > > > > Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token > > amount. > > > The West Side has needed proper funding for many years. > > > > > > Turn your own tables over for a minute. Having Keady chair, > > should > > > make the transaction more palatable, unless you do not trust > keady? > > > > > > I say this to Giordano in Long Branch all the time; "You have to > > > decide whether you want to be a councilman or a banker, whenever > > his > > > bank and his role as a councilman/development agent conflict. He > > has > > > yet to get the message, and remains in questionable status > between > > > his Bank and His elected office. > > > > > > Yo
[AsburyPark] Re: Pony and MArley
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My dog loves those piles of dirt. It's currently her favorite Hinge, I did notice that and thought of you. "Hinge Hill". I think they plan on keeping that there through the winter, and charge $10 for all day snowboarding and all you can eat Art's "natural" ices. Then I got into a dicussion on whehter or not the pony would be "moved" or not. With the land worth $8-17m, based on what can be built there. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
you need a new seeing eye dog --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > > > -- > > I think you are wrong on that Dan doesn't a Judge have to approve > it > > than the Council? > > Tell you what. I'll show I'm the bigger person. I hereby retract all > of my statements about Bruno including that he is a vicious little > prick. I am sure he earned every position he ever had. I never said > anything about him not devoting time to this City or his love for > it. I will go even further than that - I am convinced Jimmy Bruno > loves this City and wants to see it improve. I also admit that Bruno > has given a lot of his life for this city. > > That was never my isse. What I won't retract, and what is a fact, is > that the waterfront restoration has not taken place. It hasn't even > started. Bruno, Kevin and Loffredo have been unwilling or unable to > make Partners fulfill its obligations on the waterfront. I don't > claim any special knowledge of why that is so, I only know it is so. > I NEVER claimed to know or alleged corruption or anything > inappropriate. But Bruno, Sanders and Loffredo were elected (twice) > in a large part to get the waterfront restored. They still haven't > been able to do it after four years. That's a fact. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] UEZ Apologizes to Keady - Bruno's Next
Note the apology was for tone not content. Still no word on the official Blood count, exactly how the 200 number was created or the total gang count for the city. - Original Message From: dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:15:47 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] UEZ Apologizes to Keady - Bruno's Next UEZ chair apologizes to Asbury official Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/16/06 ASBURY PARK: Albert Giobbie, chairman of the city Urban Enterprise Zone Board, has apologized to City Councilman James Keady "for the unnecessarily harsh tone" of certain sections of a letter sent to Keady for making what they called "irresponsible" comments to the media after the Oct. 18 murder of Tylik Pugh. Giobbie had told Keady to resign and leave the city. Keady met with the board Nov. 8. "I certainly accepted their apology," Keady said. Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre
RE: [AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
  I agree. I joined this group less than 2 weeks ago and I have not read one post which encourages all of us to work together for the good of this city. Of course we all have different views and beliefs but the vicious and degrading remarks which are being made are not only cruel but embarrassing. I stood up at the council meeting and personally apologized to the Keady's for the humiliating letter the UEZ wrote because I think in his heart Jim Keady is doing what he thinks is best for the city .He has many people in town who look up to him and he has proven himself to be a hard working, caring individual.  On the other hand I think it is a disgrace that any of you are involving Jimmy Bruno's parents in your tirades. I lost my father this year on December 26 which was the saddest day of my life but I am proud of the legacy he left behind and I work close to 20 hours a day to follow his work ethics and be a success in life.  I have known Jimmy Bruno since he was a young boy and I also am proud to say I knew both of his parents and I know that they instilled strong work ethics in him. Jimmy also lost his mother this year and by the amount of people at her funeral you know she was a very special woman  who did so much for this community.  Jimmy has devoted most of his adult life to serving this city and I think he has carried on his parents legacy through hard work and dedication to Asbury Park. From: "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comTo: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.comSubject: [AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the factsDate: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:56:20 - I think that the anger and viciousness that JK's wife is talking about is destroying this message board.Before Tommy came on board, this was a fun place to visit, but since then it's been about one thing, and one thing only.It's got to stop.And another thing, getting your information from the Asbury Park Press is a big mistake.Please stop this smear campaign.You know what would be great, if people start talking about Asbury as a whole again, and stop focusing on the just one issue.And Tommy, I think you should leave, before you do more damage to your credibility.You still have your website and the TCN to spread your opinions. Stop poisoning this place.Please?--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, "kretzu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:>> Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council meeting, > so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by the > Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside in > an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund. Following > that, the community could come forth with proposals for programming > or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which > proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this up to > the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor Sanders > argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and Nancy > Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at the > West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to > meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former > Executive Director, director of fundraising and others. > Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers.> > On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that the > amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom > DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim Bruno) > has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote a > personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear to have made > a difference. Criticizing an elected official's policies is good and > everyone has a right and duty to do that. But Tom has been lying > about the facts in order to turn public opinion against an elected > official in a place that he doesn't even call home.> > This shouldn't be the Rush Limbaugh show. Asbury Park is 1 square > mile and more or less, we all know each other. I know the colleges > that Jim Bruno's daughter was looking at last year. And Jim and I > went to see Tom DeSeno's kids in Scrooged last Christmas. So when, > on this board, you get nasty and lie or manipulate the facts, it's > personal and it's deeply, deeply hurtful.> > Leslie Kretzu> 608 Cookman Avenue> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, "justifiedright" > > wrote:> >> > Kevin are you intentionally missing the point? No one is saying > they > > don't want to give the West Side Community Center $100,000.00.> > > > But you can't give away $100,000.00 to a private company on a > > motion, on a matter that isn't on the agenda.> > > > Please tell me you know that - you've run for office yourself.> > > > Jack - Kevin's post is a perfect example of why it was a cheap > > trick. Because there are people out there like Kevin, they will > > think that only Keady wanted to help the West Side because he > rasied > > the motion and the others didn't becu
[AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
Here Here --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Come on Allan. Tom could make a very positive impact on this > discussion if he chose to. He has the ability to bring a different > perspective than many others who "reside" here. On occassion I even > agree with his perspective - usually the few times he has chosen to > speak fact rather than distort it. > > The reality is he has chosen to villify people and their ideas, most > notably and recently Jim Keady, based on half truths and outright > distortions. The fact that I am defending JK, when I really > disagree with just about everything he does and think he is also a > divisive force, should be an illustration of just how ridiculously > nasty and dishonest Tommy has been through out all of this. There > is plenty of fact to discuss. To the point made below, becoming as > vile and mean-spiritied in a town of this size has no place. It is > as if Tommy believes that posting on this board is different than > saying things to someone's face. It isn't. > > Please let's get back to a healthy discussion of issues, both here > and in general. > > To Tommy - please stop the blatant distortions and make the good > points you have in a way that is both constructive and credible. > Many would listen but have stopped. > > To Jim - please stop the grandstanding and recommit yourself to > bringing together differing parts of this town to everyone's mutual > benefit. You are actually at a fundamental crossroads - to make a > difference for this town by stepping back and bringing people > together to meet in a place that works for everyone without leaning > to heavily toward anyone or to polarize and grandstand to build your > following at the expense in the end of those you claim to represent > and those you don't. The choice is yours alone. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson > wrote: > > > > I disagree that the Tom is to blame. One issue is when someone > does not share the same opinion as those who monopolize the board. > I have raised questions about the 200 Blood count, the plan for > obtaining tourism and items reported on Asbury radio. These three > examples have gone unanswered. Rather than people asking for the > questions they jump on things like the Casino is not rebuilt. Yes > we all want the buildings to sparkle but there are many issues. Tom > has supplied many answers and raised good questions. Placing blame > solely on him is incorrect. > > > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Hinge > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:56:20 AM > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts > > > > I think that the anger and viciousness that JK's wife is talking > about is destroying this > > message board. > > Before Tommy came on board, this was a fun place to visit, but > since then it's been about > > one thing, and one thing only. > > It's got to stop. > > And another thing, getting your information from the Asbury Park > Press is a big mistake. > > Please stop this smear campaign. > > You know what would be great, if people start talking about Asbury > as a whole again, and > > stop focusing on the just one issue. > > And Tommy, I think you should leave, before you do more damage to > your credibility. > > You still have your website and the TCN to spread your opinions. > Stop poisoning this > > place. > > Please? > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "kretzu" wrote: > > > > > > Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council > meeting, > > > so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by > the > > > Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside > in > > > an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund. > Following > > > that, the community could come forth with proposals for > programming > > > or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which > > > proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this > up to > > > the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor > Sanders > > > argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and > Nancy > > > Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at > the > > > West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to > > > meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former > > > Executive Director, director of fundraising and others. > > > Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers. > > > > > > On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that > the > > > amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom > > > DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim > Bruno) > > > has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote > a > > > personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear
[AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
Come on Allan. Tom could make a very positive impact on this discussion if he chose to. He has the ability to bring a different perspective than many others who "reside" here. On occassion I even agree with his perspective - usually the few times he has chosen to speak fact rather than distort it. The reality is he has chosen to villify people and their ideas, most notably and recently Jim Keady, based on half truths and outright distortions. The fact that I am defending JK, when I really disagree with just about everything he does and think he is also a divisive force, should be an illustration of just how ridiculously nasty and dishonest Tommy has been through out all of this. There is plenty of fact to discuss. To the point made below, becoming as vile and mean-spiritied in a town of this size has no place. It is as if Tommy believes that posting on this board is different than saying things to someone's face. It isn't. Please let's get back to a healthy discussion of issues, both here and in general. To Tommy - please stop the blatant distortions and make the good points you have in a way that is both constructive and credible. Many would listen but have stopped. To Jim - please stop the grandstanding and recommit yourself to bringing together differing parts of this town to everyone's mutual benefit. You are actually at a fundamental crossroads - to make a difference for this town by stepping back and bringing people together to meet in a place that works for everyone without leaning to heavily toward anyone or to polarize and grandstand to build your following at the expense in the end of those you claim to represent and those you don't. The choice is yours alone. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I disagree that the Tom is to blame. One issue is when someone does not share the same opinion as those who monopolize the board. I have raised questions about the 200 Blood count, the plan for obtaining tourism and items reported on Asbury radio. These three examples have gone unanswered. Rather than people asking for the questions they jump on things like the Casino is not rebuilt. Yes we all want the buildings to sparkle but there are many issues. Tom has supplied many answers and raised good questions. Placing blame solely on him is incorrect. > > > > - Original Message > From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:56:20 AM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts > > I think that the anger and viciousness that JK's wife is talking about is destroying this > message board. > Before Tommy came on board, this was a fun place to visit, but since then it's been about > one thing, and one thing only. > It's got to stop. > And another thing, getting your information from the Asbury Park Press is a big mistake. > Please stop this smear campaign. > You know what would be great, if people start talking about Asbury as a whole again, and > stop focusing on the just one issue. > And Tommy, I think you should leave, before you do more damage to your credibility. > You still have your website and the TCN to spread your opinions. Stop poisoning this > place. > Please? > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "kretzu" wrote: > > > > Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council meeting, > > so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by the > > Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside in > > an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund. Following > > that, the community could come forth with proposals for programming > > or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which > > proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this up to > > the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor Sanders > > argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and Nancy > > Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at the > > West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to > > meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former > > Executive Director, director of fundraising and others. > > Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers. > > > > On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that the > > amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom > > DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim Bruno) > > has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote a > > personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear to have made > > a difference. Criticizing an elected official's policies is good and > > everyone has a right and duty to do that. But Tom has been lying > > about the facts in order to turn public opinion against an elected > > official in a place that he doesn't
[AsburyPark] Re: Pony and MArley
My dog loves those piles of dirt. It's currently her favorite playground :) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Change of subject. My wife took me to see Marley at the Pony last > night. Good crowd of all types. We climbed over the dirt along ocean > ave. It's getting there. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Pony and MArley
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[AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
I'll agree with you partially, but he is definitely the catylyst for much of the negativity that has dominated this board. I don't think it's really going to be possible to find the true number of gang members in AP. Even giving away the source of such info might be risky, and it might expose somebody who is working undercover, or some other informant. I honestly don't think that focusing on that number really means anything. The bigger picture is the gangs, and violence and crime, which in my opinion is the #1 problem that our city faces. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I disagree that the Tom is to blame. One issue is when someone does not > share the same opinion as those who monopolize the board. I have raised questions about the 200 Blood count, the plan for obtaining tourism and items reported on Asbury radio. These three examples have gone unanswered. Rather than people asking for the questions they jump on things like the Casino is not rebuilt. Yes we all want the buildings to sparkle but there are many issues. Tom has supplied many answers and raised good questions. Placing blame solely on him is incorrect. > > > > - Original Message > From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:56:20 AM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts > > I think that the anger and viciousness that JK's wife is talking about is > destroying this > message board. > Before Tommy came on board, this was a fun place to visit, but since then > it's been about > one thing, and one thing only. > It's got to stop. > And another thing, getting your information from the Asbury Park Press is a > big mistake. > Please stop this smear campaign. > You know what would be great, if people start talking about Asbury as a whole > again, and > stop focusing on the just one issue. > And Tommy, I think you should leave, before you do more damage to your > credibility. > You still have your website and the TCN to spread your opinions. Stop > poisoning this > place. > Please? > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "kretzu" wrote: > > > > Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council meeting, > > so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by the > > Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside in > > an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund. Following > > that, the community could come forth with proposals for programming > > or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which > > proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this up to > > the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor Sanders > > argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and Nancy > > Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at the > > West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to > > meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former > > Executive Director, director of fundraising and others. > > Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers. > > > > On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that the > > amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom > > DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim Bruno) > > has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote a > > personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear to have made > > a difference. Criticizing an elected official's policies is good and > > everyone has a right and duty to do that. But Tom has been lying > > about the facts in order to turn public opinion against an elected > > official in a place that he doesn't even call home. > > > > This shouldn't be the Rush Limbaugh show. Asbury Park is 1 square > > mile and more or less, we all know each other. I know the colleges > > that Jim Bruno's daughter was looking at last year. And Jim and I > > went to see Tom DeSeno's kids in Scrooged last Christmas. So when, > > on this board, you get nasty and lie or manipulate the facts, it's > > personal and it's deeply, deeply hurtful. > > > > Leslie Kretzu > > 608 Cookman Avenue > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" > > wrote: > > > > > > Kevin are you intentionally missing the point? No one is saying > > they > > > don't want to give the West Side Community Center $100,000.00. > > > > > > But you can't give away $100,000.00 to a private company on a > > > motion, on a matter that isn't on the agenda. > > > > > > Please tell me you know that - you've run for office yourself. > > > > > > Jack - Kevin's post is a perfect example of why it was a cheap > > > trick. Because there are people out there like Kevin, they will > > > think that only Keady wanted to help the West Side because he > > rasied > > > the motion and the others didn't bec
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
I disagree that the Tom is to blame. One issue is when someone does not share the same opinion as those who monopolize the board. I have raised questions about the 200 Blood count, the plan for obtaining tourism and items reported on Asbury radio. These three examples have gone unanswered. Rather than people asking for the questions they jump on things like the Casino is not rebuilt. Yes we all want the buildings to sparkle but there are many issues. Tom has supplied many answers and raised good questions. Placing blame solely on him is incorrect. - Original Message From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:56:20 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts I think that the anger and viciousness that JK's wife is talking about is destroying this message board. Before Tommy came on board, this was a fun place to visit, but since then it's been about one thing, and one thing only. It's got to stop. And another thing, getting your information from the Asbury Park Press is a big mistake. Please stop this smear campaign. You know what would be great, if people start talking about Asbury as a whole again, and stop focusing on the just one issue. And Tommy, I think you should leave, before you do more damage to your credibility. You still have your website and the TCN to spread your opinions. Stop poisoning this place. Please? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "kretzu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote: > > Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council meeting, > so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by the > Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside in > an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund. Following > that, the community could come forth with proposals for programming > or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which > proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this up to > the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor Sanders > argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and Nancy > Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at the > West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to > meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former > Executive Director, director of fundraising and others. > Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers. > > On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that the > amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom > DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim Bruno) > has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote a > personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear to have made > a difference. Criticizing an elected official's policies is good and > everyone has a right and duty to do that. But Tom has been lying > about the facts in order to turn public opinion against an elected > official in a place that he doesn't even call home. > > This shouldn't be the Rush Limbaugh show. Asbury Park is 1 square > mile and more or less, we all know each other. I know the colleges > that Jim Bruno's daughter was looking at last year. And Jim and I > went to see Tom DeSeno's kids in Scrooged last Christmas. So when, > on this board, you get nasty and lie or manipulate the facts, it's > personal and it's deeply, deeply hurtful. > > Leslie Kretzu > 608 Cookman Avenue > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > Kevin are you intentionally missing the point? No one is saying > they > > don't want to give the West Side Community Center $100,000.00. > > > > But you can't give away $100,000.00 to a private company on a > > motion, on a matter that isn't on the agenda. > > > > Please tell me you know that - you've run for office yourself. > > > > Jack - Kevin's post is a perfect example of why it was a cheap > > trick. Because there are people out there like Kevin, they will > > think that only Keady wanted to help the West Side because he > rasied > > the motion and the others didn't becuase they didn't support the > > motion, when in fact they couldn't because it was procedurally > wrong. > > > > Kevin proves the point more perfectly than I could say it. > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Kevin Brown" > > wrote: > > > > > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should > not > > be > > > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these > > matters. > > > > > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council > > members > > > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too. > > > > > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the > > > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question > you > > > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision > > > unti
[AsburyPark] Hip Hip Horrah!
UEZ chair apologizes to Asbury official Posted by the _Asbury Park Press_ (http://www.app.com/) on 11/16/06 ASBURY PARK: Albert Giobbie, chairman of the city Urban Enterprise Zone Board, has apologized to City Councilman James Keady "for the unnecessarily harsh tone" of certain sections of a letter sent to Keady for making what they called "irresponsible" comments to the media after the Oct. 18 murder of Tylik Pugh. Giobbie had told Keady to resign and leave the city. Keady met with the board Nov. 8. "I certainly accepted their apology," Keady said.
[AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
I think that the anger and viciousness that JK's wife is talking about is destroying this message board. Before Tommy came on board, this was a fun place to visit, but since then it's been about one thing, and one thing only. It's got to stop. And another thing, getting your information from the Asbury Park Press is a big mistake. Please stop this smear campaign. You know what would be great, if people start talking about Asbury as a whole again, and stop focusing on the just one issue. And Tommy, I think you should leave, before you do more damage to your credibility. You still have your website and the TCN to spread your opinions. Stop poisoning this place. Please? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "kretzu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council meeting, > so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by the > Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside in > an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund. Following > that, the community could come forth with proposals for programming > or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which > proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this up to > the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor Sanders > argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and Nancy > Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at the > West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to > meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former > Executive Director, director of fundraising and others. > Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers. > > On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that the > amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom > DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim Bruno) > has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote a > personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear to have made > a difference. Criticizing an elected official's policies is good and > everyone has a right and duty to do that. But Tom has been lying > about the facts in order to turn public opinion against an elected > official in a place that he doesn't even call home. > > This shouldn't be the Rush Limbaugh show. Asbury Park is 1 square > mile and more or less, we all know each other. I know the colleges > that Jim Bruno's daughter was looking at last year. And Jim and I > went to see Tom DeSeno's kids in Scrooged last Christmas. So when, > on this board, you get nasty and lie or manipulate the facts, it's > personal and it's deeply, deeply hurtful. > > Leslie Kretzu > 608 Cookman Avenue > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > Kevin are you intentionally missing the point? No one is saying > they > > don't want to give the West Side Community Center $100,000.00. > > > > But you can't give away $100,000.00 to a private company on a > > motion, on a matter that isn't on the agenda. > > > > Please tell me you know that - you've run for office yourself. > > > > Jack - Kevin's post is a perfect example of why it was a cheap > > trick. Because there are people out there like Kevin, they will > > think that only Keady wanted to help the West Side because he > rasied > > the motion and the others didn't becuase they didn't support the > > motion, when in fact they couldn't because it was procedurally > wrong. > > > > Kevin proves the point more perfectly than I could say it. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" > > wrote: > > > > > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should > not > > be > > > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these > > matters. > > > > > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council > > members > > > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too. > > > > > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the > > > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question > you > > > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision > > > until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your > > concrete > > > opinion well known. > > > > > > Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token > > amount. > > > The West Side has needed proper funding for many years. > > > > > > Turn your own tables over for a minute. Having Keady chair, > > should > > > make the transaction more palatable, unless you do not trust > keady? > > > > > > I say this to Giordano in Long Branch all the time; "You have to > > > decide whether you want to be a councilman or a banker, whenever > > his > > > bank and his role as a councilman/development agent conflict. He > > has > > > yet to get the message, and remains in questionable status > between > > > his Bank
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > -- > I think you are wrong on that Dan doesn't a Judge have to approve it > than the Council? Tell you what. I'll show I'm the bigger person. I hereby retract all of my statements about Bruno including that he is a vicious little prick. I am sure he earned every position he ever had. I never said anything about him not devoting time to this City or his love for it. I will go even further than that - I am convinced Jimmy Bruno loves this City and wants to see it improve. I also admit that Bruno has given a lot of his life for this city. That was never my isse. What I won't retract, and what is a fact, is that the waterfront restoration has not taken place. It hasn't even started. Bruno, Kevin and Loffredo have been unwilling or unable to make Partners fulfill its obligations on the waterfront. I don't claim any special knowledge of why that is so, I only know it is so. I NEVER claimed to know or alleged corruption or anything inappropriate. But Bruno, Sanders and Loffredo were elected (twice) in a large part to get the waterfront restored. They still haven't been able to do it after four years. That's a fact. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dan..you are the most disrespctful person...jimmy bruno worked his ass > off to get where he is, and with a disability..guess what pal? he is > here to stay...not going anywhere...deputy mayor of asbury park, thats > right...i as a long time resident of this town am proud of the job he > has done...you are just a out of town prick that nobody really listens > to anyway At least we have something in common with each other. ...like i said before, you will be long gone out of asbury, > maybe sooner than later and we THE PEOPLE of asbury park will enjoy the > fruits of jimmy brunos hard work for years to come... > > see ya later danny boy... > I don't want to be remembered. I don't want anyone to know me. I am willing to have not only the restored Casino, CH and pavillions named after Bruno, I would be willing to call the place Brunoville Park. All I want is for Bruno and his buddies to make Partners restore the waterfront as promised. That's it, that's all. If you are as established here as long as you claim to be (whoever you are), you know damn well the Weldon connection. If you don't you've had your head up your ass for decades. In the end, who cares? I'll let Weldon go free. Just BUILD the f-ing waterfront as promised. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" wrote: > > > > > > Did he get his firemen job because of his > > > Mom and Dad's reputations? Did he get it on merit? Old boy > network? > > > What? I had to work for mine. Just asking. > > > > > > > Terry Weldon > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- I think you are wrong on that Dan doesn't a Judge have to approve it than the Council? - In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" wrote: > > > > firefighter and police tests not that easy, several parts, ie > physical, > > written, psyc. evaluaton etc, hopefully this answers the first > > legitimate question, and rebukes dans joke > > > > Who approved his payout? Terry Weldon. I didn't say he didn't pass any > tests. Connect the dots if you can. Terry Weldon. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council meeting, so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by the Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside in an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund. Following that, the community could come forth with proposals for programming or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this up to the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor Sanders argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and Nancy Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at the West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former Executive Director, director of fundraising and others. Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers. On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that the amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim Bruno) has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote a personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear to have made a difference. Criticizing an elected official's policies is good and everyone has a right and duty to do that. But Tom has been lying about the facts in order to turn public opinion against an elected official in a place that he doesn't even call home. This shouldn't be the Rush Limbaugh show. Asbury Park is 1 square mile and more or less, we all know each other. I know the colleges that Jim Bruno's daughter was looking at last year. And Jim and I went to see Tom DeSeno's kids in Scrooged last Christmas. So when, on this board, you get nasty and lie or manipulate the facts, it's personal and it's deeply, deeply hurtful. Leslie Kretzu 608 Cookman Avenue --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kevin are you intentionally missing the point? No one is saying they > don't want to give the West Side Community Center $100,000.00. > > But you can't give away $100,000.00 to a private company on a > motion, on a matter that isn't on the agenda. > > Please tell me you know that - you've run for office yourself. > > Jack - Kevin's post is a perfect example of why it was a cheap > trick. Because there are people out there like Kevin, they will > think that only Keady wanted to help the West Side because he rasied > the motion and the others didn't becuase they didn't support the > motion, when in fact they couldn't because it was procedurally wrong. > > Kevin proves the point more perfectly than I could say it. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" > wrote: > > > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should not > be > > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these > matters. > > > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council > members > > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too. > > > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the > > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question you > > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision > > until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your > concrete > > opinion well known. > > > > Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token > amount. > > The West Side has needed proper funding for many years. > > > > Turn your own tables over for a minute. Having Keady chair, > should > > make the transaction more palatable, unless you do not trust keady? > > > > I say this to Giordano in Long Branch all the time; "You have to > > decide whether you want to be a councilman or a banker, whenever > his > > bank and his role as a councilman/development agent conflict. He > has > > yet to get the message, and remains in questionable status between > > his Bank and His elected office. > > > > You on the other hand - can not dare represent a nuetral tone > between > > the 4 councilman in with the MOB and the one outside (Keady) when > you > > are being paid by the inside MOB! > > > > (My MOB reference is likened to a madding crowd and not the > sicilian > > black hand of corruption in local towns and governments.) > > > > These are just my thoughts, and you should take them beyond a > grain > > of salt and a dash of tobasco! > > > > The best way for harmony to come to the asbury park council is to > > recall one of the 4 and add another member like Keady. That will > > give you some protection from the status quo of the last decade. > > > > > > KB > > www.asburyparknj.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To
[AsburyPark] UEZ Apologizes to Keady - Bruno's Next
UEZ chair apologizes to Asbury official Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/16/06 ASBURY PARK: Albert Giobbie, chairman of the city Urban Enterprise Zone Board, has apologized to City Councilman James Keady "for the unnecessarily harsh tone" of certain sections of a letter sent to Keady for making what they called "irresponsible" comments to the media after the Oct. 18 murder of Tylik Pugh. Giobbie had told Keady to resign and leave the city. Keady met with the board Nov. 8. "I certainly accepted their apology," Keady said. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Market Street Mission!
Congrats to Paul Vail, all the hard efforts from others and to most of the Counsil members for having this issue reviewed again. If there was not an issue with the application from Market Street, chances are this would have passed and built. But these people listed above wanted better for Asbury and brought this matter forward. Without grandstanding, these people will make a lasting difference for Asbury - Original Message From: Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 10:52:05 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Stop the Market Street Mission! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" wrote: > > Yea, well, ask those lawyers if their kids risk walking past warrant > filled pedophiles on the way to school. > > The mission does not belong there. > > Based on this well thought out remark I should conclude that every one who needs economic assistance is a pedophile? If the location is the only problem, then come up with an alternative. KB Sponsored Link Online degrees - find the right program to advance your career. Www.nextag.com
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dan..you are the most disrespctful person...jimmy bruno worked his ass > off to get where he is, and with a disability..guess what pal? he is > here to stay...not going anywhere...deputy mayor of asbury park, thats > right...i as a long time resident of this town am proud of the job he > has done...you are just a out of town prick that nobody really listens > to anyway...like i said before, you will be long gone out of asbury, > maybe sooner than later and we THE PEOPLE of asbury park will enjoy the > fruits of jimmy brunos hard work for years to come... > > see ya later danny boy... > Terry Weldon Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > firefighter and police tests not that easy, several parts, ie physical, > written, psyc. evaluaton etc, hopefully this answers the first > legitimate question, and rebukes dans joke > Who approved his payout? Terry Weldon. I didn't say he didn't pass any tests. Connect the dots if you can. Terry Weldon. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Can someone tell me the current status of Terry Weldon? Going to prison or not?
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[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a teenager I was watching the riots from Bangs and Main. until the curfew kicked in. It was amazing so many cops,National Guards stationed at the High Schoo The Governer coming in by Helicoper landind at the High School Army Guards with M-16's. It was scary watching your town go to up i flames.. I'll tell you there was some tension afterwards but what I think healed this City was the killing of Police Officier Joe Monteparo by a black man on Springwood Ave. Joew was liked by all just as must on the Westide than east. It seemed like everyone came together. The Police Dept started the be a good Joe campaign it was runned by Dave Parreott, then Dominic Fazio after Daved retired. Then it fell by the wayside. I didn't say I was living on the Hill, did I? At the time of the > riots, I was living in Atlantic Beach, Florida, in NAVY Housing, with > my UNIFORMED NAVY, VIET-NAM VET, Husband! I saw the riots on TV! I > moved to NJ at the end of 1970. I moved to Neptune in 72', but not > before I took the obligatory, "go see the riot area", everyone had > told me that, "those people", did! The first story I heard, was that > it, (the riot), was over police brutality of a white cop, badly > beating a Black man! Sound familiar? Did not Rodney King > get "whupped" by your kind? Don't they still call them PIGS in LA? > The Panthers were everywhere. They didn't just come into the City. > They already lived in AP, according to some reliable sources; not the > compliant "Uncle Toms", either! So while you were either wiping your > nose, my husband had already been on the front lines, of an unpopular > war, while probably NONE of you EVER served, Uncle Sam! You may be > right about the Civil Service test, you spoke about and I have heard > Sterling stories about Mr. Bruno, really! I don't know the man, > personally, but whenever I'm in his company, he's cordial, friendly > and none of the monstrous things, I've heard. He's always respectful > and great to be around. It's really hard for me to fathom, some of > the stuff reported on him, honestly. Of course, I've never been the > victim of his venomous attitude to Mr. Keady, whom I know > personally. Can't believe some of the stuff attributed to Ed > Johnson, who I admire and respect also. Just what happens at those > Council Meetings? Whenever I do come, they are always calm? What, I > need to come more often? Nothing ever happens when I come to the > meetings. I met Joey D at the last one I attended and then, he was > gone! I was shown beautiful respect, from everyone online, here. > Hugged and kissed them like they were my relatives, blew kisses to > the council and wished them a good meeting. There were those who > made some heated statements, but no real outbursts. Even the Black > folks I know, were surprised to see me there. Sat right next to > AsburyJim and Kate. Everybody was civilized. Nothing personal > against Jim, Really! Can't we all just get along? > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" wrote: > > > > Did he get his firemen job because of his > > Mom and Dad's reputations? Did he get it on merit? Old boy network? > > What? I had to work for mine. Just asking. > > > > Terry Weldon > Oh Well! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
I didn't say I was living on the Hill, did I? At the time of the riots, I was living in Atlantic Beach, Florida, in NAVY Housing, with my UNIFORMED NAVY, VIET-NAM VET, Husband! I saw the riots on TV! I moved to NJ at the end of 1970. I moved to Neptune in 72', but not before I took the obligatory, "go see the riot area", everyone had told me that, "those people", did! The first story I heard, was that it, (the riot), was over police brutality of a white cop, badly beating a Black man! Sound familiar? Did not Rodney King get "whupped" by your kind? Don't they still call them PIGS in LA? The Panthers were everywhere. They didn't just come into the City. They already lived in AP, according to some reliable sources; not the compliant "Uncle Toms", either! So while you were either wiping your nose, my husband had already been on the front lines, of an unpopular war, while probably NONE of you EVER served, Uncle Sam! You may be right about the Civil Service test, you spoke about and I have heard Sterling stories about Mr. Bruno, really! I don't know the man, personally, but whenever I'm in his company, he's cordial, friendly and none of the monstrous things, I've heard. He's always respectful and great to be around. It's really hard for me to fathom, some of the stuff reported on him, honestly. Of course, I've never been the victim of his venomous attitude to Mr. Keady, whom I know personally. Can't believe some of the stuff attributed to Ed Johnson, who I admire and respect also. Just what happens at those Council Meetings? Whenever I do come, they are always calm? What, I need to come more often? Nothing ever happens when I come to the meetings. I met Joey D at the last one I attended and then, he was gone! I was shown beautiful respect, from everyone online, here. Hugged and kissed them like they were my relatives, blew kisses to the council and wished them a good meeting. There were those who made some heated statements, but no real outbursts. Even the Black folks I know, were surprised to see me there. Sat right next to AsburyJim and Kate. Everybody was civilized. Nothing personal against Jim, Really! Can't we all just get along? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rollmover
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
Didn't Bruno bring back the 4th. of July Parade too?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote:
> >
> > come on flag pole boy...you are the king complainer
> >~
>
> {1} Volunteer time to public works in painting.
>
> {2} Gave a Gold Star to a Mother that lost her Son in Iraq.
>
> {3} Got a Flag on Convention Hall.
>
> {4} Upset You!!
>
> {5} Got the Key to the City to a Veteran wounded in Iraq.
>
> {6} Also help with the March 11, 2005 event at the Wonder Bar.
>
> {7} Getting a Senior Center at the present time on Lake Ave.
>
> {8} Volunteer time with Veterans projects from Asbury Park.
>
>
> I like the name Flag boy it is better than what they call you aound
town.
>
> Okay your turn lets be fair.
>~Groundhog~
>
>Pretty Please!
> ~~~
> > --- In
> AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote:
> > >
> > > Good Morning Rollmover,
> > >
> > > Our Deputy Mayor has in the past & will in the future look out
for
> > A/P.I am sure he does care.My question for you is what have you
done
> > for the City of Asbury Park?~BESIDES BE A GROUNDHOG ON THIS
BOARD~
> > Really all you do is complain!
> > >
>
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[AsburyPark] Re: Rollmover
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> come on flag pole boy...you are the king complainer
>~
{1} Volunteer time to public works in painting.
{2} Gave a Gold Star to a Mother that lost her Son in Iraq.
{3} Got a Flag on Convention Hall.
{4} Upset You!!
{5} Got the Key to the City to a Veteran wounded in Iraq.
{6} Also help with the March 11, 2005 event at the Wonder Bar.
{7} Getting a Senior Center at the present time on Lake Ave.
{8} Volunteer time with Veterans projects from Asbury Park.
I like the name Flag boy it is better than what they call you aound town.
Okay your turn lets be fair.
~Groundhog~
Pretty Please!
~~~
> --- In
AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote:
> >
> > Good Morning Rollmover,
> >
> > Our Deputy Mayor has in the past & will in the future look out for
> A/P.I am sure he does care.My question for you is what have you done
> for the City of Asbury Park?~BESIDES BE A GROUNDHOG ON THIS BOARD~
> Really all you do is complain!
> >
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[AsburyPark] Re: Rollmover
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> come on flag pole boy...you are the king complainer
>~
{1} Volunteer time to public works in painting.
{2} Gave a Gold Star to a Mother that lost her Son in Iraq.
{3} Got a Flag on Convention Hall.
{4} Upset You!!
{5} Got the Key to the City to a Veteran wounded in Iraq.
{6} Also help with the March 11, 2005 event at the Wonder Bar.
{7} Getting a Senior Center at the present time on Lake Ave.
{8} Volunteer time with Veterans projects from Asbury Park.
I like the name Flag boy it is better than what they call you aound town.
Okay your turn lets be fair.
~Groundhog~
Pretty Please!
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> > Good Morning Rollmover,
> >
> > Our Deputy Mayor has in the past & will in the future look out for
> A/P.I am sure he does care.My question for you is what have you done
> for the City of Asbury Park?~BESIDES BE A GROUNDHOG ON THIS BOARD~
> Really all you do is complain!
> >
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[AsburyPark] Re: Rollmover
come on flag pole boy...you are the king complainer --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good Morning Rollmover, > > Our Deputy Mayor has in the past & will in the future look out for A/P.I am sure he does care.My question for you is what have you done for the City of Asbury Park?~BESIDES BE A GROUNDHOG ON THIS BOARD~ Really all you do is complain! > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Rollmover
Good Morning Rollmover, Our Deputy Mayor has in the past & will in the future look out for A/P.I am sure he does care.My question for you is what have you done for the City of Asbury Park?~BESIDES BE A GROUNDHOG ON THIS BOARD~ Really all you do is complain! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > God forbid if Tommy said that about Keady. dan..you are the most disrespctful person...jimmy bruno worked his ass > off to get where he is, and with a disability..guess what pal? he is > here to stay...not going anywhere...deputy mayor of asbury park, thats > right...i as a long time resident of this town am proud of the job he > has done...you are just a out of town prick that nobody really listens > to anyway...like i said before, you will be long gone out of asbury, > maybe sooner than later and we THE PEOPLE of asbury park will enjoy the > fruits of jimmy brunos hard work for years to come... > > see ya later danny boy... > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" wrote: > > > > > > Did he get his firemen job because of his > > > Mom and Dad's reputations? Did he get it on merit? Old boy > network? > > > What? I had to work for mine. Just asking. > > > > > > > Terry Weldon > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Rollmover
Good Morning Rollmover, Our Deputy Mayor has in the past & will in the future look out for A/P.I am sure he does care.My question for you is what have you done for the City of Asbury Park?~BESIDES BE A GROUNDHOG ON THIS BOARD~ Really all you do is complain! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
dan..you are the most disrespctful person...jimmy bruno worked his ass off to get where he is, and with a disability..guess what pal? he is here to stay...not going anywhere...deputy mayor of asbury park, thats right...i as a long time resident of this town am proud of the job he has done...you are just a out of town prick that nobody really listens to anyway...like i said before, you will be long gone out of asbury, maybe sooner than later and we THE PEOPLE of asbury park will enjoy the fruits of jimmy brunos hard work for years to come... see ya later danny boy... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" wrote: > > > > Did he get his firemen job because of his > > Mom and Dad's reputations? Did he get it on merit? Old boy network? > > What? I had to work for mine. Just asking. > > > > Terry Weldon > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Who on this board actually lives in AP. All should answer.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" wrote: > > > > Did he get his firemen job because of his > > Mom and Dad's reputations? Did he get it on merit? Old boy network? > > What? I had to work for mine. Just asking. > > > > Terry Weldon > cheap shot to say the least, firefighters, police, public maint. all civil service, must take and pass tests, to prevent political hacks, firefighter and police tests not that easy, several parts, ie physical, written, psyc. evaluaton etc, hopefully this answers the first legitimate question, and rebukes dans joke Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
