[AsburyPark] Neptune Shooting

2006-12-20 Thread Fred

What's the odds she's from Asbury??




Neptune motel site of homicide
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 12/20/06
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NEPTUNE — Neptune police and the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office 
are investigating the homicide of a woman at The Crystal Inn on Route 
35 this morning.

The motel is roped with police tape, with a least a dozen markers 
strewn throughout the length of the parking lot. A tow truck was seen 
arriving in the lot.

Monmouth County Prosecutor Luis A. Valentin said it was too early to 
release further information about the woman's death.

Keith Brown and Margaret Bonafide





 
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[AsburyPark] Partners' Community Meetings?

2006-12-20 Thread MarioAPNJ

I just got this Google alert which is dated "Feburary [sic] 7,  2005":

"ASBURY PARTNERS HOSTS  FIRST IN A SERIES OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO DISCUSS 
THE PROGRESS AND CHALLENGES  OF CITY'S REDEVELOPMENT" 
 
_Ocean Front  Asbury_ 
(http://oceanfrontasbury.com/news/challenges_city_020705.htm)  
 
Did such meetings continue on a  regular basis?  Where and when posted?
 
 
 
 
 
 


[AsburyPark] Re: Breaking news, possible murder in LB...same day as a murder in Neptune

2006-12-20 Thread rolemover
it was a lot worse just 2 years ago, it has cleaned up a bit, just 
not enough...not even close

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have called the police on occasion, and even though I live in an 
area that sees a fair 
> amount of patrol cars, it doesn't really deter much of what's going 
on here.
> And that's the problem.
> And as for the property I mentioned, sure, I can report it...but 
what I don't get is why 
> doesn't the city notice it, and act first?
> Same goes for the trash and litter?
> And why is this throwing trash, like food containers and liqour and 
beer bottles on 
> peoples lawns, only seem to afflict Asbury? I've lived in plenty of 
places, and i've never 
> seen it this bad. 
> To me, throwing your trash on somebody elses lawn shows a complete 
disregard for the 
> world you live in. 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u"  wrote:
> >
> > You might be able to get code enforcement to look into the 
property
> > you spoke of.  It sounds really terrible to find an individual
> > lounging on your steps of all places.  Maybe the police can get a
> > patrol car to surveille, your area.  The "traffic", should stop, 
after
> > seeing a police presence.  You are entitled to feel safe on and in
> > your property!  I feel sorry that you have to clean up after 
people. 
> > Where I live is becoming hazardous, also.  I love to walk, but 
I'll
> > drive to Ocean Grove and walk, before I walk here, now.  I used to
> > walk from Deal Lake to Sunset Lake, every day and would encounter 
a
> > man, I'll only call "50 cents", because that's what he'd ask me 
for,
> > every day.  This was on the corner of 8th Ave. and Webb Sts.  At 
first
> > he startled me.  Before I moved from the area, I gave him a 
dollar. 
> > When I walked, all I carried was 1 I.D. and my housekey, nothing 
else.
> > The area was 1 block off Kingsley Ave.  This was 14 years ago.  
Pretty
> > area, but scary to walk in.  I feel for you to have to put up with
> > this situation.  Please complain to the authorities and City 
Hall. 
> > What can you lose?
> > 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > What the hell is going on here in Monmouth County?
> > > More so, where are all these guns coming from?
> > > This is getting to be scary.
> > > Another thing that is beginning to bother me are the aggressive 
street
> > > people in AP who've been coming up to me every night when I 
walk my
> > > dog. They ask for money, and when I say no they get pissed off. 
I'm
> > > sick of it.
> > > The liquor bottles keep showing up on my lawn every day, and i'm
> > > getting sick and tired of cleaning up after people who don't 
give a
> > > damn about our community.
> > > A few doors away, a house that's undergone renovation is nearing
> > > completion, and not too long ago I had a conversation with the 
owners
> > > about the crime and mess in our neighborhood. They, like others 
are of
> > > the opinion that once the AP redevelopment is completed, the 
crime and
> > > mess will just go away.
> > > I tend to disagree with that, because people are not going to 
want to
> > > come live in a war zone, not come to live in a garbage dump and 
there
> > > are people in our community that just don't care about their 
city.
> > > Go down to the boardwalk, near the Stone Pony, and there's a 
little
> > > shack that used to be part of a mini golf course. The door on 
it has
> > > been wide open for awhile now? Why? Why is that building even 
there? 
> > > Even worse, even though it was recently painted, new graffiti 
has
> > > appeared on it.
> > > What does it say?
> > > "Crack Shack"
> > > Another thing I don't get is there seems to be no crack down in 
our
> > > city about littering and about property owners not maintaining 
there
> > > property in a proper manner.
> > > Case in point, the group of bungalows on the corner of Kingsley 
and
> > > 1st. 2 of the inhabited ones aren't so bad, but the third has 
some
> > > kind've "cat person" living inside. I've never seen this 
person, but
> > > take a walk by there sometime. Trash everywhere in the bushes 
and on
> > > the sidewalk. Empty cans of cat food all over the place. And a 
bunch
> > > of feral cats just wandering around. And in the empty lot next 
door,
> > > new empty 40oz beer and liquor bottles.
> > > I know i've mentioned much of this before, but nobody ever 
responds to
> > > my posts about it. If anything, somebody will tell me I should 
leave
> > > if I don't like it.
> > > I've said it before, and hopefully I won't have to say it hear 
again.
> > > I believe that part of our cities problem is the appalling 
state of
> > > some area's within it. The litter just makes our city look 
terrible.
> > > It is a proven fact that just the mere act of cleaning up and 
area
> > > lessens the reoccurence of litter, and crime. This was done 
with great
> > > success in NYC back in the 70's, where boarded up buildings had 
thei

[AsburyPark] Re: Breaking news, possible murder in LB...same day as a murder in Neptune

2006-12-20 Thread Hinge
I have called the police on occasion, and even though I live in an area that 
sees a fair 
amount of patrol cars, it doesn't really deter much of what's going on here.
And that's the problem.
And as for the property I mentioned, sure, I can report it...but what I don't 
get is why 
doesn't the city notice it, and act first?
Same goes for the trash and litter?
And why is this throwing trash, like food containers and liqour and beer 
bottles on 
peoples lawns, only seem to afflict Asbury? I've lived in plenty of places, and 
i've never 
seen it this bad. 
To me, throwing your trash on somebody elses lawn shows a complete disregard 
for the 
world you live in. 
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You might be able to get code enforcement to look into the property
> you spoke of.  It sounds really terrible to find an individual
> lounging on your steps of all places.  Maybe the police can get a
> patrol car to surveille, your area.  The "traffic", should stop, after
> seeing a police presence.  You are entitled to feel safe on and in
> your property!  I feel sorry that you have to clean up after people. 
> Where I live is becoming hazardous, also.  I love to walk, but I'll
> drive to Ocean Grove and walk, before I walk here, now.  I used to
> walk from Deal Lake to Sunset Lake, every day and would encounter a
> man, I'll only call "50 cents", because that's what he'd ask me for,
> every day.  This was on the corner of 8th Ave. and Webb Sts.  At first
> he startled me.  Before I moved from the area, I gave him a dollar. 
> When I walked, all I carried was 1 I.D. and my housekey, nothing else.
> The area was 1 block off Kingsley Ave.  This was 14 years ago.  Pretty
> area, but scary to walk in.  I feel for you to have to put up with
> this situation.  Please complain to the authorities and City Hall. 
> What can you lose?
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > What the hell is going on here in Monmouth County?
> > More so, where are all these guns coming from?
> > This is getting to be scary.
> > Another thing that is beginning to bother me are the aggressive street
> > people in AP who've been coming up to me every night when I walk my
> > dog. They ask for money, and when I say no they get pissed off. I'm
> > sick of it.
> > The liquor bottles keep showing up on my lawn every day, and i'm
> > getting sick and tired of cleaning up after people who don't give a
> > damn about our community.
> > A few doors away, a house that's undergone renovation is nearing
> > completion, and not too long ago I had a conversation with the owners
> > about the crime and mess in our neighborhood. They, like others are of
> > the opinion that once the AP redevelopment is completed, the crime and
> > mess will just go away.
> > I tend to disagree with that, because people are not going to want to
> > come live in a war zone, not come to live in a garbage dump and there
> > are people in our community that just don't care about their city.
> > Go down to the boardwalk, near the Stone Pony, and there's a little
> > shack that used to be part of a mini golf course. The door on it has
> > been wide open for awhile now? Why? Why is that building even there? 
> > Even worse, even though it was recently painted, new graffiti has
> > appeared on it.
> > What does it say?
> > "Crack Shack"
> > Another thing I don't get is there seems to be no crack down in our
> > city about littering and about property owners not maintaining there
> > property in a proper manner.
> > Case in point, the group of bungalows on the corner of Kingsley and
> > 1st. 2 of the inhabited ones aren't so bad, but the third has some
> > kind've "cat person" living inside. I've never seen this person, but
> > take a walk by there sometime. Trash everywhere in the bushes and on
> > the sidewalk. Empty cans of cat food all over the place. And a bunch
> > of feral cats just wandering around. And in the empty lot next door,
> > new empty 40oz beer and liquor bottles.
> > I know i've mentioned much of this before, but nobody ever responds to
> > my posts about it. If anything, somebody will tell me I should leave
> > if I don't like it.
> > I've said it before, and hopefully I won't have to say it hear again.
> > I believe that part of our cities problem is the appalling state of
> > some area's within it. The litter just makes our city look terrible.
> > It is a proven fact that just the mere act of cleaning up and area
> > lessens the reoccurence of litter, and crime. This was done with great
> > success in NYC back in the 70's, where boarded up buildings had their
> > window covering replaced with more attractive things, and large scale
> > community efforts were made to clean things up.
> > As far as I can tell, AP has no such community based clean up effort.
> > If there were, i'd volunteer. 
> > By boss came to visit me at my home the other day, and he offered me
> > money to move out of town, because

[AsburyPark] Re: Bribes et al

2006-12-20 Thread justifiedright
I still can't wrap my head around what Terry Weldon was doing.  
Between his AP job, his Fire Pension and his OT Mayor job, he had to 
be pulling in ligit close to $200K, plus health and a car.

Now if that's what you are making and you live in Locust, maybe you 
have to steal to keep up with the Jones'.  But in OT? Man he seemed 
on easy street to me.

Add to that the lifestyle thing - as AP City Manager and Ocean 
Mayor, the two towns he loved the most, he was absolutely the man, 
the local star, everyone was happy to see.  I'd love to have been in 
his shoes!

With all that going for him, legit, why why why in the world go 
crooked?  

Any psych majors out there to help me with this?





--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Schoor, 67, of Manalapan, is accused of paying bribes to former 
Ocean 
> Township Mayor Terrance D. Weldon and Stephen D. Kessler, former 
> chairman of the Township of Ocean Sewerage Authority, between 1998 
> and 2001.
> 
> U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie said Schoor gave out the 
bribes 
> while his firm, Schoor DePalma Engineers and Consultants, was 
seeking 
> to get and maintain large contracts with the sewerage authority.
> 
> The firm has been cooperating with the federal investigation and 
is 
> not accused of wrongdoing, Christie has said.
> 
> Larry Loigman, a Middletown attorney who lives in Ocean Township, 
> attended the Monday night council meeting and was instrumental in 
> persuading the governing body to hold off on appointing Schoor 
> DePalma to the new contract.
> 
> "The township is wrong entering into a continuing contract (with 
> Schoor DePalma) when there's this possibility," Loigman said.
> 
> What a tangled web we weave. Too many related parties in AP for 
> comfort.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Breaking news, possible murder in LB...same day as a murder in Neptune

2006-12-20 Thread 2fine4u
You might be able to get code enforcement to look into the property
you spoke of.  It sounds really terrible to find an individual
lounging on your steps of all places.  Maybe the police can get a
patrol car to surveille, your area.  The "traffic", should stop, after
seeing a police presence.  You are entitled to feel safe on and in
your property!  I feel sorry that you have to clean up after people. 
Where I live is becoming hazardous, also.  I love to walk, but I'll
drive to Ocean Grove and walk, before I walk here, now.  I used to
walk from Deal Lake to Sunset Lake, every day and would encounter a
man, I'll only call "50 cents", because that's what he'd ask me for,
every day.  This was on the corner of 8th Ave. and Webb Sts.  At first
he startled me.  Before I moved from the area, I gave him a dollar. 
When I walked, all I carried was 1 I.D. and my housekey, nothing else.
The area was 1 block off Kingsley Ave.  This was 14 years ago.  Pretty
area, but scary to walk in.  I feel for you to have to put up with
this situation.  Please complain to the authorities and City Hall. 
What can you lose?


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What the hell is going on here in Monmouth County?
> More so, where are all these guns coming from?
> This is getting to be scary.
> Another thing that is beginning to bother me are the aggressive street
> people in AP who've been coming up to me every night when I walk my
> dog. They ask for money, and when I say no they get pissed off. I'm
> sick of it.
> The liquor bottles keep showing up on my lawn every day, and i'm
> getting sick and tired of cleaning up after people who don't give a
> damn about our community.
> A few doors away, a house that's undergone renovation is nearing
> completion, and not too long ago I had a conversation with the owners
> about the crime and mess in our neighborhood. They, like others are of
> the opinion that once the AP redevelopment is completed, the crime and
> mess will just go away.
> I tend to disagree with that, because people are not going to want to
> come live in a war zone, not come to live in a garbage dump and there
> are people in our community that just don't care about their city.
> Go down to the boardwalk, near the Stone Pony, and there's a little
> shack that used to be part of a mini golf course. The door on it has
> been wide open for awhile now? Why? Why is that building even there? 
> Even worse, even though it was recently painted, new graffiti has
> appeared on it.
> What does it say?
> "Crack Shack"
> Another thing I don't get is there seems to be no crack down in our
> city about littering and about property owners not maintaining there
> property in a proper manner.
> Case in point, the group of bungalows on the corner of Kingsley and
> 1st. 2 of the inhabited ones aren't so bad, but the third has some
> kind've "cat person" living inside. I've never seen this person, but
> take a walk by there sometime. Trash everywhere in the bushes and on
> the sidewalk. Empty cans of cat food all over the place. And a bunch
> of feral cats just wandering around. And in the empty lot next door,
> new empty 40oz beer and liquor bottles.
> I know i've mentioned much of this before, but nobody ever responds to
> my posts about it. If anything, somebody will tell me I should leave
> if I don't like it.
> I've said it before, and hopefully I won't have to say it hear again.
> I believe that part of our cities problem is the appalling state of
> some area's within it. The litter just makes our city look terrible.
> It is a proven fact that just the mere act of cleaning up and area
> lessens the reoccurence of litter, and crime. This was done with great
> success in NYC back in the 70's, where boarded up buildings had their
> window covering replaced with more attractive things, and large scale
> community efforts were made to clean things up.
> As far as I can tell, AP has no such community based clean up effort.
> If there were, i'd volunteer. 
> By boss came to visit me at my home the other day, and he offered me
> money to move out of town, because he was dismayed by the condition of
> my neighborhood, and was disgusted by being approached by a prostitute
> when he was leaving.
> Sorry if i'm rambling. I made a huge leap of faith when I returned to
> the shore and chose to live in AP, and the things i've mentioned just
> plain bum me out. 
> Last night, when returning from my dog walk, I found a nasty looking
> street chick nearly passed out on my front steps, nodding off on
> whatever drug she was on. 
> This shit has got to stop.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bribes et al

2006-12-20 Thread 2fine4u
That's what I'm talking about!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Schoor, 67, of Manalapan, is accused of paying bribes to former Ocean 
> Township Mayor Terrance D. Weldon and Stephen D. Kessler, former 
> chairman of the Township of Ocean Sewerage Authority, between 1998 
> and 2001.
> 
> U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie said Schoor gave out the bribes 
> while his firm, Schoor DePalma Engineers and Consultants, was seeking 
> to get and maintain large contracts with the sewerage authority.
> 
> The firm has been cooperating with the federal investigation and is 
> not accused of wrongdoing, Christie has said.
> 
> Larry Loigman, a Middletown attorney who lives in Ocean Township, 
> attended the Monday night council meeting and was instrumental in 
> persuading the governing body to hold off on appointing Schoor 
> DePalma to the new contract.
> 
> "The township is wrong entering into a continuing contract (with 
> Schoor DePalma) when there's this possibility," Loigman said.
> 
> What a tangled web we weave. Too many related parties in AP for 
> comfort.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Breaking news, possible murder in LB...same day as a murder in Neptune

2006-12-20 Thread dapawprint
Hey guys and gals,  I am so sorry that you are having to deal with 
this.  

I have no solution, I just wanted to let you all know that I care.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Breaking news, possible murder in LB...same day as a murder in Neptune

2006-12-20 Thread rolemover
believe it or not just about all of it...i must admit their isn't a 
lot of pride in a majority of the home owners here in town...i have 
on many occasions took my blower and cleaned many streets that i dont 
even live on...

In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 'tis the season...
> which parts do you agree with?
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  wrote:
> >
> > holy shit!! i agree with hingy boy
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > What the hell is going on here in Monmouth County?
> > > More so, where are all these guns coming from?
> > > This is getting to be scary.
> > > Another thing that is beginning to bother me are the aggressive 
> > street
> > > people in AP who've been coming up to me every night when I 
walk my
> > > dog. They ask for money, and when I say no they get pissed off. 
I'm
> > > sick of it.
> > > The liquor bottles keep showing up on my lawn every day, and i'm
> > > getting sick and tired of cleaning up after people who don't 
give a
> > > damn about our community.
> > > A few doors away, a house that's undergone renovation is nearing
> > > completion, and not too long ago I had a conversation with the 
> > owners
> > > about the crime and mess in our neighborhood. They, like others 
are 
> > of
> > > the opinion that once the AP redevelopment is completed, the 
crime 
> > and
> > > mess will just go away.
> > > I tend to disagree with that, because people are not going to 
want 
> > to
> > > come live in a war zone, not come to live in a garbage dump and 
> > there
> > > are people in our community that just don't care about their 
city.
> > > Go down to the boardwalk, near the Stone Pony, and there's a 
little
> > > shack that used to be part of a mini golf course. The door on 
it has
> > > been wide open for awhile now? Why? Why is that building even 
> > there? 
> > > Even worse, even though it was recently painted, new graffiti 
has
> > > appeared on it.
> > > What does it say?
> > > "Crack Shack"
> > > Another thing I don't get is there seems to be no crack down in 
our
> > > city about littering and about property owners not maintaining 
there
> > > property in a proper manner.
> > > Case in point, the group of bungalows on the corner of Kingsley 
and
> > > 1st. 2 of the inhabited ones aren't so bad, but the third has 
some
> > > kind've "cat person" living inside. I've never seen this 
person, but
> > > take a walk by there sometime. Trash everywhere in the bushes 
and on
> > > the sidewalk. Empty cans of cat food all over the place. And a 
bunch
> > > of feral cats just wandering around. And in the empty lot next 
door,
> > > new empty 40oz beer and liquor bottles.
> > > I know i've mentioned much of this before, but nobody ever 
responds 
> > to
> > > my posts about it. If anything, somebody will tell me I should 
leave
> > > if I don't like it.
> > > I've said it before, and hopefully I won't have to say it hear 
> > again.
> > > I believe that part of our cities problem is the appalling 
state of
> > > some area's within it. The litter just makes our city look 
terrible.
> > > It is a proven fact that just the mere act of cleaning up and 
area
> > > lessens the reoccurence of litter, and crime. This was done 
with 
> > great
> > > success in NYC back in the 70's, where boarded up buildings had 
> > their
> > > window covering replaced with more attractive things, and large 
> > scale
> > > community efforts were made to clean things up.
> > > As far as I can tell, AP has no such community based clean up 
> > effort.
> > > If there were, i'd volunteer. 
> > > By boss came to visit me at my home the other day, and he 
offered me
> > > money to move out of town, because he was dismayed by the 
condition 
> > of
> > > my neighborhood, and was disgusted by being approached by a 
> > prostitute
> > > when he was leaving.
> > > Sorry if i'm rambling. I made a huge leap of faith when I 
returned 
> > to
> > > the shore and chose to live in AP, and the things i've 
mentioned 
> > just
> > > plain bum me out. 
> > > Last night, when returning from my dog walk, I found a nasty 
looking
> > > street chick nearly passed out on my front steps, nodding off on
> > > whatever drug she was on. 
> > > This shit has got to stop.
> > >
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Breaking news, possible murder in LB...same day as a murder in Neptune

2006-12-20 Thread Hinge
'tis the season...
which parts do you agree with?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> holy shit!! i agree with hingy boy
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > What the hell is going on here in Monmouth County?
> > More so, where are all these guns coming from?
> > This is getting to be scary.
> > Another thing that is beginning to bother me are the aggressive 
> street
> > people in AP who've been coming up to me every night when I walk my
> > dog. They ask for money, and when I say no they get pissed off. I'm
> > sick of it.
> > The liquor bottles keep showing up on my lawn every day, and i'm
> > getting sick and tired of cleaning up after people who don't give a
> > damn about our community.
> > A few doors away, a house that's undergone renovation is nearing
> > completion, and not too long ago I had a conversation with the 
> owners
> > about the crime and mess in our neighborhood. They, like others are 
> of
> > the opinion that once the AP redevelopment is completed, the crime 
> and
> > mess will just go away.
> > I tend to disagree with that, because people are not going to want 
> to
> > come live in a war zone, not come to live in a garbage dump and 
> there
> > are people in our community that just don't care about their city.
> > Go down to the boardwalk, near the Stone Pony, and there's a little
> > shack that used to be part of a mini golf course. The door on it has
> > been wide open for awhile now? Why? Why is that building even 
> there? 
> > Even worse, even though it was recently painted, new graffiti has
> > appeared on it.
> > What does it say?
> > "Crack Shack"
> > Another thing I don't get is there seems to be no crack down in our
> > city about littering and about property owners not maintaining there
> > property in a proper manner.
> > Case in point, the group of bungalows on the corner of Kingsley and
> > 1st. 2 of the inhabited ones aren't so bad, but the third has some
> > kind've "cat person" living inside. I've never seen this person, but
> > take a walk by there sometime. Trash everywhere in the bushes and on
> > the sidewalk. Empty cans of cat food all over the place. And a bunch
> > of feral cats just wandering around. And in the empty lot next door,
> > new empty 40oz beer and liquor bottles.
> > I know i've mentioned much of this before, but nobody ever responds 
> to
> > my posts about it. If anything, somebody will tell me I should leave
> > if I don't like it.
> > I've said it before, and hopefully I won't have to say it hear 
> again.
> > I believe that part of our cities problem is the appalling state of
> > some area's within it. The litter just makes our city look terrible.
> > It is a proven fact that just the mere act of cleaning up and area
> > lessens the reoccurence of litter, and crime. This was done with 
> great
> > success in NYC back in the 70's, where boarded up buildings had 
> their
> > window covering replaced with more attractive things, and large 
> scale
> > community efforts were made to clean things up.
> > As far as I can tell, AP has no such community based clean up 
> effort.
> > If there were, i'd volunteer. 
> > By boss came to visit me at my home the other day, and he offered me
> > money to move out of town, because he was dismayed by the condition 
> of
> > my neighborhood, and was disgusted by being approached by a 
> prostitute
> > when he was leaving.
> > Sorry if i'm rambling. I made a huge leap of faith when I returned 
> to
> > the shore and chose to live in AP, and the things i've mentioned 
> just
> > plain bum me out. 
> > Last night, when returning from my dog walk, I found a nasty looking
> > street chick nearly passed out on my front steps, nodding off on
> > whatever drug she was on. 
> > This shit has got to stop.
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Breaking news, possible murder in LB...same day as a murder in Neptune

2006-12-20 Thread rolemover
holy shit!! i agree with hingy boy

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What the hell is going on here in Monmouth County?
> More so, where are all these guns coming from?
> This is getting to be scary.
> Another thing that is beginning to bother me are the aggressive 
street
> people in AP who've been coming up to me every night when I walk my
> dog. They ask for money, and when I say no they get pissed off. I'm
> sick of it.
> The liquor bottles keep showing up on my lawn every day, and i'm
> getting sick and tired of cleaning up after people who don't give a
> damn about our community.
> A few doors away, a house that's undergone renovation is nearing
> completion, and not too long ago I had a conversation with the 
owners
> about the crime and mess in our neighborhood. They, like others are 
of
> the opinion that once the AP redevelopment is completed, the crime 
and
> mess will just go away.
> I tend to disagree with that, because people are not going to want 
to
> come live in a war zone, not come to live in a garbage dump and 
there
> are people in our community that just don't care about their city.
> Go down to the boardwalk, near the Stone Pony, and there's a little
> shack that used to be part of a mini golf course. The door on it has
> been wide open for awhile now? Why? Why is that building even 
there? 
> Even worse, even though it was recently painted, new graffiti has
> appeared on it.
> What does it say?
> "Crack Shack"
> Another thing I don't get is there seems to be no crack down in our
> city about littering and about property owners not maintaining there
> property in a proper manner.
> Case in point, the group of bungalows on the corner of Kingsley and
> 1st. 2 of the inhabited ones aren't so bad, but the third has some
> kind've "cat person" living inside. I've never seen this person, but
> take a walk by there sometime. Trash everywhere in the bushes and on
> the sidewalk. Empty cans of cat food all over the place. And a bunch
> of feral cats just wandering around. And in the empty lot next door,
> new empty 40oz beer and liquor bottles.
> I know i've mentioned much of this before, but nobody ever responds 
to
> my posts about it. If anything, somebody will tell me I should leave
> if I don't like it.
> I've said it before, and hopefully I won't have to say it hear 
again.
> I believe that part of our cities problem is the appalling state of
> some area's within it. The litter just makes our city look terrible.
> It is a proven fact that just the mere act of cleaning up and area
> lessens the reoccurence of litter, and crime. This was done with 
great
> success in NYC back in the 70's, where boarded up buildings had 
their
> window covering replaced with more attractive things, and large 
scale
> community efforts were made to clean things up.
> As far as I can tell, AP has no such community based clean up 
effort.
> If there were, i'd volunteer. 
> By boss came to visit me at my home the other day, and he offered me
> money to move out of town, because he was dismayed by the condition 
of
> my neighborhood, and was disgusted by being approached by a 
prostitute
> when he was leaving.
> Sorry if i'm rambling. I made a huge leap of faith when I returned 
to
> the shore and chose to live in AP, and the things i've mentioned 
just
> plain bum me out. 
> Last night, when returning from my dog walk, I found a nasty looking
> street chick nearly passed out on my front steps, nodding off on
> whatever drug she was on. 
> This shit has got to stop.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Bribes et al

2006-12-20 Thread dfsavgny
Schoor, 67, of Manalapan, is accused of paying bribes to former Ocean 
Township Mayor Terrance D. Weldon and Stephen D. Kessler, former 
chairman of the Township of Ocean Sewerage Authority, between 1998 
and 2001.

U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie said Schoor gave out the bribes 
while his firm, Schoor DePalma Engineers and Consultants, was seeking 
to get and maintain large contracts with the sewerage authority.

The firm has been cooperating with the federal investigation and is 
not accused of wrongdoing, Christie has said.

Larry Loigman, a Middletown attorney who lives in Ocean Township, 
attended the Monday night council meeting and was instrumental in 
persuading the governing body to hold off on appointing Schoor 
DePalma to the new contract.

"The township is wrong entering into a continuing contract (with 
Schoor DePalma) when there's this possibility," Loigman said.

What a tangled web we weave. Too many related parties in AP for 
comfort.



 
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[AsburyPark] Breaking news, possible murder in LB...same day as a murder in Neptune

2006-12-20 Thread Hinge
What the hell is going on here in Monmouth County?
More so, where are all these guns coming from?
This is getting to be scary.
Another thing that is beginning to bother me are the aggressive street
people in AP who've been coming up to me every night when I walk my
dog. They ask for money, and when I say no they get pissed off. I'm
sick of it.
The liquor bottles keep showing up on my lawn every day, and i'm
getting sick and tired of cleaning up after people who don't give a
damn about our community.
A few doors away, a house that's undergone renovation is nearing
completion, and not too long ago I had a conversation with the owners
about the crime and mess in our neighborhood. They, like others are of
the opinion that once the AP redevelopment is completed, the crime and
mess will just go away.
I tend to disagree with that, because people are not going to want to
come live in a war zone, not come to live in a garbage dump and there
are people in our community that just don't care about their city.
Go down to the boardwalk, near the Stone Pony, and there's a little
shack that used to be part of a mini golf course. The door on it has
been wide open for awhile now? Why? Why is that building even there? 
Even worse, even though it was recently painted, new graffiti has
appeared on it.
What does it say?
"Crack Shack"
Another thing I don't get is there seems to be no crack down in our
city about littering and about property owners not maintaining there
property in a proper manner.
Case in point, the group of bungalows on the corner of Kingsley and
1st. 2 of the inhabited ones aren't so bad, but the third has some
kind've "cat person" living inside. I've never seen this person, but
take a walk by there sometime. Trash everywhere in the bushes and on
the sidewalk. Empty cans of cat food all over the place. And a bunch
of feral cats just wandering around. And in the empty lot next door,
new empty 40oz beer and liquor bottles.
I know i've mentioned much of this before, but nobody ever responds to
my posts about it. If anything, somebody will tell me I should leave
if I don't like it.
I've said it before, and hopefully I won't have to say it hear again.
I believe that part of our cities problem is the appalling state of
some area's within it. The litter just makes our city look terrible.
It is a proven fact that just the mere act of cleaning up and area
lessens the reoccurence of litter, and crime. This was done with great
success in NYC back in the 70's, where boarded up buildings had their
window covering replaced with more attractive things, and large scale
community efforts were made to clean things up.
As far as I can tell, AP has no such community based clean up effort.
If there were, i'd volunteer. 
By boss came to visit me at my home the other day, and he offered me
money to move out of town, because he was dismayed by the condition of
my neighborhood, and was disgusted by being approached by a prostitute
when he was leaving.
Sorry if i'm rambling. I made a huge leap of faith when I returned to
the shore and chose to live in AP, and the things i've mentioned just
plain bum me out. 
Last night, when returning from my dog walk, I found a nasty looking
street chick nearly passed out on my front steps, nodding off on
whatever drug she was on. 
This shit has got to stop.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Spreading Holiday Cheer

2006-12-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "kretzu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 3.) Education - I am currently looking for sponsors for a little girl 
> who has applied to Sister's Academy on Springwood Avenue.  The 
> tuition is $600 for the year, for 4 years (grades 5-8).  If you are 
> interested in donating to this cause (pending her acceptance, 
> hopefully soon), please let me know.

Leslie, you know I have already committed to this?





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN-The Ghoulish Sounds of Asbury Park

2006-12-20 Thread Hinge
You know, I don't think anybody needs to be out of here, even though
I've called for certain people to be ignored in the past, and even
though i'm having second thoughts about being involved.
I think that we have a pretty interesting group of people here, in
fact, someday we should all get together and meet. It would be
interesting to see the faces behind the thoughts, althought i'm not
all that great to look at.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You're the one starting these threads about what YOU like and dislike,
> then you twist everything to justify what you posted!  Hey, I'm outta
> here, too!
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Jack, and thanks for noticing that I'm still trying to 
> > avoid all useless bickering here.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Tommy, I have to say that Sharon's comment is a low blow that you 
> > don't deserve.
> > > I've seen you become more fair and balanced on this MB in recent 
> > times, and it's the mean 
> > > spirited attacks that plague this board that make me want to give 
> > up my membership.
> > > Jack
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sharon you've crossed the line.  Am I reading that right below 
> > that 
> > > > you are accusing me of a crime?
> > > > 
> > > > You better issue a quick denial.  I don't need an apology, but a 
> > > > quick denial is in your best interest I promise you.
> > > > 
> > > > As an aside, not only have Partners never given me money, what 
> > in 
> > > > the world would the give me money for?  I don't represent them. 
> > > > 
> > > > I'll give you about a day.  I suggest you spend it on the phone 
> > with 
> > > > your cousin the judge getting his advice on what happends when 
> > you 
> > > > accuse someone of a crime they didn't commit.
> > > > 
> > > > A day Sharon.  One day.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u"  
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I'm crazy?  And as far as the Pony, I've only been inside 
> > a few
> > > > > times, but for those who love it and want it to STAY, fight 
> > with 
> > > > all
> > > > > your might!  The Partners, have all but dismantled, what's 
> > left of
> > > > > this once, fair City.  We've all argued and debated what makes 
> > a 
> > > > City
> > > > > what it is, and some are determined to LOSE what we once had.  
> > > > Look at
> > > > > Long Branch!  A once, bustling boardwalk is GONE!  I don't mind
> > > > > refurbishing a town from crumbling to functional, but Long 
> > Branch 
> > > > is
> > > > > no longer the place it was!  Sad, isn't it?  DeSeno, must be
> > > > > collecting some hefty royalties, (fees), for being on the 
> > Partners,
> > > > > side!  Just speculation and an opinion.  You know what they 
> > say 
> > > > about
> > > > > crooks...The ones in jail and the ones who haven't been 
> > caught, 
> > > > yet! 
> > > > > One, who has been caught is on the squeal on his handlers, who 
> > paid
> > > > > him royally!  Greed was good for him and his backers, still 
> > back 
> > > > him,
> > > > > in spite of his greed.  Food for thought!  I will not be in 
> > > > attendance
> > > > > at tonight's council meeting.  Arthritis kicking my butt, 
> > > > something,
> > > > > fierce!  Would love to meet all of you before year's end.  
> > You're a
> > > > > wonderful group!  Yours in the struggle,
> > > > > Sharon
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have any of your read Dan Jacobson's article about S.O.A.P 
> > in 
> > > > the most
> > > > > > recent issue of TCN? If not, read it and prepare to be 
> > disgusted.
> > > > > > In it, Dan dumps on Tilly, and calls people that wanted to 
> > save 
> > > > The
> > > > > > Palace "crazies"
> > > > > > He also goes on to say that "There's nothing wrong with 
> > honoring 
> > > > bad
> > > > > > music for the 1970's" and "The Stone Pony is Bullshit"
> > > > > > Now, i'm not going to quote everything in this ridiculous 
> > > > article. DJ
> > > > > > clearly doesn't understand what Asbury is all about.
> > > > > > First off, both the Palace and the music from the 70's are 
> > part 
> > > > of
> > > > > > what put Asbury on the map, so why would he dump on them? If 
> > it
> > > > > > weren't for people like Springsteen and Southside, Asbury 
> > would 
> > > > never
> > > > > > have had received international awareness in the first 
> > place. 
> > > > Once
> > > > > > upon a time, I was in Germany for an MTV awards show, and I 
> > was
> > > > > > wearing a Vaccaro Guitars tee shirt, which also mentions 
> > Asbury 
> > > > Park,
> > > > > > and I was approached by a bunch of people asking about 
> > Bruce, 
> > > > Bon Jovi
> > > > > > and the Stone Pony. How would a bunch of German people ever 
> > make 
> > > > the
> > > > > > association? 
>

[AsburyPark] Re: TCN-The Ghoulish Sounds of Asbury Park

2006-12-20 Thread 2fine4u
You're the one starting these threads about what YOU like and dislike,
then you twist everything to justify what you posted!  Hey, I'm outta
here, too!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thank you Jack, and thanks for noticing that I'm still trying to 
> avoid all useless bickering here.
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > Tommy, I have to say that Sharon's comment is a low blow that you 
> don't deserve.
> > I've seen you become more fair and balanced on this MB in recent 
> times, and it's the mean 
> > spirited attacks that plague this board that make me want to give 
> up my membership.
> > Jack
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > Sharon you've crossed the line.  Am I reading that right below 
> that 
> > > you are accusing me of a crime?
> > > 
> > > You better issue a quick denial.  I don't need an apology, but a 
> > > quick denial is in your best interest I promise you.
> > > 
> > > As an aside, not only have Partners never given me money, what 
> in 
> > > the world would the give me money for?  I don't represent them. 
> > > 
> > > I'll give you about a day.  I suggest you spend it on the phone 
> with 
> > > your cousin the judge getting his advice on what happends when 
> you 
> > > accuse someone of a crime they didn't commit.
> > > 
> > > A day Sharon.  One day.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u"  
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, I'm crazy?  And as far as the Pony, I've only been inside 
> a few
> > > > times, but for those who love it and want it to STAY, fight 
> with 
> > > all
> > > > your might!  The Partners, have all but dismantled, what's 
> left of
> > > > this once, fair City.  We've all argued and debated what makes 
> a 
> > > City
> > > > what it is, and some are determined to LOSE what we once had.  
> > > Look at
> > > > Long Branch!  A once, bustling boardwalk is GONE!  I don't mind
> > > > refurbishing a town from crumbling to functional, but Long 
> Branch 
> > > is
> > > > no longer the place it was!  Sad, isn't it?  DeSeno, must be
> > > > collecting some hefty royalties, (fees), for being on the 
> Partners,
> > > > side!  Just speculation and an opinion.  You know what they 
> say 
> > > about
> > > > crooks...The ones in jail and the ones who haven't been 
> caught, 
> > > yet! 
> > > > One, who has been caught is on the squeal on his handlers, who 
> paid
> > > > him royally!  Greed was good for him and his backers, still 
> back 
> > > him,
> > > > in spite of his greed.  Food for thought!  I will not be in 
> > > attendance
> > > > at tonight's council meeting.  Arthritis kicking my butt, 
> > > something,
> > > > fierce!  Would love to meet all of you before year's end.  
> You're a
> > > > wonderful group!  Yours in the struggle,
> > > > Sharon
> > > > 
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Have any of your read Dan Jacobson's article about S.O.A.P 
> in 
> > > the most
> > > > > recent issue of TCN? If not, read it and prepare to be 
> disgusted.
> > > > > In it, Dan dumps on Tilly, and calls people that wanted to 
> save 
> > > The
> > > > > Palace "crazies"
> > > > > He also goes on to say that "There's nothing wrong with 
> honoring 
> > > bad
> > > > > music for the 1970's" and "The Stone Pony is Bullshit"
> > > > > Now, i'm not going to quote everything in this ridiculous 
> > > article. DJ
> > > > > clearly doesn't understand what Asbury is all about.
> > > > > First off, both the Palace and the music from the 70's are 
> part 
> > > of
> > > > > what put Asbury on the map, so why would he dump on them? If 
> it
> > > > > weren't for people like Springsteen and Southside, Asbury 
> would 
> > > never
> > > > > have had received international awareness in the first 
> place. 
> > > Once
> > > > > upon a time, I was in Germany for an MTV awards show, and I 
> was
> > > > > wearing a Vaccaro Guitars tee shirt, which also mentions 
> Asbury 
> > > Park,
> > > > > and I was approached by a bunch of people asking about 
> Bruce, 
> > > Bon Jovi
> > > > > and the Stone Pony. How would a bunch of German people ever 
> make 
> > > the
> > > > > association? 
> > > > > I'll be honest, i'm not really a fan of the sound of AP, but 
> as a
> > > > > musician, I appreciate it, as I do most music.
> > > > > And to dump on the Stone Pony? What's the point? Many 
> amazing 
> > > shows
> > > > > have  taken place there. It's the only rock club I can think 
> of 
> > > that's
> > > > > been consistantly in business for something like 30 years. 
> And 
> > > to this
> > > > > day, they are bringing in the crowds. How could a-hole 
> Jacobson 
> > > dump
> > > > > on a successful business? The Stone Pony and other clubs in 
> our 
> > > city
> > > > > are pretty much the only things we have that continue to 
> bring 
> > > people
> > > > > from other towns to our city, year round.
> 

[AsburyPark] Re: TCN-The Ghoulish Sounds of Asbury Park

2006-12-20 Thread 2fine4u
If Tommy doesn't have me thrown in jail, for disagreeing with him and
making threats on imaginary charges!  I agree also.  I didn't want to
mention it, but the Haunted Mansion has a story of its' own!  My
daughter, was about 10, when she went through the Mansion with her
older brothers and his friends.  They were all athletes on the track
team in Neptune, in the late 70's.  She was a tom-boy, for one thing,
but she turned into a frightenend wimp, when the mechanical rats, ran
across her feet.  She jumped sky high on her brother's back and rode
his back for the rest of the ride!  Hilarious, was how they told the
story!  I was horrified when it burned down!  I also remember the
Super-Slide; one of the first on the Shore!  Used to watch my kids,
come down the thing!  Beautiful!  Sad isn't it, how what you knew,
becomes a faded memory?  If you don't have photos, to show people, how
would they ever know?  You sound like a really thoughtful and caring
person.  God Bless You!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sharon,
> I totally agree about Long Branch.
> I'm sure many people will disagree with me on this, but I find the
focus on retail and 
> housing at the former beachfront to be depressing.
> I hate that our society has morphed into being so money and retail
centric.
> Long Branch bores me. Red Bank bores me. At least when I lived up in
Bergen county, near 
> Hoboken I could find fun in just wandering around, and taking my dog
to the dog run in 
> Hoboken.
> Maybe i'm cheap and I don't like to spend money, but the truth is, I
don't need anymore 
> stuff. Stuff doesn't make me happy. Music, and nature and art make
me happy. My dog 
> makes me very happy.
> The Long Branch and Asbury boardwalks also used to be a fun place to
hang out. In fact, I 
> worked at the Haunted Mansion for one summer for a whopping $3.10 an
hour, and it was 
> one of the most enjoyable jobs I've ever had.
> I'd hate to be a kid in 2006. To me, it's all a big competition. You
need to have the coolest 
> cell phone, an iPod. A computer. Once you get to be old enough to
drive, you can't drive 
> an affordable used car, you have to have something cool just like
the other kids. And all 
> the connectivity that they have now...myspace, IM, text
messages...do more in my opinion 
> to isolate rather then connect. I also think that kids of today
probably have shorter 
> attention spans then people of my generation because of things like
that.
> I feel like all the fun is being taken out of our area, and replace
by reasons to spend 
> money.
> Jack
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u"  wrote:
> >
> > So, I'm crazy?  And as far as the Pony, I've only been inside a few
> > times, but for those who love it and want it to STAY, fight with all
> > your might!  The Partners, have all but dismantled, what's left of
> > this once, fair City.  We've all argued and debated what makes a City
> > what it is, and some are determined to LOSE what we once had.  Look at
> > Long Branch!  A once, bustling boardwalk is GONE!  I don't mind
> > refurbishing a town from crumbling to functional, but Long Branch is
> > no longer the place it was!  Sad, isn't it?  DeSeno, must be
> > collecting some hefty royalties, (fees), for being on the Partners,
> > side!  Just speculation and an opinion.  You know what they say about
> > crooks...The ones in jail and the ones who haven't been caught, yet! 
> > One, who has been caught is on the squeal on his handlers, who paid
> > him royally!  Greed was good for him and his backers, still back him,
> > in spite of his greed.  Food for thought!  I will not be in attendance
> > at tonight's council meeting.  Arthritis kicking my butt, something,
> > fierce!  Would love to meet all of you before year's end.  You're a
> > wonderful group!  Yours in the struggle,
> > Sharon
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Have any of your read Dan Jacobson's article about S.O.A.P in
the most
> > > recent issue of TCN? If not, read it and prepare to be disgusted.
> > > In it, Dan dumps on Tilly, and calls people that wanted to save The
> > > Palace "crazies"
> > > He also goes on to say that "There's nothing wrong with honoring bad
> > > music for the 1970's" and "The Stone Pony is Bullshit"
> > > Now, i'm not going to quote everything in this ridiculous
article. DJ
> > > clearly doesn't understand what Asbury is all about.
> > > First off, both the Palace and the music from the 70's are part of
> > > what put Asbury on the map, so why would he dump on them? If it
> > > weren't for people like Springsteen and Southside, Asbury would
never
> > > have had received international awareness in the first place. Once
> > > upon a time, I was in Germany for an MTV awards show, and I was
> > > wearing a Vaccaro Guitars tee shirt, which also mentions Asbury
Park,
> > > and I was approached by a bunch of people asking about Bruce,
Bon Jovi
> > > and the Stone Pony. How woul

[AsburyPark] Re: TCN-The Ghoulish Sounds of Asbury Park

2006-12-20 Thread justifiedright
Thank you Jack, and thanks for noticing that I'm still trying to 
avoid all useless bickering here.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tommy, I have to say that Sharon's comment is a low blow that you 
don't deserve.
> I've seen you become more fair and balanced on this MB in recent 
times, and it's the mean 
> spirited attacks that plague this board that make me want to give 
up my membership.
> Jack
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
 wrote:
> >
> > Sharon you've crossed the line.  Am I reading that right below 
that 
> > you are accusing me of a crime?
> > 
> > You better issue a quick denial.  I don't need an apology, but a 
> > quick denial is in your best interest I promise you.
> > 
> > As an aside, not only have Partners never given me money, what 
in 
> > the world would the give me money for?  I don't represent them. 
> > 
> > I'll give you about a day.  I suggest you spend it on the phone 
with 
> > your cousin the judge getting his advice on what happends when 
you 
> > accuse someone of a crime they didn't commit.
> > 
> > A day Sharon.  One day.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > So, I'm crazy?  And as far as the Pony, I've only been inside 
a few
> > > times, but for those who love it and want it to STAY, fight 
with 
> > all
> > > your might!  The Partners, have all but dismantled, what's 
left of
> > > this once, fair City.  We've all argued and debated what makes 
a 
> > City
> > > what it is, and some are determined to LOSE what we once had.  
> > Look at
> > > Long Branch!  A once, bustling boardwalk is GONE!  I don't mind
> > > refurbishing a town from crumbling to functional, but Long 
Branch 
> > is
> > > no longer the place it was!  Sad, isn't it?  DeSeno, must be
> > > collecting some hefty royalties, (fees), for being on the 
Partners,
> > > side!  Just speculation and an opinion.  You know what they 
say 
> > about
> > > crooks...The ones in jail and the ones who haven't been 
caught, 
> > yet! 
> > > One, who has been caught is on the squeal on his handlers, who 
paid
> > > him royally!  Greed was good for him and his backers, still 
back 
> > him,
> > > in spite of his greed.  Food for thought!  I will not be in 
> > attendance
> > > at tonight's council meeting.  Arthritis kicking my butt, 
> > something,
> > > fierce!  Would love to meet all of you before year's end.  
You're a
> > > wonderful group!  Yours in the struggle,
> > > Sharon
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Have any of your read Dan Jacobson's article about S.O.A.P 
in 
> > the most
> > > > recent issue of TCN? If not, read it and prepare to be 
disgusted.
> > > > In it, Dan dumps on Tilly, and calls people that wanted to 
save 
> > The
> > > > Palace "crazies"
> > > > He also goes on to say that "There's nothing wrong with 
honoring 
> > bad
> > > > music for the 1970's" and "The Stone Pony is Bullshit"
> > > > Now, i'm not going to quote everything in this ridiculous 
> > article. DJ
> > > > clearly doesn't understand what Asbury is all about.
> > > > First off, both the Palace and the music from the 70's are 
part 
> > of
> > > > what put Asbury on the map, so why would he dump on them? If 
it
> > > > weren't for people like Springsteen and Southside, Asbury 
would 
> > never
> > > > have had received international awareness in the first 
place. 
> > Once
> > > > upon a time, I was in Germany for an MTV awards show, and I 
was
> > > > wearing a Vaccaro Guitars tee shirt, which also mentions 
Asbury 
> > Park,
> > > > and I was approached by a bunch of people asking about 
Bruce, 
> > Bon Jovi
> > > > and the Stone Pony. How would a bunch of German people ever 
make 
> > the
> > > > association? 
> > > > I'll be honest, i'm not really a fan of the sound of AP, but 
as a
> > > > musician, I appreciate it, as I do most music.
> > > > And to dump on the Stone Pony? What's the point? Many 
amazing 
> > shows
> > > > have  taken place there. It's the only rock club I can think 
of 
> > that's
> > > > been consistantly in business for something like 30 years. 
And 
> > to this
> > > > day, they are bringing in the crowds. How could a-hole 
Jacobson 
> > dump
> > > > on a successful business? The Stone Pony and other clubs in 
our 
> > city
> > > > are pretty much the only things we have that continue to 
bring 
> > people
> > > > from other towns to our city, year round.
> > > > I wonder if Dan Jacobson actually believes the crap he 
writes? 
> > Or,
> > > > does he just do it to be sensational? Either way, Dan 
Jacobson 
> > proves
> > > > how little he knows about Asbury, and how little he really 
cares 
> > about
> > > > it as well.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN-The Ghoulish Sounds of Asbury Park

2006-12-20 Thread Hinge
Tommy, I have to say that Sharon's comment is a low blow that you don't deserve.
I've seen you become more fair and balanced on this MB in recent times, and 
it's the mean 
spirited attacks that plague this board that make me want to give up my 
membership.
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sharon you've crossed the line.  Am I reading that right below that 
> you are accusing me of a crime?
> 
> You better issue a quick denial.  I don't need an apology, but a 
> quick denial is in your best interest I promise you.
> 
> As an aside, not only have Partners never given me money, what in 
> the world would the give me money for?  I don't represent them. 
> 
> I'll give you about a day.  I suggest you spend it on the phone with 
> your cousin the judge getting his advice on what happends when you 
> accuse someone of a crime they didn't commit.
> 
> A day Sharon.  One day.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u"  wrote:
> >
> > So, I'm crazy?  And as far as the Pony, I've only been inside a few
> > times, but for those who love it and want it to STAY, fight with 
> all
> > your might!  The Partners, have all but dismantled, what's left of
> > this once, fair City.  We've all argued and debated what makes a 
> City
> > what it is, and some are determined to LOSE what we once had.  
> Look at
> > Long Branch!  A once, bustling boardwalk is GONE!  I don't mind
> > refurbishing a town from crumbling to functional, but Long Branch 
> is
> > no longer the place it was!  Sad, isn't it?  DeSeno, must be
> > collecting some hefty royalties, (fees), for being on the Partners,
> > side!  Just speculation and an opinion.  You know what they say 
> about
> > crooks...The ones in jail and the ones who haven't been caught, 
> yet! 
> > One, who has been caught is on the squeal on his handlers, who paid
> > him royally!  Greed was good for him and his backers, still back 
> him,
> > in spite of his greed.  Food for thought!  I will not be in 
> attendance
> > at tonight's council meeting.  Arthritis kicking my butt, 
> something,
> > fierce!  Would love to meet all of you before year's end.  You're a
> > wonderful group!  Yours in the struggle,
> > Sharon
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Have any of your read Dan Jacobson's article about S.O.A.P in 
> the most
> > > recent issue of TCN? If not, read it and prepare to be disgusted.
> > > In it, Dan dumps on Tilly, and calls people that wanted to save 
> The
> > > Palace "crazies"
> > > He also goes on to say that "There's nothing wrong with honoring 
> bad
> > > music for the 1970's" and "The Stone Pony is Bullshit"
> > > Now, i'm not going to quote everything in this ridiculous 
> article. DJ
> > > clearly doesn't understand what Asbury is all about.
> > > First off, both the Palace and the music from the 70's are part 
> of
> > > what put Asbury on the map, so why would he dump on them? If it
> > > weren't for people like Springsteen and Southside, Asbury would 
> never
> > > have had received international awareness in the first place. 
> Once
> > > upon a time, I was in Germany for an MTV awards show, and I was
> > > wearing a Vaccaro Guitars tee shirt, which also mentions Asbury 
> Park,
> > > and I was approached by a bunch of people asking about Bruce, 
> Bon Jovi
> > > and the Stone Pony. How would a bunch of German people ever make 
> the
> > > association? 
> > > I'll be honest, i'm not really a fan of the sound of AP, but as a
> > > musician, I appreciate it, as I do most music.
> > > And to dump on the Stone Pony? What's the point? Many amazing 
> shows
> > > have  taken place there. It's the only rock club I can think of 
> that's
> > > been consistantly in business for something like 30 years. And 
> to this
> > > day, they are bringing in the crowds. How could a-hole Jacobson 
> dump
> > > on a successful business? The Stone Pony and other clubs in our 
> city
> > > are pretty much the only things we have that continue to bring 
> people
> > > from other towns to our city, year round.
> > > I wonder if Dan Jacobson actually believes the crap he writes? 
> Or,
> > > does he just do it to be sensational? Either way, Dan Jacobson 
> proves
> > > how little he knows about Asbury, and how little he really cares 
> about
> > > it as well.
> > >
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN-The Ghoulish Sounds of Asbury Park

2006-12-20 Thread 2fine4u
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sharon you've crossed the line.  Am I reading that right below that 
> you are accusing me of a crime?
> 
Read again.  Didn't accuse anyone of anything!


DeSeno, must be
> collecting some hefty royalties, (fees), for being on the Partners,
> side!

 Just speculation and an opinion. 

You know what they say
about
> crooks...The ones in jail and the ones who haven't been caught,
yet!

> One, who has been caught is on the squeal on his handlers, who paid
> him royally! Greed was good for him. 

(Weldon), 

 and his backers, 

still back
him,

> in spite of his 

(Weldon's), greed. Food for thought!


Re-read again.  I said I was only speculating!  Was talking about
Weldon, from a article in last week's coaster, where the quote comes
from.  Read what you want into it!  I am not afraid!  You had better
be careful!



> You better issue a quick denial. 

 Didn't name you, so no denial to make!

I don't need an apology, 

None given.  Didn't name you.

but a 
> quick denial is in your best interest I promise you.
> 
> As an aside, not only have Partners never given me money, what in 
> the world would the give me money for?  I don't represent them. 
> 
> I'll give you about a day.  I suggest you spend it on the phone with 
> your cousin the judge getting his advice on what happends when you 
> accuse someone of a crime they didn't commit.
> 
> A day Sharon.  One day.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u"  wrote:
> >
> > So, I'm crazy?  And as far as the Pony, I've only been inside a few
> > times, but for those who love it and want it to STAY, fight with 
> all
> > your might!  The Partners, have all but dismantled, what's left of
> > this once, fair City.  We've all argued and debated what makes a 
> City
> > what it is, and some are determined to LOSE what we once had.  
> Look at
> > Long Branch!  A once, bustling boardwalk is GONE!  I don't mind
> > refurbishing a town from crumbling to functional, but Long Branch 
> is
> > no longer the place it was!  Sad, isn't it?  DeSeno, must be
> > collecting some hefty royalties, (fees), for being on the Partners,
> > side!  Just speculation and an opinion.  You know what they say 
> about
> > crooks...The ones in jail and the ones who haven't been caught, 
> yet! 
> > One, who has been caught is on the squeal on his handlers, who paid
> > him royally!  Greed was good for him and his backers, still back 
> him,
> > in spite of his greed.  Food for thought!  I will not be in 
> attendance
> > at tonight's council meeting.  Arthritis kicking my butt, 
> something,
> > fierce!  Would love to meet all of you before year's end.  You're a
> > wonderful group!  Yours in the struggle,
> > Sharon
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Have any of your read Dan Jacobson's article about S.O.A.P in 
> the most
> > > recent issue of TCN? If not, read it and prepare to be disgusted.
> > > In it, Dan dumps on Tilly, and calls people that wanted to save 
> The
> > > Palace "crazies"
> > > He also goes on to say that "There's nothing wrong with honoring 
> bad
> > > music for the 1970's" and "The Stone Pony is Bullshit"
> > > Now, i'm not going to quote everything in this ridiculous 
> article. DJ
> > > clearly doesn't understand what Asbury is all about.
> > > First off, both the Palace and the music from the 70's are part 
> of
> > > what put Asbury on the map, so why would he dump on them? If it
> > > weren't for people like Springsteen and Southside, Asbury would 
> never
> > > have had received international awareness in the first place. 
> Once
> > > upon a time, I was in Germany for an MTV awards show, and I was
> > > wearing a Vaccaro Guitars tee shirt, which also mentions Asbury 
> Park,
> > > and I was approached by a bunch of people asking about Bruce, 
> Bon Jovi
> > > and the Stone Pony. How would a bunch of German people ever make 
> the
> > > association? 
> > > I'll be honest, i'm not really a fan of the sound of AP, but as a
> > > musician, I appreciate it, as I do most music.
> > > And to dump on the Stone Pony? What's the point? Many amazing 
> shows
> > > have  taken place there. It's the only rock club I can think of 
> that's
> > > been consistantly in business for something like 30 years. And 
> to this
> > > day, they are bringing in the crowds. How could a-hole Jacobson 
> dump
> > > on a successful business? The Stone Pony and other clubs in our 
> city
> > > are pretty much the only things we have that continue to bring 
> people
> > > from other towns to our city, year round.
> > > I wonder if Dan Jacobson actually believes the crap he writes? 
> Or,
> > > does he just do it to be sensational? Either way, Dan Jacobson 
> proves
> > > how little he knows about Asbury, and how little he really cares 
> about
> > > it as well.
> > >
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN-The Ghoulish Sounds of Asbury Park

2006-12-20 Thread Hinge
Sharon,
I totally agree about Long Branch.
I'm sure many people will disagree with me on this, but I find the focus on 
retail and 
housing at the former beachfront to be depressing.
I hate that our society has morphed into being so money and retail centric.
Long Branch bores me. Red Bank bores me. At least when I lived up in Bergen 
county, near 
Hoboken I could find fun in just wandering around, and taking my dog to the dog 
run in 
Hoboken.
Maybe i'm cheap and I don't like to spend money, but the truth is, I don't need 
anymore 
stuff. Stuff doesn't make me happy. Music, and nature and art make me happy. My 
dog 
makes me very happy.
The Long Branch and Asbury boardwalks also used to be a fun place to hang out. 
In fact, I 
worked at the Haunted Mansion for one summer for a whopping $3.10 an hour, and 
it was 
one of the most enjoyable jobs I've ever had.
I'd hate to be a kid in 2006. To me, it's all a big competition. You need to 
have the coolest 
cell phone, an iPod. A computer. Once you get to be old enough to drive, you 
can't drive 
an affordable used car, you have to have something cool just like the other 
kids. And all 
the connectivity that they have now...myspace, IM, text messages...do more in 
my opinion 
to isolate rather then connect. I also think that kids of today probably have 
shorter 
attention spans then people of my generation because of things like that.
I feel like all the fun is being taken out of our area, and replace by reasons 
to spend 
money.
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So, I'm crazy?  And as far as the Pony, I've only been inside a few
> times, but for those who love it and want it to STAY, fight with all
> your might!  The Partners, have all but dismantled, what's left of
> this once, fair City.  We've all argued and debated what makes a City
> what it is, and some are determined to LOSE what we once had.  Look at
> Long Branch!  A once, bustling boardwalk is GONE!  I don't mind
> refurbishing a town from crumbling to functional, but Long Branch is
> no longer the place it was!  Sad, isn't it?  DeSeno, must be
> collecting some hefty royalties, (fees), for being on the Partners,
> side!  Just speculation and an opinion.  You know what they say about
> crooks...The ones in jail and the ones who haven't been caught, yet! 
> One, who has been caught is on the squeal on his handlers, who paid
> him royally!  Greed was good for him and his backers, still back him,
> in spite of his greed.  Food for thought!  I will not be in attendance
> at tonight's council meeting.  Arthritis kicking my butt, something,
> fierce!  Would love to meet all of you before year's end.  You're a
> wonderful group!  Yours in the struggle,
> Sharon
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > Have any of your read Dan Jacobson's article about S.O.A.P in the most
> > recent issue of TCN? If not, read it and prepare to be disgusted.
> > In it, Dan dumps on Tilly, and calls people that wanted to save The
> > Palace "crazies"
> > He also goes on to say that "There's nothing wrong with honoring bad
> > music for the 1970's" and "The Stone Pony is Bullshit"
> > Now, i'm not going to quote everything in this ridiculous article. DJ
> > clearly doesn't understand what Asbury is all about.
> > First off, both the Palace and the music from the 70's are part of
> > what put Asbury on the map, so why would he dump on them? If it
> > weren't for people like Springsteen and Southside, Asbury would never
> > have had received international awareness in the first place. Once
> > upon a time, I was in Germany for an MTV awards show, and I was
> > wearing a Vaccaro Guitars tee shirt, which also mentions Asbury Park,
> > and I was approached by a bunch of people asking about Bruce, Bon Jovi
> > and the Stone Pony. How would a bunch of German people ever make the
> > association? 
> > I'll be honest, i'm not really a fan of the sound of AP, but as a
> > musician, I appreciate it, as I do most music.
> > And to dump on the Stone Pony? What's the point? Many amazing shows
> > have  taken place there. It's the only rock club I can think of that's
> > been consistantly in business for something like 30 years. And to this
> > day, they are bringing in the crowds. How could a-hole Jacobson dump
> > on a successful business? The Stone Pony and other clubs in our city
> > are pretty much the only things we have that continue to bring people
> > from other towns to our city, year round.
> > I wonder if Dan Jacobson actually believes the crap he writes? Or,
> > does he just do it to be sensational? Either way, Dan Jacobson proves
> > how little he knows about Asbury, and how little he really cares about
> > it as well.
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: TCN-The Ghoulish Sounds of Asbury Park

2006-12-20 Thread justifiedright
Sharon you've crossed the line.  Am I reading that right below that 
you are accusing me of a crime?

You better issue a quick denial.  I don't need an apology, but a 
quick denial is in your best interest I promise you.

As an aside, not only have Partners never given me money, what in 
the world would the give me money for?  I don't represent them. 

I'll give you about a day.  I suggest you spend it on the phone with 
your cousin the judge getting his advice on what happends when you 
accuse someone of a crime they didn't commit.

A day Sharon.  One day.



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So, I'm crazy?  And as far as the Pony, I've only been inside a few
> times, but for those who love it and want it to STAY, fight with 
all
> your might!  The Partners, have all but dismantled, what's left of
> this once, fair City.  We've all argued and debated what makes a 
City
> what it is, and some are determined to LOSE what we once had.  
Look at
> Long Branch!  A once, bustling boardwalk is GONE!  I don't mind
> refurbishing a town from crumbling to functional, but Long Branch 
is
> no longer the place it was!  Sad, isn't it?  DeSeno, must be
> collecting some hefty royalties, (fees), for being on the Partners,
> side!  Just speculation and an opinion.  You know what they say 
about
> crooks...The ones in jail and the ones who haven't been caught, 
yet! 
> One, who has been caught is on the squeal on his handlers, who paid
> him royally!  Greed was good for him and his backers, still back 
him,
> in spite of his greed.  Food for thought!  I will not be in 
attendance
> at tonight's council meeting.  Arthritis kicking my butt, 
something,
> fierce!  Would love to meet all of you before year's end.  You're a
> wonderful group!  Yours in the struggle,
> Sharon
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > Have any of your read Dan Jacobson's article about S.O.A.P in 
the most
> > recent issue of TCN? If not, read it and prepare to be disgusted.
> > In it, Dan dumps on Tilly, and calls people that wanted to save 
The
> > Palace "crazies"
> > He also goes on to say that "There's nothing wrong with honoring 
bad
> > music for the 1970's" and "The Stone Pony is Bullshit"
> > Now, i'm not going to quote everything in this ridiculous 
article. DJ
> > clearly doesn't understand what Asbury is all about.
> > First off, both the Palace and the music from the 70's are part 
of
> > what put Asbury on the map, so why would he dump on them? If it
> > weren't for people like Springsteen and Southside, Asbury would 
never
> > have had received international awareness in the first place. 
Once
> > upon a time, I was in Germany for an MTV awards show, and I was
> > wearing a Vaccaro Guitars tee shirt, which also mentions Asbury 
Park,
> > and I was approached by a bunch of people asking about Bruce, 
Bon Jovi
> > and the Stone Pony. How would a bunch of German people ever make 
the
> > association? 
> > I'll be honest, i'm not really a fan of the sound of AP, but as a
> > musician, I appreciate it, as I do most music.
> > And to dump on the Stone Pony? What's the point? Many amazing 
shows
> > have  taken place there. It's the only rock club I can think of 
that's
> > been consistantly in business for something like 30 years. And 
to this
> > day, they are bringing in the crowds. How could a-hole Jacobson 
dump
> > on a successful business? The Stone Pony and other clubs in our 
city
> > are pretty much the only things we have that continue to bring 
people
> > from other towns to our city, year round.
> > I wonder if Dan Jacobson actually believes the crap he writes? 
Or,
> > does he just do it to be sensational? Either way, Dan Jacobson 
proves
> > how little he knows about Asbury, and how little he really cares 
about
> > it as well.
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: But The City won't call Christmas "Christmas"

2006-12-20 Thread 2fine4u
No, I didn't miss it, but you went on a rant about the City renaming
the Christmas Season, "Winter Holiday".  Hanukkah and Kwanzaa, occur
almost back to back and they have special meaning for those that
exclusively celebrate one or the another.  I celebrate all 3, because
before we were Christians, Jesus was a practicing Jew, himself. 
People of African descent have chosen, to have an alternative
celebration of their heritage, rather than have a commercialized
holiday and because I AM also a Roman Catholic, I celebrate Christmas
as the birth of Jesus, the Christ-child and beleived to be the
Messiah.  These are MY core beliefs and I celebrate the diversity of
ALL 3!  You have an opinion on everything, believe that YOU are
correct, then get bent out of shape, when someone gives THEIR opinion.
 You are NOT the be all and end all, on everything, but you never
cease to amaze me with your marginalization of anything, YOU think
anyone has done against YOUR beliefs!  I will continue to speak out,
whenever I think I should.  No, I didn't miss anything you said.  

PEACE!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sharon I guess you missed the part where I said I support the City's 
> celebration of Kwanzaa.  It was Mario who said he wasn't sure he 
> supports it. 
> 
> So the next time you rant against Italians, make sure you are 
> addressing the correct paesan.
> 
> My only objection is the City changing the name of Christmas to 
> something else.  I would object on behalf of Black people if they 
> changed the name of Kwanzaa, on behalf of Jews if they changed the 
> name of Hanukkah, and so on.
> 
> I understand Christians are the majority, but that is not a reason 
> to treat them poorly.
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u"  wrote:
> >
> > I got a headache reading this!  Wasn't going to dignify you with an
> > answer, but I notice when the subject or person is Italian, I see 
> your
> > pride.  Kwanzaa, takes the commercialization out, of ALL holidays
> > being celebrated and since I am a descendant of slaves, who had 
> their
> > history, language and culture, snatched away, by separating mothers
> > from children, spouses and family in general, a communal holiday 
> was
> > instituted, not invented, to give us a reason, to celebrate over 
> 450
> > years of our being BROUGHT, here.  You know the rest!   The 
> Browns, of
> > Rhode Island, built the slave ships, in a northern state, Aetna
> > insurance got paid, whether we made it here or not, The Southern
> > Plantations used us as FREE labor, in the cotton, sugar, tobacco 
> and
> > rice fields, from 1619 in Jamestown, until 1862, when Lincoln 
> signed
> > the Emancipation Proclamation, during the bloody Civil War, the 
> stock
> > market in New York, another slave state, flourished, the Black 
> Codes
> > were adopted making slavery, perpetual, the Capitol in Washington, 
> DC,
> > was built as was Mount Vernon, by slaves, as was Savannah, Atlanta,
> > New Orleans and any City in these United States were totally built 
> off
> > "free labor"!  Every year, John Conyers, (D)-MI, introduces a Bill
> > asking for reparations to the descendants of slaves, born in the
> > United States; that would be me and my offspring, since we are the
> > only surviving descendants, but the Bill never gets to the floor of
> > the House.  Randall Robinson, wrote a book, called, "The 
> Debt...What
> > America Owes Black People".  You should read it.  Italians didn't
> > emigrate to America, less than 200 years ago, during the Great
> > Migration of Irish, Italian, German, and the English, came.  The
> > French and Spanish had already established colonies in Quebec and
> > Louisiana.  The Spanish had colonies in the Carolinas and all of 
> the
> > Gulf Coast to California, until the French ceded Louisiana to 
> America
> > in 1804.  You want History?  I know History and the Story of 
> Blacks in
> > America.  I made it my business, to find out all I could, about 
> how we
> > got here and what our role was, in establishing this country more,
> > than any race, outside of The American Indians, who were already 
> here!
> >  As an Italian, you celebrate Columbus, but Columbus was the 
> greatest
> > exterminator of Native Tribes, bringing disease to the Americas. 
> > Where are the Indians of the East Coast?  DEAD, that's what!  The
> > Indians are why we bathe, daily!  They washed themselves, EVERY 
> Day! 
> > The National Geographic, ran a piece in their magazine about the
> > Indians of Chicago, a few years back and how they had lived here,
> > thousands of years before the white man came.  Bathing was a daily
> > ritual, as opposed to the British who washed about once a year, if
> > that!  Queen Elizabeth I, never washed herself, entirely, in her 
> whole
> > life!  I'll bet she was a ripe, tomato!  Tommy, true Christians 
> share
> > as Jesus did unselfishly.  You give Christians, a bad name!
> > 
> > --- In AsburyP

[AsburyPark] Re: TCN-The Ghoulish Sounds of Asbury Park

2006-12-20 Thread 2fine4u
So, I'm crazy?  And as far as the Pony, I've only been inside a few
times, but for those who love it and want it to STAY, fight with all
your might!  The Partners, have all but dismantled, what's left of
this once, fair City.  We've all argued and debated what makes a City
what it is, and some are determined to LOSE what we once had.  Look at
Long Branch!  A once, bustling boardwalk is GONE!  I don't mind
refurbishing a town from crumbling to functional, but Long Branch is
no longer the place it was!  Sad, isn't it?  DeSeno, must be
collecting some hefty royalties, (fees), for being on the Partners,
side!  Just speculation and an opinion.  You know what they say about
crooks...The ones in jail and the ones who haven't been caught, yet! 
One, who has been caught is on the squeal on his handlers, who paid
him royally!  Greed was good for him and his backers, still back him,
in spite of his greed.  Food for thought!  I will not be in attendance
at tonight's council meeting.  Arthritis kicking my butt, something,
fierce!  Would love to meet all of you before year's end.  You're a
wonderful group!  Yours in the struggle,
Sharon

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Have any of your read Dan Jacobson's article about S.O.A.P in the most
> recent issue of TCN? If not, read it and prepare to be disgusted.
> In it, Dan dumps on Tilly, and calls people that wanted to save The
> Palace "crazies"
> He also goes on to say that "There's nothing wrong with honoring bad
> music for the 1970's" and "The Stone Pony is Bullshit"
> Now, i'm not going to quote everything in this ridiculous article. DJ
> clearly doesn't understand what Asbury is all about.
> First off, both the Palace and the music from the 70's are part of
> what put Asbury on the map, so why would he dump on them? If it
> weren't for people like Springsteen and Southside, Asbury would never
> have had received international awareness in the first place. Once
> upon a time, I was in Germany for an MTV awards show, and I was
> wearing a Vaccaro Guitars tee shirt, which also mentions Asbury Park,
> and I was approached by a bunch of people asking about Bruce, Bon Jovi
> and the Stone Pony. How would a bunch of German people ever make the
> association? 
> I'll be honest, i'm not really a fan of the sound of AP, but as a
> musician, I appreciate it, as I do most music.
> And to dump on the Stone Pony? What's the point? Many amazing shows
> have  taken place there. It's the only rock club I can think of that's
> been consistantly in business for something like 30 years. And to this
> day, they are bringing in the crowds. How could a-hole Jacobson dump
> on a successful business? The Stone Pony and other clubs in our city
> are pretty much the only things we have that continue to bring people
> from other towns to our city, year round.
> I wonder if Dan Jacobson actually believes the crap he writes? Or,
> does he just do it to be sensational? Either way, Dan Jacobson proves
> how little he knows about Asbury, and how little he really cares about
> it as well.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Person of the Year

2006-12-20 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
No matter who wins it next year they will  win it  back to back. 





Also a way of making the absurd, extraordinary!  We're ALL a part of
> it, in our own special way!  Thanks, for the enlightenment!
> Sharon
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
> >
> > Excerpts from  _TIME.com  Print Page: TIME Magazine -- Person of 
the
> Year: 
> > You_
> 
(http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1569514,00.html)  
> >  
> >  
> > Wednesday, Dec. 13, 2006
> > 
> > Person of the Year: You
> >  
> > It's a story about community and collaboration on a scale never 
seen
>  before. 
> > It's about the cosmic compendium of knowledge Wikipedia  and the 
> > million-channel people's network YouTube and the online 
metropolis 
> MySpace. It's about 
> > the many wresting power from the few and helping one another  for
> nothing and 
> > how that will not only change the world, but also change the way 
> the world 
> > changes. 
> > The tool that makes this possible is the World Wide  Web….
> >  
> > It's a tool for bringing together the small contributions of
> millions of  peop
> > le and making them matter….
> >  
> > Who are these people? Seriously, who actually sits down after a 
long
> day at  
> > work and says, I'm not going to watch Lost tonight. I'm going to
> turn on my  
> > computer and make a movie starring my pet iguana? I'm going to 
mash
> up 50 
> > Cent's  vocals with Queen's instrumentals? I'm going to blog about
> my state of mind 
> > or  the state of the nation or the steak-frites at the new bistro
> down the 
> > street?  Who has that time and that energy and that passion?….
> >  
> > The answer is, you do. And for seizing the reins of the global
> media, for  
> > founding and framing the new digital democracy, for working for
> nothing and  
> > beating the pros at their own game, TIME's Person of the Year for
> 2006 is  you….
> >  
> > Sure, it's a mistake to romanticize all this any more than is 
strictly  
> > necessary. Web 2.0 harnesses the stupidity of crowds as well as 
its
> wisdom. Some  
> > of the comments on YouTube make you weep for the future of 
humanity
> just for 
> > the  spelling alone, never mind the obscenity and the naked 
hatred. 
> > 
> > But that's what makes all this interesting.
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Spreading Holiday Cheer

2006-12-20 Thread kretzu
I recently sent out the e-mail below, asking people to give donations 
to several poor families that I am working with at Holy Spirit 
Church.  I am resending this because we have not met all of the needs 
and I am hoping that there might be some people reading this who 
would like to make a donation.  We are only a few days away from 
Christmas and I am hoping you can help me to help these families have 
a great Christmas morning.

Thank you for your consideration, 
Leslie Kretzu
Cookman Ave.

_


Hello everyone - 

For those interested in making Christmas donations to poor families:  
I have been working with families at Holy Spirit Church over the past 
year, and have become aware of many families that are in a 
financially dire situation.  Holy Spirit is working with parishioners 
and others to gather toys for the children.  If you are interested in 
participating in this toy drive, please call the Rectory at 
732.775.0030.

I'm writing not for the toy drive, but instead for donations for the 
most basic needs of these families. If you are interested in getting 
involved with these families, there are countless options -  from 
making anonymous donations of any amount (see below) to meeting the 
children and their parents to deliver the donations yourself.  The 
donation would go through Holy Spirit Church (a nonprofit, in order 
to make the donation tax-deductible for you) and of course, 100% of 
your donation would go directly to the recipients. Again, if you 
wanted to meet with them and deliver the donation yourself, I'd love 
to facilitate that too.

Donations that these families could use:  

1.) Food - This is the most important item.  Gift cards/ gift 
certificates to Foodtown, Wegmans or another grocery store nearby for 
any amount is an excellent gift.  You can also redeem your Foodtown 
points for a gift card, which wouldn't cost you anything.

2.) Clothing - Most of the children wear second hand clothes or old 
clothing of varying conditions.  I have seen several children wear 
summer clothing in the winter.  Just this weekend on a very cold day, 
one little girl was wearing flipflops.  While second hand clothing is 
fine, it would be so very nice for these children to be able to go to 
the mall and pick out something special that they like, which has not 
been worn in by someone else.  One scenario could be a shopping trip 
with the child(ren) and parent or a gift certificate to a store in 
the Monmouth Mall.  

3.) Education - I am currently looking for sponsors for a little girl 
who has applied to Sister's Academy on Springwood Avenue.  The 
tuition is $600 for the year, for 4 years (grades 5-8).  If you are 
interested in donating to this cause (pending her acceptance, 
hopefully soon), please let me know.

4.) Toiletries - Soap, toothpaste, shampoo/conditioner, razors, 
shaving cream, laundry detergent, and dish soap are all needed items 
(Costco sells these in bulk, which would be a great way to maximize 
your donation dollars or gift cards to RiteAid would be greatly 
appreciated.)

5.) Health care - a gift certificate to RiteAid will go a long way 
for over-the-counter medicines.

 
My ultimate goal here is to bring together people who want to make 
donations with Asbury residents who need their help.  If you would 
like to meet the family personally, we can set up a meeting place at 
either Holy Spirit Church (2nd Ave in Asbury), my home or one of the 
cafes / restaurants in Asbury (think sharing a cup of hot chocolate 
and talking for a half hour or so). If you would simply like to make 
an anonymous donation, please contact me (information below) or Holy 
Spirit Church (732.775.0030).

I'd like to include the financial situation for three of our Asbury 
Park families that I know well:

One family of 5 are political refugees from Haiti and are currently 
living in a home provided by the Church which is slated for 
redevelopment, at which point they will need an apartment, which they 
currently cannot afford.  The mother, 42 years old, was diagnosed 
with colon cancer during the first week of November, and is 
struggling to make ends meet.  Anything you could provide would be 
helpful.

Another family of 6 has moved three times in the past several years 
because the house they rented was sold.  The mother, 37 years old, 
works in Asbury Park cleaning offices.  She doesn't have a car and 
walks everywhere (given the lack of public transportation in Asbury), 
and she is literally exhausted every time I see her.  She has to pay 
for a cab in order to do grocery shopping, which adds up.  She could 
use any support that you are willing to give.  If you are looking for 
a more substantial tax write-off, she needs a used, reliable car.  I 
hope you don't think I'm asking too much - I just want to put all 
options on the table for you to then decide your own level of 
potential commitment.

One last family shares an apartment with anothe

[AsburyPark] Re: Person of the Year

2006-12-20 Thread 2fine4u
Also a way of making the absurd, extraordinary!  We're ALL a part of
it, in our own special way!  Thanks, for the enlightenment!
Sharon

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Excerpts from  _TIME.com  Print Page: TIME Magazine -- Person of the
Year: 
> You_
(http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,1569514,00.html)  
>  
>  
> Wednesday, Dec. 13, 2006
> 
> Person of the Year: You
>  
> It's a story about community and collaboration on a scale never seen
 before. 
> It's about the cosmic compendium of knowledge Wikipedia  and the 
> million-channel people's network YouTube and the online metropolis 
MySpace. It's about 
> the many wresting power from the few and helping one another  for
nothing and 
> how that will not only change the world, but also change the way 
the world 
> changes. 
> The tool that makes this possible is the World Wide  Web….
>  
> It's a tool for bringing together the small contributions of
millions of  peop
> le and making them matter….
>  
> Who are these people? Seriously, who actually sits down after a long
day at  
> work and says, I'm not going to watch Lost tonight. I'm going to
turn on my  
> computer and make a movie starring my pet iguana? I'm going to mash
up 50 
> Cent's  vocals with Queen's instrumentals? I'm going to blog about
my state of mind 
> or  the state of the nation or the steak-frites at the new bistro
down the 
> street?  Who has that time and that energy and that passion?….
>  
> The answer is, you do. And for seizing the reins of the global
media, for  
> founding and framing the new digital democracy, for working for
nothing and  
> beating the pros at their own game, TIME's Person of the Year for
2006 is  you….
>  
> Sure, it's a mistake to romanticize all this any more than is strictly  
> necessary. Web 2.0 harnesses the stupidity of crowds as well as its
wisdom. Some  
> of the comments on YouTube make you weep for the future of humanity
just for 
> the  spelling alone, never mind the obscenity and the naked hatred. 
> 
> But that's what makes all this interesting.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Asbury Park City Council Meetings Tonight - Agendas

2006-12-20 Thread Jim Keady
Dear Constituents:

I am writing to inform you that the Asbury Park City Council will be meeting
tonight, Wednesday, December 20, 2006.  The Executive Session begins at 4pm,
however this is not open to the public.  The Workshop Session begins at 6pm
and the Regular Meeting begins at 7pm, these are both open to the public.  

I have included tonight's meeting agendas below and I encourage you to
attend.  I have also posted this information at
www.keadyreport.blogspot.com. 

I hope this finds you well.

Peace, 

James W. Keady, Councilman
City of Asbury Park, NJ 

ASBURY PARK CITY COUNCIL 
EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETING AGENDA
DECEMBER 20, 2006 - 4PM 
CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC

I.  Contract Negotiations
A. State Parking Deck - Mr. Hastie

B. WRA Subcommittee Report - Mr. Sammet
1. Plan Amendment 
2. Dispute Resolution Agreement Update
3. Madison Marquette 

C. Odor Control Update

II. Litigation
A. Teicher Update - Mr. Aaron
1. Developer's Agreement
2. Unpaid Property Taxes

B. Asbury Shores Update - Mr. Northgrave 

III. Acquisition 
A. 214-216 Fourth Avenue (Sigford Ventures), Block 175, Lot 16 - Mr. Aaron

IV. Personnel 
A. Asbury Works (2) Positions

B. Tax Assessor (1) Position 


ASBURY PARK CITY COUNCIL 
WORKSHOP SESSION MEETING AGENDA
DECEMBER 20, 2006 - 6PM
OPEN TO THE PUBLIC

I. Review of Regular Agenda

II. Mr. Sammet, Redevelopment and Planning Director 
A. Request to extend Paramount Homes' temporary trailers at current location


B. Planning Board's recommendation for an amendment to the STARS
redevelopment plan at 1406-1422 Springwood Avenue 

III. Mr. Gilmour, Commerce and Cultural Director and Mr. Grant, City
Engineer 
A. CBD Streetscape Design 

IV. Mr. Kay, Municipal Clerk 
A. Set dates for 2007 regularly scheduled Council meetings 

V. Ms. Hartman, Tax Assessor 
A. 5-Year exemption at 654 Cookman Avenue for Cookman Asbury Associates IV,
LLC  

VI. Request for use of public right-of-way  for Robert Legere Homes-Design
Center 
 
VII. Matters to be introduced by City Council 

VIII. Matters to be introduced by City Attorney

IX. Matters to be introduced by City Manager

X. Matters to be introduced by Assistant City Manager 


ASBURY PARK CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
NOVEMBER 13, 2006 - 7PM
OPEN TO THE PUBLIC 

I. Public Participation 

II. Approval of Minutes 

III. Payroll Resolution

IV. Bill Resolution and Inservco 

V. Applications and Liquor Licenses 
A. Bingo Licenses for 2007  

VI. Resolutions 
A. Appointments/Re-Appointments
B. Appoint Registrar, Deputy and Alternate 
C. Annual Notice 
D. Item from Tax Collector 
E. Petty Cash Fund 
F. State Purchase - Police: Guns and Vests 
G. Budget Transfers
H. Amend 2006 Budget 

VII. Ordinances 
A. Introduction 
1. 214-216 Fourth Avenue 

VII. Decision on Bids
A. Jet Vac Truck, Street Sweeper, Sewer Camera, 

B. RCA Project - 1106 Monroe Avenue  


Councilman James W. Keady
1 Municipal Plaza
Asbury Park, NJ 07712
TEL: 732.502.5196
EM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.cityofasburypark.com






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: 4 Down 196 to go.

2006-12-20 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
I remmber when a kid went bad the family would send him down south 
with family and the kid came back a new person. Dicipline, respect 
are learned with the help of a branch from a bush.




 I agree Allen.  How can his family claim any surprise.  After being 
> arrested with a gun and a threat to kill, his parents should have 
> had him on a very short leash.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson  
> wrote:
> >
> > Not to mention he was arrested this past summer for weapon 
> possesion because he was heard saying he was going to shoot his 
> girlfriend.  That may have been a sign.
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Fred 
> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:39:08 PM
> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 4 Down 196 to go.
> > 
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" 
> >  wrote:
> > The Mothe of the shooter said today the city is doing all it can 
> it's 
> > time for the PARENTS to step in. I think this is the same Woman 
> who 
> > ran for council/ She a Parent lison for the schools. How can she 
> not 
> > know her son was a Blood? Don't they get some kind of Gang 
> training? 
> > They should, if they deal with the Parents of they these kids. I 
> > think the Parents are more afraid then anybody. 
> > >
> > 
> > Oh, I see what you mean. You could be right.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred"  
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Actually it's 5 down 10 to go.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Actually it's 4 down, 12 to go. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred"  
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Hinge"  
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ASBURY PARK — A 21-year old woman from Neptune was 
> killed 
> > > Dec. 
> > > > 5 
> > > > > in 
> > > > > > a dispute by the 
> > > > > > > members of the same set of the street gang the Bloods, 
> > > Monmouth 
> > > > > > County Prosecutor Luis 
> > > > > > > A. Valentin said at a press conference this morning.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Three members of the Bloods gang - Cassey Gross, 20, 
> Samuel 
> > > > > Ling, 
> > > > > > 19, and Quincell 
> > > > > > > Adams, 18 - have been charged with murder and 
conspiracy 
> to 
> > > > > commit 
> > > > > > murder in the 
> > > > > > > killing of Latyria Nealy. Ling was also charged with 
> > weapons 
> > > > > > offenses. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ling and Gross are from Asbury Park, and Adams is from 
> > > Neptune, 
> > > > > > according to Valentin.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Phyllis Ling, the mother of Samuel Ling, was at the 
> press 
> > > > > > conference. She works as a 
> > > > > > > parent liason for the city school district.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "I'd like to to apologize to the Nealy family on behalf 
> of 
> > > my 
> > > > > > family,'' Phyllis Ling said.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Valentin would not disclose any details of the gang 
> dispute 
> > > > that 
> > > > > > lead to Nealy's murder
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In addition to those three arrests, a fourth person, 
> Nikki 
> > > L. 
> > > > > > Moore, 19, of Asbury Park, was 
> > > > > > > taken into custody last week and also charged with 
> murder 
> > > and 
> > > > > > conspiracy to commit 
> > > > > > > murder. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > All four of the defendants, and Nealy, were members of 
> the 
> > > > > Bloods 
> > > > > > gang, authorities said.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Nealy died after she was shot in the parking lot of an 
> > > Asbury 
> > > > > Park 
> > > > > > apartment complex on 
> > > > > > > Dec. 5. Valentin said today she had been shot once in 
> the 
> > > head.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[AsburyPark] Re: 4 Down 196 to go.

2006-12-20 Thread justifiedright
I agree Allen.  How can his family claim any surprise.  After being 
arrested with a gun and a threat to kill, his parents should have 
had him on a very short leash.





--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Not to mention he was arrested this past summer for weapon 
possesion because he was heard saying he was going to shoot his 
girlfriend.  That may have been a sign.
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:39:08 PM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 4 Down 196 to go.
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> The Mothe of the shooter said today the city is doing all it can 
it's 
> time for the PARENTS to step in. I think this is the same Woman 
who 
> ran for council/ She a Parent lison for the schools. How can she 
not 
> know her son was a Blood? Don't they get some kind of Gang 
training? 
> They should, if they deal with the Parents of they these kids. I 
> think the Parents are more afraid then anybody. 
> >
> 
> Oh, I see what you mean. You could be right.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Actually it's 5 down 10 to go.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually it's 4 down, 12 to go. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred"  
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Hinge"  
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ASBURY PARK — A 21-year old woman from Neptune was 
killed 
> > Dec. 
> > > 5 
> > > > in 
> > > > > a dispute by the 
> > > > > > members of the same set of the street gang the Bloods, 
> > Monmouth 
> > > > > County Prosecutor Luis 
> > > > > > A. Valentin said at a press conference this morning.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Three members of the Bloods gang - Cassey Gross, 20, 
Samuel 
> > > > Ling, 
> > > > > 19, and Quincell 
> > > > > > Adams, 18 - have been charged with murder and conspiracy 
to 
> > > > commit 
> > > > > murder in the 
> > > > > > killing of Latyria Nealy. Ling was also charged with 
> weapons 
> > > > > offenses. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ling and Gross are from Asbury Park, and Adams is from 
> > Neptune, 
> > > > > according to Valentin.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Phyllis Ling, the mother of Samuel Ling, was at the 
press 
> > > > > conference. She works as a 
> > > > > > parent liason for the city school district.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "I'd like to to apologize to the Nealy family on behalf 
of 
> > my 
> > > > > family,'' Phyllis Ling said.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Valentin would not disclose any details of the gang 
dispute 
> > > that 
> > > > > lead to Nealy's murder
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In addition to those three arrests, a fourth person, 
Nikki 
> > L. 
> > > > > Moore, 19, of Asbury Park, was 
> > > > > > taken into custody last week and also charged with 
murder 
> > and 
> > > > > conspiracy to commit 
> > > > > > murder. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All four of the defendants, and Nealy, were members of 
the 
> > > > Bloods 
> > > > > gang, authorities said.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nealy died after she was shot in the parking lot of an 
> > Asbury 
> > > > Park 
> > > > > apartment complex on 
> > > > > > Dec. 5. Valentin said today she had been shot once in 
the 
> > head.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 4 Down 196 to go.

2006-12-20 Thread Allan Peterson
Not to mention he was arrested this past summer for weapon possesion because he 
was heard saying he was going to shoot his girlfriend.  That may have been a 
sign.


- Original Message 
From: Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:39:08 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 4 Down 196 to go.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" 
 wrote:
The Mothe of the shooter said today the city is doing all it can it's 
time for the PARENTS to step in. I think this is the same Woman who 
ran for council/ She a Parent lison for the schools. How can she not 
know her son was a Blood? Don't they get some kind of Gang training? 
They should, if they deal with the Parents of they these kids. I 
think the Parents are more afraid then anybody. 
>

Oh, I see what you mean. You could be right.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Actually it's 5 down 10 to go.
> > > 
> > > Actually it's 4 down, 12 to go. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ASBURY PARK — A 21-year old woman from Neptune was killed 
> Dec. 
> > 5 
> > > in 
> > > > a dispute by the 
> > > > > members of the same set of the street gang the Bloods, 
> Monmouth 
> > > > County Prosecutor Luis 
> > > > > A. Valentin said at a press conference this morning.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Three members of the Bloods gang - Cassey Gross, 20, Samuel 
> > > Ling, 
> > > > 19, and Quincell 
> > > > > Adams, 18 - have been charged with murder and conspiracy to 
> > > commit 
> > > > murder in the 
> > > > > killing of Latyria Nealy. Ling was also charged with 
weapons 
> > > > offenses. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ling and Gross are from Asbury Park, and Adams is from 
> Neptune, 
> > > > according to Valentin.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Phyllis Ling, the mother of Samuel Ling, was at the press 
> > > > conference. She works as a 
> > > > > parent liason for the city school district.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "I'd like to to apologize to the Nealy family on behalf of 
> my 
> > > > family,'' Phyllis Ling said.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Valentin would not disclose any details of the gang dispute 
> > that 
> > > > lead to Nealy's murder
> > > > > 
> > > > > In addition to those three arrests, a fourth person, Nikki 
> L. 
> > > > Moore, 19, of Asbury Park, was 
> > > > > taken into custody last week and also charged with murder 
> and 
> > > > conspiracy to commit 
> > > > > murder. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > All four of the defendants, and Nealy, were members of the 
> > > Bloods 
> > > > gang, authorities said.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nealy died after she was shot in the parking lot of an 
> Asbury 
> > > Park 
> > > > apartment complex on 
> > > > > Dec. 5. Valentin said today she had been shot once in the 
> head.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: 6 Down 194 to go.

2006-12-20 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
BREAKING NEWS: Woman killed in Neptune Township; prosecutor says may 
not be gang-related
Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 12/20/06
 Post Comment 
NEPTUNE TOWNSHIP — The Neptune Township Police and the Monmouth 
County Prosecutor's Office is investigating the homicide of an adult 
woman this morning, at a location which is not being disclosed by law 
enforcement, said Monmouth County Prosecutor Luis A. Valentin.

"Preliminarily, it is important to note that this homicide appears to 
be unrelated to recent homicides,'' Valentin said at 8:30 a.m.

Valentin said it was too early to release further information about 
the woman's death.

Latyria M. Nealy of Neptune, was the latest victim of gang-related 
violence which includes an ongoing dispute within the same set of the 
Bloods street gang.

Four people were arrested and charged with the Nealy shooting and are 
members of the Bloods gang that operates in the Asbury Park area, 
Valentin said Tuesday. Nealy was also a member, he said.

Margaret F. Bonafide







the mother of the shooter ran for the board of
> education about three years ago
> --- Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> >  wrote:
> > The Mothe of the shooter said today the city is
> > doing all it can it's 
> > time for the PARENTS to step in. I think this is the
> > same Woman who 
> > ran for council/ She a Parent lison for the schools.
> > How can she not 
> > know her son was a Blood? Don't they get some kind
> > of Gang training? 
> > They should, if they deal with the Parents of they
> > these kids. I 
> > think the Parents are more afraid then anybody. 
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  Oh, I see what you mean.  You could be right.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
> >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
> > "justifiedright" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Actually it's 5 down 10 to go.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Actually it's 4 down, 12 to go.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred"
> >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"
> >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ASBURY PARK — A 21-year old woman from
> > Neptune was killed 
> > > Dec. 
> > > > 5 
> > > > > in 
> > > > > > a dispute by the 
> > > > > > > members of the same set of the street gang
> > the Bloods, 
> > > Monmouth 
> > > > > > County Prosecutor Luis 
> > > > > > > A. Valentin said at a press conference
> > this morning.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Three members of the Bloods gang - Cassey
> > Gross, 20, Samuel 
> > > > > Ling, 
> > > > > > 19, and Quincell 
> > > > > > > Adams, 18 - have been charged with murder
> > and conspiracy to 
> > > > > commit 
> > > > > > murder in the 
> > > > > > > killing of Latyria Nealy. Ling was also
> > charged with 
> > weapons 
> > > > > > offenses. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ling and Gross are from Asbury Park, and
> > Adams is from 
> > > Neptune, 
> > > > > > according to Valentin.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Phyllis Ling, the mother of Samuel Ling,
> > was at the press 
> > > > > > conference. She works as a 
> > > > > > > parent liason for the city school
> > district.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > "I'd like to to apologize to the Nealy
> > family on behalf of 
> > > my 
> > > > > > family,'' Phyllis Ling said.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Valentin would not disclose any details of
> > the gang dispute 
> > > > that 
> > > > > > lead to Nealy's murder
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In addition to those three arrests, a
> > fourth person, Nikki 
> > > L. 
> > > > > > Moore, 19, of Asbury Park, was 
> > > > > > > taken into custody last week and also
> > charged with murder 
> > > and 
> > > > > > conspiracy to commit 
> > > > > > > murder. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > All four of the defendants, and Nealy,
> > were members of the 
> > > > > Bloods 
> > > > > > gang, authorities said.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Nealy died after she was shot in the
> > parking lot of an 
> > > Asbury 
> > > > > Park 
> > > > > > apartment complex on 
> > > > > > > Dec. 5. Valentin said today she had been
> > shot once in the 
> > > head.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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[AsburyPark] Re: But The City won't call Christmas "Christmas"

2006-12-20 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
Next year maybe they should go to a Kwanzaa Celabration.





 This is how a smart town teaches kids...
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yk9dts
> 
> 
> Notice the goal is to instill values.
> 
> No Bloods in Howell.
 
No affordable Housing
No poverty
No section 8
No soup kitchens
No Blacks
Forget about values teach them life, take them on a tour in the life 
of a Asbury kid. They'll never return. We know the parents of these 
kids goals are for their kids never to see it. You may be the odd 
family out because you were raised here. But the majority of Howell 
residenta don't want any part of it. What would happen if you went to 
a Howell BOE meeting and advised them to regionize with Asbury? I'm 
sure a cross would be burning on your lawn by midnight


> 
> Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: But The City won't call Christmas "Christmas"

2006-12-20 Thread justifiedright
This is how a smart town teaches kids...

http://tinyurl.com/yk9dts


Notice the goal is to instill values.

No Bloods in Howell.


Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah.



 
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