[AsburyPark] Re: NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wait_foru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When the state pays for the majority of school funding it eases the % taken out of local taxes.the city has quietly taken the difference...my question is what has been done with it..check you taxes before Abbott and now...you will see the city has benefitted... School taxes are set independently from municipal taxes. Do you know how property taxes are figured? You firgure how much you need, subtract all other sources of income and the rest has to be made up through property taxes. Doesn't matter what combination of assessment or rate you use. You need to get the number. The schools have a budget and the municipality has a budget. They tax to meet the budgets. That's it. That's all. One has nothing to do with the other. We are paying lss tax because of Abbott funding. The city is not pocketing what wold have gone to the schools. ts not the city's money. No Abbott funding, all else being equal, city taxes stay the same and school taxes skyrocket. Except of course for the new condos. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Too bad they aren't developers." > > your right... there not. they own the land and sell it off to developers to develope. its clear now, and has been for a few yeares that asbury partners dont really plan on "doing anything" thats fine. as long as they sell of the land to developers who will. anyone whos still talking about asbury parnters arnt doing anything need to get with it.., of course their not. that wasnt part of their plan. look around. now we have MM doing things they said they would. whoever they pass the land off to, will take part in something asbury partners didnt do? That was accounted for in the plan, but not the plan. It certainly was not the plan to have nothing done for as long as it has (on the waterfront). This city is once again held hostage, however, counting 25 years left in the plan, maybe a bit longer than the bankruptcy court. MM means well but they still do not have a plan. You need a plan and need to implement it. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.
yeah, ignore that comment. i checked, its not listed. i could have sworn something was planned there. oh well. it lists a ground floor lounge area with fireplace. thats probably what i read before, but it was worded differenlty. - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NJ School Districts: Tools for Discussing and Comparing
When the state pays for the majority of school funding it eases the % taken out of local taxes.the city has quietly taken the difference...my question is what has been done with it..check you taxes before Abbott and now...you will see the city has benefitted... dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I'm trying to understand all this myself now. > > > I found the breakdown for AP's taxes here: County, School, Municipal, each > in turn broken down further. > _http://tax.co.monmouth.nj.us/pdf/Tr06.pdf_ > (http://tax.co.monmouth.nj.us/pdf/Tr06.pdf) The general rate is the total tax rate comprised of county, school and municipal rates. The local rate is the school and municipal rates. > > I've also been checking out these: > > > 1. Seems like AP is way up there. Maybe because of all the bogus tax-exempt > "churches"; maybe because all the social services other towns don't or > won't offer: > _Freehold Township : Comparison of Municipal Tax Rates_ > (http://www.twp.freehold.nj.us/e- government/financials/comp_mun_rates.asp) > It is my experience that many low-income areas have high tax rates. What is more important is effective tax rates, which I think your following link addresses. What I think that is is measure what the actual or nominal rate is based upon the promulgated av's and equalization ratios and what the rate is based upon the equalization rate (percentage of value represented by assessment or av). If you were truly assessed at 100% of market value (which is a moving target) the general rate and effective rate would be equal. I don;t think it is going into the area of what you are actually paying based upon what the "real" equalization rate is. For instance, assume the equalization rate is 50%, meaning that if your av is $200,000 the assessor says your property has a markey value of $400,000. But if your property is really worth $600,, the real equalization rate is 33.33%, and then even an effective tax rate would be even lower considering this equalization rate. Smoke and mirrors. What people want to know is how much am I paying and what do I get in return. If you ask me, you pay a lot and get little in this town. We pay so much because ou city spends so much. Why do they spend so much? Man there is a lot of fat that needs to be cut in this town. Too many old time families with connections in this town on the city payroll. Who do you think a lot of those posters were on this forum. I won't mention names. Sad part is that the powers that be keep getting into office because it is these old timers that do the voting. A lot of the new comers (and I will include the past ten years) can't or don't vote here because of various reasons. Too many entrenched interests in this city government. That is why nothing improves. They want the status quo to remain. Good feeding. - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
[AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.
There is no retail planned for NorthBeach...no bar or restaurant either. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the wont tear down the stone pony. im almost 100 percent sure of it. they claimed they never would. all the recent radio promotions claim "the pony is here to stay, were not going anywhere". aside from that, if something should ever happen, the most theyd do is move the building (in my mind). the "enterainment area" should be ocean ave, and at least over to the stone pony block. is ocean ave still designated as ground floor stores, etc?? north beach, and c8 site both do. but from the outside, youd never guess it. they have a bar and restarnate in the ground floors. the architects needs to make the ground floods look more like "something else" i think. not one building, where youd never guess something was downstairs for visotors. not just housing. do you really think their will be a sign outside showing the bar inside north beach? i doubt it. ocean ave will not have the feeling i thought it would. the ground flood, or whatevers inside the groudn floor of > these housing units needs to be more visiable in future designs! theres only 1 or 2 blocks more left for ocean ave. > > > - > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.
"I ask you this. Have you ever dealt with them? Have you ever spoken directly with ANYONE who has? Anyone on that long list of disgruntled former associates? Nothing they do should surprise anyone." i know a few people that work there. what problems are you talking about? - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.
"Too bad they aren't developers." your right... there not. they own the land and sell it off to developers to develope. its clear now, and has been for a few yeares that asbury partners dont really plan on "doing anything" thats fine. as long as they sell of the land to developers who will. anyone whos still talking about asbury parnters arnt doing anything need to get with it.., of course their not. that wasnt part of their plan. look around. now we have MM doing things they said they would. whoever they pass the land off to, will take part in something asbury partners didnt do? - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Golddigger - R.I.P.
the wont tear down the stone pony. im almost 100 percent sure of it. they claimed they never would. all the recent radio promotions claim "the pony is here to stay, were not going anywhere". aside from that, if something should ever happen, the most theyd do is move the building (in my mind). the "enterainment area" should be ocean ave, and at least over to the stone pony block. is ocean ave still designated as ground floor stores, etc?? north beach, and c8 site both do. but from the outside, youd never guess it. they have a bar and restarnate in the ground floors. the architects needs to make the ground floods look more like "something else" i think. not one building, where youd never guess something was downstairs for visotors. not just housing. do you really think their will be a sign outside showing the bar inside north beach? i doubt it. ocean ave will not have the feeling i thought it would. the ground flood, or whatevers inside the groudn floor of these housing units needs to be more visiable in future designs! theres only 1 or 2 blocks more left for ocean ave. - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
[AsburyPark] Re: The Cost Of Education
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Asbury Park, an Abbott school district, is paying about $19,102 for each of > its students this school year, which is the highest per-pupil spending rate in > Monmouth and Ocean counties, according to data released Friday by the state > Department of Education. > To put this in perspective, tuition at Rutgers is $9,958 per year. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda
Why stop there? Since marriage is for procreation, any marriage without the ability to make babies should be outlawed. Sterile heterosexuals should not be allowed to get married. All women past menopause should not be allowed to marry. All senior citizens should not be allowed to marry. Maybe we should also look into heterosexual males with slow-swimming sperm, too. Heck, since currently married heterosexual adults cannot procreate, we should outlaw their sexual intercourse so their energy can be redirected into less frivolous activities. As for promiscuous, let's ask Newt Gingrich about the definition. Tom
[AsburyPark] Re: Correcting Mr. Vail's comments
I've also conrtibuted and appreciate what you are doing Paul. That said, I share the same concerns. Please make this fight about the Mission and not about your views on AP politics. That's the effort I contributed to. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady > wrote: > > > > Ladies and Gentlemen: > > > > > > > > I am writing to correct for the record statements recently posted > by Mr. > > Paul Vail regarding the March 20, 2007 Zoning Board Meeting. > > Jim > > You are in a class by yourself. I only wish there were more like you > on the council. I was hoping you would respond to Paul and I > purposefully held my tongue (keypad). > > Paul: > > You do more harm by your continal misrepresentation. You owe me > nothing any longer since you have in fact refunded my contributions > to SUFA after you refused to distinguish your personal political > views from the aims of SUFA. Again, while I support what I thought > were the stated aims of SUFA, I can no loger support it as an > organization as long as you continue to editorialize and mix politics > with what it is trying to acheieve. That's why I asked for my money > back and why I took the lawn signs off my property. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Drug Testing in Schools
I just saw on TV that the Hanover Park NJ schools are going to begin dug testing on all students. While controversial the stated objective is not to punish but to both deter use and to identify those kids who need help and get it to them. One of the interesting comments I heard in the report was from some students, who said the drug testing enabled them to have an excuse why they wouldn't do drugs when offered by friends. I can relate as when I was in High School my involvement in sports was an accetible reason for me to turn down these types of offers without any hard feelings or peer pressure. I'd be interested in thoughts on this kind of policy for AP schools. While the ACLU has already said they will fight this policy, the courts have generally ruled against policies that single out indivuals or groups but allowed broader non-discriminitory types of things. If this kind of policy can help kids who try drugs before it's too late, remove hard core drug users so others can learn in a safe environment and give kids an acceptable way to avoid peer pressure I am all for it. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda
Kevin, the biggest sign of how discounted and irrelevant you have become on this board is how little response and emotion you have generated with your ridiculous ranting. Even rolemover can still get some people to react emotionally to his hate-filled rants. Go start a Long Branch board and see if you can offend people there. It doesn't seem like anybody here really seems to care much. Sometimes relative silence speaks much louder than a loud response. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I appreciate your point, in as much as you have a right to it. > There was not one ounce of blarney in my post. > > Points of Fact: > > 45 States have constitutional amendments that define marriage "as > between one man and one woman." > > The leadership of all anti "faith based" social groups are either gay > or gay sympathisers. > > Government is better serving the people by spending less money and > less time legislating morality. > > The Kingdom of God is not the American Democratic System. > > IN any event, enjoy your liberty as I enjoy mine. > > KB > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Triangle and other Public Property
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Triangle should never have been up for sale in the first place, it > is Public Property > > The same goes for the entire beachfront and associated buildings. > Aslo the parcels between the Casino and Palace along with the > associated streets. > > Sale of these Public Properties - all a huge error in judgement, and > in my view a violation of the "public trust". That is to say it is the > responsibility of a municipal body to propect and preserve the assets > of the taxpayers for future generations. Well that horse is certainly out of the barn isn't it? Your own "Edict of Restitution" Ferdinand? Godspeed. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The Cost Of Education
Asbury Park, an Abbott school district, is paying about $19,102 for each of its students this school year, which is the highest per-pupil spending rate in Monmouth and Ocean counties, according to data released Friday by the state Department of Education. NEWS AND INFORMATION WITH A UNIQUE TWIST The Brown Report on the Electric News weeknights a 7 est._www.electricnews.com_ (http://www.electricnews.com/) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Triangle and other Public Property
The Triangle should never have been up for sale in the first place, it is Public Property The same goes for the entire beachfront and associated buildings. Aslo the parcels between the Casino and Palace along with the associated streets. Sale of these Public Properties - all a huge error in judgement, and in my view a violation of the "public trust". That is to say it is the responsibility of a municipal body to propect and preserve the assets of the taxpayers for future generations. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda
I appreciate your point, in as much as you have a right to it. There was not one ounce of blarney in my post. Points of Fact: 45 States have constitutional amendments that define marriage "as between one man and one woman." The leadership of all anti "faith based" social groups are either gay or gay sympathisers. Government is better serving the people by spending less money and less time legislating morality. The Kingdom of God is not the American Democratic System. IN any event, enjoy your liberty as I enjoy mine. KB Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury Is Solely a Gay agenda
I appreciate your point, in as much as you have a right to it. There was not one ounce of blarney in my post. Points of Fact: 45 States have constitutional amendments that define marriage "as between one man and one woman." The leadership of all anti "faith based" social groups are either gay or gay sympathisers. Government is better serving the people by spending less money and less time legislating morality. The Kingdom of God is not the American Democratic System. IN any event, enjoy your liberty as I enjoy mine. KB Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
