[AsburyPark] Re: Last Chance to Vote

2007-05-18 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'll be closing the 7 polls I opened and posting the results very 
> shortly.
> 
> Seems like a microcosm of Asbury Park in terms of participation. 
(poor 
> turn out)
> 
> Cast your vote now!
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/polls
> 
> Werner
>

Last - Last Chance, I'm closing the polls this coming Sunday night.

The results will be posted and I'll provide post poll evaluation.

Werner




 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bravo to Justified Right!

2007-05-18 Thread MarioAPNJ
 
 
In a message dated 5/18/2007 4:54:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Who are you and what have you done with  Mario?;-)  



Same guy who posted back in November 2006, Re: October School Board  Meeting 
--


 
"Tommy's response, below, is the most thoughtful and reasonable response to  
this issue yet to appear in this group." -- 

_Click here:  AsburyPark : Message: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: October School Board 
Meeting_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/18955)  



 
 
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Every once in a while,  Blue Moon, Devil Moon, whatever
 

 
 







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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Green Spaces being "activated"

2007-05-18 Thread charlie
 Was this the presentation that was going to be held at Taka?  There is an 
article about it? If so, where?  What else was said?  Not sure if what your 
responding to is the same presentation i'm talking about though

   
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[AsburyPark] Casino

2007-05-18 Thread charlie
 Is the new roof on the Casino going to be covered with copper of 
some sort?  Or was that just the back half that had the copper?  
Someone was talking about this not too long ago, but i forgot what was 
said again!
 There are plans to have the walk thru open for the summer?



 
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[AsburyPark] HoJo pavillion

2007-05-18 Thread charlie
 Things are looking good at the HoJo pavillion.  The new lights 
inside look good at night too.  The whole thing started out looking 
pretty bad, just a fast job (it still is).  However, it's looking 
pretty good now.  The new lights look nice.  
 Also, the new Paramount stairs look good. A bigger version of what 
was there before.  Notice the proper rise and run for the stairs now, 
compared to the awkard stepness of the previous



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bravo to Justified Right!

2007-05-18 Thread justifiedright
Who are you and what have you done with Mario?

;-)


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>  The approaching Blue Moon won't be  full until next week, but it 
must  
> account for my agreeing with Tommy DeSeno this week.  "Once in a  
blue moon" as 
> they say.  
>  
>  
> In "Political Lesson," he refuses to  apologize for "taking on a 
priest" and 
> holds fast  to his JSRM opposition.Bravo Tommy! 
> Great letters too in triCity  -- from "Aunt Charlotte" about not 
bringing 
> "coals to Newcastle"  and from Richard Schlossbach about the 
arts.   
> And Carolyn  Curtin's letter in The Coaster which responds to some 
of our 
> local  clergy. 
> More arts, books, retail traffic, revenue producers  -- yes!
> More tax-exempts -- no! 
> More accountability and efficiency from our 159  current tax-
exempts -- yes! 
> I've no intention to re-open any old debates here,  so for those 
who 
> disagree, please see  _http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/_ 
> (http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/) . 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[AsburyPark] Bravo to Justified Right!

2007-05-18 Thread MarioAPNJ
 The approaching Blue Moon won't be  full until next week, but it must  
account for my agreeing with Tommy DeSeno this week.  "Once in a  blue moon" as 
they say.  
 
 
In "Political Lesson," he refuses to  apologize for "taking on a priest" and 
holds fast  to his JSRM opposition.Bravo Tommy! 
Great letters too in triCity  -- from "Aunt Charlotte" about not bringing 
"coals to Newcastle"  and from Richard Schlossbach about the arts.   
And Carolyn  Curtin's letter in The Coaster which responds to some of our 
local  clergy. 
More arts, books, retail traffic, revenue producers  -- yes!
More tax-exempts -- no! 
More accountability and efficiency from our 159  current tax-exempts -- yes! 
I've no intention to re-open any old debates here,  so for those who 
disagree, please see  _http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/_ 
(http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/) . 
 





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[AsburyPark] WAVE GATHERING - FREE SHOW!

2007-05-18 Thread carlchesna
Tomorrow (Saturday 5/19) night at Chat 'n Nibble, I'll be doing about 
45 minutes of music without the band -just me and my guitar, solo-
acoustic.  I'm going to do some stuff you know, and then some old stuff 
you've probably never heard - some obscure covers, and other oddities.  
Hope you can make it!  I go on at 10:30 pm - so get your drink on and 
head on over...

Carl Chesna
605 Lake Ave.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Green Spaces being "activated"

2007-05-18 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Werner
>
==

OK, You encouraged me to read the article, I couldn't attend the 
presentation although I purchased an advance ticket.

First of all - The "green spaces" are intrinsic to the character 
defining features of Asbury Park. They are extensions of the public 
roads and are a part of the City design.

Scenic views, Open space, Set-backs between buildings - all have an 
intrinsic value. Although a developer may not recognize it.

Being Public Property there certainly should be restrictions as to 
the uses allowed. Traditionally, "soft uses" were typical such as 
lawns, gardens, statues, pony rides, mini-golf, kiddy rides, etc.

Certainly buildings and structures would deminish the value of those 
spaces and should not be permitted. I cringed at the comments about 
towers, water slides, etc. 

In the current context I would say that no development at all, aside 
from lawns, gardens and statues should be permitted. Focus on the 
real needs, the Pavilions, Cas, ConHall, etc.

Of those are attended to, there will be no need for "green space 
development" In fact the green-ness will actually add to the value 
of the buildings.

Most folks just remember the honky-tonk and kiddie rides - THAT IS 
NOT Asbury Park - it was just a phase we went through based upon 
economic depression that should not be repeated.

Asbury Park can and shopuld rise above that collective memory. There 
is ample opportunity to restore the boat rides in Wesley Lake, and 
build an observation tower or ferris wheel at the Palace site.

Not every scrap of land needs to be "Activated". Many times being 
passive is of greater value.

Werner

 





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] MM on the Tiki Bar...

2007-05-18 Thread Allan Peterson
Maybe he is listening to someone but this is just the obvious.



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Subject: [AsburyPark] MM on the Tiki Bar...

What Mottola said on the Tiki:

yea, it's cute you sit out there looking at the ocean, having a drink 
or bite of food eh..then you look up or down and you have rusted 
ceiling fans, rust falling down, rusted this etc...

We'll make it nice.

Again, he must be listening, to someone.

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[AsburyPark] Green Spaces being "activated"

2007-05-18 Thread oakdorf
Werner





 
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[AsburyPark] MM on the Tiki Bar...

2007-05-18 Thread oakdorf
What Mottola said on the Tiki:

yea, it's cute you sit out there looking at the ocean, having a drink 
or bite of food eh..then you look up or down and you have rusted 
ceiling fans, rust falling down, rusted this etc...

We'll make it nice.

Again, he must be listening, to someone.

See what the summer brings.



 
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[AsburyPark] Who appointed Ned Brown

2007-05-18 Thread restore881FM
AsburyAct -
That's a good question: Who appointed Ned Brown to the Zoning Board of 
Adjustment. I believe I did know back then, but it's not in my files. Eileen, 
can you fill in this one for us?
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[AsburyPark] Re: Atlanticville, May 17, 2006

2007-05-18 Thread Kevin Brown
He was paid $140,000.00, which was less than his tax assessment.  
They did a curbside assessment.



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseykev@ wrote:
> >
> > Letters
> > May  17,  2007  
> > Public advocate should vet all property takings  
> > Ronald Chen, public advocate, a good man by the way,  wants to 
put a
> face on 
> > what eminent domain abuse has done to folks  in New Jersey.  
> > He really doesn't have to look far. Long Branch took  47 Cooper 
Ave. in 
> > November 2002. The home belonged to Bruce MacCloud  where he lived
> 300 feet from 
> > the ocean for over 20 years. He did not  want to move, he was not
> cooperative 
> > with the taking, and as a  result was forcibly removed by Long
> Branch police.  
> > Two months later his house was demolished, and today  there are 
> > million-dollar condos on his 10,000 square feet of  land.  
> > What makes this so horrible is almost five years  later, Mr. Mac
> Cloud is 
> > still homeless, because the compensation  courts have yet to have
> his trial.
> 
> But I assume he has been paid the "advance payment" of their highest
> appraisal? What's the statutory interest in NJ?
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[AsburyPark] Re: Chamber of Commerce Luncheon

2007-05-18 Thread 2fine4u
Oh yeah?  New top coat for Ocean Ave.?  How come a perfectly redone
street, (Sewell Ave.), was dug up to run new sewer lines, I was told,
has never been repaved?  The front of the 600 & 700 block are like a
war zone!  Was told over a year ago, it was the gas companies job! 
OK, what about us?  Anyone who cares to ride up the street from Main
to Grand Ave., will know what I'm talking about!  It's a mess!  The
school blocks off all the streets in the morning and afternoon, with
the worse crossing guards in the county!  Ride through here anytime
and you'll see the "checkpoint charlie" barricades!  No kidding!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 1. The "plant" will someday be tied in to the casino "market"
> 2. He used the term "activated" for the green spaces on the BW. Like 
> any real estate guy, that is Ocean Front Land. Seems like they are 
> getting buyddy buddy with the state - to "help" AP
> 3. The wave pool he threw out there, but I thought the same thing
> 4. They also want to tie in all the retail and walkways, so when you 
> look at the "history" of AP, you tie in Ocean Ave-  all retail should 
> be tied in etc. They don't want "gap"  - AP, and every shore town has 
> its own unique theme.
> 5.Wesley Plaza is the name he gave to the new idea. The "former" plan 
> had 3 levels of retail which is said would not work, the new plan 
> would create ground floor retail, tie it in to the casino etc. Does 
> not like malls - town centers tb Wesley Plaza - casino to W. Grove to 
> cookman.
> 6. Thy're idea to cleanup the gateway to the ocean (the pits and 
> trucks at the casino). 
> 
> 7. CH - the whole thing doesn't make ecomnomic sense 
> 
> 8. Larry shoed up at the end. Yuri was there to hold the fort down.
> 16. Its a challenge. MM wants to (needs to ) work with community 
> 
> Funny you use the term bones. Thats what MM said- "the bones" are 
> here. 
> 
> "Never again" would an opportunity exist to recreate the history and 
> a new town center like this. This is not a standard thing you see 
> elsewhere around the country I thought werner wrote this for him
> 
> You have to realize what I said  - you need plans. Development plans, 
> concept plans, building plans, appprovals, buidlers etc.
> 
> Be happy for now Ocean Ave is getting a final top coat, the lots are 
> getting cleaned up, the boardwalk is lit, the beach is clean and 
> there are police around and enjoy the good food AP has to offer. 
> 
> He also mentioned they are talking to surf shops, places to buy a 
> water.
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Ned Brown Indicted Again - Wanted to help the poor buy houses...yeah...

2007-05-18 Thread 2fine4u
I can only echo, this response!  Some people think they are above the
law and that the law, doesn't apply to them!  Those who have felt they
have no obligation, to the public, think again!  This won't be the end
of exposing findings, like this!

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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "radio881gal"  wrote:
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> > Will justice be served this time?
> > This is the guy who served on the Zoning Board of Adjustment while 
> > working deals with or for RDR Properties.
> > Check out the Ned Brown story on AsburyRadio.com
> > Please let me know what you think about this.
> > Best,
> > Maureen  
> > Asbury Radio
> 
>Great report on your site, Maureen!  It may take a while, but the
> truth usually does come out.  The personal touch and your knowledge of
> the entire matter are both admirable.  Valentin's comment in the Press
> story today and also in your article is very apt, and every public
> official should put it on an index card and carry it with him or her
> wherever they go: "Those who choose to serve the public in any
> capacity must put the public interest first and hold themselves
> accountable to higher standards. When a public official chooses to
> ignore the rule of law and place their own personal interests before
> that of the public they serve, they can face severe consequences." 
> Please keep up the good work!
> 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Ned Brown Indicted Again - Wanted to help the poor buy houses...yeah...

2007-05-18 Thread 2fine4u
So he thought, no one is going to say or DO anything, huh?  Read where
he cane on board, after me!  You know, I have no idea who he is!  I
thought Mr. Parreott, replaced me.  Thanks, Eileen!

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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u"  wrote:
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> > Maureen:
> > Don't know Ned Brown.  Who appointed him to the board of adjustment
> > and for how long?  Strange, he didn't abstain on that vote...clear
> > conflict of interest!  Seems the attorney, (if he knew), would've
> > advised him.  A big "if"!
> > S
> > 
> >The attorney did advise him to abstain if he had a 
> conflict.   
>
> Eileen Sonnier, Former Chairperson AP Zoning Board of 
> Adjustment
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[AsburyPark] Re: (no subject)

2007-05-18 Thread oakdorf

> "That needs to be addressed. . . . Those of us involved need to
offer support to  
> the school system." 
> Gary Mottola of Madison Marquette 


He also said the ABBOTT issues are troublesome - and that's where
issues have to be addressed.

Maybe he picked up on the billion already invested in the schools in
just AP. 

He wante to talk about it, and then caught himself and stopped. 

I think HE sees the value in makeing AP a FAMILY stop



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: (no subject)

2007-05-18 Thread oakdorf

> "That needs to be addressed. . . . Those of us involved need to
offer support to  
> the school system." 
> Gary Mottola of Madison Marquette 


He also said the ABBOTT issues are troublesome - and that's where
issues have to be addressed.

Maybe he picked up on the billion already invested in the schools in
just AP. 

He wante to talk about it, and then caught himself and stopped. 

I think HE sees the value in makeing AP a FAMILY stop



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: (no subject)

2007-05-18 Thread Jim

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>  
> "To me, whatever success we have in Asbury Park . . . won't be truly  
> successful unless the school system in Asbury Park is working better," he 
> said.  
> "That needs to be addressed. . . . Those of us involved need to offer support 
> to  
> the school system." 
> Gary Mottola of Madison Marquette 
> I could not agree with him more. This is exactly what I have been saying  
> before I ran for the school board and during the campaign.  
> Garrett Giberson
> 
> 
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~~~This is true they are our next generation of 
A/P.My new Chain of Commmand of A/P {WWII Veterans some with teaching 
backgrounds} has been involve in the schools in talking with the students & 
plans on getting others Veterans back in with things like Voice of Demrocacy & 
other things the Veterans have for the students.
The only good thing that comes from 2 Country's going to War is a lesson at 
that comes at a very HIGH PRICE.Which shouldn't have to come but always will 
becauce of mainly Greed.

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[AsburyPark] (no subject)

2007-05-18 Thread GG518
 
"To me, whatever success we have in Asbury Park . . . won't be truly  
successful unless the school system in Asbury Park is working better," he said. 
 
"That needs to be addressed. . . . Those of us involved need to offer support 
to  
the school system." 
Gary Mottola of Madison Marquette 
I could not agree with him more. This is exactly what I have been saying  
before I ran for the school board and during the campaign.  
Garrett Giberson



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