[AsburyPark] Re: 18 "Johns/Joses" arrested in AP yesterday
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[AsburyPark] We should do a poll to see who are perceived to be the top 5 chatty Cathys'
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > =charge us $1.00 for every message posted on this board. > Werner Dan S Oak Hinge Chuck Leonard Are my vote, not in any order though Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
All right, Werner, i changed it so you don't go crazy. haha. - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
[AsburyPark] New poll for AsburyPark
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the AsburyPark group: Madisoni Marquette said No... DO YOU think there will still be a Carousel in the Carousel building? o Yes o No o Yes, i think there still may be a way o No, it's a done deal o I'm not sure at this point To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/surveys?id=2522573 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
Ha! Yes, i see your point (almost). Will it rain tomorrow? and Do you think it will rain tomorrow are both oppinon questions!!! I do see your point, and i even asked my mom a previous English teacher (ha!). She sees what your saying, and so do i.. However, i''m not sure i see the point in posting about this, when the point of the poll is pretty clear. :-) - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
[AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Werner, both "Do you think?" and Will there be?" are both forms of > questions. I'm assuming if people take part in the vote that means they understand it. If you are confused, or don't understand the question, don't take part in it! > = Will it rain tomorrow? and Do you think it will rain tomorrow? Are entirely different... OK never mind. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
Werner, both "Do you think?" and Will there be?" are both forms of questions. I'm assuming if people take part in the vote that means they understand it. If you are confused, or don't understand the question, don't take part in it! - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
[AsburyPark] Belmar Google Vids of Trouble Spots
Belmar Web site lets viewers monitor "animal houses" Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/15/07 BY ERIK LARSEN COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU BELMAR Visitors to the municipal Web site now are able to zoom in on a Google satellite picture or map of the borough's 320 summer rental homes to a street-level view of the animal houses. At http://www.belmar.com/rentals/map.asp?Cat=1 visitors can click on a specific address and up will come details about a property, which will enable visitors to keep tabs on the legal status of rentals designated as "animal houses'' in Belmar. Visitors can even see where police and Sheriff's officers are positioned, per icons in the form of "The Simpsons'' character Chief Clancy Wiggum. Text Size:|| E-mail Print Subscribe E-mail Alerts Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New poll for AsburyPark
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > > Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the > AsburyPark group: > > Madisoni Marquette said No... Will there still be a Carousel in the Carousel > building? > == Charlie, your poll questions are a bit strange. You word them as if people could predict the future. "Will there be...?"makes no sense. How about - 'Do you think there will be...?' or 'Would you like there to be...?' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] New poll for AsburyPark
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the AsburyPark group: Madisoni Marquette said No... Will there still be a Carousel in the Carousel building? o No o Yes o No. It's very clear... o Yes. I still think there may be a way... o I don't care either way. To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/surveys?id=2522509 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's some math for the weekend: > > 1. Acre in Elberon is running around $3.5-$5.0 per 1 acre on the > Ocean, and there's nothing for sale. Kushner piad $4.0m for a house > in front of his to knock down. > > 2. They were selling psocards of AP (3in x 5 inch) for $8.00 > > What cost more per sq in? Land in Asbury, or an $8.00 postcard? > The postcard comes to $76.80/sf. Is that buildable sf? ;) Depends on where the land is. What's the plot size of Esperanza? I tried to do buildable at one point but didn't have the total sf they were building. I figure 350,000 sf based on average of 1,500 sf/unit at 224 units plus 7% add-on for common/gross (actually closer to 360,000). If you use $17.1 (upfront payment) its $49/sf. Then you can add $4.5M for infrastructure which ups it. Let's not forget 7% of sales kicker. Remember, the pro forma showed a total cost of $33M for the land, or roughly double the above. So, like everything else in AP, its who's set of "facts" you want to use. BTW, I didn't ask, was that a waterfront postcard or inland? Couldn't wait until the weekend, I have pay work then. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
> Chetrit buying BCH. "Joe, there's no room at the inn." Don't worry, > I'll buy some place where you can stay. > Much cheaper then paying $10m just for land on the ocean, then 2 years for an architect and 4 years to build just a house. And the kids each get their own room. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
I'd just wiat and see what they do at the BCH. The Deal Casino (beach club) is getting a multi-millon $ makeover over the next 5 years. Getting a steak house as well whcih is opening next week. Why? Oceanfront. Here's some math for the weekend: 1. Acre in Elberon is running around $3.5-$5.0 per 1 acre on the Ocean, and there's nothing for sale. Kushner piad $4.0m for a house in front of his to knock down. 2. They were selling psocards of AP (3in x 5 inch) for $8.00 What cost more per sq in? Land in Asbury, or an $8.00 postcard? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
OceanPlace also does tons of those "home shows" and business conferences to get people year round. I agree that the Berkeley will most likely start advertising on a good scale, but so far the two hotels seem to rely on the word of mouth more than anything. The Berkeley seems to do well with weddings and stuff. I can't see why a new hotel wouldn't be a success. People seem to forget all of the uses that a hotel has and the advantages of a hotel by the beach are enormous. Imagine: 1) weddings 2) business conferences 3) beach and summer travelers 4) event goers spending the night for concerts 5) the simple addition of being the newest hotel (and most likely the most state-of-the-art, clean, nice features, etc.) There's more than enough reasons for it to be a success imo. On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:55 PM, oakdorf wrote: The only hotel that I've seen advertise on a > decent level is the Ocean Place in Long Branch and that always has > plenty of cars there. Ocean Place is booked from June 15 to labor day. They cater to their clients from NY/Brooklyn.
[AsburyPark] madison PR June 14 - "EXPERIENCE ASBURY"
ASBURY PARK, N.J., June 14 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Madison Marquette announced today the formation of Experience Asbury, a joint venture with Asbury Partners to redevelop and revitalize the entire Asbury Park boardwalk. The formation coincides with the commencement of major improvement projects, including the rehabilitation of the famed Paramount Theatre and Convention Hall. (Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20070614/DCTH048 ) "Summer 2007 marks the return of Asbury Park as a preeminent cultural, dining, shopping and beach recreation destination," said Gary Mottola, President of Madison Marquette Investments, the managing partner of the new joint venture. The redevelopment zone stretches over 1.25 miles of oceanfront property and includes Asbury Park's historic boardwalk, pavilions, Casino Building and Paramount Theatre and Convention Hall. Paramount Theatre Rehabilitation Madison Marquette is near completion of a historic rehabilitation of the historic Paramount Theatre. A grand reopening celebration is scheduled for Friday, June 29 and will feature the debut of "Attention Span of a Fly," an original performance from Kennedy Center Award-Winning New Jersey playwright, Ben Clawson. Larry Potter of Landmark Studio in Pittstown, New Jersey, is completing the theater's restoration. The 1,500-seat venue was originally built in 1930 and placed on the National Register of Historic Places in 1979. It was designed by the famed architecture firm of Warren and Wetmore and was widely considered one of the most magnificent theaters of the early 20th century. Anchoring the North end of the Asbury Park boardwalk, it is an enduring symbol of the city's rich history and culture. This summer the Paramount will house a variety of live performances. A new in-residence theatre company, Park Players, will host a series of plays. Christopher Barker, Executive Director of Highlands Regional Playhouse in Allendale, New Jersey has founded the theatre company with his brother, Jonathan Barker. "We were so excited about the restoration of this theater and the entire boardwalk area that we created Park Players," said Christopher Barker. New Jersey's Metro Lyric Opera is sponsoring an opera series at Paramount Theatre that includes two performances, Traviata on July 21 and Barber of Seville on August 4. Additional individual concerts and events are scheduled throughout the season. "The Paramount Theatre is once again the center of Asbury Park's cultural life," said Mr. Mottola. "These performances will breathe important new life into summer nights at the boardwalk." New Retail and Dining Options Madison Marquette is adding several new retail and dining options for boardwalk patrons this summer. In the former Howard Johnson's building, successful restaurateur Gabe Marabella has opened Salt Water Beach Cafe, a relaxed beach concept serving an upscale American menu. Outdoor seating allows guests to enjoy the beach and boardwalk while dining and 'Boardwalk Menu' allows beachgoers to satisfy their hunger without losing any time in the sun. "Asbury Park is officially reborn and I am looking forward to helping usher in a new era," said Mr. Marabella, an experienced restaurateur best known for his Marabella's Restaurants in Philadelphia and southern New Jersey shore area. New retail options include: Hot Sand, a glass-blowing artisan; Brielle Cyclery, a bicycle shop; Cabana Club, a new entertainment club; Casa Di Formaggio, a panini sandwich shop; and the Beach Bar. "These great additions are just the beginning of our efforts to repopulate the oceanfront with exciting new dining and retail offerings," said Mr. Mottola. Landscaping and Pavilion Improvements Experience Asbury has already made significant improvements to the landscaping and physical appearance of the Asbury Park oceanfront area. A park-like setting has been created with green spaces now filling the areas between the pavilions. Flowers and additional seating are also featured. In front of the Paramount Theatre, a plaza has been created with custom brick-work and ample seating where live music will be performed throughout the summer. A portion of the Casino Building has also now been opened to allow for passageway on the boardwalk. A beatification program has been implemented for the pavilions and several surrounding buildings. "The improvements are a fundamental part of making Asbury Park a special destination," said Mr. Mottola. "They signify our commitment to Asbury Park and are just a preview of the exciting changes now afoot." Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only hotel that I've seen advertise on a > > decent level is the Ocean Place in Long Branch and that always has > > plenty of cars there. > > Ocean Place is booked from June 15 to labor day. > > They cater to their clients from NY/Brooklyn. > Chetrit buying BCH. "Joe, there's no room at the inn." Don't worry, I'll buy some place where you can stay. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
The only hotel that I've seen advertise on a > decent level is the Ocean Place in Long Branch and that always has > plenty of cars there. Ocean Place is booked from June 15 to labor day. They cater to their clients from NY/Brooklyn. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
I agree Tommy. I think this is clearly a victory for those who wish to see more tourism/entertainment in the plan. It's kind of funny seeing the same people who boasted about the success of their residential plan ideas now boasting about the success of the tourism angle... I think the hotel could be a much better success than people are thinking. There are VERY FEW hotels along the shore of Monmouth County these days. The only hotel that I've seen advertise on a decent level is the Ocean Place in Long Branch and that always has plenty of cars there. Let's say the new hotel advertises on a similar national/regional level - that would bring people back to Asbury and back into looking at hotel prices in the area which could lead to more visitors at the other hotels as well. If marketed correctly, people that were planning on coming to a town like Belmar (maybe for the Seafood Festival) might stay in Asbury rather than a hotel in Wall. Hotels are needed to make the tourism idea work and the existence of a new hotel would also force the idea of entertainment into play. On Jun 13, 2007, at 6:53 PM, justifiedright wrote: I'm with you, Chuck. The division here was always between the people that like the current residential plan and the people that wanted a mixed use with more tourism/entertainment thrown in. This latest development is a turn toward the tourism side. I expected this news to be heralded here as a victory for the tourism/entertainment folks.
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 "Johns" arrested in AP yesterday
living wage?? Many live here making good $. Union? They have their own. Everyone wants $15 PER HOUR, CASH. Cleaning ladies want even more. There is no such thing as a $10 hour guy any more. If you do find one, you need 2, cause they work HALF as hard. So you take your tenant to court, later find out they are here illegally. They have a court interperter. Bingo, they know the law(s), their rights (like not to pay rent). They can't get section 8 or any other help to pay their housing (that I am aware of ), but given a number to call "to get sponsored". That way, they get all those goodies. You have landlords you make a bundle off these guys. Then you have schmuck landlords you look for a good normal tenant and hope they pay. nice guys they say... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Speaking of Rising Interest rates
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/2ecf6y > Same stuff on CNN this am. In this article, it quotes an women who backed out of a deal because of the rate creep would cost her $500 more/month. This is why before something is 'sold', the buyer had to show up. It's not just PR or sold stickers. >From Rentlaw.com, May 2005, with GREENSPAN - on the predicted bubble... http://www.rentlaw.com/news/2005/bubble05.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Speaking of TAXES
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Take a guy whose home is only assessed at 223,000 (but paid more then > twice that). They pay around $9600 in taxes. Sounds familiar to me. You're not suggesting "welcome stranger"? > 2)MOST ALL the taxes you pay today are spent by the municipality. > ZIPPO school taxes (for arguments sake). That is what is criminal. What waste! What you leave out of the equation is the tax rate. What matters is the tax you pay. Forget the assessment and or the rate, because the combination of the two result in the taxes. What matters is how much revenue you must have. There is a number and then you have to get it from taxes. Stop them from spending and wasting money. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 "Johns" arrested in AP yesterday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No one is suggesting that people be encouraged to enter the country > illegally. Yes they are. Many cities are declaring themselves "sanctuary cities" were the police and judges are instructed not to ask about immigration status. George Bush is dangling amnesty for prior tax evasion and automatic citizenship as a reward for breaking the law and coming here illegally. Sure sounds like he is encourging them to enter the country illegally to me. > While there are laws the penalize companies for employing > illegals, they are simply a slap on the wrist. If you really want >to > stop it, then throw the employer in jail instead of fining him. Agreed. When can we start? > The father of one of my daughters students just got deported for >being > undocumented. That is the correct term, not illegal. Semantics. Under NJ Law, drunk driving is not a felony so it is not designated as a crime. It's still "illegal." So is being here against the immigration laws. >So now the mother > is stuck here with her many children, all of whom were born in this > country, without support. Anchor babies? If so, that's a huge loophole in our immigration laws that needs to close. >BTW, the husband has never been in trouble > with the law and works. Me too, but the President isn't offering me amnesty for not paying my income taxes. > A century and more ago, American businesses advertised for >workers "in > Europe. That is how many of us came to be. America has an historic > love affair with cheap labor. Agreed. A certain political party argued in the 1860's to keep slavery for economic reasons. Now both parties are trying to keep a permenant, low wage slave class here too, at the expense of working class Blacks who can't ask for a living wage. Many of the illegal Mexicans aren't intrested in a living wage - they live 30 in a house, send the money back to Mexico and retire there in a few years because the exchange rate is so favorable. Don't take my word for it. Read up on Cesar Chaves, a left wing hero who organized the fruit laborers in California. He was a constant fighter against illegal immigration from Mexico because it allowed employers to not pay a living wage to American workers. Can't we learn from our own recent history? > I am not condoning the johns' actions, although I certainly can > sympathize with some of their likely plights of being in a strange > country all alone without a mate after working who knows how many > hours all to send some money home. The unwillingness to assimilate is their problem, not mine. >Prostitution is a problem here in > AP for other reasons. End our suspense.. > The insanity of making it illegal. Will we never learn? I know a nice town in Nevada you can live in. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Speaking of Rising Interest rates
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[AsburyPark] Speaking of TAXES
How about RASINING your taxes by 85%. Then you come up with what you should be paying in taxes IF you actually paid your fair share of school taxes. Take a guy whose home is only assessed at 223,000 (but paid more then twice that). They pay around $9600 in taxes. Imagine paying a fair share of school tax. So BEFORE you agree tp a 5% hike in your taxes, realize: 1)Your property is under assessed (sure, the rate will change, but never, never equal. There is always a bump). 2)MOST ALL the taxes you pay today are spent by the municipality. ZIPPO school taxes (for arguments sake). 3)ONLY 1.5% of the current tax roll is assessed OVER 150,000. I use current, because the condos have yet to hit the county tax roll. 5% today of $150,000 will be 5% hike in 2010, when "the average home is assessed at $300k.think. 5% today might be 1/2 tank gas today in your tank. in 2010, it might be a hot dog on the boardwalk. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] back to Henry Winsor
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Keady Report - New Blog Posts
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is a public park. Privacy is for your own home. We also have crime > issues. Again, stop wasting time, No grandstanding, GET IT DONE > > Raise the taxes 12% (5% to cover budget / 5% more police / 2% Cameras). == Glad you have money to burn Most folks don't. Reducing waste and increasing efficiency should be the priority. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Sometimes the evil that you can see is less dangerous. At least in AP you know you should have your wits about you. Prosecutor: Howell coach possessed porn Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/15/07 BY SHRUTI L. MATHUR STAFF WRITER HOWELL A youth league softball coach was charged Wednesday with knowingly possessing child pornography, according to the Morris County Prosecutor's Office. Ronald V. Gravius Jr., 40, of Howell, had images stored on a DVD of "reproductions of a child engaged in a prohibited sexual act or in the simulation of such an act," according to Paul Kallberg, deputy chief for the Morris County prosecutor. Gravius was summoned to appear in state Superior Court, Morris County, on June 19, but was not brought into custody. Gravius has been suspended from his coaching position. A woman who answered the door at his home Thursday night said he was not home. Bruce Turner, president of the Howell Girls Softball League where Gravius coached a team, said he heard of the charges Thursday afternoon and was surprised. Turner said league officials are cooperating with authorities and plan to meet to discuss the case. The league, which has about 35 teams and 500 girls from ages 5 to 17, is a volunteer organization. Turner declined to say which team Gravius coached. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This month in Forbers
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Werner, at least KNOWS, what he's talking about! > = THANK YOU ! There's a lot to be said for being an eye-witness to events and doing independent research. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Keady Report - New Blog Posts
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is a public park. Privacy is for your own home. We also have crime issues. Again, stop wasting time, No grandstanding, GET IT DONE > Grandstanding? I don't even see your boys broaching the issue. At least someone in government speaks to constituents. > Raise the taxes 12% (5% to cover budget / 5% more police / 2% Cameras). How about putting the cameras in, cutting taxes 10%, cutting tons of fat in city payroll and budget, and hiring/electing people who can manage to balance the budget after 5-6 years on the job? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] And now for some good news
TIME OF ACHIEVEMENT, PRIDE 103 Asbury Park High School seniors reach "special moment" Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 06/15/07 Congrats to the students and their families for keeping their eyes on the prize. Education IS the only way out. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Keady Report - New Blog Posts
It is a public park. Privacy is for your own home. We also have crime issues. Again, stop wasting time, No grandstanding, GET IT DONE Raise the taxes 12% (5% to cover budget / 5% more police / 2% Cameras). - Original Message From: dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 11:09:20 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The Keady Report - New Blog Posts --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Allan Peterson wrote: > > I find it ridiculous that this issue would be debated. There are crime issues and the cameras are needed. If anyone needs to question this, then they are out of touch with the community and wasting time. There is no need to post a blog for discussion. It needs to be done and rather than wasting time talking, DO IT! Personally I am for it, but if you think that there are no privacy issues and that no thought needs to go into it then you my friend are the one that is out of touch. That same attitude led to Gitmo. Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 "Johns" arrested in AP yesterday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the Judge inquired of the immigration status of each defendant, and > notifed Homeland Security of anyone who is illegally here, I'm thinking > we would be rid of a great many of those in that article who were > arrested. > No one is suggesting that people be encouraged to enter the country illegally. However, this country, including its government, citizens and business leaders, have to stop being two-faced on the immigration issue. Businesses are encouraged and permitted to attract illegal immigrants. While there are laws the penalize companies for employing illegals, they are simply a slap on the wrist. If you really want to stop it, then throw the employer in jail instead of fining him. The father of one of my daughters students just got deported for being undocumented. That is the correct term, not illegal. So now the mother is stuck here with her many children, all of whom were born in this country, without support. BTW, the husband has never been in trouble with the law and works. A century and more ago, American businesses advertised for workers in Europe. That is how many of us came to be. America has an historic love affair with cheap labor. I am not condoning the johns' actions, although I certainly can sympathize with some of their likely plights of being in a strange country all alone without a mate after working who knows how many hours all to send some money home. Prostitution is a problem here in AP for other reasons. The insanity of making it illegal. Will we never learn? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Keady Report - New Blog Posts
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find it ridiculous that this issue would be debated. There are crime issues and the cameras are needed. If anyone needs to question this, then they are out of touch with the community and wasting time. There is no need to post a blog for discussion. It needs to be done and rather than wasting time talking, DO IT! Personally I am for it, but if you think that there are no privacy issues and that no thought needs to go into it then you my friend are the one that is out of touch. That same attitude led to Gitmo. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 "Johns" arrested in AP yesterday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd pay more for a meal, but I'm willing to make the investment. > Mexicans stay in my book. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Keady Report - New Blog Posts
I find it ridiculous that this issue would be debated. There are crime issues and the cameras are needed. If anyone needs to question this, then they are out of touch with the community and wasting time. There is no need to post a blog for discussion. It needs to be done and rather than wasting time talking, DO IT! - Original Message From: oakdorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:40:01 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The Keady Report - New Blog Posts --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "vinny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote: > > > Here's a presentation about surveillance using CCTV: > Here's another. City perception to the real world. Crime. Gangs. Drugs. Police Stats YTD. EVERYWHERE. Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469
[AsburyPark] Re: Should We Make Cuts to the Proposed 2007 Municipal Budget?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > =charge us $1.00 for every message posted on this board. > > Put advertising on the city website. > > Pretend the city is an airline, and ask each employee to give back a % > of their pay. > > Ask each employee, if it were their money, who would they fire. > > Kind of like apprentice meets survivor. > Huh? Pretend the city is an airline, and ask each employee to give back a % of their pay. This will go over like a lead balloon! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This month in Forbers
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For Werner - This month's Forbes "Thoughts on Business" (quotes) > > Study Men, Not Historians. > - Henry Truman > > History Repeats itself. Historians repeat each other. > - > > Hang in there WB. > History Repeats itself. Historians repeat each other. - Ad, they plaigerize, then think it's THEIR, original thought, until CAUGHT! Ask Goodwin and the now deceased, Stephen Ambrose, who wore "themed" clothing, never served, but who wrote "Band of Brothers" and was mainly responsible, for the WWII Museum, in New Orleans! Werner, at least KNOWS, what he's talking about! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 "Johns" arrested in AP yesterday
I think they should make these guys do communtity service and have them clean up the area's where the pro's do their business. And they should where bright orange vests with the word JOHN on the back of it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > If the Judge inquired of the immigration status of each > > defendant, and > > > > notifed Homeland Security of anyone who is illegally here, I'm > > thinking > > > > we would be rid of a great many of those in that article who > > were > > > > arrested. > > > > > > > interesting proposal, maybe someone will attend court that day and > let us know what happens, some on this bd. have posted the judge is to > soft on issues like this, lets see what happens, werner are you > scheduled to be there that day? > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 18 "Johns" arrested in AP yesterday
- > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > wrote: > > > > > > If the Judge inquired of the immigration status of each > defendant, and > > > notifed Homeland Security of anyone who is illegally here, I'm > thinking > > > we would be rid of a great many of those in that article who > were > > > arrested. > > > > > interesting proposal, maybe someone will attend court that day and let us know what happens, some on this bd. have posted the judge is to soft on issues like this, lets see what happens, werner are you scheduled to be there that day? > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Dirty Old Men
In a message dated 6/14/2007 11:58:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is great news that the names of the johns are being published!...Because we have a parking area away from our building, we have a good place for the hookers to bring their johns to do what they doWe have called the police department and they have sent cars to our parking area, and have found them in "action" so to speakPrinting the names of the "johns" is the way to go as well as the "ladies of the night (day)!... We are going to start taking photos of the car tags and press charges agints them! To be "fair and balanced," here are more published criminal elements causing major problems for this and other struggling cities. _Click here: The Periodic Table of Criminal Elements_ (http://www.horse-you-rode-in-on.com/periodic/) _Click here: The Periodic Table of Criminal Elements (Cheat Sheet)_ (http://www.horse-you-rode-in-on.com/periodic/names.html) NRN ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
[AsburyPark] Freehold likely to receive additional state aid | Asbury
_Click here: APP.COM - Freehold likely to receive additional state aid | Asbury Park Press Online_ (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070614/NEWS/706140391/1004/NEWS01) 9 districts granted aid Freehold is one of nine underperforming school districts, the only one in Monmouth and Ocean counties, to receive some of the $2.9 million the state agreed to apportion to districts. The criteria for qualifying were that spending fell below the thorough and efficient education threshold, and insufficient yearly progress under the federal No Child Left Behind Act. Freehold needs it more than us?? Huh? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
