[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place
i hear ya jack...i ve been staring at the box on my desk for the past...eek 5 or 6 horas. but i am happy with what i got done. no tv for me. you will like adbusters http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/80 particularly the current issue...i couldn't find a page on the site that had a big picture, but you'll see it. a huge male muffin top belly with the words "Freedom from Want" just above it. wanting wanting wanting. a better body, more sex, more food, distraction, money, a bigger house...its exhausting. and it makes our economy go round and round. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place
Yeah, an asset purchase created because many of us thought that owning a McMansion that we couldn't afford was a great idea. While this whole debacle is going on, we're ignoring the fact that responsible taxpayers, like myself, are paying for other people's greed and stupidity. When are we going to wake up and realize that our obsession with "stuff" and material possession is at the core of our failure? This bailout is no different then having our entire country declare bankruptcy because of our own, self created, stupidity. Meanwhile, how many of us are even paying attention? I bet several million are watching balls being thrown around. Several more million are watching "Desperate Housewives" They are living the American Dream while being blissfully unaware of reality. Speaking of the American Dream, go take a trip to Wegmans, or your favorite local grocery store. Note how many fat assed citizens are filling their shopping carts with crap food. Is this the best we can do? The box that sits in our living rooms, called TV, seduces our masses into heading to places like "Olive Garden" and "Lobster House" and all the other shit food chains that are swelling our waistlines and shortening our lives, while those same fat assed masses are letting somebody else take care of their problems, blissfully unaware of them? We have become a culture of people that stare at boxes on our desks and living rooms... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i know what you mean. but from a trading point of view your buying > debt. and its value, as i said before is dependent on the ability of > the people to repay. i understand the government could make money. > > > so, now where did i say i was smarter than everyone else? > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place
Yeah, an asset purchase created because many of us thought that owning a McMansion that we couldn't afford was a great idea. While this whole debacle is going on, we're ignoring the fact that responsible taxpayers, like myself, are paying for other people's greed and stupidity. When are we going to wake up and realize that our obsession with "stuff" and material possession is at the core of our failure? This bailout is no different then having our entire country declare bankruptcy because of our own, self created, stupidity. Meanwhile, how many of us are even paying attention? I bet several million are watching balls being thrown around. Several more million are watching "Desperate Housewives" The are living the American Dream while being blissfully unaware of reality. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" > wrote: > > > in no way did i assert i was smarter than anyone (are you sure > you're > > not just pissed cuz i found something to back up the debt thing?) > > I don't care how many bad reporters you can dig up that call it a > purchase of debt. Shame on their editors for running it. > > Let's take a closer look: > > Assume I'm buying your business. > > Your business owes money to a bank. > After I buy your business, I now owe that money to the bank.' > > That would be a debt purchase. You had a debt owed, and I purchased > it. > > Now assume someone owed money to your business (like an account > recievable). > > After I buy your business, they owe the money to me. That's an asset > purchase. > > Now apply that to the mortgage situation. > > The government is buying the accounts receivables of the banks (money > people owe to them - an asset). The government is not buying debts > the banks owe to other people (their debts). > > The bad reporters are thinking of this from the point of view of the > people who owe the money to the banks. To those people it is a debt, > because they owe. > > The government is not buying a thing from them. > > This is an ASSET PURCHASE, not a DEBT PURCHASE. > > In fact, in the end, if all goes well, the government will make money > off the deal (time will tell). > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place
i know what you mean. but from a trading point of view your buying debt. and its value, as i said before is dependent on the ability of the people to repay. i understand the government could make money. so, now where did i say i was smarter than everyone else? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > in no way did i assert i was smarter than anyone (are you sure you're > not just pissed cuz i found something to back up the debt thing?) I don't care how many bad reporters you can dig up that call it a purchase of debt. Shame on their editors for running it. Let's take a closer look: Assume I'm buying your business. Your business owes money to a bank. After I buy your business, I now owe that money to the bank.' That would be a debt purchase. You had a debt owed, and I purchased it. Now assume someone owed money to your business (like an account recievable). After I buy your business, they owe the money to me. That's an asset purchase. Now apply that to the mortgage situation. The government is buying the accounts receivables of the banks (money people owe to them - an asset). The government is not buying debts the banks owe to other people (their debts). The bad reporters are thinking of this from the point of view of the people who owe the money to the banks. To those people it is a debt, because they owe. The government is not buying a thing from them. This is an ASSET PURCHASE, not a DEBT PURCHASE. In fact, in the end, if all goes well, the government will make money off the deal (time will tell). Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and yes i know there are lots of > lucid exchanges sandpiper, but you must admit that something that > strays too much from the comfort zone is attacked... No argument there. I was just trying to steer things back to the discussion about buildings. ;) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place
> Go back and look at her post. She asserts everyone else isn't as > smart as she is. > > So who's nasty? > ok tommy this is what i wrote... "well yeah...thats what i would love to have a more intelligent conversation about but it seems i am somewhat alone. why are american citizens so reluctant to dig a little deeper? why so ready to talk about crumbling cement blocks with a face on it and being out 50 cents? are most simply what i wrote about in my last tcn piece "American Plebs"? concerned about issues only when it affects them directly. in awe of mediocre leadership as long as it pretends to listen to them? i had forgotten that there is a budget committee. what are they doing? it seems to me that a citizen committee would have as a primary goal the education of the citizens. making the budget accessible to non wonks." in no way did i assert i was smarter than anyone (are you sure you're not just pissed cuz i found something to back up the debt thing?) i said i was alone in wanting a more intelligent and in depth discussion of the budget. that could quite possibly make me less intelligent than anyone here. did i allow my frustration at the general lack of citizen involvement come through too much? definitely, but just as it is annoying to listen to a friend complain about a destructive relationship again and again, i get frustrated with all the whining about so many things in this town and see little genuine dialog, idea sharing and discussion of the leadership on this board. i have been thinking that it could be that people are afraid of going on the record questioning the leadership...its easy to rail on hank paulson, but chances are you wouldn't be invited to the Fed Ball anyway...now the mayors ball??...or maybe people are afraid they will need a favor from someone someday, or their relative or friend will take heat etc...or maybe they are afraid they will end up in jail like werner. if that were the case, it wouldn't be surprising. this is NJ, thats how politics operate here. its a disease we don't even know we have. and its Un-American. yes newbee...it is a strange and wonderful place. your post was a fresh breeze in a stuffy place...and yes i know there are lots of lucid exchanges sandpiper, but you must admit that something that strays too much from the comfort zone is attacked...i haven't been called so many names since i was a chubby 5th grader. thank god i was prepared. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "New Beetoap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then someone wants to talk about city economics and ends up getting > cursed at and called elitist. (some very nasty people on the group) You're being selective. Go back and look at her post. She asserts everyone else isn't as smart as she is. So who's nasty? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Virginia Plan
Another perfectly lucid post. This is good. So, to arcman's point about it being worthwhile to rehabilitate the Virginia only if you could raise the rents to market rate (I'm presuming from his post that they're not at the moment, but I don't honestly know), would you advocate returning that building to market rate status? And, if yes, what about Jack's point about "moving all the people out"? Presumably, that would include at least some folks not engaged in illicit activity but who couldn't afford the market rate. Where do they go and who is responsible for helping them find alternative housing? I'm also curious about arcman's point here: "Elevators, corridor widths, ceiling heights, plumbing, electrical, fire protection, among countless other things would need to be replaced and retrofitted to meet codes and standards of luxury". Did the renderings to which you referred address those aspects? Who drew them up? Beyond that, it's been reported that both apartment and office buildings, particularly those constructed in the early 20th Century, have contributed at least as much, if not more, than automobiles to the total greehouse gas emissions in the United States. Would/could a rehab of the Virginia and/or Jersey include making them far more energy efficient so that they emit much less greenhouse gases (while also saving the owner a ton of $$$ on both heating and cooling costs)? BTW, hopefully it's obvious, but I'm not asking any of these questions out of a preconceived opinion. I don't know enough about the building to have one, so that's why I'm asking in the first place. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And several significant misrepresentations of rehabiltation are made. > Buildings are rehabilitated and brought up to modern uses regularly. As > evidences by the countless 100+ year old homes in the city brought back > to life in recent years. > > The argument that 'old' can not be made viable holds no water based > upon local and national trends. > > Unless a building has serious structural or environmental defects that > are cost prohibitive to correct, a rehabilitation is certaily worth > exploring. > > In regards to that block, the 3 buildings (Virginia, Jersey, Britwood), > are significant representatives of a high point in the development of > Asbury Park (roaring 20s). > > In fact, one has been restored/rehabed and is a viable ratable. another > has the exterior restored but is prohibired from completion due to > myopic planning. > > Both of those were vacant with caved in roofs and are now very nice > architectural icons that benifit the community in esthetics and tax > base. > > The Virgina is a great candidate for rehab also, renderings were > prepared several years ago showing the restoration of the large > porches/balconies that were removed years ago. > > Only poor planning and land use policies have prevented the > improvement/rehab/restoration of the Virginia and Jersey. > > Werner > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandpiper15" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "New Beetoap" wrote: > > > A suggestion is made to demolish a building because 'bad people' are > > there - leading to name calling when someone says the idea should > > really be thought out more. (its not the buildings fault) > > With in all that, however, there was this rather lucid and worthwhile > exchange: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/40256 > And several significant misrepresentations of rehabiltation are made. Buildings are rehabilitated and brought up to modern uses regularly. As evidences by the countless 100+ year old homes in the city brought back to life in recent years. The argument that 'old' can not be made viable holds no water based upon local and national trends. Unless a building has serious structural or environmental defects that are cost prohibitive to correct, a rehabilitation is certaily worth exploring. In regards to that block, the 3 buildings (Virginia, Jersey, Britwood), are significant representatives of a high point in the development of Asbury Park (roaring 20s). In fact, one has been restored/rehabed and is a viable ratable. another has the exterior restored but is prohibired from completion due to myopic planning. Both of those were vacant with caved in roofs and are now very nice architectural icons that benifit the community in esthetics and tax base. The Virgina is a great candidate for rehab also, renderings were prepared several years ago showing the restoration of the large porches/balconies that were removed years ago. Only poor planning and land use policies have prevented the improvement/rehab/restoration of the Virginia and Jersey. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: APP: Security Cameras
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hopefully, they'll catch the ones who bring > the drugs into our community. Or, conversely, maybe they'll catch the customers coming in from the rest of the county. Illicit or not, narcotics are a commodity. There's no supply without a demand. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What a strange place
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "New Beetoap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A suggestion is made to demolish a building because 'bad people' are > there - leading to name calling when someone says the idea should > really be thought out more. (its not the buildings fault) With in all that, however, there was this rather lucid and worthwhile exchange: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/40256 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Consequences from Wall Street to Asbury Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Easy girl! I don't want this plan either. > > But someone on this board accused we small town American folk of a > lack of intellectualism. At the same time, she referred to the plan > as us taking on debt. > > It's not a debt purchase, it's an asset purchase. > > Just because I don't like the plan doesn't give me permission to > mislabel it. > > I just wanted to prove a point to the "intellectualist" who demeaned > my fellow Americans (like you and me). maybe this is why I thought it was debt we were buying...the NYT seems to think it is as well... "WASHINGTON Congressional leaders and the Bush administration reached a tentative agreement early Sunday on what may become the largest financial bailout in American history, authorizing the Treasury to purchase $700 billion in troubled debt from ailing firms in an extraordinary intervention to prevent widespread economic collapse." Here's your piece... "In some cases, the government would receive an equity stake in companies that seek aid, allowing taxpayers to profit should the rescue plan work and the private firms flourish in the months and years ahead." http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/business/28bailout.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: APP: Security Cameras
I'm going to assume, she lives in the North-western portion of the West Side. I'm sure she doesn't live on Prospect and Bangs Ave. All the same, in the predominantly Black sector, the cameras are to keep US on our toes! A camera SHOULD have been placed there, decades ago, thwarting the many shootings in that area, that no matter what is done, it still looks bombed out! Right by the Middle School too. I'm just admitting that the majority of the cameras are placed in the Black Community is all. Hopefully, they'll catch the ones who bring the drugs into our community. Small time drug dealers are a dime a dozen. Who brings the drugs into the Black Community and why? We all know that reason without being fecetious! It's your government, running drugs into this country and always has. Under Bill Clinton, a plane crashed in Arkansas, filled with illicit drugs. Anyone remember Hasenfus? He was the pilot. Google it and see. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My sweet Irish mother lives on the West Side. Leave the cameras > there. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" > wrote: > > > > I notice, many are being mounted in the Black community. Wonder > what > > THEY have to say. Big Brother? You bet! Thwart crime? Ditto. > > Whatever it takes, but make sure a camera is placed on Kingsley > Ave., > > where all of the "solicitation" allegedly takes place and one > camera > > in the park, where vandalism is a normal occurance! > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Consequences from Wall Street to Asbury Park
In a message dated 9/27/2008 6:23:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Mario" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any knowledeable insights in this group. Preferably some positive spin, if that's possible, among all this doom and gloom? That's why you should always know how to paint, fix a leak, cut your own grass everyone is excess, even if you work for yourself. I can and have done all of the above. But my initial post wasn't about me. I wanted to know how municipal services in Asbury Park will fare after reading September 27, 2008. From NYT Business, p.7: http://tinyurl.com/3tnamz _http://tinyurl.com/3tnamz_ (http://tinyurl.com/3tnamz) But so were cities and counties that rely on short-term notes to pay for routine operations while waiting for tax revenues to arrive, leaving them to search for other financing. Among the $6 billion in new municipal debt issues anticipated at the beginning of the week, only about $100 million actually came to the market, and the rest was postponed… (Excerpt from link above.) **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Berkley
Figure that I'd go straight to the source of AP info. I haven't been able to get to the shore in a couple of seasons and while I use this group to keep informed ... What's the "state" of the Berkley? I know that there was some "renovation" in the past couple of years. The few times I was there in the past you had to balance the convienence against cost. The "condition" of the place left a little to be desired as well. What's the scoop, folks? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] What a strange place
Been lurking for a while and can only think - WTF ??? A politics discussion gets the group on moderated status (didn't your moms ever tell you not to discuss politics or religion? - too volatile in a group setting) Then someone wants to talk about city economics and ends up getting cursed at and called elitist. (some very nasty people on the group) A suggestion is made to demolish a building because 'bad people' are there - leading to name calling when someone says the idea should really be thought out more. (its not the buildings fault) Well heres an urban renewal comment from http://www.metropolismag.com/cda/story.php?artid=1934 -- JHK: What are your thoughts on what has happened to American cities? JJ: It's a tragedya totally unnecessary tragedy. JHK: The destruction continues. -- Is the beachfront finished yet as promised? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
