[AsburyPark] Re: Impact of Unsold Condos on AP Appraisals
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "radio881gal" wrote: "Seem reasonable? Maureen" Banks are still making mortgage loans, but lending criteria has become more rigid, and appraised values are in decline. Since so many properties under contract are problematic and time consuming "short sale" transactions... often times the contract sale price is determined to be MORE than the subject property's fair market value ... and as such, the Purchaser's mortgage lender rescinds approval which requires the parties to go back to the negotiating table taking more time as the values continue to drop. Its a bureaucratic red tape boondoggle. BPOs are also used by mortgage pool investors performing due diligence. They'll use a local broker to perform BPOs on property secured by mortgages to help form an opinion on the portfolio's underlying Loan to Value. Although loan servicers (entity who collects month payments), on ocassion, may order BPOs on performing loans... in my opinion, it doesn't happen very often. Check out SPOCH's HomeKeeper Turnkey Program @ http://www.spoch.org/HomeKeeperProgram.asp Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Impact of Unsold Condos on AP Appraisals
What a jolt of memories "The Deal Factor" Twenty-five years ago I received my appraisal training from John D. Lazurus. That name won't mean too much to the younger folks... He spoke about waterfront properties, suitcases filled with cash...tax stamps and recording fees. === A BPO would most likely be used by a budget conscious professional including a mortgage servicer, or an attorney, while a CMA (comparative market analysis) would be provided, free of charge, to a potential customer from a broker or broker's agent. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Impact of Unsold Condos on AP Appraisals
What a jolt of memories "The Deal Factor" Twenty-five years ago I received my appraisal training from John D. Lazurus. That name won't mean too much to the younger folks... He spoke about waterfront properties, suitcases filled with cash...tax stamps and recording fees. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Impact of Unsold Condos on AP Appraisals
A BPO, or Brokers Price Opinion, doesn't carry the weight of a certified appraisal, or the price tag... A BPO can be just as accurate as a full appraisal, or, riddled with inaccuracies intentional or otherwise. There are cursory drive-by BPOs, or more involved, interior BPOs. Typically, when a mortgage loan is delinquent, in deefault, or at risk of foreclosure, a BPO performed by a local real estate broker, or broker's agent, is used by a mortgage loan servicer who needs to confirm a property's occupancy status, and general market value. During the course of a mortgage loan's delinquency and foreclosure, drive-by BPOs with photo snap might be conducted monthly... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye
"How was the rest of their night?" I dropped $250 at Old Man Raffertys and each time I eat there I vow not to eat there again. Everyone else enjoyed their meal, though. After dinner, our friends were ready to leave, so we escorted them to their car... and went back to Cookman. We so enjoy it... its a shame more people don't come out. Millville, NJ has "Third Friday" and it, too, is terrific, just a longer ride. It is more artsy oriented, more working studios, and more storefronts... with huge loft areas. There must have been 20 different musical acts... all styles. Awhile back, I was invited by a bookstore/cafe for a book signing event (Fight Foreclosure!) and have been asked back this month. If I drive all the way down there for 3rd Friday, I certainly don't want to be stuck signing books... Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] A black eye
I've been encouraging my friends to set aside their preconceptions about Asbury Park, and experience First Saturday with limited success. To force participation, I offered to treat my friends to dinner this past Saturday. "You'll love it! The merchants are all open late, the sidewalks are alive, we'll usually spot Kevin Quinn playing music, and there is a police presence..." Well, we met in The Arcade on Cookman at about 6PM. We would stroll around and then dine at Raffertys. I lead the way. No sooner had we taken 20 steps out of The Arcade, I glanced back to see my "party" had been approached and then detained by two women (late teens early twenties) who were adamant about their wanting 50 cent from each of us. Unfortunately, THAT will be the experience repeated to our friends' friends. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I'll Be On Fox Tomorrow
Bring at least two forms of picture ID... FOX is very security conscious. Oh, proceeds from my book are dedicated to SPOCH, our 501c3 homeownership advocacy... which turned 10 years old today. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I'll Be On Fox Tomorrow
"Can I get a copy of your book from Barnes & Nobel and will you sign it for me?" Yes, it's (well hidden) in Barnes and Noble, as well as full size Borders, and some libraries. Tomorrow, I will donate a copy to the Asbury Park Library. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I'll Be On Fox Tomorrow
Are they sending you a limo? When I was on FOX Business TV they sent a limo for me. The limo driver eyed the various Peace symbols adorning my home and garden... and casually mentioned I was not the typical FOX guest. I explained I was invited to discuss the nation's foreclosure problem and showed him a copy of my book, Fight Foreclosure! How to cope with a mortgage you can't pay, Negotiate with your bank, and Save your home! We talked a bit, and as soon as we got onto the turnpike, he reached into his glove box and pulled out an envelope, and then handed it to me. Inside was a foreclosure summons. I gave him the copy my book. I had a three minute segment which seemed like 30 seconds. Good Luck. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I'll Be On Fox Tomorrow
Are they sending you a limo? When I was on FOX Business TV they sent a limo for me. The limo driver eyed the various Peace symbols adorning my home and garden... and casually mentioned I was not the typical FOX guest. I explained I was invited to discuss the nation's foreclosure problem and showed him a copy of my book, Fight Foreclosure! How to cope with a mortgage you can't pay, Negotiate with your bank, and Save your home! We talked a bit, and as soon as we got onto the turnpike, he reached into his glove box and pulled out an envelope, and then handed it to me. Inside was a foreclosure summons. I gave him the copy my book. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] 1st Saturday's cold stroll
We took an early evening stroll around Cookman. Had drinks at Raffertys, and dinner at Brick Wall. Brought coffee to the Kevin Quinn Trio who braved the cold to play some original music, and some covers. Visited with Tony and Michelle of the Arcade's Under The Sun. We left as it began to snow. Anybody known how long Quinn played on after that? Talk about the hardest working musician on the Jersey Shore! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] cold stroll
We took an early evening stroll around Cookman. Had drinks at Raffertys, and dinner at Brick Wall. Brough coffee to the Kevin Quinn Trio who braved the cold to play some original music, and some covers. Visited with Tony and Michelle of the Arcade's Under The Sun. We left as it began to snow. Anybody known how long Quinn played on after that? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] I deserve to lose my home!
Perhaps one third of the people I counsel who want to save their home from foreclosure are fighting an uphill, and oftentimes losing battle. When they want to fight. I help, but try to temper their expectations, and have them prepare for and accept the eventuality of relocation. Then, there are situations in which I have a reasonable expectation the homeowner can Fight Foreclosure! and keep the home. Recently, I spoke with a woman, a casual acquaintance whose home is in the early stages of foreclosure. I asked her to bring whatever documents she had pertaining to the loan's origination and mortgage foreclosure. Tearfully claiming she doesn't want to lose her home, she confessed a "friend/confidant" has convinced her saving the home is impossible and her friend (who happens to own a short sale company) is very close to negotiating a preforeclosure short sale "What choice do I have?" she asked, visibly upset and choking back tears.. If the deal is approved, this woman will have to vacate the property and find alternative/affordable housing. In my state, the foreclosure process can take about a year or more. If she did nothing, she would still have 8 or 9 months in the house before having to leave. For all I know, there will soon be a national or state moratorium on residential foreclosure adding months to the process. "Where will you go?" I asked her. "I don't know." "Doesn't it make sense to try to Fight Foreclosure! and try to keep the house?" (I run a non profit housing preservation advocacy, and in 2008 authored Fight Foreclosure! How to Cope with a mortgage you can't pay, Negotiate with your bank, and Save your home) "He said he tried but the lender refuses to modify my loan... I don't have the money to bring the loan current. The house isn't worth what I owe. I screwed up." she stated. "Have you talked to an attorney?" "No." "What have you done?" "I gave the papers to my friend (who happens to own a short sale company and deals with people in foreclosure for a living) who is helping me." MY 20+ YEAR ADVOCACY INCLUDED INVESTIGATING ALLEGATIONS OF PREDATORY LENDING PRACTICES, UNTOWARD REALTY TRANSACTIONS, AND MORTGAGE LOAN SERVICING ABUSE FOR THE MORTGAGE BANKERS ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA'S CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT. A cursory review of her loan documents indicated predatory characteristics, and I suggested we investigate the loan for compliance to Truth in Lending (TILA), RESPA, HOEPA, etc. If the loan were determined to be predatory, or made in violation to applicable state or federal lending law it would give her some leverage in seeking a loan modification... She agreed to ask her lender to provide her loan origination file to me. Based upon my experience, I concluded she had a chance at keeping her home via a cramdown loan modification. A chance. Missing from the folder she brought were the basic transaction documents needed for the "short sale" of her home: a listing agreement, contract of sale, buyer's prequalification, and the preliminary HUD1. "I don't recall signing a contract of sale..." she said, "But "he" has all the paperwork." I'll have him FAX the paperwork to you. Instead, I got a call from her "friend and confidant" who told me her situation was hopeless, and he was very close to getting a short sale approval and didn't want me to screw things up "What's the rush?" I asked him. "She is in foreclosure. The lender has refused a loan mod. This is her only option." "Well, I think the loan may be predatory, and as such, she has a chance to keep her home." "Nonsense. Her loan is from an excellent mortgage company!" "Well, I looked at the settlement statement, and I disagree. The loan, in my opinion, was unconscionable. Furthermore, as you must know, a loan in the early stages of foreclosure won't get the same attention and workout consideration from the lender as will a loan closer to Sheriffs' Sale which in this case is at least 8 or 9 months away... maybe more." "I think you screwed things up. I hope you didn't screw things up." he told me. --- (OH, BY THE WAY. I ALSO WROTE, AN ETHICAL APPROACH TO SHORT SALES IN 2006). I ask for, and he promised to FAX to me the listing agreement, contract of sale, PHUD1, etc. He didn't. Instead, I got a polite email from the woman who asked me to "back- off" because her friend would "ask again" for the lender to modify the loan. I wasn't afforded the opportunity to review the nuts and bolts of this transaction, in fact, I was denied the opportunity which raised suspicions. I have nothing invested except a little bit of time, and my compassion for anyone who is at risk of losing their home to foreclosure... But I do have some unanswered questions. Primarily, Why the rush? I also question the likely predatory nature of the mortgage in foreclosure, and who originated the questionable mortgage loan. Is there a connection
[AsburyPark] Re: Lowe's & BOE move
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may be right, but here is my source of info - [August 06, 2008] Burlington Coat Factory moving to Ocean Township, N.J. (Asbury Park Press (NJ) (KRT) Via Acquire Media NewsEdge) Aug. 6-- Empty for four years, a large retailer is moving into the former Lowe's store at Seaview Square shopping center in Ocean Township. Burlington Coat Factory has signed a lease for about 80,000 square feet, Michael O'Brien, a principal in Investcorp's real estate group, said Tuesday. Burlington Coat Factory expects to open at the end of February, said Audrey Shapiro, a spokeswoman for the retailer. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Lowe's & BOE move
At least a portion of the refurbished space will house a Burlington Coat Factory store. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One last thought...
"There you go. A business. Go buy a bunch of metal garbage cans and spray them all kinds of cool colors. Market them as as green as they may be made from recycled stuff and can always be recycled again." My neighbor bought metal trash cans thinking they would last forever. They lasted three weeks. The trash collectors have a habit of banging the cans against the truck in an effort to 'unpack' the contents. Plastic cans retain their shapre while the metal cans do not. These failed along the seams. I've got two plastic sears trash cans from 1963. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: That Other Election
"Go to a bar called "Murphy's Suds & Sawdust" in Rumson." Never heard it called anything other than Murphy's Bar, but it is located at 17 Ward Lane off East River Road. Parking is tight. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Palin / Obama
"though there is a bill lurking that proves dems to be just as hawkish...you have to be to serve corporate interests. and both parties do..."\ A duopoly? Perhaps the left and right wings of the same bird of prey? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: how the gov rescuing banks, companies and homeowners is like
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "So, here we are spending billions to spread democracy around the world, meanwhile we are approaching socialism. Nice." There is a difference between an economic system, and a polictal ideal. Our corporate controlled regime is in a global competition for markets. Democracy has nothing to do with it. Democracy means People Power. Most people are only exposed to what corporate media has labeled "Communism or Socialism" but truth be told, neither has existed, anywhere. The failed systems labeled as S or C more closely resembled capitalism than any theoretical utopian society. Lay bare the facts, ignore labels, compare, and see for yourself. If you are intellectually honest, you'll deduce we are heading further and further away from the ideals of socialism... and closer and closer to fascism. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: bad luck building?
Good Luck in your travels, Kevin. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: bad luck building?
You can validate this yourself. Check your title report from when you purchased the premises. It's possible that foreclosure action pre-dated your experience with the premises. You'll see the property was subject to foreclosure, Sheriff's Sale, and owned by a small corporation. Did you purchase the property at Sheriff's Sale, from the lender as an REO, from an investor who had just purchased the property, or from the foreclosed owner whose last name began with "L" and had several syllables. Whether or not the owner of the building physically stood behind the counter or leased the building to a shopkeeper is immaterial. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: bad luck building?
Years ago, before Kevin Brown purchased the building from which he was asked to vacate, a previous owner faced with foreclosure on that building contacted me for assistance. I seem to recall he operated a retail auto parts business. To guestimate the building's value, I was afforded a glimpse into the building's past positioned on the second floor was a prizefighters' boxing ring complete with ringside seating. That owner lost the property directly or indirectly to foreclosure. Perhaps the new owners should burn the structure... then burn the ashes twice. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: National politics on this newsgroup
Re: National politics on this newsgroup "I say with all due respect, that we are going to be effected by the choice of a new administration as long as we live in the USA and perhaps even if we don't. Jennifer" Though the duopoly and its media would like us to think there are major differences between the candidates, and the importance of our "selection" is a matter of life or death, a black or white decision, it isn't. Frankly, neither of them would be in a position to be "elected" if their allegiances to our corporate masters and their financial self-interests were not already cast in stone... Obama and McCain have been presented to us as worthy candidates by the competing capitalist owners of industry who have spent millions upon millions of dollars on their horse... but will still win irrespective of which candidate may sit in the White House. If they always win, who loses? We, The People will always lose to the corporate class no matter which candidate wins. The "game" is rigged. Only when We The People look behind the smoke screen and mirrors will we realize we CAN use our democratic system to entrust and elect candidates who will represent our collective interests... A good beginning would be to have a major third party in the mix. In that way, real issues would be exposed and discussed instead of denounced as irrelevant. For true democracy... we need to end the duopoly. Otherwise, we keep electing tweddle dumb or tweedle dee. My $.02. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: National politics on this newsgroup
"I say with all due respect, that we are going to be effected by the choice of a new administration as long as we live in the USA and perhaps even if we don't. Jennifer" Though the duopoly and its media would like us to think there are major differences between the candidates, and the importance of our "selection" is a matter of life or death, a black or white decision. But frankly, neither of them would be in a position to be "elected" if their allegiances to our corporate masters and their financial interests were not already cast in stone... Obama and McCain have been presented to us as worthy candidates by the competing capitalist owners of industry who have spent millions of dollars on their horse... but will still win irrespective of which candidate may sit in the White House. Who will lose? We, The People will always lose no matter which candidate wins. The "game" is rigged. Only when We The People look behind the smoke screen and mirrors will realize we use our democratic system to entrust and elect candidates who will represent our collective interests... My $.02. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Guardian Angels in AP
They weren't marching two abreast down Cookman, but last week I spotted a uniformed beret wearing lad on the corner across from the library helping or speaking with two older citizens. I'm not certain he was a G.A., but it seemed to us he was. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Plane crash in Minnesota
A shocker. My wife, a CPA and project accountant for a casino development company, worked with many of them, one in particular closely, in the 10 years she worked in AC. If anyone learns anything about the final arrangements, please post. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Peace At Home
Local non profit fundraiser - Peace Symbols - made from recycled cedar, perfect for planting in your garden (comes with attachable stake) or hanging on your wall. Painted in bold colors, earth tones, natural, or the ever popular tie-die. Certificate of contribution with purchase. Limited availability at Under The Sun in The Arcade.
[AsburyPark] Re: good place for dinner in AP?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "njshoregirlap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why not Market in the Middle??? Nice atmosphere and great food. Close. We ate at BrickWall, but bought a bottle of wine at Market in the Middle and peeked in. Next time we'll try it. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] good place for dinner in AP?
We've eaten at Rafferty's a couple of time. The food was OK, but need a different atmosphere. Any recommendations for a First Saturday dinner? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Lawyers succeed in delaying home foreclosures
Another issue I have is with some transaction closing attorneys who robotically close loans which may have predatory characteristics, or sign HUD1 settlement statements in violation to TILA Reg Z. I wonder how many lawyers have signed waivers from their clients such that the true nature of the loan was discussed, but the clients proceeded to borrow the money anyway despite disclosures. Not too many, I'll bet. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] event planning
Millville, NJ has a business and arts district which remains open late every third Friday of the month... The event is heavily publicized by local papers, and in every shoppe and gallery's window. The event draws what have been described as huge crowds including locals, visitors, and college kids from Glassboro (now Rowan) and Stockton. A concerted effort to revitalize the town's business and arts district. I went to the Shoppes in the Arcade's 1 year celebration two weeks ago. Does AP have any regularly scheduled events like that? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Election Poll Workers Needed!!
The long serving, and well intending workers face the physical challenge of getting up at 4AM, and not returning home until 8:30 PM with only an hour long break. They have to deal with new machines which really aren't that complicated, but challenging to them, none-the- less. I've worked a few elections myself, a floater going where I'm needed. I'm 53. The day is hard on me. At one polling place, one of the workers was in his 90's. The average worker was well past 70. My 21 year old daughter has worked several local elections and feels alienated by the 'mature' workers who, after spending 17 hours on their feet, aren't particularly sure-footed or clear headed... and aren't that receptive to the ideas of some young kid (who happened to graduate college early and will attend lawschool in the fall) which is why avoidable mistakes are commonplace, or the process is overly tedious. "I've read the manual. I've done this before. I could shut down the machines... all of them ... in less than 10 minutes. But these folks are inclined to read and reread the manual and have a consensus before doing anything. That's fine, but counterproductive." Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Election Poll Workers Needed!!
The long serving, and well intending workers face the physical challenge of getting up at 4AM, and not returning home until 8:30 PM with only an hour long break. They have to deal with new machines which really aren't that complicated, but challenging to them, none-the- less. I've worked a few elections myself, a floater going where I'm needed. I'm 53. The day is hard on me. At one polling place, one of the workers was in his 90's. My 21 year old daughter has worked several local elections and feels alienated by the 'mature' workers who, after spending 17 hours on their feet, aren't particularly sure-footed or clear headed... and aren't that receptive to the ideas of some young kid (who happened to graduate college early and will attend lawschool in the fall) which is why avoidable mistakes are commonplace. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] did anyone participate in Asbury Steve's meeting last nite?
I emailed Steve yesterday to ask if his meeting was still on for 7PM at Panera. he didn't respond which suggested he wasn't interested in having me attend, his email wasn't working properly, or it was a bust. Their mozzarella and portabella pannini is pretty good. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: eminent domain panel presentation today at 4:30
WEST LONG BRANCH: A panel discussion on eminent domain, featuring retired state Supreme Court Chief Justice James R. Zazzali, will be held at 4:30 p.m. today in Monmouth University's Wilson Hall Auditorium. The discussion titled "Redevelopment in New Jersey after Kelo and Paulsboro Now What?" also will include Long Branch Mayor Adam Schneider and attorneys involved in eminent domain issues. It is open to the public. Discussion will include the U.S. Supreme Court Kelo v. City of New London case. Staff report However, I was turned away at the door. The APP misreported, and the event is by invitation only. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] eminent domain panel presentation today at 4:30
Monmouth College's Wilson Hall and Auditorium at 4:30 today Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Asbury Steve
There is no doubt in my mind that Asbury Steve loves Asbury Park, and believes in what he says. In his run for Council, there will likely be impassioned tirades and "hate" induced observations. Jaws will drop. Eyes will widen. Heads will shake in disbelief. I wonder if any of Steve's quotes can or will be published. Can you imagine? I once gave Steve a ride to Trenton to attend an "Affordable Homes For New Jersey" rally held at the Statehouse. It was an eye widening, head shaking, and jaw dropping ride. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Asbury Steve
There will be tirades and "hate" induced observations. Jaws will drop. Eyes will widen. Heads will shake in disbelief. I wonder if any of Steve's quotes will be published. Can you imagine? I once gave Steve a ride to Trenton to attend a "Affordable Homes For New Jersey" rally held at the Statehouse. It was quite a ride. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Group steals bike from bicyclist in Asbury Park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If the good guys carried guns, this wouldn't happen. remember what Archie said when describing how he would eliminate skyjacking, "Youse arm all the passengers as they get on board, and collect the rods on their way out. Nobody would dare pull a skyjacking if everybody carried guns. Case closed!" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Haulin Oats
We were lucky to have seats in the orchestra pitt. It was terrific! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Haulin Oats
I understand there will be a performance in the Paramount tonite. Is the heat working? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: PEE WEE
I thought a sissy bar was on a Harley, not a social club. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: PEE WEE
Sissy Bars. Could be Georgies, or on the back of a Harley. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Main Street Revitalized by Renovations of Old Theaters
I recall a few years back a successful movie theater owner/manager was approached (I don't know who approached him) to renovate an underperforming/derelict theater in AP to restore it to its original stature. The catch? He would have to build, open and manage a movie theater in Niagra Falls, NY. Netflix, Blockbuster, etc. has challenged the industry. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The "Mortgage Crisis" Report to the U.S. Conference of M...
For lack of a better word, "The Government" is pressuring (sorta like a non-binding resolution) the loan servicing industry to freeze foreclosure proceedings and then to modify loans at risk of foreclosure to keep owner-occupants in their homes. They're talking about freezing ARM rates at the 'teaser' levels from one to five years. Keeping families in their homes is ideal, and I hope damage caused by the 'subprime cherynoble' can be reversed or at least arrested. The complexities and cross securitization of mortgage debt will be anything but easy to unravel which was brought to light by an Ohio Circuit Court's recent ruling, essentially tossing out 14 foreclosure lawsuits because the 'lender?" could not legally establish its standing and right to foreclose. To paraphrase the judge's ruling, "The right to collect payment from a mortgage loan doesn't necessarily give that party the right to foreclose. The Plaintiff (who brought the foreclosure action) must prove it has ownership of the mortgage and has the contractual right to foreclose." If loan servicers unilaterally froze interest rates, or restructured loan terms, this action would cause a domino-like reaction adversely impacting certain guarantees made to the investors who hold the mortgages, or who have financial interest in securities collateralized by mortgages. Contractual guarantees unilaterally altered or rescinded result in lawsuits. In my opinion, unless and until "The Government" can unravel the clusterf__k and appease the global investment community who stand to lose untold profits if interest rates are frozen, its 'pressure' on loan servicers will meet deaf ears. ForeclosureFocusUSA Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: peace jewelry?
Thanks. I meant AP, and wondered if anyone had a specific recollection of seeing anything... I'm too pressed for time to shop or wait for ebay. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] peace jewelry?
Does anyone know where I may find some peace jewelry in town? New or vintage? I'm looking for a necklace or a broach. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] business district merchants
if a political/charitable event were staged to 1) meet some candidates, 2) donate to a local, worthy cause, and 3) drive some attention into the business district... would anyone be interested? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: article on Cherokee Investment Partners / EnCap
If Cherokee does indeed own 50% of Asbury Partners... it won't be long before it owns all of Asbury Partners. I've had ocassion to experience J.V. negotiations with Cherokee, and I know how absolutely cut throat it can be. I could tell you stories Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: does music or theatre have a place in politics?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dave are you the author of the letter? Kudos if so. Nope, I can't take credit for it. But the author knows I read the Asbury Park board and asked if I would give it some play. I'll let her know. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] does music or theatre have a place in politics?
This is an unedited version of a letter sent to TriCityNews in response to criticism of the appropriateness of Springsteen's participation in politics... I guess because he isn't one of "We, The People" and has no business using music to voice his concerns, or to raise our level of consciences. Kudos to Tommy DeSeno for his incite-ful article - Losing Springsteen to Haute Monde Politics - in the recent Tri City News (The Educated Issue, no less!). I loved how he articulated Bruce Springsteen's attempt to politicize American rock and roll: "Why do you want to change, Bruce? In your interview with 60 Minutes, you announced a change from singing about people's personal struggles to Washington DC politics." Everyone knows that people's personal struggles have nothing to do with DC politics. Mr. DeSeno further pointed out: "Even his songs regarding war weren't political. They were about the soldier." Duh! There is absolutely no relationship between war and soldiers fighting halfway around the world in lands where they don't speak or understand the language, culture, or history, with their fingers on the trigger of a Colt XM 177 cold, exhausted, (undoubtedly poor) and ready to shoot at a moment's notice all in a (promoted) effort to protect our freedoms here at home. I mean how can someone with only a high school diploma, and who comes from a small, blue-collar, working class American town whose classmates were deployed to "fight the yellow man" in Southeast Asia in the prime of their lives - know anything about "the big issues"? Stuff like that never shapes your life. Instead, it takes a Yale University and Harvard Business School graduate from a long line of prestigious college alumni and worth millions of dollars - to adequately express the intricate and ever-expanding relationship between the common man and the common man in fatigues. Just who does Bruce Springsteen think he is? He is not fooling anyone, least of all Tommy DeSeno: "(Bruce) when the subject was politics, you stammered and stumbled. It's not your talent." That's right. Leave politics to the politicians. Hey, look at the bang up job our "representatives" are doing now (with the common man's tax dollars, the common man's sons and daughters, and continually picking the common man's pockets). As an aside, I'd like to share my personal decision-making criteria for identifying "talent" during campaign season: Always vote for the candidate with the most vibrant shades of red, white, and blue on their election signs. And if they're decorated with stars and stripes, it's a slam dunk. Rest assured, they've got your back covered! Additionally, I would love to see (court jester) Bill O'Reilly make a fool of Bruce over his political virginity. Imagine the ratings phenomenon that would be! (Note to self: Invest in Fox stock today.) I can see it now. Bruce fumbling for words to illustrate some poor national guardsman's attempt to make ends meet while securing personal lives and loved ones during repeated and endless deployment to war zones. Just let Bruce try and find the (right?) words to describe soldiers watching as comrades and civilians are blown to smithereens. What a hoot! I hope Bruce takes the (right) hint and forgets all this political stuff. It can get you into a whole mess of trouble. Consider the words of Brazilian Archbishop Helder Camara, a man who spent over 70 years tending to the impoverished citizens of his nation. He had the audacity to speak out against censorship, torture and killings. He implored the Catholic Church to move beyond charity for the poor by tirelessly advocating for fundamental social changes: "When I fed the poor, they called me a saint. When I asked, `Why are they poor?' they called me a Communist." Thank you Mr. DeSeno for pointing out that when the subject was music, Bruce was like "Shakespeare." That is an interesting analogy, though especially considering that this author of Henry VI also said: "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Enough. Brown v. alternative lifestyle
To my thinking, this really isn't the appropriate forum for any of this and, quite frankly, doesn't serve up the interests of Asbury Park. Who cares if Mario is gay? I don't. I'm not gay and don't much care who is or isn't. Who cares if Rev Kev may, repeat, may have exercised questionable judgement awhile back. You want to talk about it? Fine, but this isn't the right forum. Anyone visiting this site and reading this crap (I haven't followed more than a few posts) would think that's all Asbury Park was about. When we post here, we are all ambassadors for the City of Asbury Park. I spent a couple of hours in America's Cup a couple of days ago, working on my next book. I overheard some opinions about parking concerns: meter vs. 2 hour limits Anyone with an opinion (unless its been discussed to death)? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
My wife, daughter, and I dined there (OMR's)last nite after visiting the Arcade and Under The Sun. We had a window seat overlooking the sidewalk. There was very little foot traffic. Hopefully, in the not too distant future, the streets will be alive with passers-by. The service was excellent. The food was plated beautifully including my 'pub' steak, potato, and beans. The steak was tasty, but tough and stringy no matter how thinly it was sliced. My daughter raved about the salmon, my wife enjoyed the tuna. I was expecting to see the mounted police. Where are the horses boarded when off-duty? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] What Happened?
My wife and I decided to bike ride yesterday. Starting off from our home in Oakhurst, we peddaled east to Ocean Avenue, then north thru Long Branch along the ocean. The board walk and adjacent path was filled with joggers, walkers and bikers. We saw a few people we knew puffing along the boards. The new businesses at the north end were hopping, too. A wedding reception party was gathering outside McLooons... although it was simply a beautiful day, I could not help thinking this was not the Long Branch I recalled as a child. We cruised around MTOTSA. (I have 7 "End Eminent Domain" tees, all in the laundry...) Then we aimed our old bikes into the wind toward Asbury Park. Outside Convention Hall, we ran into and talked with a Mom we knew whose husband was struck and killed by a car a couple of weeks ago. On parting, she advised us to "look both ways before crossing." Good bye, Rob. We locked our bikes outside the Twisted Tree, and had a cup of corn chowder before walking through the antique shoppes. We got a couple of scones at the place next door... the pineapple and coconut scone was worth the trip. One of the best I've ever tasted. I saw things advertised as "antiques" and recalled them as everyday applicances when I was growing up. The sight of a gleaming, plastic motorized Juicer brought back a floodgate of childhood memories. Good memories. I remembered every August or early September my folks taking me to Steinbachs, and National Shoes for school clothes. And everything else Asbury Park. Remember Mr. Peanut? My wife, a CPA, had volunteered for free tax clinic in Asbury, in the NJ Natural Gas office (which is right next door to "Under the Sun") before expanding the clinic into the Asbury Library where she, and one or two other volunteers prepare hundreds of tax returns without charge during late March and April. We spent an hour or so with"Under the Sun" owners Tony and Michelle who have some beautiful art pieces as tributes to the architectural history of Asbury Park perfect for hanging in local businesses. DO YOU HEAR THAT (Old Man Raffertys) MARK! They can take an antique era p0stcard or photograph, and replicate in on a type of silkscreen... although it is more like a fine, metal screen material and wrap it in a complimentary antique frame. A modern way to remember the past. Michelle, an expert in collectibles and a custom jewelry designer, and her husband Tony, a craftsman (and arguably the best basketball player I had ever seen) exemplify what's going right with Asbury Park. I felt at home and comfortable as I would in Lambertville, New Hope, or Lahaska. Sure, the transformation along the waterfront hasn't been pretty, but the downtown is, in my opinion, going in the right direction. Long Branch vs Asbury? For me, Asbury conjurs up good feelings while the Long Branch experience left me thinking, "What Happened?" Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Ocean Township considering suing Weldon for accepting bribes
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -maybe they should start over. OT has a new manager as well. > > Maybe it should be put to vote, like on a ballot. > The new manager was hand picked by the former manager... so good luck. Of interest, an independent auditor's report (June 07) of Ocean's financial statements of various funds and accounts indicate the accounting and reporting practices used by Ocean Township is something other than US generally accepted accounting principles. The report to the Mayor states that the financial statements audited do not represent, fairly, in conformity with generally accepted accounting principles, the financial position of the various individual funds of the Township of Ocean. H. I'm not suggesting anything untoward, but has anybody looked at Ocean's Financial Statement? It's Greek to me. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:The Great Iraq Swindle
Agreed. Time for We The People to start acting like We The People, get off our collective lazy ass, and get educated... beyond what FAUX News shovels at every opportunity. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Meet The Democratic Candidates
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[AsburyPark] Re: Fate of Another Park
Thanks. I checked the pictures. I remember going to the NY World's Fair with my folks. Remember the amphi-car? I also remember the story book village where Sears used to sit. I recall there was a Wild West Show, too. Some of the attractions were shipped to a park just outside of Atlantic City, and to a park in northwest NJ. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] I don't give a damn! (Asbury Park historical reference)
I don't give a damn! Take it easy. It's just a baseball reference. In Abbot & Costello's famous Who's on First routine, the short-stop's name was, "I don't give a damn!" Happy baseball season!
[AsburyPark] Re: The Pattern
I haven't been following this thread, and I may be sticking my nose in something I shouldn't... but I read this quote, "The beachfront redevelopment had its first condo closing last week. $825,000.00 unit. That's reality." I have spent a few years investigating untoward realty transactions including predatory lending, and mortgage origination and appraisal fraud... as well as some time working as a managing partner in a waterfront redevelopment project. I even had a few ocassions to bid against MDSass at muni tax lien auctions, and had a E-Confrontation with L. Fishman as his company was evicting an elderly woman from a home MDSass had purchased via tax lien foreclosure. So, nothing surprises me. In fact,my wife calls me a conspiratorial theorist. Historically, when a housing development is first exposed to its market, it isn't uncommon for the first few units to be sold at less than an arms'length transaction... these early sales set values upon which other units are compared. Not saying this is happening here... but I wouldn't be too surprised. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Pattern
I haven't been following this thread, and I may be sticking my nose in something I shouldn't... but I read this quote, ""The beachfront redevelopment had its first condo closing last week. $825,000.00 unit. That's reality." I have spent a few years investigating untoward realty transactions including predatory lending, and mortgage origination and appraisal fraud... as well as some time working as a managing partner in a waterfront redevelopment project. So, nothing surprises me. In fact, my wife calls me a conspiratorial theorist. Historically, when a housing development is first exposed to its market, it isn't uncommon for the first few units to be sold at less than an arms'length transaction... these early sales set values upon which other units are compared. Not saying this is happening here... but I wouldn't be too surprised. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Belmar - Eminent Domain
I, for one, favor the use of eminent domain for socially necessary projects, but don't endorse abuses of ED which result in the taking of and transfer of private property from one to another. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Bam Bam Bigelow Dies
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[AsburyPark] Re: Bam Bam Bigelow Dies
I guess up until a few years ago, he lived in Wayside and operated an entertainment/wrestling school, in addition to a part-time roofing contracting business. He was often seen about town riding his motorcycle. His son played on the Ocean Township football team. I read recently Scott turned himself into the Florida police on an outstanding warrant. He was said to have body-slammed a girlfriend. She complained. He did have a temper. Years ago I was rehabbing a huge house in Colts Neck which was in need of a new roof. I called a few roofers for estimates, thinking it would take a few days for them to prepare and submit a written estimate. Long story short, BamBam didn't get the job and didn't take it too well. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Foundation aids children
from today's APP letters to the editor: I saw your (APP) Jan. 4 editorial "Field of Dreams" on the proposed Little League field in Asbury Park. Have the organizers looked into Derek Jeter's foundation? It is called Turn 2 Foundation and its mission is "to create and support signature programs and activities that motivate young people to turn away from drugs and alcohol and "Turn 2' healthy lifestyles."They award grants and are particularly interested in assisting youngsters in inner cities and urban areas of America. Information is available at DerekJeter.com. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Sean Kean getting nervous...
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[AsburyPark] Hmmmm.
Just wondering what happened? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Some Know Beyond Mere Statistics
It will be interesting to see if newly elected LB Councilman (DemGreen) Brian Unger's voice/views/positions will provoke a similar response from a select group as did newly (then) elected AP Councilman Keady. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: sounds like a setup
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > Dave I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on one issue: Thanks, and thanks for the story. The potential for sharing both current and historic info is what makes this board attractive. Mention Sinatra again, and I'll tell you a story about my great uncle from Hoboken who was part of a five man singing group. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: sounds like a setup
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "theshortsalepro" > wrote: > > > Years ago, Terry Weldon became the most successful, prolific, then > > famous party crasher in America. He loved doning his tux, walking > > uninvited thru a NYC or Las Vegas reception line, then having his > >photo > > snapped at celeb choked galas. > > Dave I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on one issue: The > man who taught Weldon how to party crash the celebs, Billy Dello, > was unquestionably the best at it. Weldon was a guy who started out > by going with Billy, just like Jimmy Marrucca. Angel Camus does it > too, but I don't know how he got started. I think he is a > photographer. > > You are right that Terry became "famous" for it, which was an > enormous mistake. After that he could't crash another party. Billy > never made that mistake. Rumor was that Terry bragged so much on TV > about getting near the President it he got him in Dutch with the > Secret Service. > > Before he died Billy Dello let me in on some secrets to doing it: > Your face has to be familiar enough for them to recognize you, but > not enough to really know you. You know that uncomfortable feeling > when someone whose face you know says hello to you but you are so > embarrassed because you can't recall their name? That's the playing > field. Since they knew his face, they weren't going to possibly > embarrass themselves and ask him to leave. They just figured he was > someone who belonged. > > That, and walk past the guy at the door like you own the joint. > Don't furtively look away because that is suspicious - engage him - > say hello, shake his hand and use his name. Eventually you become > familiar to him too. > > Billy Dello's best party crash? A private birthday dinner for Dean > Martin - WITH ONLY 12 GUESTS! Sat at the table and stayed the whole > night. > > The reason they first got to know his face was from Boxing. He was > always around it. Remember those famous photos Sinatra took for > Life Magazine of the Ali Frazier fight? Billy was in them at > ringside. I think it was the Ali Norton fight the Billy was the > first in the ring afterward. > > Sorry for rambling about this memory. It's Christmas and I really > miss Billy Dello. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: sounds like a setup
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" wrote: > > > This whole Weldon thing sounds like a setup from the get go. > It came about too easy Was this a wagg the tail??? Years ago, Terry Weldon became the most successful, prolific, then famous party crasher in America. He loved doning his tux, walking uninvited thru a NYC or Las Vegas reception line, then having his photo snapped at celeb choked galas. Did he offer his 'role playing' skillset to combat corruption? Who is the big cheese as of yet unfingered? Wait for the premier of the movie with a tuxedo'd Terry waiting to have his picture taken with Doug Christie. Or, not. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: chains etc
"So, Nahans in OT, while still keeping the name isn't the same family?" I think, but am not sure, that Nahans in OT is owned by the son-in-law or nephew-in-law of the original. He also has another wide width shoe store in Toms River. Dave, 4E Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rolemover, I accept your Offer
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dave what Charity is that and what's it all about? Tom, I co-founded a 501c3 (Society for the Preservation of Continued Homeownership, or SPOCH, for short) whose mission is to help people who face the loss of their home to mortgage or tax foreclosure... it is educational in that we help distressed homeowners identify predatory lending practices, and guard against untoward realty practices while facilitating mortgagee approved loan workouts we choreograph preforeclosure sales, and preforeclosure short sales.. and charitable, when our funds allow, to answer the call when folks are in need of moving expenses, food, etc. I ocassionally contribute to the New York Times realty Q&A, and served up a few homeowner tips for this Sunday's CNN show, Open House. I'll be teaching a non-credit course at Brookdale this summer entitled, Threats to Continued Homeownership which will include a primer on how to avoid, or cope with foreclosure, predatory lending, and matters of eminent domain abuse. NJ has averaged 15,000 mortgage foreclosures each year for the last decade... and I now see on the horizon a perfect storm... The upcoming ARM resets will see tens of thousands of homeowners across the USA unable to afford the increase in monthly payments; the recently enacted changes in the bankruptcy laws will result in more homeowners unable to keep their homes; and the deteriorating real estate market and quickly evaporating "artificial equity" making already high LTV mortgages impossible to refinance... and in many cases, making those homes with 125% LTV mortgages impossible to sell. Whew. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rolemover, I accept your Offer
Oh, well. Next time we have a closing scheduled on or near Christmas, now I know who I want to be our closing attorney! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Rolemover, I accept your Offer
Rolemover, I accept your Offer. I appreciate you want to protect your identity, and I don't care one way or another. Let's use T. DeSeno, Esq. as the referee. You deliver to his office a certified check or money order payable jointly to T.DeSeno, Esq., and SPOCH, with instructions to Mr. DeSeno to release the check to me upon presentation of Rev Kev's credentials. From the $1,000 I'll pay his fee to conduct the transaction. OK? If I don't deliver the credentials as requested, Mr. DeSeno would return the check to you. This would be a great Holiday help for us. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rev Kev going to HELL!!!
A thousand bucks is a thousand bucks and a great deal of money to a starving non profit. I propose the following: Rollemover anonymously entrust You with $1,000 certified check to be released immediately to anyone who can provide RevKev's credentials... and I further propose that someone be ME. I deliver to your office the requested documentation. Upon your review and satisfaction the docs meet the Offeror's criteria, you deduct your fee, then pay the balance to my non profit org. I'll then settle with RevKev. Rollmover's identity won't be compromised. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rev Kev going to HELL!!!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Generally yes, an offered reward becomes a contract enforceable by the person who performs the action called for by the offering party. Be that as it may, I find the hunt to out Rolemover less than OK. How would RevKev's pursuit to 'out' rolemover's identity impact the Offer rolemover made which was to pay $1000 to see RevKev's credentials? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Rev Kev going to HELL!!!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > im offering $1000.00 to see your credentials you fraud!!! RevKev, as you know, I work with a non profit charitable and educational organization, [501c3] too. Funding is scarce. If $1,000 is being offered by rolemover, I think we should accept that offer. Perhaps the board's resident attorney can offer an opinion as to whether the offer made by rolemover is valid and if it were accepted and proof provided, could the promise of payment be enforced. If we prevail, I'll gladly accept the $1,000 as a contribution, and then write a check to your organization for $500. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Eminent Domain
"Eminent" and "Domain" aren't dirty words, but become so when followed by the word 'Abuse'. What constitutes abuse? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Date of Forum on Renter's Issues
Controversy is newsworthy. I think, perhaps, the opposite is true. Keady is gaining support from the silent majority.. who are beginning to realize they have a voice. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: the role/responsibility of 3rd party candidate
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dont waste your money...you have no shot at winning Rarely do independant or 3rd party candidates have an expectation of winning the office they seek. Their intent is to bring to the forefront issues long ignored or afforded token lipservice by the duopoly. Their intent is to create an awareness, then dialogue, then change. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady Blog
I think I read Keady said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that children/youth/students are part of the solution to the problems faced by Asbury Park. He is trying to involve the kids in the future of Asbury Park. He is trying to give the kids a feeling of worth, and a voice. How better to let the kids know that the adults care about them and their opinions (read: respect) than to tell 'em so? If the kids develop a feeling of self worth and self respect... who knows how Asbury can benefit? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] exercise your right to vote
Even though many eligible voters seem disenfranchised with the political process... convinced that their votes are meaningless and won't effect day to day struggles... it is important to exercise the right to vote. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Jim Keady & Inconvenient Truth(s)
Keady's campaign included gathering information and listening to the thoughts and concerns of the people of Asbury Park. Door by door. Apparently, those people liked what he stood for enough to get him elected. Keady was elected to represent the interest of the People. Keady was not elected to be a cheerleader for redevelopment. Is Jim a politician? Thankfully, not in the traditional mold. Look where politics have gotten us? With few exceptions, our elected officials are presented to us, and 'rented' by special interests. I think more of our elected officials should take a page from the Jim Keady handbook. He might piss off the special interests... and those who shill for the special interests, but the voters know their concerns have a voice. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] In this corner..... the pretender
As I recall, Rev Kev offered to broadcast the bout between two contenders to the crown. Kevin's abode, a former boxing ring in Long Branch, could be renamed, Mattison Square Garden North. Anyone care to write the tale of the tape? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] In my view....
In my view, the problems that plague Asbury Park are indicative of a larger problem. While discussions about curb height, historic preservation, and a convoluted redevelopers agreement are important,so too are political discussions because the solution to Asbury's ills as well as Society's ills will be political. The average Joe doesn't much care about politics, having been disenfranchised by the political process... as evidenced by the pitiful poll turnouts. So if this isn't the right forum to discuss long term solutions... the operative word being 'discuss' how else do we engage the general public into much needed dialogue? Ff the discussions are intellectually honest, and serve to educate rather than simply facilitate goon-like behavoir, this can be a powerful forum. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Yogi Berra: Deja Vu All Over Again , tonight at 10
His son, a flooring contractor, gave us an autographed copy of his Dad's book as a gift for our nephew.. a young baseball player and modern Yankee fan. Of course the nephew didn't appreciate the book or the book's author as much as my nephew's father or Grandfather. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: It's Déjà Vu... All Over Again
> This is contrary to your many posts on this board that conservatives are closed minded, lock step, not respectful of others views There is a difference between reading a lot of books, as in 'reading all I can get my hands on' and reading those same books with comprehension. I have a question or two. What is a 'conservative' and how does a self- labeled contemporary 'conservative' differ from the 'conservative' of 10 or 20 or 50 years ago? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Keady's Insensitive Remarks
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Read my reactions to Councilman Keady's insensitive remarks about the > shootings this week. I've spent 25 years working closely with people when they are dealing with extreme life challenges, and I've become a fair judge of character. I've met Jim Keady. He is a good, sincere, intellectually honest guy. He is a forward thinker and sees the bigger picture of how things are and how they ought to be. He wants to build a bridge between the two. I don't believe him capable of making insensitive remarks. I also know Asbury Steve. Perhaps you mistakenly confused the two? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This Board is a Tough Place
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In reference to Tommy's comment to NJDave: > > > So you are into political theory. > > NJDave seems to be more than "into" political theory. From reading his posts, I'd say that he knows his stuff thoroughly. Mario, thanks for your kind words. Truth be told, I can't take full credit for my words. I've had great teachers along the way, and I was simply reiterating what I have learned in an attempt to correct a perpetuated and significant inaccuracy. I wish I had Tommy D's passion. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This Board is a Tough Place
> I assume you recall the Soviet's attempt at Marx's Communism. They > had no private property either - government owned the land. > > Please allow me to turn the tables - where did you "come away with > the idea" that Marx advocated private ownership of land? > == Well, this isn't the most appropriate forum for this, and I do apologize in advance to other readers for responding to your statement. I should have simply written a letter to the TCN last June. Your interpretation of Marx is a matter of intellectual honesty. A common misconception shared by many is that the Soviets attempted Marx's Communism. The irrefutable fact is they didn't. The Soviets utilized commodity production, a political government, and a wages system much the same as the capitalism we endure here in our own country. The Communist Manifesto from which you quoted, AND took the quote out of context , was written by a young Marx who had not yet examined and analyzed capitalism to the extent that it was in Das Capital, which was his most significant contribution to our understanding of how capitalism works, something all of us should know and discuss, that is, if we're interested in and committed to living in a real democracy. You wrote, "The following is Marx's most famous quote from the CM: "In this sense, the theory of communism may be summed up in the single sentence: abolition of private property" You eliminated the full, authentic text which qualified Marx's qualifier "in this sense..." In its context, Marx's "bourgeois private property" is TODAY's MODERN, PRIVATELY OWNED, CORPORATION... the GMs, the GEs, the Halliburtons, and the rest of the corporate complex whose dominant owners, (in contrast to the small investors) whose market system and values dictate our culture. Those same dominant owners of industry control our Congressional seats through campaign financing. Marx never outlined a clear alternative to the current "private" ownership (again, meaning corporately owned) of our necessary industries. His real contribution is in pointing out how capitalism's institutions do not serve well most citizens... and is counter-productive to having a democratic, prosperous, and peaceful society. As of today, we, as in We The People, have the US Constitution which enables us to have a society in which our needed industries are socially owned and democratically operated by ourselves for our own use... rather than for the profit interests of a distinct capitalist class minority. I'm concerned by the recent strong-armed attacks on our constitutional freedoms in the name of 'protecting Americans'. Yesterday was heralded and disguised as a benchmark day in the fight against terrorism... but it really was a punch in the gut to the US Constitution... and a get out of jail free card for the present administration. I digress. If you want to continue this discussion, I'll be in Amherst, MA later this month for a conference on "Marx Revisited" But I guess I won't see you there. I do, however, appreciate your insight into Asbury Park. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: This Board is a Tough Place
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I started posting here on Oct 13. True, but you've been writing your TCN column awhile. My comment, "Oh, he knows the Right's talking points, little else, " was in response to your columns... in particular, your basic misunderstanding of Marx... said misundertandings suggest your 'education' came from corporate media outlets or what is parroted by today's politicians. For example, where did you come away with the idea Marx advocated "government" ownership of the land? Certainly nowhere in the works of Marx. Perhaps you read or heard someone's misinterpretation and held it as true... Likely from the likes of a Limbaugh of O'Reilly, or another daily capitalist propaganda machine. Marx, who argued against the wage system, agaionst commodity production, and against the political state. Any serious study of Marx would reveal he made it clear that any type of government which employed political divisions was not in the interest of the people. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: ocean ave
> > To borrow a line, "No Brag, Just Fact" > > (A drink to the first person to identify the source of that) > > > > Werner > > > Walter Brennan. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury has a new historian
> Tommy should stick to law and politics. Hopefully, for both his and his clients' sake, he is a more learned attorney-at-law than he offers as a political scientist. Oh, he knows the Right's talking points, little else, but that doesn't stop him from pretending he does. It's sad. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Partners & Realty Transfer Taxes
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have contcted NJ Division of Taxation to look into the > sales between Partners and the subdevelopers and it has agreed to do > so. Stay tuned. Excellent. While they (AP) may have buddies in the State House willing to look the other way... I don't think the NJ Division of Taxation has any friends... anywhere. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Ridkid004 - Identity
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't say. Can't, or won't? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Partners
The role of master developer, at least in other high profile NJ redevelopment projects, is that of a choreographer/solicitor. The MD (master developer) creates the opportunity and positions itself in the drivers seat The MD doesn't get the whole pie, but seeks as many pieces of the pie as possible... including every source of revenue not demanded by the sub-developer including signage, vending, parking, ancillary business opportunities... all the while seeking to reduce costs and/or shift the burden to sub-developers or the community itself. Their at risk capital is in the form of soft costs... not necessarily in the form of stix and bricks. The fees paid to lawyers, accountants, economists, site engineers, architects, surveyors, appraisers, political bribery, etc. I would guestimate the ProForma (the formal pitch to the sub-developers) alone cost upwards of $250,000... or maybe 10 times that amount. I'd bet a lot of MD's soft costs were subsidized by grants or low interest loans from the New Jersey Economic Redevelopment Agency, Department of Commerce, even the DOT. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Depressing Story - Real Estate Recession
I call it a perfect storm. #1. The anticipated housing market decline. Artificial equity is evaporating revealing a home's true value with relation to the amount of the mortgage(s). The recent wave of cash out refinancing (equity depleting) sometimes up to 90% or more of the home's Fair Market Value may result in a large portion of American housing mortgaged to the hilt #2. Adjustable Mortgage Loan RESET. Those mortgage loans now are resetting from artificially low interest rates to somewhat higher rates making homeownership more expensive... #3.Changes in bankruptcy laws will challenge homeownership as many debtors can't afford Chapter 13 repayment plans... Chapter 13 has long been the last lifeline between foreclosure and preserving homeownership. Now that lifeline isn't in close reach. Oh, have you noticed the minimum monthly credit card payment has increased? Coinciding with the new bankruptcy laws, credit card companies decided to increase the minimum payment placing further strain on household budgets. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Gold Digger-What happened?
I recall going there in my late teens and early 20s. I drove the circuit with a friend who had a brand new, white, 1974 Monte Carlo. I couldn't use my car because it would have been stop, jump out, and push at every light. CB radios were big then. I never took a 'lude' but I knew what it was, and the people who took them, in retrospect, seemed vey happy... Didn't the former Asbury Park Mayor take a lot of ludes? Or did he just sell them. I can't recall, but his family owned a funeral home. Does anyone remember John Bass, the artist? He used to hang out at the Golddigger.. and later had a series on local cable TV painting acrylics a la Bob Ross. I think he lost a leg. Didn't Golddigger have bar hot dogs? My grandmother, after my Grandfather passed away, worked at the Criterian Candy store. The first time I went in there was to see her working I saw here in her white iniform, and she gave me something I had never seen or tasted before: white chocolate. She would take the bus from Criterian a few miles north to where she lived. The bus was a perfectly safe and acceptable form of transportation even for little old ladies smelling of boardwalk chocolate. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: TriCity News: Does it matter?
I think Dan and his staff ought to be congratulated for creating a successful, local newspaper. I wish it had a sports page. A weekly newspaper is essential to any community and TCN is great PR for AP. The TCN serves not only the folks in AP, but touches on issues that impact Red Bank, and Long Branch, too. My wife and I read it just about every week. I used to read Justified Right by DeSeno... but can no longer stomach it. He might have graduated from law school, but he ain't no student of history or political science, or at least he wasn't a very good student. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
