Re: [AsburyPark] Re: APP.COM - Shelter may wind up homeless | Asbury Park Pre...

2007-10-25 Thread MarioAPNJ
 
 
In a message dated 10/25/2007 11:13:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

So my  tough love speak is not from a hard heart but from
experience. Everyone has  rights. You can be compassionate and at the
same time expect respect in  return for your rights.

I hear that on many levels.
 
A lot of my thoughts, opined here, were developed theoretically over a  
lifetime.
 
The interesting chapters have been learning to apply them (or sometimes  
adapt them to reality) while living in Asbury Park, and on a block which is  
more 
diverse than it looks.
 
And the danger in posting here is that you can be pigeonholed based on  
thumbnail comments trying not to post a tome at a time.
 
The alternative is to sit idly by, afraid to speak your piece.
 
Charlie Rose, Tavis Smiley, and Cornell West discussed this very topic last  
night.
I previously recommended the show; it repeats at 1:30 today and other times  
depending on your provider.
Soon here:   
_Click  here: A conversation with Tavis Smiley & Cornel West - Charlie Rose_ 
(http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2007/10/24/1/a-conversation-with-tavis-smiley
-cornel-west)  





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[AsburyPark] Re: APP.COM - Shelter may wind up homeless | Asbury Park Pre...

2007-10-25 Thread oakdorf
>>>I did everything I could to get them off drugs, alcohol.
> All to no avail. It breaks your heart.

Ditto. But then you have might have tenants who work and simply choose 
not to pay rent.

If you're the landlord, the city or mortgage co doesn't care about your 
heart. Just their payment. I thought about not being a nice guy Jan 1 
this year. So now I'm down only $17k in rent because my being nice to a 
couple tenants who just use "tomorrow" as the paydate. As a landlord, 
you can listen to only so many excuses. As a landlord, you have to 
listen to NO excuses. Otherwise your rent money goes to their habits - 
not working, drinking, buying plasma tv's with your rent money, new 
cars etc...

So tomorrow has come for a couple tenants I know. Only the 2nd time in 
20 years I had to use an attorney. The first was the beginning of this 
year.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: APP.COM - Shelter may wind up homeless | Asbury Park Pre...

2007-10-25 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> 
> And the other comment by Williams which says more than  intended:
>  
> "Williams said five have been drawn into the life-change program
since  June, 
> but of the five, he asked one to leave and another left on his own.
Two  men 
> completed their first 30 days and are in Morristown. One man is in
his first  
> 30 days with Williams."

I caught that but thought that perhaps the odds are tough. Listen, I
know that first hand. I've lived most of my life in places like AP.
I've had businesses and had down and out guys work for me, live in my
propertie. I did everything I could to get them off drugs, alcohol.
All to no avail. It breaks your heart.

I am trying to keep someone right now in AP from going homeless. I've
paid their rent many times. Without work it is difficult. They have
made all the wrong choices in life and they know it. There is so much
you can do. So my tough love speak is not from a hard heart but from
experience. Everyone has rights. You can be compassionate and at the
same time expect respect in return for your rights.





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: APP.COM - Shelter may wind up homeless | Asbury Park Pre...

2007-10-25 Thread MarioAPNJ
 
In a message dated 10/25/2007 10:29:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  Ma
>
> 
> Asked if they could be  taken to Market Street's successful program in 
> Morristown, Williams  said, "Morristown might have a big issue about
bringing in 
> people  from the outside."

But think nothing of bringing outsiders to AP. How  nice of them. How
nice of everyone who runs programs AWAY from their home.  It must feel
good to have a clear conscience and clear lawns and  sidewalks.
 
 
 

And the other comment by Williams which says more than  intended:
 
"Williams said five have been drawn into the life-change program since  June, 
but of the five, he asked one to leave and another left on his own. Two  men 
completed their first 30 days and are in Morristown. One man is in his first  
30 days with Williams."
 
 



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