[AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
I agree, my kids love them, but they are a "luxury" if your asking me. They would be great to have if we had a bunch of money to spend and wanted to impress the tourists, or had crowds of people, like NYC. I think that the Police Dept. could have spent their money on something more usefull for what we have to deal with today. Bicyle cops can cover more ground, get their with resonable stealth, and cost alot less. Greg --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "abbee brandsema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cops on horseback are good for nothing but cheesy tourist photos. > Criminals can hear "clop-clop-clop" from a block away and they cost a > fortune to maintain. I'd rather see cops on vespas, skateboards, > whatever! Please don't waste our money on frivolity, this town has too > much that needs to happen to make it right again! > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
While I hate to say it I tend to agree. Generally officers on horseback are ideal for crowd management and control given their sheer size and intimidation factor. While I look forward to the day we need the horses for crowd control that day has not yet arrived. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "abbee brandsema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cops on horseback are good for nothing but cheesy tourist photos. > Criminals can hear "clop-clop-clop" from a block away and they cost a > fortune to maintain. I'd rather see cops on vespas, skateboards, > whatever! Please don't waste our money on frivolity, this town has too > much that needs to happen to make it right again! > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
ok, bikes then. The horse part is not important it is not being in a car that is imp --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "abbee brandsema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cops on horseback are good for nothing but cheesy tourist photos. > Criminals can hear "clop-clop-clop" from a block away and they cost a > fortune to maintain. I'd rather see cops on vespas, skateboards, > whatever! Please don't waste our money on frivolity, this town has too > much that needs to happen to make it right again! > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
In a message dated 1/19/2008 10:06:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cops on horseback are good for nothing but cheesy tourist photos. Criminals can hear "clop-clop-clop" from a block away and they cost a fortune to maintain. I'd rather see cops on vespas, skateboards, whatever! You may be right on that, but I remember how effective they were for crowd control in New Orleans during Mardi Gras. I remember not moving fast enough on Bourbon St when asked to move back and got slammed back by the horse's rump. Unfortunately, crowd control is not our problem here, yet. **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
[AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
Cops on horseback are good for nothing but cheesy tourist photos. Criminals can hear "clop-clop-clop" from a block away and they cost a fortune to maintain. I'd rather see cops on vespas, skateboards, whatever! Please don't waste our money on frivolity, this town has too much that needs to happen to make it right again! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
In a message dated 1/18/2008 3:45:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I was at NYU in the early 90s, it was unsafe to walk certain blocks. If you did, you had a pretty good chance of being mugged. NYU students were mugged on a regular basis. When I would go to my studio classes in the West 40s and 50s (I was a theater major), there were so many prostitutes, druggies, etc. Now? The city is really freakin safe. Similar experiences here. I had a place on Grove St for several summers and took courses at NYU. I never felt unsafe, but I'd encounter street "entrepreneurs" on just about every block. Guys selling "smokes" were the most obvious; I even saw them hit on Jerry Orbach once. Then it seemed they all disappeared (as did the homeless who used to sleep on the grates surrounding NYU's buildings -- never did find out where they all went). Hated when Times Square was at its sleaziest, but also hated the Disneyfication of the area. But what comes first in these situations (Chicken or the Egg?): the redevelopment or the "quality of life" sweeps? **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
[AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
Just want to be clear, I am not criticizing the cops themselves. I come from a law enforcement family. I saw a lot of cops on foot patrol in the summer. I see them on First Nights and such... But there is nothing like having cops on foot all the time, on the street, seeing what is going on... moving people along when they loiter too long at a corner. Being in a car is not the same. There should always be cops on foot on the major streets where people go out. Maybe we should spend the $25,000 on warm coats and gear for the cops? If you go out in NYC, you will always see cops on the street. While our crime rate may be down (on your word, I have not seen the data) if is still high and people perceive it as SUPER high. I am not AP bashing. I love this city. But the reality is that things are a lot less likely to go down if the police are right there. Here is another question... Are police notified when Stone Pony shows and similar events end so that the police can watch people get to their cars safely? Not just the big events, but the small ones too. I have walked home from the Pony and it was pretty desolate. I know people recently got jumped after going to the Lanes. More of a presence would make these incidents less likely. And did someone pull a gun and mug a family on Cookman recently, or is that a rumor? And trust me, I have called the cops and will always call the cops if I see something. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Beginning this year we should have a total of 108 > policeman employed for AP---We also have a large > presence of County and State officers patroling the > streets of Asbury Park. > > Believe it or not---there has been a reduction in > crime in AP. Alot of crime that had not been reported > in the AP Press was occuring in AP---even though the > press tried to make sure they had every bad occurence > that happened in Asbury Park on the front page. > > Our Police are on foot patrol---in warmer temperatures > on bike patrol---we also have two officers on horse > back. > > So we have the police working for us we just need the > community to come together and work with the police in > being the second pair of eyes. > > I'm not sure if it's in place as of yet but I know > they are working on a new phone system for the police > department so when you report a crime your name is not > blasted all over the scanner. > > Any problems feel free to reach out to the Chief-Mark > Kinmon---he is a great guy---very down to earth > > > > _ ___ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? category=shopping > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
Beginning this year we should have a total of 108 policeman employed for AP---We also have a large presence of County and State officers patroling the streets of Asbury Park. Believe it or not---there has been a reduction in crime in AP. Alot of crime that had not been reported in the AP Press was occuring in AP---even though the press tried to make sure they had every bad occurence that happened in Asbury Park on the front page. Our Police are on foot patrol---in warmer temperatures on bike patrol---we also have two officers on horse back. So we have the police working for us we just need the community to come together and work with the police in being the second pair of eyes. I'm not sure if it's in place as of yet but I know they are working on a new phone system for the police department so when you report a crime your name is not blasted all over the scanner. Any problems feel free to reach out to the Chief-Mark Kinmon---he is a great guy---very down to earth Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
Can you email me contact info? Emails? If we have a 100 police officers (we really have that many??) then they need to be more of a visible presence. I see a lot more cars on patrol than I use to, but we still need a lot more on foot, interacting with people, getting to know the people. I lived in NYC before and after Giuliani. And while I am not a fan of everything about the man, I can not deny how much he changed NYC. When I was at NYU in the early 90s, it was unsafe to walk certain blocks. If you did, you had a pretty good chance of being mugged. NYU students were mugged on a regular basis. When I would go to my studio classes in the West 40s and 50s (I was a theater major), there were so many prostitutes, druggies, etc. Now? The city is really freakin safe. I even use to run in Central Park at night. It was well lit, there were TONS of cops. What he do? He had this whole crack down on "quality of life" crimes. And there were always cops around. I am not talking about what he did with the homeless, I am just talking about putting everything right out in the open, cracking down on the little things as well as the big things. People will come, investors will come when everyone views AP as a safer place to be. I feel ok here (but for the murder on my street). I have never, myself, had a problem and I consider myself street smart, but others view AP as a crime ridden cesspool (see App.com comments). How dow we change the perception? Change the crime rate and have that story run in the APP. Make announcements about how cops will start foot patrols on Cookman, Main, etc and do it. Let people see the police when they eat on Cookman, like they could this summer on the BW. I picked up food the other night by Mattison, and I went back to my car, parked on Mattison and it was dark, there was no one aroundthat is when bad things happen. Lights, Cameras, Cops, No Nonsense. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" > wrote: > > > > Thanks. I have lived here three years and I have never noticed a > > city wide clean up day, so maybe it needs a bit more publicity? > Just > > like I see signs for a neighborhood watch, would be more than > > willing to be a part of it, but no one has ever come by, or mailed > a > > flyer or anything. I do not even know who the contact person is or > > how to contact them. I think someone emailed me some names, but no > > contact info. So, things may exist here, but if they do, they need > > to be stepped up a notch. That, and the never ending blowing of > > garbage in my yard makes me nuts. > > > Barbara Lesinski who lives on the 600 blk of 6th Ave. is in charge of > the n.w. in your section,George Kary who is also a participant in > this and is a member of cops community on patrol lives on the 200 blk > of 6th ave. both are very nice people and will help you with any > information you need, there use to a a blog in the coaster when they > met but i have not seen it lately if i find out i will let you know > > > you raise an interesting point in you feel we need more police, I do > not know if i agree, i believe, no i know we need more on the > streets, but with a staff of approx 100 for a 1 sq. mile town i am > not convinced we need more when i read red bank a city similiar to > ours has 42, this is not a negative reflection on our police i think > they are outstanding and doing a great job, im just not convinced we > need more. thank you > > > I know you're fairly new to the city and they have > > > this already in place when I receive the > > > correspondence I will be sure to forward it to you > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > ___ > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? > > category=shopping > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks. I have lived here three years and I have never noticed a > city wide clean up day, so maybe it needs a bit more publicity? Just > like I see signs for a neighborhood watch, would be more than > willing to be a part of it, but no one has ever come by, or mailed a > flyer or anything. I do not even know who the contact person is or > how to contact them. I think someone emailed me some names, but no > contact info. So, things may exist here, but if they do, they need > to be stepped up a notch. That, and the never ending blowing of > garbage in my yard makes me nuts. > Barbara Lesinski who lives on the 600 blk of 6th Ave. is in charge of the n.w. in your section,George Kary who is also a participant in this and is a member of cops community on patrol lives on the 200 blk of 6th ave. both are very nice people and will help you with any information you need, there use to a a blog in the coaster when they met but i have not seen it lately if i find out i will let you know > you raise an interesting point in you feel we need more police, I do not know if i agree, i believe, no i know we need more on the streets, but with a staff of approx 100 for a 1 sq. mile town i am not convinced we need more when i read red bank a city similiar to ours has 42, this is not a negative reflection on our police i think they are outstanding and doing a great job, im just not convinced we need more. thank you > > I know you're fairly new to the city and they have > > this already in place when I receive the > > correspondence I will be sure to forward it to you > > > > > > > _ > ___ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? > category=shopping > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Annual Clean Up Asbury Park Day
Thanks. I have lived here three years and I have never noticed a city wide clean up day, so maybe it needs a bit more publicity? Just like I see signs for a neighborhood watch, would be more than willing to be a part of it, but no one has ever come by, or mailed a flyer or anything. I do not even know who the contact person is or how to contact them. I think someone emailed me some names, but no contact info. So, things may exist here, but if they do, they need to be stepped up a notch. That, and the never ending blowing of garbage in my yard makes me nuts. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know you're fairly new to the city and they have > this already in place when I receive the > correspondence I will be sure to forward it to you > > > _ ___ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php? category=shopping > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
