[AsburyPark] Re: BCH - TripAdvisor.com Review

2008-08-20 Thread arcman210
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> The full info page for the BCH and all the reviews.
> 
> Does not help Asbury Park that most reviews were poor.
> I thought the new owners were a first class operation.
> What's going on over there?
> 
> Werner
> 
> http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g29748-d98391-Reviews-
> Berkeley_Hotel-Asbury_Park_New_Jersey.html
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/5o3bbw
>

I was just reading this the other day.  I was also reading the entry 
for the Empress, which doesn't have the friendliest reviews either.

Some of the Empress comments complain about the noise from the bar, 
and say the hotel is very biased towards gay customers, and the 
ongoing construction next to the hotel is a problem.  Alot of people 
might not be willing to stay at a hotel that has reviews of not being 
able to sleep because of noise from a nightclub until 2 in the 
morning... and even if people arent bothered by that, the Empress is 
a much smaller hotel anyway. So for most people coming to Asbury 
Park, the BCH or the Empress both might not seem like viable 
options...

With the BCH, there is a comment about the bar not being open. Hasn't 
the hotel been under this management for two years now?  What the 
hell are they waiting for?  As of right now, they dont seem like 
they're doing the best job of keeping up the hotel.




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[AsburyPark] Re: BCH - TripAdvisor.com Review

2008-08-19 Thread Jack Pitzer
If The Berkely is paying attention, the negative reviews are actually a good 
thing in 
disguise. If they pay attention to them and make the right kind of changes, 
they can turn 
the bad reviews into something good. That's the beauty of Tripadvisor.com. 
If you do a google search on any vacation location, tripadvisor.com reviews 
always come 
in with the top results. It's constructive criticism at it's finest. Any 
property or location 
that doesn't pay attention to such things is living in the past. Hopefully The 
Berkely will 
take notice to what people are saying.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "nobepeymay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj"  
> wrote:
> > > 
> > > My gut feeling is, the dated comments are accurate.
> > > Has anyone in the group stayed there recently ?
> > > 
> > > Werner
> > >
> > I think John D stayed there a few months ago and liked it.
> >
> 
> I stayed there a number of times between July 07 through this past 
> winter.  I reviewed some of the comments on tripadvisor and found 
> most of them pretty accurate, however a few opinions too extreme.
> 
> take a look at Expedia reviews.6 reviews avg rating 4.3 out of 5 
> http://tinyurl.com/59e29f
> 
> There is no doubt that maintaining the grounds better and repairing 
> the exterior would elevate the image of the property.  The rear of 
> the building could also be use some attention.  Service level is 
> just OK, however I found the rooms clean and comfortable.
> 
> At the current price it is a bargain.unless you are turned off 
> by ap.in which case you propably would not want to stay there 
> for any price!  Bottom line in my opinion is that have done a pretty 
> good job, but if they want to start comanding higher rates they need 
> to pay more attention to the details.I can see why it is getting 
> mixed reviews.
> 
> John
>






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[AsburyPark] Re: BCH - TripAdvisor.com Review

2008-08-19 Thread nobepeymay
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj"  
wrote:
> > 
> > My gut feeling is, the dated comments are accurate.
> > Has anyone in the group stayed there recently ?
> > 
> > Werner
> >
> I think John D stayed there a few months ago and liked it.
>

I stayed there a number of times between July 07 through this past 
winter.  I reviewed some of the comments on tripadvisor and found 
most of them pretty accurate, however a few opinions too extreme.

take a look at Expedia reviews.6 reviews avg rating 4.3 out of 5 
http://tinyurl.com/59e29f

There is no doubt that maintaining the grounds better and repairing 
the exterior would elevate the image of the property.  The rear of 
the building could also be use some attention.  Service level is 
just OK, however I found the rooms clean and comfortable.

At the current price it is a bargain.unless you are turned off 
by ap.in which case you propably would not want to stay there 
for any price!  Bottom line in my opinion is that have done a pretty 
good job, but if they want to start comanding higher rates they need 
to pay more attention to the details.I can see why it is getting 
mixed reviews.

John











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[AsburyPark] Re: BCH - TripAdvisor.com Review

2008-08-19 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> My gut feeling is, the dated comments are accurate.
> Has anyone in the group stayed there recently ?
> 
> Werner
>
I think John D stayed there a few months ago and liked it.




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[AsburyPark] Re: BCH - TripAdvisor.com Review

2008-08-19 Thread Jack Pitzer
Trip advisor is very effective in avoiding "insiders" from posting false or 
glowing reviews 
of places to help tip the balance to make a place sound better then it may be. 
They have 
many ways of avoiding such a thing, and if it's discovered that a property is 
doing this, 
they'll ban the property from being listed on their site. I love Trip Advisor. 
I've been using 
it for years. One of the good things about it is when a property finds out that 
people 
areposting negative reviews, they usually will implement changes in response. 
Hopefully 
The Berkley will take the things that have been posted to heart.

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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
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> 
> > 
> > 
> > I sent the link to Joe.
> >
> 
> 
> They management should check all the travel sites. Lots of older
> comments out there.
> 
> They need to hire someone to do some blogging for them...and to invest
> in some sod and some flower beds.
>






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[AsburyPark] Re: BCH - TripAdvisor.com Review

2008-08-19 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:

> > I sent the link to Joe.
> >
> 
> They management should check all the travel sites. Lots of older
> comments out there.
> 
> They need to hire someone to do some blogging for them...and to 
invest
> in some sod and some flower beds.
>
===

My gut feeling is, the dated comments are accurate.
Has anyone in the group stayed there recently ?

Werner




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[AsburyPark] Re: BCH - TripAdvisor.com Review

2008-08-19 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> 
> I sent the link to Joe.
>


They management should check all the travel sites. Lots of older
comments out there.

They need to hire someone to do some blogging for them...and to invest
in some sod and some flower beds.




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[AsburyPark] Re: BCH - TripAdvisor.com Review

2008-08-19 Thread dfsavgny
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> That's were a chamber, economic development dept, and any marketing
co hired by the 
> city should react and take action. So should the owners. Those are
probably old comments 
> -r egardless of the dates. Some of those dates are self regenerating
- based on some 
> work I've done.


I sent the link to Joe.






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[AsburyPark] Re: BCH - TripAdvisor.com Review

2008-08-19 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The full info page for the BCH and all the reviews.
> 
> Does not help Asbury Park that most reviews were poor.
> I thought the new owners were a first class operation.
> What's going on over there?
> 


That's were a chamber, economic development dept, and any marketing co hired by 
the 
city should react and take action. So should the owners. Those are probably old 
comments 
-r egardless of the dates. Some of those dates are self regenerating - based on 
some 
work I've done.

They do that to make it APPEAR the site is updated on a regular basis when in 
fact, it's 
not.

However. the exterior of the hotel could really be spruced up - at least the 
grounds.

Some people understand the power of Internet marketing, others don't.

For mall consultant's fee, I can review some interesting stats gathered from 
various 
websites  - about ap - like asburyboardwalk.com.

Sometimes, data is gold. You just have to know how to utilize it.

Like sand and water marketed correctly, is gold.







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[AsburyPark] Re: BCH - TripAdvisor.com Review

2008-08-19 Thread wernerapnj
The full info page for the BCH and all the reviews.

Does not help Asbury Park that most reviews were poor.
I thought the new owners were a first class operation.
What's going on over there?

Werner

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g29748-d98391-Reviews-
Berkeley_Hotel-Asbury_Park_New_Jersey.html

http://tinyurl.com/5o3bbw




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