[AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard - olive branch rejected
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "lindagriggsartist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're right! I was trying to paint a picture but it was the wrong > picture. The Italian detail was utterly superfluous. Yeah, we have that effect on people. Didn't mean to come down that hard on you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard - olive branch rejected
You're right! I was trying to paint a picture but it was the wrong picture. The Italian detail was utterly superfluous. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "lindagriggsartist" wrote: > > > > The first time someone from D&L strolled into our yard it was at the > > beginning of the summer. My husband was sitting at the picnic table > > having a cup of coffee and a tattooed, Italian guy twice my husband > > size, carrying a crowbar, > > > Was it the tattoos, his size, the crowbar, or that he was Italian that > frightened your husband? Come on Linda, I expect more. Are their > lawyers Jews, their landscapers Mexicans and their dishwashers Black? > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard -draft, letter to Don Sammett
Don't know how far it will get you but also approach the Monmouth County Health Department---(Air Department)---don't know what the regs are on this - Original Message From: lindagriggsartist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:34:20 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard -draft, letter to Don Sammett Any comments, corrections, qualifications are greatly appreciated. Now, I'm going to go to work on approaching the owner. Don Sammett Director of Planning and Redevelopment Asbury Park City Hall Fax: 732 502-5738 Dear Don Sammett, We are writing regarding the vent for the meat smoker at D & L Barbeque, 1206 Main St. Odors from the smoker vent blow into residential windows. We believe the vent should be above the roofline of neighboring houses and apartments. 1206 Main Street is three stories tall in the front but only one story tall in the back. The vent is in the back of the building, level with the windows of second story apartments and the second story windows of nearby houses, 709 and 709 ½ Fourth Avenue. During the summer we couldn't open the windows while the meat was smoking or our curtains, sheets and pillows would smell like barbeque smoke. Even on beautiful nights we had to close the windows and run the air conditioner, increasing our utility bill. It cost us money so they can make money. We don't know yet how the sound and smell will affect our property values. When we bought our house at 709 Fourth Avenue, this building housed The Mercy Center. Prior to that it was a bakery. Robert Palubinskas sent the fire inspector and fire official regarding uniform fire code, chapter 3, and they found no problem. Prior to that Bill Grey inspected the vent and found it working properly. Because it had been a bakery he felt the vents were grandfathered in. But a meat smoker was not grandfathered in any more than a coffee roaster would be. We understand that Americas Cup had to submit plans for approval before installing its coffee roaster, which vents above the roofline of the adjacent apartments. Asbury Park needs both viable business and stable property values in order to thrive. We are certain that both can work together and in this case I'm hoping something as simple as venting above the roofline will enable that. We look forward to your reply. Sincerely, Linda Griggs and Allen Hansen Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
[AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard -draft, letter to Don Sammett
Any comments, corrections, qualifications are greatly appreciated. Now, I'm going to go to work on approaching the owner. Don Sammett Director of Planning and Redevelopment Asbury Park City Hall Fax: 732 502-5738 Dear Don Sammett, We are writing regarding the vent for the meat smoker at D & L Barbeque, 1206 Main St. Odors from the smoker vent blow into residential windows. We believe the vent should be above the roofline of neighboring houses and apartments. 1206 Main Street is three stories tall in the front but only one story tall in the back. The vent is in the back of the building, level with the windows of second story apartments and the second story windows of nearby houses, 709 and 709 ½ Fourth Avenue. During the summer we couldn't open the windows while the meat was smoking or our curtains, sheets and pillows would smell like barbeque smoke. Even on beautiful nights we had to close the windows and run the air conditioner, increasing our utility bill. It cost us money so they can make money. We don't know yet how the sound and smell will affect our property values. When we bought our house at 709 Fourth Avenue, this building housed The Mercy Center. Prior to that it was a bakery. Robert Palubinskas sent the fire inspector and fire official regarding uniform fire code, chapter 3, and they found no problem. Prior to that Bill Grey inspected the vent and found it working properly. Because it had been a bakery he felt the vents were grandfathered in. But a meat smoker was not grandfathered in any more than a coffee roaster would be. We understand that Americas Cup had to submit plans for approval before installing its coffee roaster, which vents above the roofline of the adjacent apartments. Asbury Park needs both viable business and stable property values in order to thrive. We are certain that both can work together and in this case I'm hoping something as simple as venting above the roofline will enable that. We look forward to your reply. Sincerely, Linda Griggs and Allen Hansen Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard - olive branch rejected
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "lindagriggsartist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The first time someone from D&L strolled into our yard it was at the > beginning of the summer. My husband was sitting at the picnic table > having a cup of coffee and a tattooed, Italian guy twice my husband > size, carrying a crowbar, Was it the tattoos, his size, the crowbar, or that he was Italian that frightened your husband? Come on Linda, I expect more. Are their lawyers Jews, their landscapers Mexicans and their dishwashers Black? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard - olive branch rejected
" Maybe you could extend them some kind > of olive branch in order to help them become more friendly. " I hear ya'. I never found being belligerent to be productive. But this is the second time they've come into our yard without permission. We talked with them about it the first time but perhaps they took politeness as a form of weakness? I've had this happen to me before. You "do unto others" and set an example of cordial behavior and if the other person is a self serving bully they just see it as a green light for more aggression. The first time someone from D&L strolled into our yard it was at the beginning of the summer. My husband was sitting at the picnic table having a cup of coffee and a tattooed, Italian guy twice my husband size, carrying a crowbar, came walking up the little walkway between the houses into our little yard blocking the exit, trapping him. "Don't freak out.", he says. My husband practically sprayed coffee. "What do mean, Don't freak out!" My husband went over to talk to them about it but I guess he was too polite or something...anyway, they didn't take the message to heart. So the police did the job for us and they advised us not to speak with them again. When the police get involved with "feuding neighbors" they only see what happens when the tension escalates. They never see it when people resolve anything on their own through talking. It's kind of like...you don't ask an emergency room nurse which kind of motorcycle she likes best. I'm writing a letter to Don Sammett (thanks to advice given me on this list) and I'll post it first before sending it in the hopes of getting more advice and feedback. On, on, Linda --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow, that's a terrible story. > Good thing you called the cops. > You might also have a legal issue with them if their smoker is > impacting your lifestyle. They really need to be made to understand > that they are part of a community and that it benefits them to be > friendly with their neighbors. Maybe you could extend them some kind > of olive branch in order to help them become more friendly. It doesn't > sound like they are going to make the first move, so it might benefit > you to make an attempt. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "lindagriggsartist" wrote: > > > > Okay... > > > > So we arrive in Asbury on Friday afternoon and our gate was open and > > the bottom slats are broken off the brace. We go into the backyard > > and nothing is disturbed except the wall of D&L BBQ which now has a > > piece of cardboard and a scrap of plywood nailed over the window. > > > > They didn't even bother to leave a note or lock the gate behind them. > > They left the gate swinging in the wind, letting any passerby know > > that we were gone for Thanksgiving. > > > > When D&L first fired up the smoker and we couldn't open our windows > > for days we spoke to them about the impact of their vent on the > > surrounding houses. We were met with blank faced, arrogant > > indifference and, not surprisingly, that's what we got when we asked > > about them trespassing on our property. > > > > Later, the maitre d'/waiter admitted to coming into our yard but he > > claimed he didn't break the gate. > > > > So we filed a police report and had to have the police go into the > > restaurant and talk to them. > > > > Does anyone know who owns that building now? 1206 Main St. > > > > Any advice on this kind of issue is appreciated. > > > > Linda Griggs > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the buidings owner is Mark Benjamin. Contact barry associates I > think they sold it. > PS. From what I know of him he'll take care of it. I think he onws a rental next to one of mine and took care of a fence there I asked him to put up. I think the same owner. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard.
I think the buidings owner is Mark Benjamin. Contact barry associates I think they sold it. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I could not find that entity in NYS Dept of Corps. Check with City, > they should have a phone number for someone, but it seems as your case > is against the restaurant. > It is an NJ LLC. The mortgages give two different addresses, the one in Brooklyn indicated above and one at 27 Roseld Ave, Deal NJ 07723. The person that signed for the LLC is a Ninette Sabin. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "lindagriggsartist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know who owns that building now? 1206 Main St. Sold from LEVY, ISAAC 272 A NORWOOD AVENUE DEAL, NJ 07723 to 1206 MAIN STREET LLC 483 KINGS HIGHWAY BROOKLYN, NY 11223 in April 2007. I could not find that entity in NYS Dept of Corps. Check with City, they should have a phone number for someone, but it seems as your case is against the restaurant. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: D&L BBQ broke into our yard.
Wow, that's a terrible story. Good thing you called the cops. You might also have a legal issue with them if their smoker is impacting your lifestyle. They really need to be made to understand that they are part of a community and that it benefits them to be friendly with their neighbors. Maybe you could extend them some kind of olive branch in order to help them become more friendly. It doesn't sound like they are going to make the first move, so it might benefit you to make an attempt. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "lindagriggsartist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Okay... > > So we arrive in Asbury on Friday afternoon and our gate was open and > the bottom slats are broken off the brace. We go into the backyard > and nothing is disturbed except the wall of D&L BBQ which now has a > piece of cardboard and a scrap of plywood nailed over the window. > > They didn't even bother to leave a note or lock the gate behind them. > They left the gate swinging in the wind, letting any passerby know > that we were gone for Thanksgiving. > > When D&L first fired up the smoker and we couldn't open our windows > for days we spoke to them about the impact of their vent on the > surrounding houses. We were met with blank faced, arrogant > indifference and, not surprisingly, that's what we got when we asked > about them trespassing on our property. > > Later, the maitre d'/waiter admitted to coming into our yard but he > claimed he didn't break the gate. > > So we filed a police report and had to have the police go into the > restaurant and talk to them. > > Does anyone know who owns that building now? 1206 Main St. > > Any advice on this kind of issue is appreciated. > > Linda Griggs > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
