[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
I read it, loud and clear! Why would a firm put out a release like this, if it weren't true? If not, then, just who IS the developer? What is Asbury Partners, supposed to be doing, in this regard? I'm totally confused! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "apoojo" wrote: > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "jerseyjohn99" > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > You guys missed the most important Asbury related fact of the > > > Freehold mall expansion. > > > To compare, Madison Marquette was named developer in May '06: > > > > > i get the jist of your post but i do not believe madison marquette > was > > ever named a developer, i could be wrong, and i do not believe may > 06 > > is the correct date, while i believe they are here to stay and > will be > > beneficial, others have posted their amazement that there has not > been > > any large press release > > > == > > I think this press release in 2006 is very specific and clear. > Perhaps you missed it, here it is again: > > http://tinyurl.com/2nlray > > Werner > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "jerseyjohn99" > wrote: > > > i get the jist of your post but i do not believe madison marquette was > ever named a developer, i could be wrong, and i do not believe may 06 > is the correct date, while i believe they are here to stay and will be > beneficial, others have posted their amazement that there has not been > any large press release > It was May 2006. I remember exactly because I was away at my daugther's college graduation. In any event, you are correct, they were not "named" a developer but a joint venture partner for the retail. In fact, as Werner pointed out to me a while ago, and as I reiterated to Reidy last week, the City cannot name or approve MM as a subdeveloper. The waterfront, or the retail properties thereon, are private property and not subdeveloper parcels. I think Werner will specify that the WRA stops east of Ocean Ave. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You guys missed the most important Asbury related fact of the > Freehold mall expansion. It was proposed in July '06, approved > Sept '06, groundbreaking was Feb '07, and tenants will be in by > Nov '07. 16 months from dream to reality, and if it wasn't for > Holiday Shopping crowds, construction would have started earlier. We missed it like we miss sleep. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
> In the same time Asbury turned ratables into parking lots, Freehold > is turning parking lots into ratables. Freehold is also allowing them to turn "wetlands" and woods into parking lots... And don't think PF Changs (a fun time in Ft. Lauderdale.. with reasonable prices and decent food), Cheesecake etc are done expanding. There not done expanding. There's another intesting shore town that could welcome them in. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "apoojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "jerseyjohn99" > wrote: > > > >> > > > > You guys missed the most important Asbury related fact of the > > Freehold mall expansion. > > To compare, Madison Marquette was named developer in May '06: > > > i get the jist of your post but i do not believe madison marquette was > ever named a developer, i could be wrong, and i do not believe may 06 > is the correct date, while i believe they are here to stay and will be > beneficial, others have posted their amazement that there has not been > any large press release > == I think this press release in 2006 is very specific and clear. Perhaps you missed it, here it is again: http://tinyurl.com/2nlray Werner Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > You guys missed the most important Asbury related fact of the > Freehold mall expansion. > To compare, Madison Marquette was named developer in May '06: > i get the jist of your post but i do not believe madison marquette was ever named a developer, i could be wrong, and i do not believe may 06 is the correct date, while i believe they are here to stay and will be beneficial, others have posted their amazement that there has not been any large press release Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...and while you may not like PF changs, cheesecake etc - they all > are a draw, cause that's what people what to piss away their money > on. Golden Corral, Cheesecake etc - all have pretty good expansion > plans in NJ. Trust me. And, if you read the article, a fact - there > is NO commercial land around where they want to be. > > That's why you have the developers building the "outlet" center on > 66 - doing all the infrastructure before they even have final > approvals. Why? cause they have to beat out new land use regulations. > > YOu have a ton of new housing in the immediate area - and a need for > more and more "franchise" type of operations - like it or not. And - > as proven in AP, theres room for the non-standard palces as well. > Plenty of $$$ in the area to be spent. > > The partners are sitting on gold, and they now it. The that gets > built up around them, the shiner that pot gets. What they pay in > taxes is drop in the bucket to the final payoff. > > Something willhappen at the bc, the salvation army tower, another new > hotel - in time. > You guys missed the most important Asbury related fact of the Freehold mall expansion. It was proposed in July '06, approved Sept '06, groundbreaking was Feb '07, and tenants will be in by Nov '07. 16 months from dream to reality, and if it wasn't for Holiday Shopping crowds, construction would have started earlier. To compare, Madison Marquette was named developer in May '06: http://tinyurl.com/2nlray In the same time Asbury turned ratables into parking lots, Freehold is turning parking lots into ratables. Yet the story doesn't even mention who the developer was on the project? I wonder if the taxpayers of Freehold even care who the developer is and what awards he has won? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > The partners are sitting on gold, and they now it. The that gets > built up around them, the shiner that pot gets. What they pay in > taxes is drop in the bucket to the final payoff. ... == Exactly why I recommended that the City retain ownership of the beachfront and lease it out. The most valuable property is that closest to the ocean. It will increase in value as adjoining development takes place. The City (taxpayers) would have enjoyed the benefits of the most valable real estate in Asbury Park instead of a private party. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
...and while you may not like PF changs, cheesecake etc - they all are a draw, cause that's what people what to piss away their money on. Golden Corral, Cheesecake etc - all have pretty good expansion plans in NJ. Trust me. And, if you read the article, a fact - there is NO commercial land around where they want to be. That's why you have the developers building the "outlet" center on 66 - doing all the infrastructure before they even have final approvals. Why? cause they have to beat out new land use regulations. YOu have a ton of new housing in the immediate area - and a need for more and more "franchise" type of operations - like it or not. And - as proven in AP, theres room for the non-standard palces as well. Plenty of $$$ in the area to be spent. The partners are sitting on gold, and they now it. The that gets built up around them, the shiner that pot gets. What they pay in taxes is drop in the bucket to the final payoff. Something willhappen at the bc, the salvation army tower, another new hotel - in time. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP - choice for Nero
"driving down Route 9 in Lakewood yesterday late afternoon and I could have SWORN I heard the sounds of a fiddle. Great analogy. But who's your choice for Nero?" Can it be any but the council that signed this development deal? They collected and added to combustibles by failing to act as though time were of some essence, provided the ignition granting 10 years of abatements and guaranteed the conflagration locking in 30 years of mischief. I wonder what, at this late date, they were doing in Lakewood. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I missed the fire, but I was driving down Route 9 in Lakewood > yesterday late afternoon and I could have SWORN I heard the sounds > of a fiddle. > > Great analogy. But who's your choice for Nero? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 02/27/06 > BY NANCY SHIELDS > STAFF WRITER > City officials > have said for nearly a decade that the department needs a new > firehouse because of the condition of the old one. Sure Nancy, if your idea of a decade is 50 years. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
I'm a little confused. Was the firehouse evacuated before the Belmont burned, or after? I missed the fire, but I was driving down Route 9 in Lakewood yesterday late afternoon and I could have SWORN I heard the sounds of a fiddle. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 02/27/06 > BY NANCY SHIELDS > STAFF WRITER > ASBURY PARK Fire officials evacuated their more than a century- old > three-story firehouse today after the state Public Employees > Occupational Safety & Health came in to investigate a sagging second > floor. > > The city had been evaluating a 3-inch dip in the floor in the bunk > room and reached out Monday for Michael Jahn, the city construction > official. An employee had complained to PEOSH, which brought that > agency to the firehouse. > > Fire Director John Murphy said the Fort Monmouth Fire Department was > helping to shore up the floor but predicted the firefighters - a > full-time paid work force - will be out of the building for at least > a week because of the eminent hazard. > > The decision to evacuate was made at 12:30 p.m., he said. A > structural engineer was being brought in to evaluate the entire > building. > > The firehouse switchboard will remain operational between 3 and 4 > p.m. today and then the county emergency switchboard will take over, > Murphy said. > > The city's public works yard on Main street could become the > temporary home of the firefighters, who also run the city's > emergency response system. > > City Manager Terence Reidy said Monday that some of the beams under > the second floor are sagging and are being shored up. City officials > have said for nearly a decade that the department needs a new > firehouse because of the condition of the old one. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
