[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right spews venom toward Jim Keady

[oakdorf]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jwkeady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

Class at least here and if you bump into him. 

Thought of JK last night while watching leno in and out of sleep...as
leno told this "joke"...when something like - 

The financial crisis hits manufactures as well in chinacompanies
have to close down causing a problem...now all those eight year old
kids have to go back to school...






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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right spews venom toward Jim Keady

[Jack Pitzer]

You are a good man Jim Keady. Best wishes for the holidays and with all of your 
future 
pursuits.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jwkeady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jack, 
> 
> Thank you for your concern, I sincerely appreciate it.  Given my line 
> of work and the stands I have taken on social justice issues in the past
> (both in my professional life and on Council), Mr. DeSeno's ad hominem 
> attack was not the first, nor will it likely be the last, levied 
> against me.  It is part of the job so to speak and I gain solace and 
> strength from my belief in social justice warriors that have gone 
> before me.  As imperfect as I am (and believe me, there is no shortage 
> of examples of my falls from grace), I try to follow the words and 
> actions of my heroes - St. Ignatius, St. Francis, Archbishop Romero, 
> Dorothy Day, Jesus of Nazareth.  It was Jesus who said:
> 
> "But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute 
> you" - Matthew 5:44 (NIV translation) 
> 
> I have never seen Mr. DeSeno as an enemy, it is he who has 
> unfortunately chosen to take that posture regarding me.  Perhaps in the 
> future that will change, I guess time will tell.  
> 
> For the moment, I sincerely wish you a Merry Christmas Tommy.  I pray 
> that you and your family enjoy this Holyday season and that 2009 brings 
> you all that you hope for.  
> 
> Peace, JWK
>






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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right spews venom toward Jim Keady

[jwkeady]

Jack, 

Thank you for your concern, I sincerely appreciate it.  Given my line 
of work and the stands I have taken on social justice issues in the past
(both in my professional life and on Council), Mr. DeSeno's ad hominem 
attack was not the first, nor will it likely be the last, levied 
against me.  It is part of the job so to speak and I gain solace and 
strength from my belief in social justice warriors that have gone 
before me.  As imperfect as I am (and believe me, there is no shortage 
of examples of my falls from grace), I try to follow the words and 
actions of my heroes - St. Ignatius, St. Francis, Archbishop Romero, 
Dorothy Day, Jesus of Nazareth.  It was Jesus who said:

"But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute 
you" - Matthew 5:44 (NIV translation) 

I have never seen Mr. DeSeno as an enemy, it is he who has 
unfortunately chosen to take that posture regarding me.  Perhaps in the 
future that will change, I guess time will tell.  

For the moment, I sincerely wish you a Merry Christmas Tommy.  I pray 
that you and your family enjoy this Holyday season and that 2009 brings 
you all that you hope for.  

Peace, JWK 







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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right spews venom toward Jim Keady

[Jack Pitzer]

I posted it, because Jim always made the effort to reach out to us here. Most 
of us thanked 
him for his service to the city. 
When I read JR's rant, it just blew me away because of his use of 
"personalization" and 
outright character assassination.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I really wish you hadn't reprinted this toilet mold of an opinion.
> 
> On Dec 5, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Jack Pitzer wrote:
> 
> > Posters note - please take notice of the ludicrous moment when JR  
> > calls JK "A Bill Ayers
> > wannabe." He also seems to refuse to acknowledge the good work that  
> > JK does in trying
> > to prevent child labor over seas, and puts him down because he's  
> > trying to make a
> > difference in the world. Finally, he refers to JK as "A constant  
> > attention prostitute"
> > Seems to be a bit of the pot calling the kettle black. Amazing  
> > stuff
> >
> > "To call Jim Keady liberal doesn't draw the picture. He's a  
> > leftist. And he just quit his
> > elected position as Councilman in Asbury Park, 6 months shy of the  
> > end of his term.
> >
> > Despite his claims of undying commitment to the poor of Asbury Park  
> > during his
> > campaign, Keady now says he is too busy for them.
> >
> > He runs a non-profit dedicated primarily to complaining about the  
> > Nike company, who he
> > thinks are slave traders or something (see picture). His company  
> > Educating for Justice
> > fights other windmills around the world too, but more troubling is  
> > that he travels the
> > country where colleges allow him to give seminars to students about  
> > the evils of
> > capitalism.
> >
> > A Bill Ayers wannabe.
> >
> > Even in a City that just voted 9 to 1 Democrat, Jim Keady is  
> > alarmingly left.
> >
> > I've been to speeches by him where audience members yelled  
> > "Communist" in response to
> > his words.
> >
> > From the dais he would read excerpts from books by such notorious  
> > America-haters as
> > Howard Zinn, while he tried to end long held Asbury Park traditions  
> > like the Columbus Day
> > Landing.
> >
> > Bringing condescension to new lows, the thirty-something gen-Xer  
> > felt he needed to
> > "counsel" every person he spoke to as if they needed it, often  
> > handing out reading lists to
> > people to improve themselves when in fact the people he was  
> > speaking to were on a
> > higher moral plane than him.
> >
> > A constant attention prostitute, he sought out media whenever  
> > possible and was noted for
> > sandbagging fellow councilmembers with surprise grandiose  
> > pronouncements designed
> > for no other purpose than to make himself look relevant.
> >
> > His gaffes in his short career were many.
> >
> > He got caught overstating the amount of gang members in Asbury Park  
> > by 12x the real
> > number and met the wrath of the business community. He played the  
> > liberal victimology
> > card and ended up with nothing but a bad beat on the hand.
> >
> > He got caught entering the High School without permission to play  
> > make believe Dr. Phil
> > by counseling students, even though he isn't qualified to do so. He  
> > was taken to task by
> > the President of the Board of Education for it.
> >
> > He was on the failed side of an effort to build in a residential  
> > community a Shelter run by a
> > company notorious for housing child molesters. The Shelter would  
> > have been a few blocks
> > from a grammar school.
> >
> > Keady always voted "no" on Eminent Domain issues as if he were  
> > righteous, but likely
> > because he knew there were three votes for "yes" to pass the  
> > measures. That theory was
> > proved true when he was asked to help write a plan to develop  
> > Springwood Avenue. He
> > wrote the City's power of Eminent Domain into the plan.
> >
> > Here are a list of his accomplishments as City Councilman:
> >
> > 1.
> >
> > 2.
> >
> > 3.
> >
> > Good Riddance, Lefty.
> >
> > DLTDHYITAOTWO."
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>






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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> 
> >This country was 
> > founded by people with a Christian background who largely rejected 
> > organized religion.
> 
> The fact that they all went to church must have escaped your 
attention.
>
In fact you are wrong with regard to the Founding Fathers, Adams, 
Washington, Jefferson, namely, were not regular church goers. There was 
just a book written in the last year or so (not founding fathers), I 
can't remember the title. A little busy now - Mario will you do the 
honors?



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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

Wow Mario after reading this I'm convinced you must be a tenured 
public school teacher.  I weep for your students.

Can you think for yourself at all? Jump off the Internet and read a 
book once in awhile.

Hitler was a Catholic apostate.  Once he became an adult, he never 
went to a church service again.

The only time he would nod to Christianity in speeches was to 
convince people that its purpose was to wipe out Jews.  Other 
writings reveal his plan to eventually wipe out Christian beliefs in 
favor of "natural harmony"  That's the cornerstone of secular 
humanist beliefs.

Read Hitlers own words and look at his actions to make up your own 
mind.  He was pure social Darwinist.

And I see you just can't stop posting about me.

Sorry group that you have to read this, but you saw this guy attack 
me for even politely ending a conversation telling him to "take 
care."

He's full of hate, like his non-religious heroes.



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:You think  Hitler was religious?
> 
> 
>  
>  
>  
> I  wrote:
> 
> And then  there were those deeply "religious" countries Germany 
and Italy to 
> name the  most familiar examples of Christian countries that had  
no problem 
> cozying up, quite comfortably,  with fascism:   Hitler, Mussolini. 
et al.
> 
> 
> My sources:
>  
> See the Catholic Encyclopedia for the cozy relationship:  
> _http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_ss33co.htm_ 
> (http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_ss33co.htm) 
> ===
> Many of Nazi Germany's leadership were, like Adolf Hitler, Roman 
Catholics,  
> people like Heinrich Himmler, Joseph Goebbels, Reinhard Heydrich, 
and Rudolf  
> Hoess, (not to be confused with Hitler's Deputy Führer and 
secretary, Rudolf  
> Hess). Hermann Goering, on the other hand, had mixed Catholic-
Protestant  
> parentage, while Rudolf Hess, Martin Bormann, Albert Speer, and 
Adolf Eichmann  
> had Protestant backgrounds. Not one of the top Nazi leaders was  
raised in a 
> liberal or atheistic family."  
>  
> Hitler also tried to incorporate the Churches  into his new 
regime. On March 
> 23, 1933 he had called them "most important  factors" for the 
maintenance of 
> German well-being. In regard to the Roman  Catholic Church, he 
proposed a 
> Reichskonkordat between Germany and the Holy See,  that was signed 
in July. In 
> regard to the Protestant Church, he used church  elections to push 
the 
> Nazi-inspired "German Christians" to power.
>  
> Rural protestant areas gave the Nazis the biggest vote margins.
>  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:You think  Hitler was religious?


 
 
 
I  wrote:

And then  there were those deeply "religious" countries Germany and Italy to 
name the  most familiar examples of Christian countries that had  no problem 
cozying up, quite comfortably,  with fascism:   Hitler, Mussolini. et al.


My sources:
 
See the Catholic Encyclopedia for the cozy relationship:  
_http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_ss33co.htm_ 
(http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_ss33co.htm) 
===
Many of Nazi Germany's leadership were, like Adolf Hitler, Roman Catholics,  
people like Heinrich Himmler, Joseph Goebbels, Reinhard Heydrich, and Rudolf  
Hoess, (not to be confused with Hitler's Deputy Führer and secretary, Rudolf  
Hess). Hermann Goering, on the other hand, had mixed Catholic-Protestant  
parentage, while Rudolf Hess, Martin Bormann, Albert Speer, and Adolf Eichmann  
had Protestant backgrounds. Not one of the top Nazi leaders was  raised in a 
liberal or atheistic family."  
 
Hitler also tried to incorporate the Churches  into his new regime. On March 
23, 1933 he had called them "most important  factors" for the maintenance of 
German well-being. In regard to the Roman  Catholic Church, he proposed a 
Reichskonkordat between Germany and the Holy See,  that was signed in July. In 
regard to the Protestant Church, he used church  elections to push the 
Nazi-inspired "German Christians" to power.
 
Rural protestant areas gave the Nazis the biggest vote margins.
 
_Churches  in Nazi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=938393&lastnode_id=0)  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

In reference to the  commenst: 


You think Hitler was religious? He was a  social Darwinist. He believed in 
the survival of the fittest theory, annointed  Germans most fit, and figured he 
would speed up the process by killing the  
Jews who he saw as inferior. Darwinism gone  wild.


The country was religious; heavy duty Protestant and Catholic.  
 


That being said, don't address  anything I post.
 
Sounds like a Fascist command; I' sure you didn't mean it to sound that  way.
 

The board does not want to read you and  I going at it.

 
I have absolutely no interest in a dialogue with you; just taking care of  
the kind of history that gets posted here, for the record.
 
Can't debate with ideologues; they just drag you to their level.
 
 

Original  Message     Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  
Date: 3/7/2007 11:09:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time  From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:

 
 
Obviously the High School you teach at is free.

You think Hitler was  religious? He was a social Darwinist. He 
believed in the survival of the  fittest theory, annointed Germans 
most fit, and figured he would speed up  the process by killing the 
Jews who he saw as inferior.

Darwinism  gone wild.

That being said, don't address anything I post. The board does  not 
want to read you and I going at it.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  Mari
>
> 
> In reference to this profound  analysist: 
> 
> 
> Stalin - Hitler - Mao. About 20 million  dead thanks to the 3 non-
religious 
> guys. I'll take the believers as  leaders any day.
> 
> 
> 
> And then there were those  deeply "religious" countries Germany and 
Italy to 
> name the most  familiar examples of Christian countries that had no 
problem 
>  cozying up, quite comfortably, with fascism: Hitler, Mussolini. 
et  al.
> 
> The folks who conducted the Salem witch trials were very  
religious. And the 
> folks who hounded Galileo?
> 
> The  inquisition? All heavy-duty believers.
> 
> And the folks who see  Jesus or Mary in Dunkin' Donuts?
> 
> And the puritans who beheaded  a King; they could only lead for 
12 years 
> before they were booted  out.
> 
>    ==  ==  ==  ==  
>  
> 
> 
> 
> Beware the self-proclaimed political  theorists who provide 
information "a 
> mile wide, and an inch  shallow."
> 
> Sometimes they're merely cherry-picking  ideologues.
> 
> Original Message= ==
> Subj:  [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right Date: 3/7/2007 9:30:38 
P.M. Eastern  
> Standard Time From: _justifiedright@ Stan
>  (mailto:justifiedri  (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@_As_ 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) _  
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) )  
> Sent on: 
> 
> 
> 
> Jack if it is fair to  bring up examples of religious people you 
> think have failed, then I  suppose it is fair for me to bring to 
your 
> attention three  non-religious, Secular Humanist/Darwinists of the 
> 20th Century:
>  
> Stalin - Hitler - Mao.
> 
> About 20 million dead thanks to  the 3 non-religious guys.
> 
> I'll take the believers as leaders  any day.
> 
> --- In _AsburyPark@ --- In _AsburyPar 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) )  , 
> "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > I don't  want to change the fact that I "live in a religious 
> country"
>  > I just don't want it affecting my life. 
> > As for America being  very religious, perhaps it is, but I think 
> that
> > in many  regards, America's religious establishments have made a
> > mockery of  themselves. Take all the priest sex scandals? What 
about
> > people  like GW who's very religious, but he's lied to the 
public 
> on  a
> > number of occasions (although maybe he was just relaying info  he
> > thought was true). Before and during the war, GW has brought  
God 
> into
> > nearly every speech he's done, yet because of  his misguided 
war, 
> 3100
> > plus US soldiers, and  countless Iraqi's have died. What about 
the 
> Abu
> > Grabe  abuse? What "god" would let that happen? What about the 
anti
> >  abortion religious kooks who think it's ok to blow up clinics 
and 
>  harm
> > innocent people?
> > As far as i'm concerned,  religion is not a fact. I'd be happy to
> > change that opinion if  somebody could provide me with absolute 
> proof,
> > but I don't  see that happening anytime soon
> > --- In  _AsburyPark@ --- In  _Asbury
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:

[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

Obviously the High School you teach at is free.

You think Hitler was religious?  He was a social Darwinist.  He 
believed in the survival of the fittest theory, annointed Germans 
most fit, and figured he would speed up the process by killing the 
Jews who he saw as inferior.

Darwinism gone wild.

That being said, don't address anything I post.  The board does not 
want to read you and I going at it.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> In reference to this  profound analysist: 
> 
> 
> Stalin - Hitler - Mao. About 20 million  dead thanks to the 3 non-
religious 
> guys. I'll take the believers as leaders  any day.
> 
>  
> 
> And then there were those deeply "religious" countries Germany and 
Italy to  
> name the most familiar examples of Christian countries that had no 
problem  
> cozying up, quite comfortably,  with fascism:  Hitler, Mussolini.  
et al.
>  
> The folks who conducted the Salem witch trials were very 
religious.   And the 
> folks who hounded Galileo?
>  
> The inquisition? All heavy-duty believers.
>  
> And the folks who see Jesus or Mary in Dunkin' Donuts?
>  
> And the puritans who beheaded a King;  they could only lead for 
12  years 
> before they were booted out.
>  
> ===
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Beware the self-proclaimed political theorists who provide 
information "a  
> mile wide, and an inch shallow."
>  
> Sometimes they're merely cherry-picking ideologues.
> 
> Original Message
> Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/7/2007 9:30:38 
P.M. Eastern 
> Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   
> Sent on:
> 
>  
>  
> Jack if it is fair to bring up examples of religious people you 
> think  have failed, then I suppose it is fair for me to bring to 
your 
> attention  three non-religious, Secular Humanist/Darwinists of the 
> 20th  Century:
> 
> Stalin - Hitler - Mao.
> 
> About 20 million dead thanks to  the 3 non-religious guys.
> 
> I'll take the believers as leaders any  day.
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > I don't want to change  the fact that I "live in a religious 
> country"
> > I just don't want it  affecting my life. 
> > As for America being very religious, perhaps it is,  but I think 
> that
> > in many regards, America's religious establishments  have made a
> > mockery of themselves. Take all the priest sex scandals?  What 
about
> > people like GW who's very religious, but he's lied to the  
public 
> on a
> > number of occasions (although maybe he was just relaying  info he
> > thought was true). Before and during the war, GW has brought 
God  
> into
> > nearly every speech he's done, yet because of his misguided  
war, 
> 3100
> > plus US soldiers, and countless Iraqi's have died. What  about 
the 
> Abu
> > Grabe abuse? What "god" would let that happen? What  about the 
anti
> > abortion religious kooks who think it's ok to blow up  clinics 
and 
> harm
> > innocent people?
> > As far as i'm concerned,  religion is not a fact. I'd be happy to
> > change that opinion if somebody  could provide me with absolute 
> proof,
> > but I don't see that happening  anytime soon
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> "justifiedright"
> >  wrote:
> >  >
> > > The point is you are living in a religious country. You want  
to 
> > > change that, and that's your right to try. However, you have 
no  
> > > right to stop me from pointing out that your prior posts 
seemed  
> to 
> > > ignore history and law.
> > > 
> > > America  is a very religious country.
> > > 
> > > You feel religion plays  to big a role in our governing. I say 
> its 
> > > too small.
> >  > 
> > > To each our own.
> > > 
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , 
>  "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is your  point that because i'm in the minority when it 
comes to
> > > >  religion, my views are any less important? Is your point 
that 
> I 
> >  > just
> > > > have to accept the fact that religious influence on  issue's 
in 
> our
> > > > country are correct? I think the religious  influence is way 
> out of
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

 
In reference to this  profound analysist: 


Stalin - Hitler - Mao. About 20 million  dead thanks to the 3 non-religious 
guys. I'll take the believers as leaders  any day.

 

And then there were those deeply "religious" countries Germany and Italy to  
name the most familiar examples of Christian countries that had no problem  
cozying up, quite comfortably,  with fascism:  Hitler, Mussolini.  et al.
 
The folks who conducted the Salem witch trials were very religious.   And the 
folks who hounded Galileo?
 
The inquisition? All heavy-duty believers.
 
And the folks who see Jesus or Mary in Dunkin' Donuts?
 
And the puritans who beheaded a King;  they could only lead for 12  years 
before they were booted out.
 
===
 
 
 
 
Beware the self-proclaimed political theorists who provide information "a  
mile wide, and an inch shallow."
 
Sometimes they're merely cherry-picking ideologues.

====Original Message====
Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/7/2007 9:30:38 P.M. Eastern 
Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   
Sent on:

 
 
Jack if it is fair to bring up examples of religious people you 
think  have failed, then I suppose it is fair for me to bring to your 
attention  three non-religious, Secular Humanist/Darwinists of the 
20th  Century:

Stalin - Hitler - Mao.

About 20 million dead thanks to  the 3 non-religious guys.

I'll take the believers as leaders any  day.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
"Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't want to change  the fact that I "live in a religious 
country"
> I just don't want it  affecting my life. 
> As for America being very religious, perhaps it is,  but I think 
that
> in many regards, America's religious establishments  have made a
> mockery of themselves. Take all the priest sex scandals?  What about
> people like GW who's very religious, but he's lied to the  public 
on a
> number of occasions (although maybe he was just relaying  info he
> thought was true). Before and during the war, GW has brought God  
into
> nearly every speech he's done, yet because of his misguided  war, 
3100
> plus US soldiers, and countless Iraqi's have died. What  about the 
Abu
> Grabe abuse? What "god" would let that happen? What  about the anti
> abortion religious kooks who think it's ok to blow up  clinics and 
harm
> innocent people?
> As far as i'm concerned,  religion is not a fact. I'd be happy to
> change that opinion if somebody  could provide me with absolute 
proof,
> but I don't see that happening  anytime soon
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
"justifiedright"
>  wrote:
>  >
> > The point is you are living in a religious country. You want  to 
> > change that, and that's your right to try. However, you have no  
> > right to stop me from pointing out that your prior posts seemed  
to 
> > ignore history and law.
> > 
> > America  is a very religious country.
> > 
> > You feel religion plays  to big a role in our governing. I say 
its 
> > too small.
>  > 
> > To each our own.
> > 
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , 
 "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Is your  point that because i'm in the minority when it comes to
> > >  religion, my views are any less important? Is your point that 
I 
>  > just
> > > have to accept the fact that religious influence on  issue's in 
our
> > > country are correct? I think the religious  influence is way 
out of
> > > control. I really don't think it  has any place in the 
governing of 
> > our
> > >  country. 
> > > 
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) 
,  "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  And? What's your point?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  "justifiedright"
> > > >   wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You may not be  religious, but your country is.
> > > > > 
> > >  > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  "Hinge"  
wrote:
> > > > > >
>  > > > > > You are partially right;
> > > > >  > "The first amendment to the US Constitution 
states "Congress 
>  > shall 
> > > > > make no law 
> > > > >  > respecting an 

[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

Tommy, 
I'll send you an email rather then discuss this on the board. I sort of feel 
bad for injecting 
a discussion about religion here. I think I took it a little too far.
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jack if it is fair to bring up examples of religious people you 
> think have failed, then I suppose it is fair for me to bring to your 
> attention three non-religious, Secular Humanist/Darwinists of the 
> 20th Century:
> 
> Stalin - Hitler - Mao.
> 
> About 20 million dead thanks to the 3 non-religious guys.
> 
> I'll take the believers as leaders any day.
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > I don't want to change the fact that I "live in a religious 
> country"
> > I just don't want it affecting my life. 
> > As for America being very religious, perhaps it is, but I think 
> that
> > in many regards, America's religious establishments have made a
> > mockery of themselves. Take all the priest sex scandals? What about
> > people like GW who's very religious, but he's lied to the public 
> on a
> > number of occasions (although maybe he was just relaying info he
> > thought was true). Before and during the war, GW has brought God 
> into
> > nearly every speech he's done, yet because of his misguided war, 
> 3100
> > plus US soldiers, and countless Iraqi's have died. What about the 
> Abu
> > Grabe abuse? What "god" would let that happen? What about the anti
> > abortion religious kooks who think it's ok to blow up clinics and 
> harm
> > innocent people?
> > As far as i'm concerned, religion is not a fact. I'd be happy to
> > change that opinion if somebody could provide me with absolute 
> proof,
> > but I don't see that happening anytime soon
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > The point is you are living in a religious country.  You want to 
> > > change that, and that's your right to try. However, you have no 
> > > right to stop me from pointing out that your prior posts seemed 
> to 
> > > ignore history and law.
> > > 
> > > America is a very religious country.
> > > 
> > > You feel religion plays to big a role in our governing. I say 
> its 
> > > too small.
> > > 
> > > To each our own.
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is your point that because i'm in the minority when it comes to
> > > > religion, my views are any less important? Is your point that 
> I 
> > > just
> > > > have to accept the fact that religious influence on issue's in 
> our
> > > > country are correct? I think the religious influence is way 
> out of
> > > > control. I really don't think it has any place in the 
> governing of 
> > > our
> > > > country. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > And? What's your point?
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You may not be religious, but your country is.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are partially right;
> > > > > > > "The first amendment to the US Constitution 
> states "Congress 
> > > shall 
> > > > > > make no law 
> > > > > > > respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting 
> the 
> > > free 
> > > > > > exercise thereof". Both 
> > > > > > > these clauses, known as the "establishment clause" and 
> > > the "free 
> > > > > > exercise clause" 
> > > > > > > respectively, are significant. To give perspective, 
> there 
> > > was a 
> > > > > > great conservation of 
> > > > > > > language in the Bill of Rights; the intention was to 
> avoid 
> > > > > > creating loopholes, while still 
> > > > > > > providing a buffer between the Legislature and the most 
> > > basic 
> > > > > > rights of the people. It is 
> > > > > > > significant, then, that there are two clauses where one 
> > > would 
> > > > > > suffice, were the intention 
> > > > > > > only to prevent respect for a religious establishment or 
> > > only to 
> > > > > > protect free exercise."
> > > > > > > Even though i'm a non-believer, I respect people that 
> do. I 
> > > just 
> > > > > > feel that religion is playing 
> > > > > > > way to big a role in our countries politics. That role 
> is 
> > > making 
> > > > > > an assumption that religion 
> > > > > > > is "fact" and that we are all religious.
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > But it's in the Constitution.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > No it isn't.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every 
> single 
> > > time 
> > > > > > that 
> > > > > > > > > religion has an influence in the decisions made in 
> our 
> > > country.
> > > > 

[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

Jack if it is fair to bring up examples of religious people you 
think have failed, then I suppose it is fair for me to bring to your 
attention three non-religious, Secular Humanist/Darwinists of the 
20th Century:

Stalin - Hitler - Mao.

About 20 million dead thanks to the 3 non-religious guys.

I'll take the believers as leaders any day.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't want to change the fact that I "live in a religious 
country"
> I just don't want it affecting my life. 
> As for America being very religious, perhaps it is, but I think 
that
> in many regards, America's religious establishments have made a
> mockery of themselves. Take all the priest sex scandals? What about
> people like GW who's very religious, but he's lied to the public 
on a
> number of occasions (although maybe he was just relaying info he
> thought was true). Before and during the war, GW has brought God 
into
> nearly every speech he's done, yet because of his misguided war, 
3100
> plus US soldiers, and countless Iraqi's have died. What about the 
Abu
> Grabe abuse? What "god" would let that happen? What about the anti
> abortion religious kooks who think it's ok to blow up clinics and 
harm
> innocent people?
> As far as i'm concerned, religion is not a fact. I'd be happy to
> change that opinion if somebody could provide me with absolute 
proof,
> but I don't see that happening anytime soon
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
>  wrote:
> >
> > The point is you are living in a religious country.  You want to 
> > change that, and that's your right to try. However, you have no 
> > right to stop me from pointing out that your prior posts seemed 
to 
> > ignore history and law.
> > 
> > America is a very religious country.
> > 
> > You feel religion plays to big a role in our governing. I say 
its 
> > too small.
> > 
> > To each our own.
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Is your point that because i'm in the minority when it comes to
> > > religion, my views are any less important? Is your point that 
I 
> > just
> > > have to accept the fact that religious influence on issue's in 
our
> > > country are correct? I think the religious influence is way 
out of
> > > control. I really don't think it has any place in the 
governing of 
> > our
> > > country. 
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And? What's your point?
> > > > 
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You may not be religious, but your country is.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are partially right;
> > > > > > "The first amendment to the US Constitution 
states "Congress 
> > shall 
> > > > > make no law 
> > > > > > respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting 
the 
> > free 
> > > > > exercise thereof". Both 
> > > > > > these clauses, known as the "establishment clause" and 
> > the "free 
> > > > > exercise clause" 
> > > > > > respectively, are significant. To give perspective, 
there 
> > was a 
> > > > > great conservation of 
> > > > > > language in the Bill of Rights; the intention was to 
avoid 
> > > > > creating loopholes, while still 
> > > > > > providing a buffer between the Legislature and the most 
> > basic 
> > > > > rights of the people. It is 
> > > > > > significant, then, that there are two clauses where one 
> > would 
> > > > > suffice, were the intention 
> > > > > > only to prevent respect for a religious establishment or 
> > only to 
> > > > > protect free exercise."
> > > > > > Even though i'm a non-believer, I respect people that 
do. I 
> > just 
> > > > > feel that religion is playing 
> > > > > > way to big a role in our countries politics. That role 
is 
> > making 
> > > > > an assumption that religion 
> > > > > > is "fact" and that we are all religious.
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > But it's in the Constitution.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > No it isn't.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every 
single 
> > time 
> > > > > that 
> > > > > > > > religion has an influence in the decisions made in 
our 
> > country.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So I should be forced to denounce my religion before 
> > entering a 
> > > > > voting 
> > > > > > > booth?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>This country was 
> founded by people with a Christian background who largely rejected 
> organized religion.

The fact that they all went to church must have escaped your attention.




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[2fine4u]

Jim,
I salute you and all you do, for your Legion Post, 523 and the VFW, on
Lake Ave and to all of the Veterans Groups in Asbury Park, which
includes the Civil War Re-enactment Group, The Jewish War Veterans,
The Catholic War Veterans, Post 24, The Sons of Italy, Post 266, which
originated in Asbury Park, back in 1922, Post 2639 VFW, in Neptune,
American Legion Post 346, Neptune, The Lions Clubs, Rotary Clubs and
The Elks of Asbury and Neptune.  All of the aforementioned groups,
support our troops and veterans.  Anyone who sees Old Glory flying in
Asbury Park, have you to thank, for it! Let's hope that the
revelation, of the conditions at the Army Hospital, in Washington,
ensure that this never happens again!  God Bless!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u"  wrote:
> >
> > Mario,
> > You have my full support!  I also receive how Rep. Pallone votes and
> > on what issues.  His district is large and I receive notifications on
> > where he is appearing within District 6.  

> 
> God Bless You *~Sharon~* you are a very dear person.People like
yourself brings a special meaning to our Flag that brings us the
Freedom to write our feelings on this board some Countries it would
never happen alot wound be put in jail.We all have to answer to one
person in the end.I have nothing to hide.However some here have to ask
for some forgiving one day. 
>  
> James Grabe Just another Veteran in Asbury Park.   
> 
> ~~~
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
> > >
> > >  
> > > Hello  justifiedright@,
> > > In reference to your  comment: 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > He ignored his Asbury constituent.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I get continual reports from C-Span's MegaVote such as this:
> > >  
> > > March 5, 2007
> > > 
> > > In this  MegaVote for New Jersey's 6th Congressional District:
> > > 
> > > Recent  Congressional Votes -
> > > House: Employee Free  Choice Act
> > > 
> > > Upcoming  Congressional Bills -
> > > Senate: 9/11  Commission Recommendations bill
> > > House: Healthy  Communities Water Supply Act of 2007
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Recent House  Votes_Employee  Free Choice Act_ 
> > >
> >
(http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?votenum=118&chamber=H&congress=1101)
> >  - Vote Passed (241-185, 8 
> > > Not  Voting)
> > > 
> > > This bill is intended to make it easier for a plant to  unionize and
> > would 
> > > end the right of employers to request secret-ballot  elections. 
> > > 
> > > Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. voted YES..
> > >  
> > > 
> > > _Small  Business Tax Relief Act_ 
> > >
> >
(http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?votenum=102&chamber=H&congress=1101)
> >  - Vote Passed (360-45, 28 Not  Voting)
> > > 
> > > The House approved this $1.3 billion package of small business tax 
> > breaks 
> > > intended to be combined with the minimum wage increase.
> > > 
> > > Rep. Frank Pallone  Jr. voted YES..
> > >  
> > > And lots more I approve of here:  
> > > _http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm_
> > (http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm) 
> > >  
> > > His voting record is super fine with me.  
> > >  
> > > Regarding the slight regarding my inquiry about the remarks you 
> > allege he 
> > > made, it's petty in the grand scheme of things.  Petty  Outrage is
> > your game, 
> > > not mine.
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Original Message
> > > Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/6/2007 7:25:12 P.M.
> > Eastern 
> > > Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > (mailto:justifiedright@)   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   
> > > Sent on:
> > > 
> > >  
> > >  
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> > > MarioAPNJ@,  Mari
> > > 
> > > > In reference to justifiedright' In reference
> > > > must I bring up Hillary's remarks against Jews and East  Indians?
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Of course you must. It's the rove-rushian way of  changing the 
> > > >subject.
> > > 
> > > It

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

 
Hello Dan,
In reference to your  comment: 


If you want religion to play a bigger  part in government - move to an 
Islamist country. The founding fathers were  Deists. I almost came to blows 
with my 
born again sister over this last  summer. This country was 
founded by people with a Christian background who  largely rejected organized 
religion.

 

Dan, as usual, is right on target.  
 
Moreover,  Bush’s top political advisers privately ridiculed  evangelical 
supporters as “nuts” and “goofy” while embracing them in public and  using 
their votes to help win elections. The former official also writes that  the 
White 
House office of faith-based initiatives, which Bush promoted as a  
non-political effort to support religious social service organizations, was 
told  to 
host pre-election events designed to mobilize religious voters who would most  
likely favor Republican candidates. 
_http://kevinbussey.wordpress.com/2006/10/13/white-house-advisers-mock-then-exploit-evangelical-supporters/_
 
(http://kevinbussey.wordpress.com/2006/10/13/white-house-advisers-mock-then-exploit-evangeli
cal-supporters/) 
 
 
 

Original Message
Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/7/2007 5:17:38 P.M. Eastern 
Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:

 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
"justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You  feel religion plays to big a role in our governing. I say its 
> too  small.
> 
> To each our own.

If you give me six lines  written
by the most honest man, I will find
something in them to hang  him.
—Cardinal Richelieu

If you want religion to play a bigger part in  government - move to an 
Islamist country. The founding fathers were Deists.  I almost came to 
blows with my born again sister over this last summer. This  country was 
founded by people with a Christian background who largely  rejected 
organized religion.


   
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You feel religion plays to big a role in our governing. I say its 
> too small.
> 
> To each our own.

If you give me six lines written
by the most honest man, I will find
something in them to hang him.
 —Cardinal Richelieu

If you want religion to play a bigger part in government - move to an 
Islamist country. The founding fathers were Deists. I almost came to 
blows with my born again sister over this last summer. This country was 
founded by people with a Christian background who largely rejected 
organized religion.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

I don't want to change the fact that I "live in a religious country"
I just don't want it affecting my life. 
As for America being very religious, perhaps it is, but I think that
in many regards, America's religious establishments have made a
mockery of themselves. Take all the priest sex scandals? What about
people like GW who's very religious, but he's lied to the public on a
number of occasions (although maybe he was just relaying info he
thought was true). Before and during the war, GW has brought God into
nearly every speech he's done, yet because of his misguided war, 3100
plus US soldiers, and countless Iraqi's have died. What about the Abu
Grabe abuse? What "god" would let that happen? What about the anti
abortion religious kooks who think it's ok to blow up clinics and harm
innocent people?
As far as i'm concerned, religion is not a fact. I'd be happy to
change that opinion if somebody could provide me with absolute proof,
but I don't see that happening anytime soon
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The point is you are living in a religious country.  You want to 
> change that, and that's your right to try. However, you have no 
> right to stop me from pointing out that your prior posts seemed to 
> ignore history and law.
> 
> America is a very religious country.
> 
> You feel religion plays to big a role in our governing. I say its 
> too small.
> 
> To each our own.
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > Is your point that because i'm in the minority when it comes to
> > religion, my views are any less important? Is your point that I 
> just
> > have to accept the fact that religious influence on issue's in our
> > country are correct? I think the religious influence is way out of
> > control. I really don't think it has any place in the governing of 
> our
> > country. 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > And? What's your point?
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You may not be religious, but your country is.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You are partially right;
> > > > > "The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress 
> shall 
> > > > make no law 
> > > > > respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the 
> free 
> > > > exercise thereof". Both 
> > > > > these clauses, known as the "establishment clause" and 
> the "free 
> > > > exercise clause" 
> > > > > respectively, are significant. To give perspective, there 
> was a 
> > > > great conservation of 
> > > > > language in the Bill of Rights; the intention was to avoid 
> > > > creating loopholes, while still 
> > > > > providing a buffer between the Legislature and the most 
> basic 
> > > > rights of the people. It is 
> > > > > significant, then, that there are two clauses where one 
> would 
> > > > suffice, were the intention 
> > > > > only to prevent respect for a religious establishment or 
> only to 
> > > > protect free exercise."
> > > > > Even though i'm a non-believer, I respect people that do. I 
> just 
> > > > feel that religion is playing 
> > > > > way to big a role in our countries politics. That role is 
> making 
> > > > an assumption that religion 
> > > > > is "fact" and that we are all religious.
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  
> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But it's in the Constitution.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > No it isn't.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single 
> time 
> > > > that 
> > > > > > > religion has an influence in the decisions made in our 
> country.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So I should be forced to denounce my religion before 
> entering a 
> > > > voting 
> > > > > > booth?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[asburyparkpedaler]

Totally with you, but give it up. They'll never get it

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is your point that because i'm in the minority when it comes to
> religion, my views are any less important? Is your point that I just
> have to accept the fact that religious influence on issue's in our
> country are correct? I think the religious influence is way out of
> control. I really don't think it has any place in the governing of 
our
> country. 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > And? What's your point?
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > You may not be religious, but your country is.
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You are partially right;
> > > > "The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress 
shall 
> > > make no law 
> > > > respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the 
free 
> > > exercise thereof". Both 
> > > > these clauses, known as the "establishment clause" and 
the "free 
> > > exercise clause" 
> > > > respectively, are significant. To give perspective, there was 
a 
> > > great conservation of 
> > > > language in the Bill of Rights; the intention was to avoid 
> > > creating loopholes, while still 
> > > > providing a buffer between the Legislature and the most basic 
> > > rights of the people. It is 
> > > > significant, then, that there are two clauses where one would 
> > > suffice, were the intention 
> > > > only to prevent respect for a religious establishment or only 
to 
> > > protect free exercise."
> > > > Even though i'm a non-believer, I respect people that do. I 
just 
> > > feel that religion is playing 
> > > > way to big a role in our countries politics. That role is 
making 
> > > an assumption that religion 
> > > > is "fact" and that we are all religious.
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > But it's in the Constitution.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No it isn't.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single 
time 
> > > that 
> > > > > > religion has an influence in the decisions made in our 
country.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I should be forced to denounce my religion before 
entering a 
> > > voting 
> > > > > booth?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

The point is you are living in a religious country.  You want to 
change that, and that's your right to try. However, you have no 
right to stop me from pointing out that your prior posts seemed to 
ignore history and law.

America is a very religious country.

You feel religion plays to big a role in our governing. I say its 
too small.

To each our own.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is your point that because i'm in the minority when it comes to
> religion, my views are any less important? Is your point that I 
just
> have to accept the fact that religious influence on issue's in our
> country are correct? I think the religious influence is way out of
> control. I really don't think it has any place in the governing of 
our
> country. 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > And? What's your point?
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > You may not be religious, but your country is.
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You are partially right;
> > > > "The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress 
shall 
> > > make no law 
> > > > respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the 
free 
> > > exercise thereof". Both 
> > > > these clauses, known as the "establishment clause" and 
the "free 
> > > exercise clause" 
> > > > respectively, are significant. To give perspective, there 
was a 
> > > great conservation of 
> > > > language in the Bill of Rights; the intention was to avoid 
> > > creating loopholes, while still 
> > > > providing a buffer between the Legislature and the most 
basic 
> > > rights of the people. It is 
> > > > significant, then, that there are two clauses where one 
would 
> > > suffice, were the intention 
> > > > only to prevent respect for a religious establishment or 
only to 
> > > protect free exercise."
> > > > Even though i'm a non-believer, I respect people that do. I 
just 
> > > feel that religion is playing 
> > > > way to big a role in our countries politics. That role is 
making 
> > > an assumption that religion 
> > > > is "fact" and that we are all religious.
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  
wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > But it's in the Constitution.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No it isn't.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single 
time 
> > > that 
> > > > > > religion has an influence in the decisions made in our 
country.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I should be forced to denounce my religion before 
entering a 
> > > voting 
> > > > > booth?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

Is your point that because i'm in the minority when it comes to
religion, my views are any less important? Is your point that I just
have to accept the fact that religious influence on issue's in our
country are correct? I think the religious influence is way out of
control. I really don't think it has any place in the governing of our
country. 

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And? What's your point?
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
>  wrote:
> >
> > You may not be religious, but your country is.
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > >
> > > You are partially right;
> > > "The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress shall 
> > make no law 
> > > respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free 
> > exercise thereof". Both 
> > > these clauses, known as the "establishment clause" and the "free 
> > exercise clause" 
> > > respectively, are significant. To give perspective, there was a 
> > great conservation of 
> > > language in the Bill of Rights; the intention was to avoid 
> > creating loopholes, while still 
> > > providing a buffer between the Legislature and the most basic 
> > rights of the people. It is 
> > > significant, then, that there are two clauses where one would 
> > suffice, were the intention 
> > > only to prevent respect for a religious establishment or only to 
> > protect free exercise."
> > > Even though i'm a non-believer, I respect people that do. I just 
> > feel that religion is playing 
> > > way to big a role in our countries politics. That role is making 
> > an assumption that religion 
> > > is "fact" and that we are all religious.
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > But it's in the Constitution.
> > > > 
> > > > No it isn't.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single time 
> > that 
> > > > > religion has an influence in the decisions made in our country.
> > > > 
> > > > So I should be forced to denounce my religion before entering a 
> > voting 
> > > > booth?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

And? What's your point?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You may not be religious, but your country is.
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > You are partially right;
> > "The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress shall 
> make no law 
> > respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free 
> exercise thereof". Both 
> > these clauses, known as the "establishment clause" and the "free 
> exercise clause" 
> > respectively, are significant. To give perspective, there was a 
> great conservation of 
> > language in the Bill of Rights; the intention was to avoid 
> creating loopholes, while still 
> > providing a buffer between the Legislature and the most basic 
> rights of the people. It is 
> > significant, then, that there are two clauses where one would 
> suffice, were the intention 
> > only to prevent respect for a religious establishment or only to 
> protect free exercise."
> > Even though i'm a non-believer, I respect people that do. I just 
> feel that religion is playing 
> > way to big a role in our countries politics. That role is making 
> an assumption that religion 
> > is "fact" and that we are all religious.
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > But it's in the Constitution.
> > > 
> > > No it isn't.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single time 
> that 
> > > > religion has an influence in the decisions made in our country.
> > > 
> > > So I should be forced to denounce my religion before entering a 
> voting 
> > > booth?
> > >
> >
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

You may not be religious, but your country is.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You are partially right;
> "The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress shall 
make no law 
> respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free 
exercise thereof". Both 
> these clauses, known as the "establishment clause" and the "free 
exercise clause" 
> respectively, are significant. To give perspective, there was a 
great conservation of 
> language in the Bill of Rights; the intention was to avoid 
creating loopholes, while still 
> providing a buffer between the Legislature and the most basic 
rights of the people. It is 
> significant, then, that there are two clauses where one would 
suffice, were the intention 
> only to prevent respect for a religious establishment or only to 
protect free exercise."
> Even though i'm a non-believer, I respect people that do. I just 
feel that religion is playing 
> way to big a role in our countries politics. That role is making 
an assumption that religion 
> is "fact" and that we are all religious.
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
 wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > 
> > > But it's in the Constitution.
> > 
> > No it isn't.
> > 
> > 
> > >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single time 
that 
> > > religion has an influence in the decisions made in our country.
> > 
> > So I should be forced to denounce my religion before entering a 
voting 
> > booth?
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I just feel that religion is playing 
> way to big a role in our countries politics.

That's what you get when you elect a born-again former substance abuser.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[asburyparkpedaler]

well said

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You are partially right;
> "The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress shall 
make no law 
> respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free 
exercise thereof". Both 
> these clauses, known as the "establishment clause" and the "free 
exercise clause" 
> respectively, are significant. To give perspective, there was a 
great conservation of 
> language in the Bill of Rights; the intention was to avoid creating 
loopholes, while still 
> providing a buffer between the Legislature and the most basic 
rights of the people. It is 
> significant, then, that there are two clauses where one would 
suffice, were the intention 
> only to prevent respect for a religious establishment or only to 
protect free exercise."
> Even though i'm a non-believer, I respect people that do. I just 
feel that religion is playing 
> way to big a role in our countries politics. That role is making an 
assumption that religion 
> is "fact" and that we are all religious.
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
 wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> > 
> > > But it's in the Constitution.
> > 
> > No it isn't.
> > 
> > 
> > >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single time 
that 
> > > religion has an influence in the decisions made in our country.
> > 
> > So I should be forced to denounce my religion before entering a 
voting 
> > booth?
> >
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

You are partially right;
"The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress shall make no law 
respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise 
thereof". Both 
these clauses, known as the "establishment clause" and the "free exercise 
clause" 
respectively, are significant. To give perspective, there was a great 
conservation of 
language in the Bill of Rights; the intention was to avoid creating loopholes, 
while still 
providing a buffer between the Legislature and the most basic rights of the 
people. It is 
significant, then, that there are two clauses where one would suffice, were the 
intention 
only to prevent respect for a religious establishment or only to protect free 
exercise."
Even though i'm a non-believer, I respect people that do. I just feel that 
religion is playing 
way to big a role in our countries politics. That role is making an assumption 
that religion 
is "fact" and that we are all religious.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> 
> > But it's in the Constitution.
> 
> No it isn't.
> 
> 
> >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single time that 
> > religion has an influence in the decisions made in our country.
> 
> So I should be forced to denounce my religion before entering a voting 
> booth?
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[asburyparkpedaler]

Only if you are a muslim

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> 
> > But it's in the Constitution.
> 
> No it isn't.
> 
> 
> >In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single time that 
> > religion has an influence in the decisions made in our country.
> 
> So I should be forced to denounce my religion before entering a 
voting 
> booth?
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But it's in the Constitution.

No it isn't.


>In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single time that 
> religion has an influence in the decisions made in our country.

So I should be forced to denounce my religion before entering a voting 
booth?





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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

Yes, I know that. But can't it also be interperated literally? Seems to me that 
the government 
is absolutely favoring certain religions. It also seems to me that religious 
interference with 
the workings of our country are a bad thing. I'm sure i'm gonna get some hate 
for this, but I 
don't have any religious beliefs at all. In fact, all i've seen in my 45 years 
of life so far are 
examples of how ridiculous the concept actually is.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
> >
> > But it's in the Constitution. Thomas Jefferson gave rise to the 
> concept. So why has it been 
> > ignored for so wrong. In my opinion, my rights are being violated 
> every single time that 
> > religion has an influence in the decisions made in our country.
> 
> It's the establishment clause, that the government will not favor or 
> establish any specific religion or sect.
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But it's in the Constitution. Thomas Jefferson gave rise to the 
concept. So why has it been 
> ignored for so wrong. In my opinion, my rights are being violated 
every single time that 
> religion has an influence in the decisions made in our country.

It's the establishment clause, that the government will not favor or 
establish any specific religion or sect.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

But it's in the Constitution. Thomas Jefferson gave rise to the concept. So why 
has it been 
ignored for so wrong. In my opinion, my rights are being violated every single 
time that 
religion has an influence in the decisions made in our country.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge"  wrote:
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> > Just out of curiosity, when did this country abandon the principle 
> >of "Seperation of Church 
> > and State" 
> 
> Thats never been the principle.
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
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> How am I responsible for what she says? You're not making any sense.
> 

are you responsible for what edwards said?





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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, when did this country abandon the principle 
>of "Seperation of Church 
> and State" 

Thats never been the principle.



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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

How am I responsible for what she says? You're not making any sense.


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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > IT's liberals in the media that refuse to interview Chris Smith in 
> > favor of her.
> 
> 
> Tom, what is at issue is that on your blog you have in BIG text that 
> John Edwards says Jesus hates America. But then Coulter, who is a 
> recognized (by conservatives and liberals) spokesperson for the 
> conservative masses, calls Edwards a faggot and you say nothing? 
Hmmm? 
> Think you have an axe to grind?
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> There is a shock.  All you do here is complain how everyone 
associated with the redevelopment has no experience.  
> 

Did I have a senior moment? Sorry, but I don't see what you are 
referring to.

Wait! That Obama has no experience? You're right. Sh**t, didn't think 
of that. He could wind up invading the wrong country, or even shoot a 
hunting pal in the face.





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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Allan Peterson]

There is a shock.  All you do here is complain how everyone associated with the 
redevelopment has no experience.  


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Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 1:26:58 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" 
 wrote:
>
> I pointed out that I no more own her comment than Democrat Dan owns 
> everything Democrat Hillary says, including her racist remarks.

Registered Independent. I am backing B. Hussein, oh, Coulter confused 
me, I mean Obama.





 

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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

Just out of curiosity, when did this country abandon the principle of 
"Seperation of Church 
and State" Seems to me that the 2 are more intertwined then ever, which I find 
offensive.
I read something today about some evangelical guy chiming in about Gulliani's 
marriage 
woes. 


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > IT's liberals in the media that refuse to interview Chris Smith in 
> > favor of her.
> 
> 
> Tom, what is at issue is that on your blog you have in BIG text that 
> John Edwards says Jesus hates America. But then Coulter, who is a 
> recognized (by conservatives and liberals) spokesperson for the 
> conservative masses, calls Edwards a faggot and you say nothing? Hmmm? 
> Think you have an axe to grind?
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> IT's liberals in the media that refuse to interview Chris Smith in 
> favor of her.


Tom, what is at issue is that on your blog you have in BIG text that 
John Edwards says Jesus hates America. But then Coulter, who is a 
recognized (by conservatives and liberals) spokesperson for the 
conservative masses, calls Edwards a faggot and you say nothing? Hmmm? 
Think you have an axe to grind?





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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

IT's liberals in the media that refuse to interview Chris Smith in 
favor of her.

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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
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> > 
> > >Now, Coultergeist is the annointed angel of the conservative 
> > > party. 
> > 
> > Why do you have to get me started?  No one on this board wants 
to 
> > read this.  However, here it goes.
> > 
> > You're doing the same thing to conservatives the media does to 
us.  
> > The media gets to pick who represents conservatives by labeling 
> > them.  They train the viewers to do the same.
> 
> Is it liberals or the media that invite her to speak at 
conservative 
> fundraisers?
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[dfsavgny]

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I pointed out that I no more own her comment than Democrat Dan owns 
> everything Democrat Hillary says, including her racist remarks.

Registered Independent. I am backing B. Hussein, oh, Coulter confused 
me, I mean Obama.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> >Now, Coultergeist is the annointed angel of the conservative 
> > party. 
> 
> Why do you have to get me started?  No one on this board wants to 
> read this.  However, here it goes.
> 
> You're doing the same thing to conservatives the media does to us.  
> The media gets to pick who represents conservatives by labeling 
> them.  They train the viewers to do the same.

Is it liberals or the media that invite her to speak at conservative 
fundraisers?





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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[asburyparkpedaler]

None taken, though certainly deserved. Even though I tried to justify 
it the other day; You were right. Up to that point, I thought that he 
was actually seeking respect as having a valid opinion...I quickly 
saw that this was just entertainment for him. I guess I'm a bit bored 
myself, but I'll stop.   

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dude, no offense, but why do you keep responding to him? Just stop. 
He gets off on the 
> attention.
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"  
wrote:
> >
> > what happened roley, detention let out early today?
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  wrote:
> > >
> > > WAG YOUR TAIL BACK TO ALLENHURST BIKE BOY!!!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" 
 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > sorry
> > > > 
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" 
> >  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sounds like rolemover
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Robert
> > > > > 
> > > > > Let sleeping dogs lie.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

Dude, no offense, but why do you keep responding to him? Just stop. He gets off 
on the 
attention.

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> what happened roley, detention let out early today?
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover"  wrote:
> >
> > WAG YOUR TAIL BACK TO ALLENHURST BIKE BOY!!!
> > 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > sorry
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" 
>  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > sounds like rolemover
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Robert
> > > > 
> > > > Let sleeping dogs lie.
> > > >
> > >
> >
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[asburyparkpedaler]

what happened roley, detention let out early today?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> WAG YOUR TAIL BACK TO ALLENHURST BIKE BOY!!!
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"  
> wrote:
> >
> > sorry
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" 
 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > sounds like rolemover
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Robert
> > > 
> > > Let sleeping dogs lie.
> > >
> >
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Jim]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mario,
> You have my full support!  I also receive how Rep. Pallone votes and
> on what issues.  His district is large and I receive notifications on
> where he is appearing within District 6.  Right now, all of the VSO's,
> Veteran Service Organizations, are in Washington DC, at their own
> expense, to meet with our Representatives and Senators.  It's an
> annual meeting, same time, every year, but it's ironic, that in light
> of the Shaft, our veterans have been receiving at Walter Reed and the
> other facilities, I wish I had made preparations to go this year. 
> Pres. Bush, spoke to the American Legion, yesterday.  He is a Member
> of Post 77, in San Antonio, Texas, where I saw him address the
> Veterans, back in 2001.  I also saw him in Charlotte, NC, 2002 and St.
> Louis, in 2003.  I hope to be in Reno in late summer, for the same.
> I hope that in light of the debacle at Walter Reed, better treatment
> for those who give their all, in defense of this great nation, for
> those who NEVER served, will not have to go through the nightmares,
> they have been experiencing.  Most people claim to support our troops,
> but sit on their hands, while they suffer, after they return home!  I
> really don't pay too much attention, as far as AP goes, when so many
> of our troops, get so little, for giving so much!  There is a disabled
> veteran, who regularly posts here and he is disrespected and put down
> by some of the posters, here!  It's a shame and disgraceful, so Mario,
> I am WITH you on staying in the loop, about what goes on in our
> nations capital and the scandals, finally being revealed, from the
> top, down!
> 
~

God Bless You *~Sharon~* you are a very dear person.People like yourself brings 
a special meaning to our Flag that brings us the Freedom to write our feelings 
on this board some Countries it would never happen alot wound be put in jail.We 
all have to answer to one person in the end.I have nothing to hide.However some 
here have to ask for some forgiving one day. 
 
James Grabe Just another Veteran in Asbury Park.   

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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > Hello  justifiedright@,
> > In reference to your  comment: 
> > 
> > 
> > He ignored his Asbury constituent.  
> > 
> > 
> > I get continual reports from C-Span's MegaVote such as this:
> >  
> > March 5, 2007
> > 
> > In this  MegaVote for New Jersey's 6th Congressional District:
> > 
> > Recent  Congressional Votes -
> > House: Employee Free  Choice Act
> > 
> > Upcoming  Congressional Bills -
> > Senate: 9/11  Commission Recommendations bill
> > House: Healthy  Communities Water Supply Act of 2007
> >  
> > 
> > Recent House  Votes_Employee  Free Choice Act_ 
> >
> (http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?votenum=118&chamber=H&congress=1101)
>  - Vote Passed (241-185, 8 
> > Not  Voting)
> > 
> > This bill is intended to make it easier for a plant to  unionize and
> would 
> > end the right of employers to request secret-ballot  elections. 
> > 
> > Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. voted YES..
> >  
> > 
> > _Small  Business Tax Relief Act_ 
> >
> (http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?votenum=102&chamber=H&congress=1101)
>  - Vote Passed (360-45, 28 Not  Voting)
> > 
> > The House approved this $1.3 billion package of small business tax 
> breaks 
> > intended to be combined with the minimum wage increase.
> > 
> > Rep. Frank Pallone  Jr. voted YES..
> >  
> > And lots more I approve of here:  
> > _http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm_
> (http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm) 
> >  
> > His voting record is super fine with me.  
> >  
> > Regarding the slight regarding my inquiry about the remarks you 
> allege he 
> > made, it's petty in the grand scheme of things.  Petty  Outrage is
> your game, 
> > not mine.
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > Original Message
> > Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/6/2007 7:25:12 P.M.
> Eastern 
> > Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > (mailto:justifiedright@)   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   
> > Sent on:
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> > MarioAPNJ@,  M

[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Jim]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mario,
> You have my full support!  I also receive how Rep. Pallone votes and
> on what issues.  His district is large and I receive notifications on
> where he is appearing within District 6.  Right now, all of the VSO's,
> Veteran Service Organizations, are in Washington DC, at their own
> expense, to meet with our Representatives and Senators.  It's an
> annual meeting, same time, every year, but it's ironic, that in light
> of the Shaft, our veterans have been receiving at Walter Reed and the
> other facilities, I wish I had made preparations to go this year. 
> Pres. Bush, spoke to the American Legion, yesterday.  He is a Member
> of Post 77, in San Antonio, Texas, where I saw him address the
> Veterans, back in 2001.  I also saw him in Charlotte, NC, 2002 and St.
> Louis, in 2003.  I hope to be in Reno in late summer, for the same.
> I hope that in light of the debacle at Walter Reed, better treatment
> for those who give their all, in defense of this great nation, for
> those who NEVER served, will not have to go through the nightmares,
> they have been experiencing.  Most people claim to support our troops,
> but sit on their hands, while they suffer, after they return home!  I
> really don't pay too much attention, as far as AP goes, when so many
> of our troops, get so little, for giving so much!  There is a disabled
> veteran, who regularly posts here and he is disrespected and put down
> by some of the posters, here!  It's a shame and disgraceful, so Mario,
> I am WITH you on staying in the loop, about what goes on in our
> nations capital and the scandals, finally being revealed, from the
> top, down!
> 
~

God Bless You *~Sharon~* you are a very dear person.People like yourself brings 
a special meaning to our Flag that brings us the Freedom to write our feelings 
on this board some Countries it would never happen alot wound be put in jail.We 
all have to answer to one person in the end.I have nothing to hide.However some 
here have to ask for some forgiving one day. 
 
James Grabe Just another Veteran in Asbury Park.   

~~~
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
> >
> >  
> > Hello  justifiedright@,
> > In reference to your  comment: 
> > 
> > 
> > He ignored his Asbury constituent.  
> > 
> > 
> > I get continual reports from C-Span's MegaVote such as this:
> >  
> > March 5, 2007
> > 
> > In this  MegaVote for New Jersey's 6th Congressional District:
> > 
> > Recent  Congressional Votes -
> > House: Employee Free  Choice Act
> > 
> > Upcoming  Congressional Bills -
> > Senate: 9/11  Commission Recommendations bill
> > House: Healthy  Communities Water Supply Act of 2007
> >  
> > 
> > Recent House  Votes_Employee  Free Choice Act_ 
> >
> (http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?votenum=118&chamber=H&congress=1101)
>  - Vote Passed (241-185, 8 
> > Not  Voting)
> > 
> > This bill is intended to make it easier for a plant to  unionize and
> would 
> > end the right of employers to request secret-ballot  elections. 
> > 
> > Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. voted YES..
> >  
> > 
> > _Small  Business Tax Relief Act_ 
> >
> (http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?votenum=102&chamber=H&congress=1101)
>  - Vote Passed (360-45, 28 Not  Voting)
> > 
> > The House approved this $1.3 billion package of small business tax 
> breaks 
> > intended to be combined with the minimum wage increase.
> > 
> > Rep. Frank Pallone  Jr. voted YES..
> >  
> > And lots more I approve of here:  
> > _http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm_
> (http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm) 
> >  
> > His voting record is super fine with me.  
> >  
> > Regarding the slight regarding my inquiry about the remarks you 
> allege he 
> > made, it's petty in the grand scheme of things.  Petty  Outrage is
> your game, 
> > not mine.
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > Original Message
> > Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/6/2007 7:25:12 P.M.
> Eastern 
> > Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > (mailto:justifiedright@)   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   
> > Sent on:
> > 
> >  
> >  
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> > MarioAPNJ@,  M

[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[2fine4u]

Mario,
You have my full support!  I also receive how Rep. Pallone votes and
on what issues.  His district is large and I receive notifications on
where he is appearing within District 6.  Right now, all of the VSO's,
Veteran Service Organizations, are in Washington DC, at their own
expense, to meet with our Representatives and Senators.  It's an
annual meeting, same time, every year, but it's ironic, that in light
of the Shaft, our veterans have been receiving at Walter Reed and the
other facilities, I wish I had made preparations to go this year. 
Pres. Bush, spoke to the American Legion, yesterday.  He is a Member
of Post 77, in San Antonio, Texas, where I saw him address the
Veterans, back in 2001.  I also saw him in Charlotte, NC, 2002 and St.
Louis, in 2003.  I hope to be in Reno in late summer, for the same.
I hope that in light of the debacle at Walter Reed, better treatment
for those who give their all, in defense of this great nation, for
those who NEVER served, will not have to go through the nightmares,
they have been experiencing.  Most people claim to support our troops,
but sit on their hands, while they suffer, after they return home!  I
really don't pay too much attention, as far as AP goes, when so many
of our troops, get so little, for giving so much!  There is a disabled
veteran, who regularly posts here and he is disrespected and put down
by some of the posters, here!  It's a shame and disgraceful, so Mario,
I am WITH you on staying in the loop, about what goes on in our
nations capital and the scandals, finally being revealed, from the
top, down!


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> Hello  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> In reference to your  comment: 
> 
> 
> He ignored his Asbury constituent.  
> 
> 
> I get continual reports from C-Span's MegaVote such as this:
>  
> March 5, 2007
> 
> In this  MegaVote for New Jersey's 6th Congressional District:
> 
> Recent  Congressional Votes -
> House: Employee Free  Choice Act
> 
> Upcoming  Congressional Bills -
> Senate: 9/11  Commission Recommendations bill
> House: Healthy  Communities Water Supply Act of 2007
>  
> 
> Recent House  Votes_Employee  Free Choice Act_ 
>
(http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?votenum=118&chamber=H&congress=1101)
 - Vote Passed (241-185, 8 
> Not  Voting)
> 
> This bill is intended to make it easier for a plant to  unionize and
would 
> end the right of employers to request secret-ballot  elections. 
> 
> Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. voted YES..
>  
> 
> _Small  Business Tax Relief Act_ 
>
(http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?votenum=102&chamber=H&congress=1101)
 - Vote Passed (360-45, 28 Not  Voting)
> 
> The House approved this $1.3 billion package of small business tax 
breaks 
> intended to be combined with the minimum wage increase.
> 
> Rep. Frank Pallone  Jr. voted YES..
>  
> And lots more I approve of here:  
> _http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm_
(http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm) 
>  
> His voting record is super fine with me.  
>  
> Regarding the slight regarding my inquiry about the remarks you 
allege he 
> made, it's petty in the grand scheme of things.  Petty  Outrage is
your game, 
> not mine.
>  
>  
> 
> Original Message
> Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/6/2007 7:25:12 P.M.
Eastern 
> Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   
> Sent on:
> 
>  
>  
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> MarioAPNJ@,  Mari
> 
> > In reference to justifiedright' In reference
> > must I bring up Hillary's remarks against Jews and East  Indians?
> 
> > 
> > Of course you must. It's the rove-rushian way of  changing the 
> >subject.
> 
> It's not changing the subject Mario. In  case you missed it, the 
> subject of Dan's post is not Coulter's comment - his  subject is 
> trying to make me own her comment because we both call ourselves  
> conservative.
> 
> I pointed out that I no more own her comment than  Democrat Dan owns 
> everything Democrat Hillary says, including her racist  remarks.
> 
> Clearly the same topic.
> 
> By the way Mario - how'd you make  out with your boy Frank Pallone 
> regarding that inquiry you made to him all  those months back? 
> Didn't answer you, huh.
> 
> He ignored his Asbury  constituent. Try changing your address and 
> see if answers.
> 
> 
>
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[apoojo]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well if I can't politly leave the conversation by saying take care, 
> then by all means, go screw yourself punk.
> 
> That better?
> 
neah, i dint think its better but it is certainly to the point, you 
tried to be nice some people just cant accept it
> > 
> > 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

Well if I can't politly leave the conversation by saying take care, 
then by all means, go screw yourself punk.

That better?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> Hello  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> In reference to your  comment: 
> 
> 
> I'm not putting the board through one of  these juvenile fights 
Mario.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I will "take care" when I see fit... 
>  
> I'll take care to respond here with documentation, voting  
records, search 
> results etc. that counter juvenile  innuendo, juvenile 
undocumented allegations, 
>  juvenile gotchas ( like "your boy Pallone"),  juvenile 
provocations, 
> juvenile point-scoring,  and the like.
>  
> And when it suits me, having writ,  I'll Move on, "nor all your  
Piety nor 
> Wit Shall lure" me back to cancel half a Line,
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

 
Hello  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your  comment: 


I'm not putting the board through one of  these juvenile fights Mario.

Take care.




I will "take care" when I see fit... 
 
I'll take care to respond here with documentation, voting  records, search 
results etc. that counter juvenile  innuendo, juvenile undocumented 
allegations, 
 juvenile gotchas ( like "your boy Pallone"),  juvenile provocations, 
juvenile point-scoring,  and the like.
 
And when it suits me, having writ,  I'll Move on, "nor all your  Piety nor 
Wit Shall lure" me back to cancel half a Line,



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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

 
Hello  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your  comment: 


He ignored his Asbury constituent.  


I get continual reports from C-Span's MegaVote such as this:
 
March 5, 2007

In this  MegaVote for New Jersey's 6th Congressional District:

Recent  Congressional Votes -
House: Employee Free  Choice Act

Upcoming  Congressional Bills -
Senate: 9/11  Commission Recommendations bill
House: Healthy  Communities Water Supply Act of 2007
 

Recent House  Votes_Employee  Free Choice Act_ 
(http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?votenum=118&chamber=H&congress=1101)  - 
Vote Passed (241-185, 8 
Not  Voting)

This bill is intended to make it easier for a plant to  unionize and would 
end the right of employers to request secret-ballot  elections. 

Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. voted YES..
 

_Small  Business Tax Relief Act_ 
(http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?votenum=102&chamber=H&congress=1101)  - 
Vote Passed (360-45, 28 Not  Voting)

The House approved this $1.3 billion package of small business tax  breaks 
intended to be combined with the minimum wage increase.

Rep. Frank Pallone  Jr. voted YES..
 
And lots more I approve of here:  
_http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm_ 
(http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm) 
 
His voting record is super fine with me.  
 
Regarding the slight regarding my inquiry about the remarks you  allege he 
made, it's petty in the grand scheme of things.  Petty  Outrage is your game, 
not mine.
 
 

Original Message====
Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/6/2007 7:25:12 P.M. Eastern 
Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   
Sent on:

 
 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  Mari

> In reference to justifiedright' In reference
> must I bring up Hillary's remarks against Jews and East  Indians?

> 
> Of course you must. It's the rove-rushian way of  changing the 
>subject.

It's not changing the subject Mario. In  case you missed it, the 
subject of Dan's post is not Coulter's comment - his  subject is 
trying to make me own her comment because we both call ourselves  
conservative.

I pointed out that I no more own her comment than  Democrat Dan owns 
everything Democrat Hillary says, including her racist  remarks.

Clearly the same topic.

By the way Mario - how'd you make  out with your boy Frank Pallone 
regarding that inquiry you made to him all  those months back? 
Didn't answer you, huh.

He ignored his Asbury  constituent. Try changing your address and 
see if answers.


   
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

I'm not putting the board through one of these juvenile fights Mario.

Take care.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
> Moves on: nor all your Piety  nor Wit
> Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
> 
> - Omar Khayyam
> 
> 
> Original  Message====     Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: 
Justified Right  
> Date: 3/6/2007 8:30:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time  From: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:
> 
>  
>  
> Oh I change the subject!?! HA!! He blew you off and you're still 
> going to  kiss his rear end and vote for him.
> 
> That's why Pallone will never give a  damn about Asbury. He'll 
spit 
> on you and you'd still vote for  him.
> 
> That sort of thing has Asbury Park missing out.
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> MarioAPNJ@,  Mari
> >
> > 
> > Hello  justifiedright@ Hel
> > In reference to your comment: 
> > 
> >  
> > He ignored his Asbury constituent. 
> > 
> > 
> > I get  continual reports from C-Span's MegaVote such as this:
> > 
> > March 5,  2007
> > 
> > In this MegaVote for New Jersey's 6th Congressional  District:
> > 
> > Recent Congressional Votes -
> > House: Employee  Free Choice Act
> > 
> > Upcoming Congressional Bills -
> > Senate:  9/11 Commission Recommendations bill
> > House: Healthy Communities Water  Supply Act of 2007
> > 
> >    __  __  ___
> > Recent House Votes  _Employee Free Choice Act_ 
> > (_http://capwiz.http://capwhttp://capwizh_ 
> (http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?) 
> votenum=118&cham&congcongress=1101)  - Vote 
> > Not Voting)
> > 
> > This bill is  intended to make it easier for a plant to unionize 
> and would 
> > end  the right of employers to request secret-ballot elections. 
> > 
> >  Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. voted YES..
> > 
> > 
> > _Small Business  Tax Relief Act_ 
> > (_http://capwiz.http://capwhttp://capwizh_ 
> (http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?) 
> votenum=102&cham&congcongress=1101)  - Vote 
Pass
> Voting)
> > 
> > The House approved  this $1.3 billion package of small business 
> tax breaks 
> > intended to  be combined with the minimum wage increase.
> > 
> > Rep. Frank Pallone  Jr. voted YES..
> > 
> > And lots more I approve of here: 
> >  __http://www.ontheisshttp://www.http://www.onthttp_ 
> (http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm_)   
> (_http://www.ontheisshttp://www.http://www.onthtt_ 
> (http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm) )  
> > 
> > His voting record is super fine with me. 
> > 
> >  Regarding the slight regarding my inquiry about the remarks you 
> allege he  
> > made, it's petty in the grand scheme of things. Petty Outrage 
is  
> your game, 
> > not mine.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  Original Message=  
> > Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified  Right Date: 3/6/2007 7:25:12 
> P.M. Eastern 
> > Standard Time From:  _justifiedright@ Stan
> > (mailto:justifiedri (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@_As_ 
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) _  
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) )  
> > Sent on: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In  _AsburyPark@ --- In  _Asbury
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) )  , 
> > MarioAPNJ@, Mari
> > 
> > > In reference to  justifiedright' In reference
> > > must I bring up Hillary's remarks  against Jews and East 
Indians?
> > 
> > > 
> > > Of course you  must. It's the rove-rushian way of changing the 
> > >subject.
> >  
> > It's not changing the subject Mario. In case you missed it, the  
> > subject of Dan's post is not Coulter's comment - his subject is  
> > trying to make me own her comment because we both call 
ourselves  
> > conservative.
> > 
> > I pointed out that I no more own her  comment than Democrat Dan 
> owns 
> > everything Democrat Hillary says,  including her racist remarks.
> > 
> > Clearly the same topic.
> >  
> > By the way Mario - how'd you make out with your boy Frank 
Pallone  
> > regarding that inquiry you made to him all those months back? 
> >  Didn't answer you, huh.
> > 
> > He ignored his Asbury constituent. Try  changing your a

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

 
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all your Piety  nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,

- Omar Khayyam


Original  Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  
Date: 3/6/2007 8:30:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time  From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:

 
 
Oh I change the subject!?! HA!! He blew you off and you're still 
going to  kiss his rear end and vote for him.

That's why Pallone will never give a  damn about Asbury. He'll spit 
on you and you'd still vote for  him.

That sort of thing has Asbury Park missing out.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  Mari
>
> 
> Hello  justifiedright@ Hel
> In reference to your comment: 
> 
>  
> He ignored his Asbury constituent. 
> 
> 
> I get  continual reports from C-Span's MegaVote such as this:
> 
> March 5,  2007
> 
> In this MegaVote for New Jersey's 6th Congressional  District:
> 
> Recent Congressional Votes -
> House: Employee  Free Choice Act
> 
> Upcoming Congressional Bills -
> Senate:  9/11 Commission Recommendations bill
> House: Healthy Communities Water  Supply Act of 2007
> 
>    __  __  ___
> Recent House Votes  _Employee Free Choice Act_ 
> (_http://capwiz.http://capwhttp://capwizh_ 
(http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?) 
votenum=118&cham&congcongress=1101)  - Vote 
> Not Voting)
> 
> This bill is  intended to make it easier for a plant to unionize 
and would 
> end  the right of employers to request secret-ballot elections. 
> 
>  Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. voted YES..
> 
> 
> _Small Business  Tax Relief Act_ 
> (_http://capwiz.http://capwhttp://capwizh_ 
(http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?) 
votenum=102&cham&congcongress=1101)  - Vote Pass
Voting)
> 
> The House approved  this $1.3 billion package of small business 
tax breaks 
> intended to  be combined with the minimum wage increase.
> 
> Rep. Frank Pallone  Jr. voted YES..
> 
> And lots more I approve of here: 
>  __http://www.ontheisshttp://www.http://www.onthttp_ 
(http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm_)   
(_http://www.ontheisshttp://www.http://www.onthtt_ 
(http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm) )  
> 
> His voting record is super fine with me. 
> 
>  Regarding the slight regarding my inquiry about the remarks you 
allege he  
> made, it's petty in the grand scheme of things. Petty Outrage is  
your game, 
> not mine.
> 
> 
> 
>  Original Message=  
> Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified  Right Date: 3/6/2007 7:25:12 
P.M. Eastern 
> Standard Time From:  _justifiedright@ Stan
> (mailto:justifiedri (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@_As_ 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) _  
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) )  
> Sent on: 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In  _AsburyPark@ --- In  _Asbury
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) )  , 
> MarioAPNJ@, Mari
> 
> > In reference to  justifiedright' In reference
> > must I bring up Hillary's remarks  against Jews and East Indians?
> 
> > 
> > Of course you  must. It's the rove-rushian way of changing the 
> >subject.
>  
> It's not changing the subject Mario. In case you missed it, the  
> subject of Dan's post is not Coulter's comment - his subject is  
> trying to make me own her comment because we both call ourselves  
> conservative.
> 
> I pointed out that I no more own her  comment than Democrat Dan 
owns 
> everything Democrat Hillary says,  including her racist remarks.
> 
> Clearly the same topic.
>  
> By the way Mario - how'd you make out with your boy Frank Pallone  
> regarding that inquiry you made to him all those months back? 
>  Didn't answer you, huh.
> 
> He ignored his Asbury constituent. Try  changing your address and 
> see if answers.
> 
> 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

hat  insists that ... 
March 6, 2007 - (NYT) - Opinion - Editorial 
2.  _Citizens and Kings in a Time of Turbulence_ 
(http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/arts/design/06roya.html) 
... owner of a liberal newspaper, The Journal des  ... 
March 6, 2007 - By ALAN  RIDING (NYT) - Arts - News 


 
_http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030224/alterman2_ 
(http://www.thenation.com/doc/20030224/alterman2) 
 
_http://www.whatliberalmedia.com/_ (http://www.whatliberalmedia.com/) 
 
Original Message Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  
Date: 3/6/2007 7:03:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time  From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:

 
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
"dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But I am not the  political pundit with a particular political 
>twist 
> who wrote a  column about John Edwards. Now you are off the hook. 
>You 
>  typically promote the conservative viewpoint, here, on your blog 
and  
> in TCN. 

Yes, but what does me having written about Edwards have  to do with 
antyhing? Thousands of journalists have written about him. I'm  not 
following you - anyone who has ever written about him has to weigh  
in on the Coulter thing? I don't get it.

>Now, Coultergeist is the  annointed angel of the conservative 
> party. 

Why do you have to  get me started? No one on this board wants to 
read this. However, here it  goes.

You're doing the same thing to conservatives the media does to us.  
The media gets to pick who represents conservatives by labeling 
them.  They train the viewers to do the same.

Try this. You don't have to share  the results. Very quickly, write 
down the name of 5 current day examples of  conservatives. Also 
quickly, write down 5 current liberals.

Most  people for conservatives write down people who don't hold 
office. Usual you  will get answers like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, 
Falwell, Dobson,  Robertson, etc.

For liberals though, most people jot down elected people  - Kennedy, 
Kucinich, Dean, Clinton, Carter, etc.

There is a huge  difference.

Political pundits have no responsibility for policy, so they  can say 
things that don't translate to governing. The media goes to  
Robertson, Dobson, Coulter, etc. not in search of conservative 
views,  but for a sound bite because they may say something nutty.

Why don't they  go to conservative office holders, like my own 
congressman Chris  Smith?

Still not conviced? Try this on. Watch TV and see anyone with a  
conservative point of view be introduced as "consrevative columnist" 
or  "conservative host' etc. Have you ever seen Jesse Jackson, Frank 
Rich or  Paul Krugman with the word "liberal" written before their 
name?  Never.

The effect that the media is going for is to present the way left  
views as middle of the road (because those guys go unlabeled) but 
make  sure those on the right are clearly labeled.

Suckers fall for it. I  don't.

Fox News. We report - you decide.


   



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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

Oh I change the subject!?!  HA!!  He blew you off and you're still 
going to kiss his rear end and vote for him.

That's why Pallone will never give a damn about Asbury.  He'll spit 
on you and you'd still vote for him.

That sort of thing has Asbury Park missing out.



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>  
> Hello  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> In reference to your  comment: 
> 
> 
> He ignored his Asbury constituent.  
> 
> 
> I get continual reports from C-Span's MegaVote such as this:
>  
> March 5, 2007
> 
> In this  MegaVote for New Jersey's 6th Congressional District:
> 
> Recent  Congressional Votes -
> House: Employee Free  Choice Act
> 
> Upcoming  Congressional Bills -
> Senate: 9/11  Commission Recommendations bill
> House: Healthy  Communities Water Supply Act of 2007
>  
> 
> Recent House  Votes_Employee  Free Choice Act_ 
> (http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?
votenum=118&chamber=H&congress=1101)  - Vote Passed (241-185, 8 
> Not  Voting)
> 
> This bill is intended to make it easier for a plant to  unionize 
and would 
> end the right of employers to request secret-ballot  elections. 
> 
> Rep. Frank Pallone Jr. voted YES..
>  
> 
> _Small  Business Tax Relief Act_ 
> (http://capwiz.com/c-span/issues/votes/?
votenum=102&chamber=H&congress=1101)  - Vote Passed (360-45, 28 Not  
Voting)
> 
> The House approved this $1.3 billion package of small business 
tax  breaks 
> intended to be combined with the minimum wage increase.
> 
> Rep. Frank Pallone  Jr. voted YES..
>  
> And lots more I approve of here:  
> _http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm_ 
(http://www.ontheissues.org/NJ/Frank_Pallone.htm) 
>  
> His voting record is super fine with me.  
>  
> Regarding the slight regarding my inquiry about the remarks you  
allege he 
> made, it's petty in the grand scheme of things.  Petty  Outrage is 
your game, 
> not mine.
>  
>  
> 
> Original Message
> Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/6/2007 7:25:12 
P.M. Eastern 
> Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   
> Sent on:
> 
>  
>  
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
> MarioAPNJ@,  Mari
> 
> > In reference to justifiedright' In reference
> > must I bring up Hillary's remarks against Jews and East  Indians?
> 
> > 
> > Of course you must. It's the rove-rushian way of  changing the 
> >subject.
> 
> It's not changing the subject Mario. In  case you missed it, the 
> subject of Dan's post is not Coulter's comment - his  subject is 
> trying to make me own her comment because we both call ourselves  
> conservative.
> 
> I pointed out that I no more own her comment than  Democrat Dan 
owns 
> everything Democrat Hillary says, including her racist  remarks.
> 
> Clearly the same topic.
> 
> By the way Mario - how'd you make  out with your boy Frank Pallone 
> regarding that inquiry you made to him all  those months back? 
> Didn't answer you, huh.
> 
> He ignored his Asbury  constituent. Try changing your address and 
> see if answers.
> 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

 
Hello  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your  comment: 


the subject of Dan's post is not  Coulter's comment - his subject is trying 
to make me own her comment because  we both call ourselves conservative. I 
pointed out that I no more own her  comment than Democrat Dan owns everything 
Democrat Hillary says, including her  racist remarks.




And yet you would have Councilman Keady "own" the "assassination fantasies"  
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Original Message
Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/6/2007 7:25:12 P.M. Eastern 
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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED],  Mari

> In reference to justifiedright' In reference
> must I bring up Hillary's remarks against Jews and East  Indians?

> 
> Of course you must. It's the rove-rushian way of  changing the 
>subject.

It's not changing the subject Mario. In  case you missed it, the 
subject of Dan's post is not Coulter's comment - his  subject is 
trying to make me own her comment because we both call ourselves  
conservative.

I pointed out that I no more own her comment than  Democrat Dan owns 
everything Democrat Hillary says, including her racist  remarks.

Clearly the same topic.

By the way Mario - how'd you make  out with your boy Frank Pallone 
regarding that inquiry you made to him all  those months back? 
Didn't answer you, huh.

He ignored his Asbury  constituent. Try changing your address and 
see if answers.


   
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[rolemover]

WAG YOUR TAIL BACK TO ALLENHURST BIKE BOY!!!


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> sorry
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > sounds like rolemover
> > 
> > 
> > Robert
> > 
> > Let sleeping dogs lie.
> >
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
> In reference to  justifiedright's comment: 
> must I bring up Hillary's remarks  against Jews and East Indians?
 
>  
> Of course you must.  It's the rove-rushian way of changing the  
>subject.

It's not changing the subject Mario.  In case you missed it, the 
subject of Dan's post is not Coulter's comment - his subject is 
trying to make me own her comment because we both call ourselves 
conservative.

I pointed out that I no more own her comment than Democrat Dan owns 
everything Democrat Hillary says, including her racist remarks.

Clearly the same topic.

By the way Mario - how'd you make out with your boy Frank Pallone 
regarding that inquiry you made to him all those months back?  
Didn't answer you, huh.

He ignored his Asbury constituent.  Try changing your address and 
see if answers.



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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> But I am not the political pundit with a particular political 
>twist 
> who wrote a column about John Edwards. Now you are off the hook. 
>You 
> typically promote the conservative viewpoint, here, on your blog 
and 
> in TCN. 

Yes, but what does me having written about Edwards have to do with 
antyhing?  Thousands of journalists have written about him.  I'm not 
following  you - anyone who has ever written about him has to weigh 
in on the Coulter thing?  I don't get it.


>Now, Coultergeist is the annointed angel of the conservative 
> party. 

Why do you have to get me started?  No one on this board wants to 
read this.  However, here it goes.

You're doing the same thing to conservatives the media does to us.  
The media gets to pick who represents conservatives by labeling 
them.  They train the viewers to do the same.

Try this.  You don't have to share the results.  Very quickly, write 
down the name of 5 current day examples of conservatives.   Also 
quickly, write down 5 current liberals.

Most people for conservatives write down people who don't hold 
office.  Usual you will get answers like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, 
Falwell, Dobson, Robertson, etc.

For liberals though, most people jot down elected people - Kennedy, 
Kucinich, Dean, Clinton, Carter, etc.

There is a huge difference.

Political pundits have no responsibility for policy, so they can say 
things that don't translate to governing.  The media goes to 
Robertson, Dobson, Coulter, etc. not in search of conservative 
views, but for a sound bite because they may say something nutty.

Why don't they go to conservative office holders, like my own 
congressman Chris Smith?

Still not conviced?  Try this on.  Watch TV and see anyone with a 
conservative point of view be introduced as "consrevative columnist" 
or "conservative host' etc.  Have you ever seen Jesse Jackson, Frank 
Rich or Paul Krugman with the word "liberal" written before their 
name?  Never.

The effect that the media is going for is to present the way left 
views as middle of the road (because those guys go unlabeled) but 
make sure those on the right are clearly labeled.

Suckers fall for it.  I don't.

Fox News. We report - you decide.



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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[asburyparkpedaler]

yeah, that was unfair of me to do that to you, I can't even hang around 
to accept the abuse

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dans right. Everytime you evoke his name...even think his name, you 
are just giving him a 
> reason to speak up.
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > sounds like rolemover
> > 
> > 
> > Robert
> > 
> > Let sleeping dogs lie.
> >
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[asburyparkpedaler]

sorry

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>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"  
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> > sounds like rolemover
> 
> 
> Robert
> 
> Let sleeping dogs lie.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

Dans right. Everytime you evoke his name...even think his name, you are just 
giving him a 
reason to speak up.

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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburyparkpedaler"  
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> > sounds like rolemover
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> Robert
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> Let sleeping dogs lie.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

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> sounds like rolemover


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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[asburyparkpedaler]

sounds like rolemover

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The world really needs to stop giving Coulter airtime. She's an 
ass. A huge ass. People 
> need to wake up and stop buying her revolting books. Everything she 
does is just 
> shameless self promotion. She's a media attention whore.
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Not kidding brother!  I'll give the Democrat crowd the same 
pass on 
> > > nervous laughter when Hillary called Gandhi a gas station 
owner, an 
> > > obvious swipe at the numner of East Indians operating gas 
stations.
> > > 
> > > Check it out:
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Mq8kOXV_E
> > >
> > 
> > But I am not the political pundit with a particular political 
twist 
> > who wrote a column about John Edwards. Now you are off the hook. 
You 
> > typically promote the conservative viewpoint, here, on your blog 
and 
> > in TCN. Now, Coultergeist is the annointed angel of the 
conservative 
> > party. This is just the latest homophobic remark she has made. 
You 
> > hail from a place with a large gay community. Is an article by 
you on 
> > the subject not called for? Nothing on your blog about it?
> > 
> > Two wrongs don't make a right. Nervous laughter my ass.
> >
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

wow!!!

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> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote:
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> > 
> > Yup!   A Cunning Stunt
> 
> 
> But what a laryngeal prominence!
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[dfsavgny]

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> 
> Yup!   A Cunning Stunt


But what a laryngeal prominence!





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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

 
Hello  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your  comment: 


Everything she does is just shameless  self promotion.

 

Yup!   A Cunning Stunt

Original Message
Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/6/2007 4:16:39 P.M. Eastern 
Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:

 
 
The world really needs to stop giving Coulter airtime. She's an ass. A huge  
ass. People 
need to wake up and stop buying her revolting books. Everything  she does is 
just 
shameless self promotion. She's a media attention  whore.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
"dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
"justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
>  >
> > Not kidding brother! I'll give the Democrat crowd the same  pass on 
> > nervous laughter when Hillary called Gandhi a gas station  owner, an 
> > obvious swipe at the numner of East Indians operating  gas stations.
> > 
> > Check it out:
> > 
>  > _http://www.youtube.http://wwwhttp://www.yh_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Mq8kOXV_E) 
>  >
> 
> But I am not the political pundit with a particular  political twist 
> who wrote a column about John Edwards. Now you are off  the hook. You 
> typically promote the conservative viewpoint, here, on  your blog and 
> in TCN. Now, Coultergeist is the annointed angel of the  conservative 
> party. This is just the latest homophobic remark she has  made. You 
> hail from a place with a large gay community. Is an article  by you on 
> the subject not called for? Nothing on your blog about  it?
> 
> Two wrongs don't make a right. Nervous laughter my  ass.
>


   
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[MarioAPNJ]

 
In reference to  justifiedright's comment: 


must I bring up Hillary's remarks  against Jews and East Indians?

 

Of course you must.  It's the rove-rushian way of changing the  subject.
 
But at least provide full documentation: _Hillary  Rodham Clinton 
controversies: Information from Answers.com_ 
(http://www.answers.com/topic/hillary-rodham-clinton-controversies)  
 
 

Original Message====
Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right  Date: 3/6/2007 3:30:20 P.M. Eastern 
Standard Time  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   
Sent on:

 
 
I think you heard some very nervous laughter and applause. That's 
usual  in a tense situation like that.

As for her other remarks and continuing  to be invited back, must I 
bring up Hillary's remarks against Jews and East  Indians? Robert 
Byrd was a recruiter for the KKK and now the Dems call him  
the "conscious of the Senate."

Now note the difference: Ann Coulter  is just a writer. Hillary and 
Byrd are elected officials.

We may  tolerate the occasional bigot - Democrats elect them.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
"dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) ,  
"justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
>  >
> > She's nuts isn't she? 
> > 
> > No one is  more upset with her than the conservatives that run 
the 
> CPAC  
> > event. 
> 
> Sounded like a lot of applause and  laughter in the audience. 
Here's a 
> link to video. 
> 
>  
_http://www.rawstoryhttp://wwwhttp://www.rahttp://www.rawsthttp://wwwh_ 
(http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Coulter_tells_conservatives_I_was_g) 
o
>  ing_0302.html
> 
> She called Al Gore a "total fag" on Hardball last  year. And in the 
> past has said Clinton is a "latent homosexual" and  that 
> homosexulaity is narcissistic.
> 
> _http://www.crooksanhttp://www.http://www.http://www.crohttp://www._ 
(http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/28/coulter-on-clinton-) 
and-
>  gore-gay-and-  g
> 
> No matter what offensive remarks she has  continually made over the 
> years, conservative groups keep inviting here  to speak. Someimes 
> actions speak louder than words.
> 
>  I'll ask again, when is your article coming blasting her for that 
>  remark?
>


   
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Hinge]

The world really needs to stop giving Coulter airtime. She's an ass. A huge 
ass. People 
need to wake up and stop buying her revolting books. Everything she does is 
just 
shameless self promotion. She's a media attention whore.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Not kidding brother!  I'll give the Democrat crowd the same pass on 
> > nervous laughter when Hillary called Gandhi a gas station owner, an 
> > obvious swipe at the numner of East Indians operating gas stations.
> > 
> > Check it out:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Mq8kOXV_E
> >
> 
> But I am not the political pundit with a particular political twist 
> who wrote a column about John Edwards. Now you are off the hook. You 
> typically promote the conservative viewpoint, here, on your blog and 
> in TCN. Now, Coultergeist is the annointed angel of the conservative 
> party. This is just the latest homophobic remark she has made. You 
> hail from a place with a large gay community. Is an article by you on 
> the subject not called for? Nothing on your blog about it?
> 
> Two wrongs don't make a right. Nervous laughter my ass.
>




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Not kidding brother!  I'll give the Democrat crowd the same pass on 
> nervous laughter when Hillary called Gandhi a gas station owner, an 
> obvious swipe at the numner of East Indians operating gas stations.
> 
> Check it out:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Mq8kOXV_E
>

But I am not the political pundit with a particular political twist 
who wrote a column about John Edwards. Now you are off the hook. You 
typically promote the conservative viewpoint, here, on your blog and 
in TCN. Now, Coultergeist is the annointed angel of the conservative 
party. This is just the latest homophobic remark she has made. You 
hail from a place with a large gay community. Is an article by you on 
the subject not called for? Nothing on your blog about it?

Two wrongs don't make a right. Nervous laughter my ass.




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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

Not kidding brother!  I'll give the Democrat crowd the same pass on 
nervous laughter when Hillary called Gandhi a gas station owner, an 
obvious swipe at the numner of East Indians operating gas stations.

Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1Mq8kOXV_E



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > I think you heard some very nervous laughter and applause.  
That's 
> > usual in a tense situation like that.
> 
> Because I like you, I will let you off the hook. But you have to 
be 
> kidding?
>




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[Allan Peterson]

well said  


- Original Message 
From: justifiedright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2007 3:28:16 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

I think you heard some very nervous laughter and applause. That's 
usual in a tense situation like that.

As for her other remarks and continuing to be invited back, must I 
bring up Hillary's remarks against Jews and East Indians? Robert 
Byrd was a recruiter for the KKK and now the Dems call him 
the "conscious of the Senate."

Now note the difference: Ann Coulter is just a writer. Hillary and 
Byrd are elected officials.

We may tolerate the occasional bigot - Democrats elect them.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > She's nuts isn't she? 
> > 
> > No one is more upset with her than the conservatives that run 
the 
> CPAC 
> > event. 
> 
> Sounded like a lot of applause and laughter in the audience. 
Here's a 
> link to video. 
> 
> 
http://www.rawstory .com/news/ 2007/Coulter_ tells_conservati ves_I_was_ g
o
> ing_0302.html
> 
> She called Al Gore a "total fag" on Hardball last year. And in the 
> past has said Clinton is a "latent homosexual" and that 
> homosexulaity is narcissistic.
> 
> http://www.crooksan dliars.com/ posts/2006/ 07/28/coulter- on-clinton-
and-
> gore-gay-and- fag/
> 
> No matter what offensive remarks she has continually made over the 
> years, conservative groups keep inviting here to speak. Someimes 
> actions speak louder than words.
> 
> I'll ask again, when is your article coming blasting her for that 
> remark?
>





 

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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think you heard some very nervous laughter and applause.  That's 
> usual in a tense situation like that.

Because I like you, I will let you off the hook. But you have to be 
kidding?





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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

I think you heard some very nervous laughter and applause.  That's 
usual in a tense situation like that.

As for her other remarks and continuing to be invited back, must I 
bring up Hillary's remarks against Jews and East Indians?  Robert 
Byrd was a recruiter for the KKK and now the Dems call him 
the "conscious of the Senate."

Now note the difference:  Ann Coulter is just a writer. Hillary and 
Byrd are elected officials.

We may tolerate the occasional bigot - Democrats elect them.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > She's nuts isn't she?  
> > 
> > No one is more upset with her than the conservatives that run 
the 
> CPAC 
> > event. 
> 
> Sounded like a lot of applause and laughter in the audience. 
Here's a 
> link to video. 
> 
> 
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Coulter_tells_conservatives_I_was_g
o
> ing_0302.html
> 
> She called Al Gore a "total fag" on Hardball last year. And in the 
> past has said Clinton is a "latent homosexual"  and that 
> homosexulaity is narcissistic.
> 
> http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/28/coulter-on-clinton-
and-
> gore-gay-and-fag/
> 
> No matter what offensive remarks she has continually made over the 
> years, conservative groups keep inviting here to speak. Someimes 
> actions speak louder than words.
> 
> I'll ask again, when is your article coming blasting her for that 
> remark?
>




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[dfsavgny]

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> She's nuts isn't she?  
> 
> No one is more upset with her than the conservatives that run the 
CPAC 
> event. 

Sounded like a lot of applause and laughter in the audience. Here's a 
link to video. 

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Coulter_tells_conservatives_I_was_go
ing_0302.html

She called Al Gore a "total fag" on Hardball last year. And in the 
past has said Clinton is a "latent homosexual"  and that 
homosexulaity is narcissistic.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/07/28/coulter-on-clinton-and-
gore-gay-and-fag/

No matter what offensive remarks she has continually made over the 
years, conservative groups keep inviting here to speak. Someimes 
actions speak louder than words.

I'll ask again, when is your article coming blasting her for that 
remark?






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[AsburyPark] Re: Justified Right

[justifiedright]

She's nuts isn't she?  

No one is more upset with her than the conservatives that run the CPAC 
event. 

Here we are trying to make America know us, like us and trust us as a 
big tent, and she comes along and reinforces an old stereotype about 
us.  

There were wonderful things said at that weekend that should be out 
there on the news, but Coulter dropped a nuclear bomb and took it all 
away from us.  Very dumb.  More hurtful to us than to Edwards and gays 
combined.  We trusted her.

For how we feel about it, see my friend Michelle Malkin's site at this 
link:  http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006987.htm

While there, click on the link that says "What conservative bloggers 
think" and read that post.

I don't think Coulter will be back.  She jumped the shark.  

CPAC is a family event. It is designed to let the world know us - and 
that isn't us. No way we're going to have that nonsense there.


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> Tommy, I saw your blog on John (Breck Girl) Edwards. When is your 
> article coming distancing yourself and the Conservative Party from 
Ann 
> Coulter for calling him a faggot last Friday?
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