[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
"Tough & Stringy" - well I guess you answered your own question." Horsing around KB --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "theshortsalepro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My wife, daughter, and I dined there (OMR's)last nite after visiting > the Arcade and Under The Sun. We had a window seat overlooking the > sidewalk. There was very little foot traffic. Hopefully, in the not too > distant future, the streets will be alive with passers-by. > > The service was excellent. The food was plated beautifully including > my 'pub' steak, potato, and beans. The steak was tasty, but tough and > stringy no matter how thinly it was sliced. My daughter raved about > the salmon, my wife enjoyed the tuna. > > I was expecting to see the mounted police. Where are the horses > boarded when off-duty? > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
Believe me, i've done the same kind of thing. Still and all, people are scared of the city. It's hard to get rid of a 30 year old bad reputation when it comes to crime. You can build nice restaraunts, stores, and condos...but people won't come unless they feel safe, and that's the bottom line. I'm talking about changing peoples minds, and attracting new people. Yesterdays APP story about the shooting on Church street just set us back big time, and it's not the APP's fault for running it. um... can you say SURVEILLENCE SYSTEM? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 10/12/2007 11:13:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Since I went to OMR the other day, and raved about > it to my out of town friends, all I heard was; > "I'm scared to go to AP" > "Weren't you afraid of parking your car there" > and > "I will not go into that city after dark" > > I've encountered the same thing. But this worked for me. On a special > occasion like your birthday (or invent one, if necessary: Clown degree, > ordination, etc), invite and accompany them to your choice in AP. > > Folks I pulled that on now return on their own, even without my chaperoning t > hem. > > Feste > > > > > ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
In a message dated 10/12/2007 11:13:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since I went to OMR the other day, and raved about it to my out of town friends, all I heard was; "I'm scared to go to AP" "Weren't you afraid of parking your car there" and "I will not go into that city after dark" I've encountered the same thing. But this worked for me. On a special occasion like your birthday (or invent one, if necessary: Clown degree, ordination, etc), invite and accompany them to your choice in AP. Folks I pulled that on now return on their own, even without my chaperoning t hem. Feste ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
"The stigma of Asbury Park being dangerous continues." You mean like yesterdays shootings? And you are so right about the stigma. Since I went to OMR the other day, and raved about it to my out of town friends, all I heard was; "I'm scared to go to AP" "Weren't you afraid of parking your car there" and "I will not go into that city after dark" --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "theshortsalepro" wrote: > > > > My wife, daughter, and I dined there (OMR's)last nite after visiting > > the Arcade and Under The Sun. We had a window seat overlooking the > > sidewalk. There was very little foot traffic. Hopefully, in the not too > > distant future, the streets will be alive with passers-by. > > > > The service was excellent. The food was plated beautifully including > > my 'pub' steak, potato, and beans. The steak was tasty, but tough and > > stringy no matter how thinly it was sliced. My daughter raved about > > the salmon, my wife enjoyed the tuna. > > > > I was expecting to see the mounted police. Where are the horses > > boarded when off-duty? > > > === > > An "Alive Street" is not likely in the near future. > > The Condo/residential market has gone flat. > There's insufficient office uses w/owners living above. > The retail being offered is not what the average persons would buy. > The stigma of Asbury Park being dangerous continues. > > I'll be going OMR soon also to try it out, hope its reasonably priced. > > Werner > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "theshortsalepro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My wife, daughter, and I dined there (OMR's)last nite after visiting > the Arcade and Under The Sun. We had a window seat overlooking the > sidewalk. There was very little foot traffic. Hopefully, in the not too > distant future, the streets will be alive with passers-by. > > The service was excellent. The food was plated beautifully including > my 'pub' steak, potato, and beans. The steak was tasty, but tough and > stringy no matter how thinly it was sliced. My daughter raved about > the salmon, my wife enjoyed the tuna. > > I was expecting to see the mounted police. Where are the horses > boarded when off-duty? > === An "Alive Street" is not likely in the near future. The Condo/residential market has gone flat. There's insufficient office uses w/owners living above. The retail being offered is not what the average persons would buy. The stigma of Asbury Park being dangerous continues. I'll be going OMR soon also to try it out, hope its reasonably priced. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
My wife, daughter, and I dined there (OMR's)last nite after visiting the Arcade and Under The Sun. We had a window seat overlooking the sidewalk. There was very little foot traffic. Hopefully, in the not too distant future, the streets will be alive with passers-by. The service was excellent. The food was plated beautifully including my 'pub' steak, potato, and beans. The steak was tasty, but tough and stringy no matter how thinly it was sliced. My daughter raved about the salmon, my wife enjoyed the tuna. I was expecting to see the mounted police. Where are the horses boarded when off-duty? Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
My dog is called Kicking Bird. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My dog is named Lakota! > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
My dog is named Lakota! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson > wrote: > > > > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, > shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a > lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied > created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with > retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst > thing to happen. > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Hinge > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > > > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. > > I loved it. > > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. > Not overly friendly, friendly > > with dignity. > > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. > > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. > > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 > people. > > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to > perfection. > > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. > > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. > > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved > it. Interestingly, they all > > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said > nothing. > > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three > agreed that while Red Bank > > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the > restaraunts too expensive, and the > > lack of parking annoying. > > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, > and we all agreed that it's the > > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. > > What was there before drew many more people, Kid's World and The Pier > were a bigger magnet than Pier Village. You also didn't see the code > enforcement officer's ex felon defunct Police Officer working as a > manager where a liquor lisence was in the old days. I also hear this > official's wife is also working there as well. > > Pier Village was built while it's owner Joe Barry, was in Federal Pen > for bribing an elected official. Now out making millions. > > Pier Village is an embarrassment to Long Branchers. Unfortunately, > like wounded knee it may take close to a century to find out just how > unconstitutional it all really was. > > To The Lakota Nation To pOletown and to those in Long Branch who > suffered. ci' ami > > Rafferty's should be a great success. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
collecting what? They have abatements and our taxes just went up more than 150%. It is an economic failure. KB --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. > > > - Original Message > From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM > Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > Hinge, > > > You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: > > > I guess it's a matter of taste. > I hate it with a passion. > I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. > And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. > In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a > destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming > ugly building to look at. > And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier > Village. > In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. > I will never view a shopping center as a destination. > But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. > I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson wrote: > > > > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not > perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there > before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on > the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Hinge > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > > > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. > > I loved it. > > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, > friendly > > with dignity. > > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. > > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. > > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. > > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. > > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. > > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. > > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they > all > > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. > > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red > Bank > > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, > and the > > lack of parking annoying. > > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that > it's the > > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > __ __ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. > > > - Original Message > From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. > I loved it. > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly > with dignity. > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the > lack of parking annoying. > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. What was there before drew many more people, Kid's World and The Pier were a bigger magnet than Pier Village. You also didn't see the code enforcement officer's ex felon defunct Police Officer working as a manager where a liquor lisence was in the old days. I also hear this official's wife is also working there as well. Pier Village was built while it's owner Joe Barry, was in Federal Pen for bribing an elected official. Now out making millions. Pier Village is an embarrassment to Long Branchers. Unfortunately, like wounded knee it may take close to a century to find out just how unconstitutional it all really was. To The Lakota Nation To pOletown and to those in Long Branch who suffered. ci' ami Rafferty's should be a great success. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
In a message dated 10/11/2007 3:02:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder if the majority of arts related people all feel the same way about Pier Village. My friends hate it as well. Of course, I also remember the old Long Branch boardwalk and stuff. I know that plays a role in how I feel about Pier Village, but mainly it's the fact that I think it's horribly ugly. Anyone else out there agree with me that Max's hot dogs just don't taste as good as they did when Max's joint was on the LB boards? Maybe it was the saltwater spray and mist coming in from their old porch/deck that made a difference. Maybe it's just me. The Windmill's dogs and Cali burgers don't make it anymore either. Bring back Skee-Ball. ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
as one restaraunt guy in Pier V. was overheard saying to a worker = "...people don't come here because the foodthey are paying for the view" He's successful despite himself. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're right Allan, it'll definitely appeal to certain groups because > it's a "safe" location. I doubt it brings many to other points in > Long Branch though. They've kind of created their own little suburb > within the town. > Well it does bring people into other parts of town. Right down Broadway, thus the effort to get Broadway up and running. Kind of like if AP/Neptune cleaned up Asbury ave and Springwood - 2 gateways to the shore. 33 is now nearing completion and now its a matter of time for some of those properties to get cleaned up some more. Then the entire stretch of 35 from the circle to the belmar bridge. Go to Florida. Drive rt 1 from Ft. Lauderdale to S. Beach and keep on going. Drive through ft. meyers. orlando. Granted you can't see the ocean any more - but at least what you can see is clean. I rather see a couple nice strips or "neighborhod centers" with big green patches then 4 miles of half-ass buildings with broken cars, barbed wire fences and crap all over. Chelsea ave in long branch had to rank right up there with one of the worst street in monmouth county that had nice old large victorians chopped up. They made an attempt to bring the two sides of ocean ave together. theres plenty more growth left in long branch and asbury. start by enforcing clean and safe streets, housing violations and crime. Start with education. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
Hinge, I wonder if the majority of arts related people all feel the same way about Pier Village. My friends hate it as well. Of course, I also remember the old Long Branch boardwalk and stuff. I know that plays a role in how I feel about Pier Village, but mainly it's the fact that I think it's horribly ugly. On Oct 11, 2007, at 2:31 PM, Hinge wrote: It's my opinion Allan, and I have friends who share the same opinion. That's the bottom line. It might not be the popular opinion, but I'm not going to keep my thoughts to myself when I have one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. > > > - Original Message > From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM > Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > Hinge, > > > You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: > > > I guess it's a matter of taste. > I hate it with a passion. > I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. > And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. > In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a > destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming > ugly building to look at. > And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier > Village. > In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. > I will never view a shopping center as a destination. > But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. > I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson wrote: > > > > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not > perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there > before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on > the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Hinge > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > > > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. > > I loved it. > > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, > friendly > > with dignity. > > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. > > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. > > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. > > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. > > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. > > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. > > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they > all > > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. > > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red > Bank > > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, > and the > > lack of parking annoying. > > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that > it's the > > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow >
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
It's my opinion Allan, and I have friends who share the same opinion. That's the bottom line. It might not be the popular opinion, but I'm not going to keep my thoughts to myself when I have one. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was > the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. > > > - Original Message > From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM > Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > Hinge, > > > You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's > extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: > > > I guess it's a matter of taste. > I hate it with a passion. > I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. > And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my > heart. > In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture > becomes a > destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming > ugly building to look at. > And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long > before Pier > Village. > In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. > I will never view a shopping center as a destination. > But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when > i'm bored. > I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson wrote: > > > > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. > > The design is not > perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about > what was there > before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree > with retail on > the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. > > > > > > - Original Message > > From: Hinge > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > > > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. > > I loved it. > > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not > > overly friendly, > friendly > > with dignity. > > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. > > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. > > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. > > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. > > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. > > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. > > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. > > Interestingly, they > all > > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. > > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that > > while Red > Bank > > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts > > too expensive, > and the > > lack of parking annoying. > > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all > > agreed that > it's the > > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who > > knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for > today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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You're right Allan, it'll definitely appeal to certain groups because it's a "safe" location. I doubt it brings many to other points in Long Branch though. They've kind of created their own little suburb within the town. On Oct 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Allan Peterson wrote: All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. - Original Message From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review Hinge, You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. > > > - Original Message > From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. > I loved it. > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly > with dignity. > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the > lack of parking annoying. > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. > > > > > > > __ > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. - Original Message From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review Hinge, You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The > design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. > > > - Original Message > From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. > I loved it. > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly > friendly, friendly > with dignity. > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. > Interestingly, they all > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that > while Red Bank > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too > expensive, and the > lack of parking annoying. > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all > agreed that it's the > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. > > > > > > > __ > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who > knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
Hinge, You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. > > > - Original Message > From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. > I loved it. > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, friendly > with dignity. > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they all > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red Bank > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, and the > lack of parking annoying. > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that it's the > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. > > > > > > > __ > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 >
[AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
I guess it's a matter of taste. I hate it with a passion. I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming ugly building to look at. And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier Village. In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. I will never view a shopping center as a destination. But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. > The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. > > > - Original Message > From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. > I loved it. > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly > friendly, friendly > with dignity. > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. > Interestingly, they all > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that > while Red Bank > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too > expensive, and the > lack of parking annoying. > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all > agreed that it's the > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. > > > > > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who > knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
