[AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding
-Werner, if you think a few malcontents on this board arguing back and forth is going to change anything in Asbury, I want whatever drugs you're doing! <];~) -- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can see Werner going crazy with these posts that bare > > only a small reference to Asbury Park > > You got that right! Reminds me of that guy playing the > fiddle while Rome burned around him. > > "Meaning: Dithering about with unimportant things > while important things get left unattended." > > Sounds like the inmates have taken over the asylum again. :-) > > Really though, I see the 'off-topic' discussions as just another > indicator that people have resigned themelves to the decisions made > and direction being taken in Asbury Park. > > Seems that time (4+ years) has been on "their" side to wear out the > concerned minority and critics of public policy. As evidenced by the > lack of focus on attempting to correct some of the obvious > deficiencies in our City's "Big Plan" > > Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can see Werner going crazy with these posts that bare > only a small reference to Asbury Park You got that right! Reminds me of that guy playing the fiddle while Rome burned around him. "Meaning: Dithering about with unimportant things while important things get left unattended." Sounds like the inmates have taken over the asylum again. :-) Really though, I see the 'off-topic' discussions as just another indicator that people have resigned themelves to the decisions made and direction being taken in Asbury Park. Seems that time (4+ years) has been on "their" side to wear out the concerned minority and critics of public policy. As evidenced by the lack of focus on attempting to correct some of the obvious deficiencies in our City's "Big Plan" Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding -- the weaknesses of your argument
Skippy you've grown very mean from being drunk everyday. (hiccup!). --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "However there seems to be empirical evidence that training a kid in > math and science will have a far better impact on the world than > training him to urinate on a crucifix and calling it art." > > Being ever so sensitive to your moods, and not wanting to call you a > liar, might you tell us where oh great BlindBishop did you see, read > or hear that anyone is training anybody to piss on a crucifix? > > One of the weaknesses of your argument, and your ever present > niggardliness, is that you simultaneously fail to appreciate that > education is not confined to school hours, days or facilities, and > that were you successful and might grab all the money in the world, > you would still remain a miserable bastard. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Great point. However there seems to be empirical evidence that > > training a kid in math and science will have a far better impact on > > the world than training him to urinate on a crucifix and calling it > > art. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can see Werner going crazy with these posts that bare only a > > small > > > reference to Asbury Park > > > > > > Blue: since you said you didn't want to fund anyone's ideas - > > right or > > > left... > > > > > > How do you feel about our tax dollars funding schools? > > Personally, I think > > > it's horrible that my money largely goes to fund kids that aren't > > mine. > > > Even worse, I think it's insane that people who choose not to have > > kids are > > > forced to pay for the education of those who do have kids. > > > > > > How is this funding ANY different than the funding of ideas > > through the > > > arts? > > > > > > Especially since the arts is such a small part of the budget yet > > education > > > is what drives our property taxes through the roof... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding
I care for it so little that I'm willing to make a trade. How about no abatements of private condo taxes in exchange for no funding of PBS, NPR and NEA? Deal? My side is ready. Your side won't compromise as usual. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can I assume from your argument against subsidies that you are against > PILOT programs & tax abatements for million-dollar townhouses? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding
On 10/3/05 8:20 PM, "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can I assume from your argument against subsidies that you are against > PILOT programs & tax abatements for million-dollar townhouses? Not only that, but I'm guessing he's definitely against the use of tax abatements to lure people into condos with an ocean-view. God knows, we must be dragging people by their hair to take a brand new condo with a view of the Atlantic. I'm sure they'd prefer to be staring at the back of a building or something. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding
Does anyone else notice since funding for the fine arts have been cut in Public Schools in the mid-90s how embarrassingly small high school bands have gotten? You can also say the cutting of physical education budgets is positively correlated to the level of childhood obesity. Whatever happened to "Anima Sana in Corpore Sano"? I guess it's been replaced with "Save a buck & screw the future". --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great point. However there seems to be empirical evidence that > training a kid in math and science will have a far better impact on > the world than training him to urinate on a crucifix and calling it > art. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding
Can I assume from your argument against subsidies that you are against PILOT programs & tax abatements for million-dollar townhouses? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding -- the weaknesses of your argument
"However there seems to be empirical evidence that training a kid in math and science will have a far better impact on the world than training him to urinate on a crucifix and calling it art." Being ever so sensitive to your moods, and not wanting to call you a liar, might you tell us where oh great BlindBishop did you see, read or hear that anyone is training anybody to piss on a crucifix? One of the weaknesses of your argument, and your ever present niggardliness, is that you simultaneously fail to appreciate that education is not confined to school hours, days or facilities, and that were you successful and might grab all the money in the world, you would still remain a miserable bastard. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great point. However there seems to be empirical evidence that > training a kid in math and science will have a far better impact on > the world than training him to urinate on a crucifix and calling it > art. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can see Werner going crazy with these posts that bare only a > small > > reference to Asbury Park > > > > Blue: since you said you didn't want to fund anyone's ideas - > right or > > left... > > > > How do you feel about our tax dollars funding schools? > Personally, I think > > it's horrible that my money largely goes to fund kids that aren't > mine. > > Even worse, I think it's insane that people who choose not to have > kids are > > forced to pay for the education of those who do have kids. > > > > How is this funding ANY different than the funding of ideas > through the > > arts? > > > > Especially since the arts is such a small part of the budget yet > education > > is what drives our property taxes through the roof... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding
On 10/3/05 7:47 PM, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great point. However there seems to be empirical evidence that > training a kid in math and science will have a far better impact on > the world than training him to urinate on a crucifix and calling it > art. > And with that you forget about the 99% of art that doesn't involve that as all. The worst thing Giulini ever did was promote that exhibit. If he hadn't said anything, it most likely would have been shut down quickly due to lack of interest. And by the way, there are plenty of studies of how introducing kids to art and music dramatically helps them in school. But spending money is spending money. Just be consistent. Why shouldn't a school have to grovel for corporate sponsorship too? Maybe Asbury Park High School should be renamed Coke Presents Asbury Park High School and we can all save a LOT of money. After all, another place we can agree on is that education is where the vast majority of our tax dollars flow. And vouchers won't solve that problem either. It's still going to take our tax dollars... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One last note on funding
Great point. However there seems to be empirical evidence that training a kid in math and science will have a far better impact on the world than training him to urinate on a crucifix and calling it art. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can see Werner going crazy with these posts that bare only a small > reference to Asbury Park > > Blue: since you said you didn't want to fund anyone's ideas - right or > left... > > How do you feel about our tax dollars funding schools? Personally, I think > it's horrible that my money largely goes to fund kids that aren't mine. > Even worse, I think it's insane that people who choose not to have kids are > forced to pay for the education of those who do have kids. > > How is this funding ANY different than the funding of ideas through the > arts? > > Especially since the arts is such a small part of the budget yet education > is what drives our property taxes through the roof... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
