[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, great example of grammar. You wrote this..."hey, your the thorn in long branch's > side." It's you're, not your. > And for the record, you'll probably find plenty of my mistakes as well, but it's the thought > that counts, not the vehicle. (i guess this is why you never made it out of the saint or brighton and moved on to a real career) > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > remember you should think before you write. maybe you should think > > before you spell. you cant even understand half the things you do > > write. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > > > > > i just added you to the list...how did i forget > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay > > > > > > there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, > > > > mario, James Grabe > > > > > > skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over > > > > > > Roleover, > > > Thank You its a Honor to with with them.They are postive for Asbury > > Park.Maybe you should go for some walks on the Boardwalk good source > > of exercise.If you want we can meet on there & talk with me. Always > > remember to think first before you right!! > > > > > > > Roleover, > > > > > You really need to consider getting some help someone to sit > > down & > > > > talk with.You have alot of anger in yourself start eatting > > Healthy & > > > > Exercise.Talk to someone you have nothing but negative things to > > say > > > > on this site about some postive people for Asbury Park.Not a good > > > > thing for you! > > > > > > > > > > James Grabe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why... Motion = to move a question Basic!!!
Geeze Tommy... "A Motion" Is a moving question! Did you sleep in Parlimentary Proceedure in college? Oh, Iam sorry... Law School? "I so move" it's a question, that requires a second, to be discussed. The only protocol Keady would have needed was to be given the floor by the chair of the meeting. I wasn't there. Was he given the floor? If he had the floor, he could do whatever he wanted at that time. He "moved" a question, as a motion for funding for a depressed part of the community. Stop trying to make Keady out to be the "Asbury Devil!" LOL God's love shall be shed abroad to us all... Amen KB Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
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[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
Gez! Kevin, for the last time, ITS THE PROCEDURE!!! CAN'T BE DONE ON A MOTION No one is saying the WSCC or any other private company can't have the money. NOT ON A MOTION Understand? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > well if I were to accept Tommy's private non participating public > monies policy, than how would you quantify and even qualify the > public private application of eminent domain in redevelopment or mass > revitilazation. > > As for Government money going into the coffers of private > organizations - you should understand that CDBG monies go into > private hands all the time. > > Affordable houseing projects transfer lands to non profits and the > non profits enter houseing agreements with for profit contractors in > more cases than I would dare to mention. > > Just ask yourself one question... cash or considerations of value, > like tax abatesments... now ask yourself, Is Fishman and the others, > Non Profit or For Profit companies? > > Your concern is unfounded. > > If that wasn't enough, than what about privitazation of governmental > city services, agents fees and lobbiests. What about paid treasurers > and professional contracts??? > > The asbury Park council could have easily contracted The West Side > group to perform a service with the funds, and Tommy you already know > this. > > Keady's motion was extraordinary, yet appropriate, if at the least to > get the ball rolling. I am really surprised Fishman didn't offer to > donate the $100,000.00 to west side. That would have been a great > jesture from one end of the community to another. > > Kevin Brown > > PS - Yes I have run for elected office, and Iam now planning on > running for State Senate in the 11 th in 2007. I think what is > desperately needed is out of the box thinking on the way government > meets the needs of it's community. Legal and inventive solutions, > should never be shunned because they are unique. > > www.votekevinbrown.com > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
well if I were to accept Tommy's private non participating public monies policy, than how would you quantify and even qualify the public private application of eminent domain in redevelopment or mass revitilazation. As for Government money going into the coffers of private organizations - you should understand that CDBG monies go into private hands all the time. Affordable houseing projects transfer lands to non profits and the non profits enter houseing agreements with for profit contractors in more cases than I would dare to mention. Just ask yourself one question... cash or considerations of value, like tax abatesments... now ask yourself, Is Fishman and the others, Non Profit or For Profit companies? Your concern is unfounded. If that wasn't enough, than what about privitazation of governmental city services, agents fees and lobbiests. What about paid treasurers and professional contracts??? The asbury Park council could have easily contracted The West Side group to perform a service with the funds, and Tommy you already know this. Keady's motion was extraordinary, yet appropriate, if at the least to get the ball rolling. I am really surprised Fishman didn't offer to donate the $100,000.00 to west side. That would have been a great jesture from one end of the community to another. Kevin Brown PS - Yes I have run for elected office, and Iam now planning on running for State Senate in the 11 th in 2007. I think what is desperately needed is out of the box thinking on the way government meets the needs of it's community. Legal and inventive solutions, should never be shunned because they are unique. www.votekevinbrown.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
Yeah, great example of grammar. You wrote this..."hey, your the thorn in long branch's side." It's you're, not your. And for the record, you'll probably find plenty of my mistakes as well, but it's the thought that counts, not the vehicle. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > remember you should think before you write. maybe you should think > before you spell. you cant even understand half the things you do > write. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > > > i just added you to the list...how did i forget > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay > > > > > there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, > > > mario, James Grabe > > > > > skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over > > > > Roleover, > > Thank You its a Honor to with with them.They are postive for Asbury > Park.Maybe you should go for some walks on the Boardwalk good source > of exercise.If you want we can meet on there & talk with me. Always > remember to think first before you right!! > > > > > Roleover, > > > > You really need to consider getting some help someone to sit > down & > > > talk with.You have alot of anger in yourself start eatting > Healthy & > > > Exercise.Talk to someone you have nothing but negative things to > say > > > on this site about some postive people for Asbury Park.Not a good > > > thing for you! > > > > > > > > James Grabe > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
remember you should think before you write. maybe you should think before you spell. you cant even understand half the things you do write. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > i just added you to the list...how did i forget > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > > > > > hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay > > > > there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, > > mario, James Grabe > > > > skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over > > Roleover, > Thank You its a Honor to with with them.They are postive for Asbury Park.Maybe you should go for some walks on the Boardwalk good source of exercise.If you want we can meet on there & talk with me. Always remember to think first before you right!! > > > Roleover, > > > You really need to consider getting some help someone to sit down & > > talk with.You have alot of anger in yourself start eatting Healthy & > > Exercise.Talk to someone you have nothing but negative things to say > > on this site about some postive people for Asbury Park.Not a good > > thing for you! > > > > > > James Grabe > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i just added you to the list...how did i forget > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > > > hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay > > > there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, > mario, James Grabe > > > skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over Roleover, Thank You its a Honor to with with them.They are postive for Asbury Park.Maybe you should go for some walks on the Boardwalk good source of exercise.If you want we can meet on there & talk with me. Always remember to think first before you right!! > > Roleover, > > You really need to consider getting some help someone to sit down & > talk with.You have alot of anger in yourself start eatting Healthy & > Exercise.Talk to someone you have nothing but negative things to say > on this site about some postive people for Asbury Park.Not a good > thing for you! > > > > James Grabe > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
i just added you to the list...how did i forget --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" wrote: > > > > hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay > > there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, mario, James Grabe > > skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over > Roleover, > You really need to consider getting some help someone to sit down & talk with.You have alot of anger in yourself start eatting Healthy & Exercise.Talk to someone you have nothing but negative things to say on this site about some postive people for Asbury Park.Not a good thing for you! > > James Grabe > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay > there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, mario, > skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over > Roleover, You really need to consider getting some help someone to sit down & talk with.You have alot of anger in yourself start eatting Healthy & Exercise.Talk to someone you have nothing but negative things to say on this site about some postive people for Asbury Park.Not a good thing for you! James Grabe Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
And just out of curiosity, why would you call the group you mentioned a thorn? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay > there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, mario, > skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over > here...jeez > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" > wrote: > > > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should not > be > > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these > matters. > > > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council > members > > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too. > > > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the > > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question you > > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision > > until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your concrete > > opinion well known. > > > > Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token > amount. > > The West Side has needed proper funding for many years. > > > > Turn your own tables over for a minute. Having Keady chair, should > > make the transaction more palatable, unless you do not trust keady? > > > > I say this to Giordano in Long Branch all the time; "You have to > > decide whether you want to be a councilman or a banker, whenever > his > > bank and his role as a councilman/development agent conflict. He > has > > yet to get the message, and remains in questionable status between > > his Bank and His elected office. > > > > You on the other hand - can not dare represent a nuetral tone > between > > the 4 councilman in with the MOB and the one outside (Keady) when > you > > are being paid by the inside MOB! > > > > (My MOB reference is likened to a madding crowd and not the > sicilian > > black hand of corruption in local towns and governments.) > > > > These are just my thoughts, and you should take them beyond a grain > > of salt and a dash of tobasco! > > > > The best way for harmony to come to the asbury park council is to > > recall one of the 4 and add another member like Keady. That will > > give you some protection from the status quo of the last decade. > > > > > > KB > > www.asburyparknj.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
Kevin are you intentionally missing the point? No one is saying they don't want to give the West Side Community Center $100,000.00. But you can't give away $100,000.00 to a private company on a motion, on a matter that isn't on the agenda. Please tell me you know that - you've run for office yourself. Jack - Kevin's post is a perfect example of why it was a cheap trick. Because there are people out there like Kevin, they will think that only Keady wanted to help the West Side because he rasied the motion and the others didn't becuase they didn't support the motion, when in fact they couldn't because it was procedurally wrong. Kevin proves the point more perfectly than I could say it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should not be > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these matters. > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council members > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too. > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question you > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision > until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your concrete > opinion well known. > > Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token amount. > The West Side has needed proper funding for many years. > > Turn your own tables over for a minute. Having Keady chair, should > make the transaction more palatable, unless you do not trust keady? > > I say this to Giordano in Long Branch all the time; "You have to > decide whether you want to be a councilman or a banker, whenever his > bank and his role as a councilman/development agent conflict. He has > yet to get the message, and remains in questionable status between > his Bank and His elected office. > > You on the other hand - can not dare represent a nuetral tone between > the 4 councilman in with the MOB and the one outside (Keady) when you > are being paid by the inside MOB! > > (My MOB reference is likened to a madding crowd and not the sicilian > black hand of corruption in local towns and governments.) > > These are just my thoughts, and you should take them beyond a grain > of salt and a dash of tobasco! > > The best way for harmony to come to the asbury park council is to > recall one of the 4 and add another member like Keady. That will > give you some protection from the status quo of the last decade. > > > KB > www.asburyparknj.com > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
Hey wait a minute. I'm no thorn. I love Asbury. I live in Asbury. Thats why i'm here. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rolemover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay > there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, mario, > skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over > here...jeez > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" > wrote: > > > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should not > be > > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these > matters. > > > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council > members > > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too. > > > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the > > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question you > > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision > > until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your concrete > > opinion well known. > > > > Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token > amount. > > The West Side has needed proper funding for many years. > > > > Turn your own tables over for a minute. Having Keady chair, should > > make the transaction more palatable, unless you do not trust keady? > > > > I say this to Giordano in Long Branch all the time; "You have to > > decide whether you want to be a councilman or a banker, whenever > his > > bank and his role as a councilman/development agent conflict. He > has > > yet to get the message, and remains in questionable status between > > his Bank and His elected office. > > > > You on the other hand - can not dare represent a nuetral tone > between > > the 4 councilman in with the MOB and the one outside (Keady) when > you > > are being paid by the inside MOB! > > > > (My MOB reference is likened to a madding crowd and not the > sicilian > > black hand of corruption in local towns and governments.) > > > > These are just my thoughts, and you should take them beyond a grain > > of salt and a dash of tobasco! > > > > The best way for harmony to come to the asbury park council is to > > recall one of the 4 and add another member like Keady. That will > > give you some protection from the status quo of the last decade. > > > > > > KB > > www.asburyparknj.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
hey, your the thorn in long branch's side, why dont ya stay there...we have plenty of asbury thorns: maureen, dan, hinge, mario, skip to name a few, we dont need the long branch thorns over here...jeez --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should not be > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these matters. > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council members > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too. > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question you > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision > until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your concrete > opinion well known. > > Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token amount. > The West Side has needed proper funding for many years. > > Turn your own tables over for a minute. Having Keady chair, should > make the transaction more palatable, unless you do not trust keady? > > I say this to Giordano in Long Branch all the time; "You have to > decide whether you want to be a councilman or a banker, whenever his > bank and his role as a councilman/development agent conflict. He has > yet to get the message, and remains in questionable status between > his Bank and His elected office. > > You on the other hand - can not dare represent a nuetral tone between > the 4 councilman in with the MOB and the one outside (Keady) when you > are being paid by the inside MOB! > > (My MOB reference is likened to a madding crowd and not the sicilian > black hand of corruption in local towns and governments.) > > These are just my thoughts, and you should take them beyond a grain > of salt and a dash of tobasco! > > The best way for harmony to come to the asbury park council is to > recall one of the 4 and add another member like Keady. That will > give you some protection from the status quo of the last decade. > > > KB > www.asburyparknj.com > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why... "whismical factor"
I find thi smost intrigueing. Alert that Keady would dare want to give $100,000.00 to west side concerns... when the other 4 council man gave a way an entire ocean front on a warm and fuzzy feeling... which whims are good and which are dangerous to the economic health of a community??? KB God be merciful to us all. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should not be attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these matters. I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council members anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too. Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question you post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your concrete opinion well known. Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token amount. The West Side has needed proper funding for many years. Turn your own tables over for a minute. Having Keady chair, should make the transaction more palatable, unless you do not trust keady? I say this to Giordano in Long Branch all the time; "You have to decide whether you want to be a councilman or a banker, whenever his bank and his role as a councilman/development agent conflict. He has yet to get the message, and remains in questionable status between his Bank and His elected office. You on the other hand - can not dare represent a nuetral tone between the 4 councilman in with the MOB and the one outside (Keady) when you are being paid by the inside MOB! (My MOB reference is likened to a madding crowd and not the sicilian black hand of corruption in local towns and governments.) These are just my thoughts, and you should take them beyond a grain of salt and a dash of tobasco! The best way for harmony to come to the asbury park council is to recall one of the 4 and add another member like Keady. That will give you some protection from the status quo of the last decade. KB www.asburyparknj.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
Now wait a minute. If his father is in fact dead, then that is complete asshole statement, and completely uncalled for. Very cheap shot. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > He's climbing that stairway to heaven to see his Daddy. > > > > > > > Well, you may have a point there. > > But trying to save Asbury isn't a crime, and he seems to be a > pretty humble guy in my > > opinion. I sincerely doubt his is look for personal gains by > wanting all the credit. > > Hey, are we ever going to discuss anything else here besides Jim > Keady. This is getting to > > be a bit boring. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because something like that should be dicussed and researched. > It's s > > > knee-jerk re-action. Jim Keady is like a goalie in soccer he > stands > > > there alone with all the answers. He will never change. He wants > to > > > be the Lone Ranger. He wants to save Asbury his way, he wants all > the > > > credit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, you may be right. > > > > Only question I have then is why is voting it down the > responsible > > > thing? > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can > not > > > be > > > > > passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't > he > > > > > putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do the > responsible > > > > > thing and vote it down, in the postion of being mistaken for > > > people > > > > > who have no commitment to the West Side? > > > > > > > > > > That's why it's such a dirty trick. > > > > > > > > > > I wish JK would address that issue on this board. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was > trying > > > to > > > > > show a greater commitment, > > > > > > no a "trick" Please don't mince my words. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below > actually > > > > > agrees > > > > > > > with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else have an answer here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater > > > > > commitment > > > > > > > from the town. Is that > > > > > > > > so wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did > last > > > night > > > > > > > until I > > > > > > > > > hear from those on this board that support him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone please tell my why... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night with all the people there to complain > about > > > the > > > > > > > east/west > > > > > > > > > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht > is or > > > is > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, > without > > > > > warning > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make > a > > > > > motion > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of > the > > > > > > > > > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 > month > > > > > away > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 > month > > > > > away. > > > > > > > It is > > > > > > > > > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will > deal > > > with > > > > > > > > > recreation issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community > Center, > > > a > > > > > > > private > > > > > > > > > Company does. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, > no > > > > > plans, > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut > a > > > > > private > > > > > > > > > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with > no > > > > > hearing. > > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > > any other private company received a $
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He's climbing that stairway to heaven to see his Daddy. Well, you may have a point there. > But trying to save Asbury isn't a crime, and he seems to be a pretty humble guy in my > opinion. I sincerely doubt his is look for personal gains by wanting all the credit. > Hey, are we ever going to discuss anything else here besides Jim Keady. This is getting to > be a bit boring. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Because something like that should be dicussed and researched. It's s > > knee-jerk re-action. Jim Keady is like a goalie in soccer he stands > > there alone with all the answers. He will never change. He wants to > > be the Lone Ranger. He wants to save Asbury his way, he wants all the > > credit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, you may be right. > > > Only question I have then is why is voting it down the responsible > > thing? > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not > > be > > > > passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he > > > > putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do the responsible > > > > thing and vote it down, in the postion of being mistaken for > > people > > > > who have no commitment to the West Side? > > > > > > > > That's why it's such a dirty trick. > > > > > > > > I wish JK would address that issue on this board. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was trying > > to > > > > show a greater commitment, > > > > > no a "trick" Please don't mince my words. > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually > > > > agrees > > > > > > with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else have an answer here? > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater > > > > commitment > > > > > > from the town. Is that > > > > > > > so wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last > > night > > > > > > until I > > > > > > > > hear from those on this board that support him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone please tell my why... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night with all the people there to complain about > > the > > > > > > east/west > > > > > > > > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or > > is > > > > not > > > > > > > > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, without > > > > warning > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make a > > > > motion > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of the > > > > > > > > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 month > > > > away > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 month > > > > away. > > > > > > It is > > > > > > > > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will deal > > with > > > > > > > > recreation issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community Center, > > a > > > > > > private > > > > > > > > Company does. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, no > > > > plans, > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut a > > > > private > > > > > > > > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with no > > > > hearing. > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > any other private company received a $100,000.00 donation > > of > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > money, there would certainly (rightfully) be public > > outrage > > > > and > > > > > > > > calls to the prosecutor for investigation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I think: JK was pandering. He knew full > > well > > > > there > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > not a chance in the world that his motion would or even > > > > should > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > voted on. > > > > > > > > > > > >
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
Well, you may have a point there. But trying to save Asbury isn't a crime, and he seems to be a pretty humble guy in my opinion. I sincerely doubt his is look for personal gains by wanting all the credit. Hey, are we ever going to discuss anything else here besides Jim Keady. This is getting to be a bit boring. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > Because something like that should be dicussed and researched. It's s > knee-jerk re-action. Jim Keady is like a goalie in soccer he stands > there alone with all the answers. He will never change. He wants to > be the Lone Ranger. He wants to save Asbury his way, he wants all the > credit. > > > > > > > Well, you may be right. > > Only question I have then is why is voting it down the responsible > thing? > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > > > The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not > be > > > passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he > > > putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do the responsible > > > thing and vote it down, in the postion of being mistaken for > people > > > who have no commitment to the West Side? > > > > > > That's why it's such a dirty trick. > > > > > > I wish JK would address that issue on this board. > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was trying > to > > > show a greater commitment, > > > > no a "trick" Please don't mince my words. > > > > Thank you. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually > > > agrees > > > > > with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone else have an answer here? > > > > > > > > > > Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater > > > commitment > > > > > from the town. Is that > > > > > > so wrong? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last > night > > > > > until I > > > > > > > hear from those on this board that support him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone please tell my why... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night with all the people there to complain about > the > > > > > east/west > > > > > > > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or > is > > > not > > > > > > > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, without > > > warning > > > > > to > > > > > > > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make a > > > motion > > > > > to > > > > > > > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of the > > > > > > > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 month > > > away > > > > > from > > > > > > > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 month > > > away. > > > > > It is > > > > > > > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will deal > with > > > > > > > recreation issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community Center, > a > > > > > private > > > > > > > Company does. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, no > > > plans, > > > > > no > > > > > > > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut a > > > private > > > > > > > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with no > > > hearing. > > > > > If > > > > > > > any other private company received a $100,000.00 donation > of > > > > > public > > > > > > > money, there would certainly (rightfully) be public > outrage > > > and > > > > > > > calls to the prosecutor for investigation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I think: JK was pandering. He knew full > well > > > there > > > > > was > > > > > > > not a chance in the world that his motion would or even > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > > voted on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JK wanted the people who were there to say the West > doesn't > > > get > > > > > > > enough, see him ask for $100,000.00 for them, and see the > > > rest > > > > > of > > > > > > > the council say no. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That would make him look good, at the cost of stoking the > > > fires > > > > > of > > > > > > > the geopgracphic, economic and racial divide. That was > pure > > > > > >
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
For a government to just gift $100K to a private company, you would certainly want the matter addressed as to what they are going to to with it, is it earmarked for particular purposes, is there budgets, real contractors with insurance, etc. Then you would want a hearing on the matter with notice to the public. There are equal protection issues too. Imagine if they could on a whim just hand out $100K to a private firm. Imagine the next week some councilmember saying "I move to give the Boy Scouts of America $100K" or "I move to give the gay and Lesbian Q-Spot $100K" or "I move to give Tommy $100K for Columbus Day Festivities." I would think to give out that kind of money you would have to have a stated grant program with qualifications to meet, otherwise the penchant for fraud, abuse and patronage would be high. I think JK is savvy enough to know he can't give away $100K of public money to a private firm on a motion. That's why I say he really put his fellow councilmembers in a bad postion - they had to turn it down, but he made it look like they don't care. Very cheap trick. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, you may be right. > Only question I have then is why is voting it down the responsible thing? > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" wrote: > > > > The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be > > passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he > > putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do the responsible > > thing and vote it down, in the postion of being mistaken for people > > who have no commitment to the West Side? > > > > That's why it's such a dirty trick. > > > > I wish JK would address that issue on this board. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was trying to > > show a greater commitment, > > > no a "trick" Please don't mince my words. > > > Thank you. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually > > agrees > > > > with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. > > > > > > > > Anyone else have an answer here? > > > > > > > > Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater > > commitment > > > > from the town. Is that > > > > > so wrong? > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last night > > > > until I > > > > > > hear from those on this board that support him. > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone please tell my why... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night with all the people there to complain about the > > > > east/west > > > > > > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or is > > not > > > > > > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, without > > warning > > > > to > > > > > > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make a > > motion > > > > to > > > > > > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of the > > > > > > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 month > > away > > > > from > > > > > > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 month > > away. > > > > It is > > > > > > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will deal with > > > > > > recreation issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community Center, a > > > > private > > > > > > Company does. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, no > > plans, > > > > no > > > > > > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut a > > private > > > > > > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with no > > hearing. > > > > If > > > > > > any other private company received a $100,000.00 donation of > > > > public > > > > > > money, there would certainly (rightfully) be public outrage > > and > > > > > > calls to the prosecutor for investigation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I think: JK was pandering. He knew full well > > there > > > > was > > > > > > not a chance in the world that his motion would or even > > should > > > > be > > > > > > voted on. > > > > > > > > > > > > JK wanted the people who were there to say the West doesn't > > get > > > > > > enough, see him ask for $100,000.00 for them, and see the > > rest > > > > of > > > > > > the council say no. > > > > > > > > > > > >
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Because something like that should be dicussed and researched. It's s knee-jerk re-action. Jim Keady is like a goalie in soccer he stands there alone with all the answers. He will never change. He wants to be the Lone Ranger. He wants to save Asbury his way, he wants all the credit. Well, you may be right. > Only question I have then is why is voting it down the responsible thing? > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" wrote: > > > > The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be > > passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he > > putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do the responsible > > thing and vote it down, in the postion of being mistaken for people > > who have no commitment to the West Side? > > > > That's why it's such a dirty trick. > > > > I wish JK would address that issue on this board. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was trying to > > show a greater commitment, > > > no a "trick" Please don't mince my words. > > > Thank you. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually > > agrees > > > > with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. > > > > > > > > Anyone else have an answer here? > > > > > > > > Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater > > commitment > > > > from the town. Is that > > > > > so wrong? > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last night > > > > until I > > > > > > hear from those on this board that support him. > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone please tell my why... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night with all the people there to complain about the > > > > east/west > > > > > > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or is > > not > > > > > > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, without > > warning > > > > to > > > > > > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make a > > motion > > > > to > > > > > > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of the > > > > > > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 month > > away > > > > from > > > > > > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 month > > away. > > > > It is > > > > > > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will deal with > > > > > > recreation issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community Center, a > > > > private > > > > > > Company does. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, no > > plans, > > > > no > > > > > > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut a > > private > > > > > > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with no > > hearing. > > > > If > > > > > > any other private company received a $100,000.00 donation of > > > > public > > > > > > money, there would certainly (rightfully) be public outrage > > and > > > > > > calls to the prosecutor for investigation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I think: JK was pandering. He knew full well > > there > > > > was > > > > > > not a chance in the world that his motion would or even > > should > > > > be > > > > > > voted on. > > > > > > > > > > > > JK wanted the people who were there to say the West doesn't > > get > > > > > > enough, see him ask for $100,000.00 for them, and see the > > rest > > > > of > > > > > > the council say no. > > > > > > > > > > > > That would make him look good, at the cost of stoking the > > fires > > > > of > > > > > > the geopgracphic, economic and racial divide. That was pure > > > > > > political pandering to make him look good even though it > > hurt > > > > the > > > > > > relations among the City's people. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's my theory, but I said I'd reserve decision. If that > > is > > > > not > > > > > > why he did it, > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone, please, tell me why... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*>
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
Well, you may be right. Only question I have then is why is voting it down the responsible thing? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be > passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he > putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do the responsible > thing and vote it down, in the postion of being mistaken for people > who have no commitment to the West Side? > > That's why it's such a dirty trick. > > I wish JK would address that issue on this board. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was trying to > show a greater commitment, > > no a "trick" Please don't mince my words. > > Thank you. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > > > I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually > agrees > > > with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. > > > > > > Anyone else have an answer here? > > > > > > Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater > commitment > > > from the town. Is that > > > > so wrong? > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last night > > > until I > > > > > hear from those on this board that support him. > > > > > > > > > > Someone please tell my why... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night with all the people there to complain about the > > > east/west > > > > > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or is > not > > > > > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, without > warning > > > to > > > > > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make a > motion > > > to > > > > > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > > > > > > > > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of the > > > > > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > > > > > > > > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 month > away > > > from > > > > > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 month > away. > > > It is > > > > > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will deal with > > > > > recreation issues. > > > > > > > > > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community Center, a > > > private > > > > > Company does. > > > > > > > > > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, no > plans, > > > no > > > > > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut a > private > > > > > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with no > hearing. > > > If > > > > > any other private company received a $100,000.00 donation of > > > public > > > > > money, there would certainly (rightfully) be public outrage > and > > > > > calls to the prosecutor for investigation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I think: JK was pandering. He knew full well > there > > > was > > > > > not a chance in the world that his motion would or even > should > > > be > > > > > voted on. > > > > > > > > > > JK wanted the people who were there to say the West doesn't > get > > > > > enough, see him ask for $100,000.00 for them, and see the > rest > > > of > > > > > the council say no. > > > > > > > > > > That would make him look good, at the cost of stoking the > fires > > > of > > > > > the geopgracphic, economic and racial divide. That was pure > > > > > political pandering to make him look good even though it > hurt > > > the > > > > > relations among the City's people. > > > > > > > > > > That's my theory, but I said I'd reserve decision. If that > is > > > not > > > > > why he did it, > > > > > > > > > > Someone, please, tell me why... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think they'll down in A.C. The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be > passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he > putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do the responsible > thing and vote it down, in the postion of being mistaken for people > who have no commitment to the West Side? > > That's why it's such a dirty trick. > > I wish JK would address that issue on this board. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was trying to > show a greater commitment, > > no a "trick" Please don't mince my words. > > Thank you. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > > > I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually > agrees > > > with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. > > > > > > Anyone else have an answer here? > > > > > > Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > > > Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater > commitment > > > from the town. Is that > > > > so wrong? > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last night > > > until I > > > > > hear from those on this board that support him. > > > > > > > > > > Someone please tell my why... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night with all the people there to complain about the > > > east/west > > > > > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or is > not > > > > > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, without > warning > > > to > > > > > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make a > motion > > > to > > > > > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > > > > > > > > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of the > > > > > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > > > > > > > > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 month > away > > > from > > > > > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 month > away. > > > It is > > > > > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will deal with > > > > > recreation issues. > > > > > > > > > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community Center, a > > > private > > > > > Company does. > > > > > > > > > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, no > plans, > > > no > > > > > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut a > private > > > > > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with no > hearing. > > > If > > > > > any other private company received a $100,000.00 donation of > > > public > > > > > money, there would certainly (rightfully) be public outrage > and > > > > > calls to the prosecutor for investigation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I think: JK was pandering. He knew full well > there > > > was > > > > > not a chance in the world that his motion would or even > should > > > be > > > > > voted on. > > > > > > > > > > JK wanted the people who were there to say the West doesn't > get > > > > > enough, see him ask for $100,000.00 for them, and see the > rest > > > of > > > > > the council say no. > > > > > > > > > > That would make him look good, at the cost of stoking the > fires > > > of > > > > > the geopgracphic, economic and racial divide. That was pure > > > > > political pandering to make him look good even though it > hurt > > > the > > > > > relations among the City's people. > > > > > > > > > > That's my theory, but I said I'd reserve decision. If that > is > > > not > > > > > why he did it, > > > > > > > > > > Someone, please, tell me why... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
The problem is Jack if making that motion (that he knows can not be passed) is somehow showing support for the West Side, isn't he putting his fellow councilmembers, who have to do the responsible thing and vote it down, in the postion of being mistaken for people who have no commitment to the West Side? That's why it's such a dirty trick. I wish JK would address that issue on this board. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was trying to show a greater commitment, > no a "trick" Please don't mince my words. > Thank you. > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" wrote: > > > > I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually agrees > > with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. > > > > Anyone else have an answer here? > > > > Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > > > Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater commitment > > from the town. Is that > > > so wrong? > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last night > > until I > > > > hear from those on this board that support him. > > > > > > > > Someone please tell my why... > > > > > > > > > > > > Last night with all the people there to complain about the > > east/west > > > > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or is not > > > > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, without warning > > to > > > > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make a motion > > to > > > > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > > > > > > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > > > > > > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of the > > > > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > > > > > > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 month away > > from > > > > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 month away. > > It is > > > > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will deal with > > > > recreation issues. > > > > > > > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community Center, a > > private > > > > Company does. > > > > > > > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, no plans, > > no > > > > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut a private > > > > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with no hearing. > > If > > > > any other private company received a $100,000.00 donation of > > public > > > > money, there would certainly (rightfully) be public outrage and > > > > calls to the prosecutor for investigation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is what I think: JK was pandering. He knew full well there > > was > > > > not a chance in the world that his motion would or even should > > be > > > > voted on. > > > > > > > > JK wanted the people who were there to say the West doesn't get > > > > enough, see him ask for $100,000.00 for them, and see the rest > > of > > > > the council say no. > > > > > > > > That would make him look good, at the cost of stoking the fires > > of > > > > the geopgracphic, economic and racial divide. That was pure > > > > political pandering to make him look good even though it hurt > > the > > > > relations among the City's people. > > > > > > > > That's my theory, but I said I'd reserve decision. If that is > > not > > > > why he did it, > > > > > > > > Someone, please, tell me why... > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
With all due respect, I disagree. I saying that he was trying to show a greater commitment, no a "trick" Please don't mince my words. Thank you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually agrees > with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. > > Anyone else have an answer here? > > Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" wrote: > > > > Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater commitment > from the town. Is that > > so wrong? > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > wrote: > > > > > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last night > until I > > > hear from those on this board that support him. > > > > > > Someone please tell my why... > > > > > > > > > Last night with all the people there to complain about the > east/west > > > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or is not > > > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, without warning > to > > > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make a motion > to > > > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > > > > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > > > > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of the > > > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > > > > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 month away > from > > > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 month away. > It is > > > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will deal with > > > recreation issues. > > > > > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community Center, a > private > > > Company does. > > > > > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, no plans, > no > > > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut a private > > > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with no hearing. > If > > > any other private company received a $100,000.00 donation of > public > > > money, there would certainly (rightfully) be public outrage and > > > calls to the prosecutor for investigation. > > > > > > > > > Here is what I think: JK was pandering. He knew full well there > was > > > not a chance in the world that his motion would or even should > be > > > voted on. > > > > > > JK wanted the people who were there to say the West doesn't get > > > enough, see him ask for $100,000.00 for them, and see the rest > of > > > the council say no. > > > > > > That would make him look good, at the cost of stoking the fires > of > > > the geopgracphic, economic and racial divide. That was pure > > > political pandering to make him look good even though it hurt > the > > > relations among the City's people. > > > > > > That's my theory, but I said I'd reserve decision. If that is > not > > > why he did it, > > > > > > Someone, please, tell me why... > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually agrees > with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. > > Anyone else have an answer here? > > Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. > I wasn't there lqast night and I have heard different things. Maybe it was as you say and maybe it wasn't. Was he asking for the funds to be given or was he asking to explore the matter? I certainly would not approve of giving the funds without ample investigation, analysis AND public hearing. I think I answered it fairly as I can without knowing all of the facts. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
I son't think you meant to Jack, but your post below actually agrees with me that it was just a trick Keady was pulling. Anyone else have an answer here? Maybe JK himself would like to weigh in. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater commitment from the town. Is that > so wrong? > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" wrote: > > > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last night until I > > hear from those on this board that support him. > > > > Someone please tell my why... > > > > > > Last night with all the people there to complain about the east/west > > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or is not > > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, without warning to > > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make a motion to > > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of the > > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 month away from > > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 month away. It is > > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will deal with > > recreation issues. > > > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community Center, a private > > Company does. > > > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, no plans, no > > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut a private > > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with no hearing. If > > any other private company received a $100,000.00 donation of public > > money, there would certainly (rightfully) be public outrage and > > calls to the prosecutor for investigation. > > > > > > Here is what I think: JK was pandering. He knew full well there was > > not a chance in the world that his motion would or even should be > > voted on. > > > > JK wanted the people who were there to say the West doesn't get > > enough, see him ask for $100,000.00 for them, and see the rest of > > the council say no. > > > > That would make him look good, at the cost of stoking the fires of > > the geopgracphic, economic and racial divide. That was pure > > political pandering to make him look good even though it hurt the > > relations among the City's people. > > > > That's my theory, but I said I'd reserve decision. If that is not > > why he did it, > > > > Someone, please, tell me why... > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Someone Tell Me Why...
Perhaps he was hoping to show the west side a greater commitment from the town. Is that so wrong? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm going to reserve decision on something JK did last night until I > hear from those on this board that support him. > > Someone please tell my why... > > > Last night with all the people there to complain about the east/west > racial divide, with all the high tension about waht is or is not > being done on the West Side, why did Jim Keady, without warning to > other council members, in front of all, suddenly make a motion to > hand the West Side Community Center $100,000.00? > > Before you answer, here's some things I do know: > > 1. Jim Keady is the Chair, and Rev. Nunn a member, of the > Springwoond Avenue Advisory Committee. > > 2. That Committee, after a year of work, is about 1 month away from > a issuing a report for West Side redevelopment. 1 month away. It is > supposed to be a very comprehensive plan that will deal with > recreation issues. > > 3. The City does not own the West Side Community Center, a private > Company does. > > 4. With no application sitting in front the Council, no plans, no > drawings - nothing - it would be reckless to just cut a private > company $100,000.00 of public money on a motion with no hearing. If > any other private company received a $100,000.00 donation of public > money, there would certainly (rightfully) be public outrage and > calls to the prosecutor for investigation. > > > Here is what I think: JK was pandering. He knew full well there was > not a chance in the world that his motion would or even should be > voted on. > > JK wanted the people who were there to say the West doesn't get > enough, see him ask for $100,000.00 for them, and see the rest of > the council say no. > > That would make him look good, at the cost of stoking the fires of > the geopgracphic, economic and racial divide. That was pure > political pandering to make him look good even though it hurt the > relations among the City's people. > > That's my theory, but I said I'd reserve decision. If that is not > why he did it, > > Someone, please, tell me why... > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
