Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Racisim. You are funny. Here is an example of racism. You have groups of people in the middle east that have been killing each other for centuries. They are all the same people, all the same religion, yet they can't stop killing each other. Blacks, Whites, Asians, martians are all racists and I don't care what political affiliation you are. How about not being allowed to attend a wedding with your wife, whi is, because you are NOT Asian? --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 10:53 AM The Right "does" racism all the time- in private. It's better when they expose themselves, openly, for what they really are and what they really think. On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:47 AM, justifiedright wrote: > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon > wrote: > > > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. > >Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be > >rollin a blunt right now! > > Whoa whoa whoa - that's gotta be a terms of service violation. Even > if it isn't, we don't do racism around here. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Is 50% a generalization? If it were 51% it would be a majority. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 5:31 PM Generalization is always at the core of every racist --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon wrote: > > Well perhaps if education didn't hurt and the high school dropout rates were > somehow get above 50% they would have the opportunity to go on to further their education. Don't finish high school and there "ain't" nothin much else to do but get high. > > Black parents have no responsibility to see that their kids finish high > school. No it is white people that cause the problem. I'm the racist huh? I don't have to look anything up Sharon > I completed my education and I didn't get out of grad school a bleeding heart > liberal. > BTW I can roll a blunt as well as anyone in the hood. > > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, sharon_b283 wrote: > > From: sharon_b283 > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com > Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:00 AM > > > > > > > Built in racism always has its' assumptions, "that all brothas do"! > Where'd he get that? At home, that's where! ALTRUISMS are false! > Look it up! > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John > wrote: > > > > Racists should not hide their BigotLight under a bushel. > > > > On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:05 AM, dfsavgny wrote: > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. > > > Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be > > > rollin a blunt right now! > > > > > > You are a disgusting racist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Really? Are you aware that Barney Frank introduced a bill this year to decriminilize it? People smoke it, people buy it, so why not tax the hell out of it!!! We did a bang up job of preventing alcohol from getting into the country during prohibition. I have a feeling this will be the year! --- On Fri, 10/3/08, dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: dfsavgny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 8:05 AM --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon wrote: > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be rollin a blunt right now! You are a disgusting racist. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Generalization is always at the core of every racist --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well perhaps if education didn't hurt and the high school dropout rates were > somehow get above 50% they would have the opportunity to go on to further their education. Don't finish high school and there "ain't" nothin much else to do but get high. > > Black parents have no responsibility to see that their kids finish high > school. No it is white people that cause the problem. I'm the racist huh? I don't have to look anything up Sharon > I completed my education and I didn't get out of grad school a bleeding heart > liberal. > BTW I can roll a blunt as well as anyone in the hood. > > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, sharon_b283 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: sharon_b283 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:00 AM > > > > > > > Built in racism always has its' assumptions, "that all brothas do"! > Where'd he get that? At home, that's where! ALTRUISMS are false! > Look it up! > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John > wrote: > > > > Racists should not hide their BigotLight under a bushel. > > > > On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:05 AM, dfsavgny wrote: > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. > > > Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be > > > rollin a blunt right now! > > > > > > You are a disgusting racist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Shouldn't you be in your jammies now? It is way past your bedtime. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 10:30 AM Racists should not hide their BigotLight under a bushel. On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:05 AM, dfsavgny wrote: > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon > wrote: > > > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. > Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be > rollin a blunt right now! > > You are a disgusting racist. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Well perhaps if education didn't hurt and the high school dropout rates were somehow get above 50% they would have the opportunity to go on to further their education. Don't finish high school and there "ain't" nothin much else to do but get high. Black parents have no responsibility to see that their kids finish high school. No it is white people that cause the problem. I'm the racist huh? I don't have to look anything up Sharon I completed my education and I didn't get out of grad school a bleeding heart liberal. BTW I can roll a blunt as well as anyone in the hood. --- On Fri, 10/3/08, sharon_b283 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: sharon_b283 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 11:00 AM Built in racism always has its' assumptions, "that all brothas do"! Where'd he get that? At home, that's where! ALTRUISMS are false! Look it up! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Jersey Shore John wrote: > > Racists should not hide their BigotLight under a bushel. > > On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:05 AM, dfsavgny wrote: > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Mike Hemeon > > wrote: > > > > > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. > > Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be > > rollin a blunt right now! > > > > You are a disgusting racist. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Built in racism always has its' assumptions, "that all brothas do"! Where'd he get that? At home, that's where! ALTRUISMS are false! Look it up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Racists should not hide their BigotLight under a bushel. > > On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:05 AM, dfsavgny wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon > > wrote: > > > > > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. > > Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be > > rollin a blunt right now! > > > > You are a disgusting racist. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Racists should not hide their BigotLight under a bushel. On Oct 3, 2008, at 8:05 AM, dfsavgny wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. > Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be > rollin a blunt right now! > > You are a disgusting racist. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be rollin a blunt right now! You are a disgusting racist. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
The Right "does" racism all the time- in private. It's better when they expose themselves, openly, for what they really are and what they really think. On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:47 AM, justifiedright wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. > >Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be > >rollin a blunt right now! > > Whoa whoa whoa - that's gotta be a terms of service violation. Even > if it isn't, we don't do racism around here. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. >Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be >rollin a blunt right now! Whoa whoa whoa - that's gotta be a terms of service violation. Even if it isn't, we don't do racism around here. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Electing a candidate with no experience that is more left than Hillary Clinton is pushing the country in the right direction? He refuses to be seen with the American flag why is that? He refuses to visit wounded soldiers why is that? YOu have no answers and it is perfectly alright with Dems. He is a mamma's boy but it isn't his fault. He father took off on him when he was young and had a few more kids he deserted. It' a black thing you wouldn't understand. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 8:16 PM Sorry, but there are plenty of things that America can't be proud of these days. Blind patriotism is lame. The most patriotic thing a person could do is speak about when our country heads in the wrong direction. And now for a moment of humor, for you Fox News lovers out there; http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=KTkqosRiyYo --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: > > I am so sick of hearing people decry our country. > Patriotism and the practice thereof became a silent issue not too long ago. > Maybe for good reasons, there were a whole lot of flags flying. > But this other extreme, this amplification of Michelle Obama's statement that > she was FINALLY proud to be an American is sickening. > If your not proud to be an American the door swings both ways. > We welcome the sick and oppressed and the tired and the poor and we will > gladly slam the door on the butts of the spoiled rotten who are blinded by the light that is America. > > > tommi boy and gabbi wrote"Posted by: "Gabrielle Obre" gabrielleobre@ ... > gabrielleobre > Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:24 am (PDT) > > > > > > You said this: > > > > "As Americans we are > > constantly distracted by the superficial, disconnected from our > > communities, we avoid genuine involvement with our local governments > > and we provide wealth to the companies that screw us in the end. We > > are intellectually lazy and narcissistic. We care only how we look, > > what we drive and how that compares to others. > > > > I blame American anti intellectualism for a big chunk of that and am > > amazed that "elite" could be considered a derogatory remark." > > > > > > So you made a sweeping generalization about a group to which I > > belong. You even anticipagted our counter-arguement (elitism) in > > your post. > > > > Did you really expect me, as part of the group you criticized, to not > > respond? > > > > You posted something not too long ago about fascism stopping speech. > > Yet here in practice, on this board, you try the same. > > > > as you can clearly see, i included myself in that group. i am an > american tommy so don't throw that rovian tribal bs at me. i have two > family members that fought in the am rev and a couple in the civ war. > they did not fight for what this country has become. we have become > soulless, narcissistic and yes.. ignorant. not stupid. we need to move > to a world centric perspective or we are not going to make it. > > paris hilton gets more media play than any elected official. football > players make more money than teachers. there is an ad in the TCN for a > "G-Spot shot". WE are pathetic, and WE can be so much more. > > throw the elite label at me all you want, i won't go into the many > reasons why its absurd to throw it my way. and you didn't prove i said > i was smarter than everyone else and now you also have to prove i have > tried to quash anyone from posting. i have been begging for > discussion. i even suggested we all hang out. > > i know its rough and all with the white christian male pedestal > crumbling. i have a picture in my mind...this old angry white guy > standing on a rock. limp and shadow boxing. clinging, clinging, > clinging (thats the same as wanting wanting wanting). come on down > tommy, it'll be ok and its going to be so much more FUN! > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
What war were you in Jack? Racism? Much of the racism in this country isn't by white people. It gets old hearing about it it is time for people to take responsibility for their own actions. Obama doesn't hav enough experience and when things don't go his way he cries racism but that is alright. Let's hope whe there is an emergency he has time to rehearse a response. I hope that Biden is sleeping next to him if the phone rings at 3AM. --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jack Pitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 11:22 PM Here's a few things that you didn't notice: Torture. A war based on lies. Our greed effecting the entire world. Racism. We're fat as hell. Religion and it's effect on our countries policies. We stare at boxes (i.e. TV, internet, cell phones) Ball players make more then teachers. Get sick and spend the rest of your life paying for it. Stupid people buying houses they can't afford, and lenders making jokes about our stupidity. Conspicuous consumption. Britney Spears was headline news. Our music sucks. We invented the crawl at the bottom of the screen, and we now use tiny little sound bytes to think that we actually know what's going on in the world. We have a candidate for VP that thinks being close to Russia is foreign policy experience. We "elected" GW Bush to be our president, and during his 8 years in office...blah blah blah. So yeah, we're just fine. Great. Greatest country on the planet. Slightly more then 200 years old, and we've got it all figured out. And we have true blue American's like traderdube to cheer us along. Right. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: > > I am so sick of hearing people decry our country. > Patriotism and the practice thereof became a silent issue not too long ago. > Maybe for good reasons, there were a whole lot of flags flying. > But this other extreme, this amplification of Michelle Obama's statement that > she was FINALLY proud to be an American is sickening. > If your not proud to be an American the door swings both ways. > We welcome the sick and oppressed and the tired and the poor and we will > gladly slam the door on the butts of the spoiled rotten who are blinded by the light that is America. > > > tommi boy and gabbi wrote"Posted by: "Gabrielle Obre" gabrielleobre@ ... > gabrielleobre > Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:24 am (PDT) > > > > > > You said this: > > > > "As Americans we are > > constantly distracted by the superficial, disconnected from our > > communities, we avoid genuine involvement with our local governments > > and we provide wealth to the companies that screw us in the end. We > > are intellectually lazy and narcissistic. We care only how we look, > > what we drive and how that compares to others. > > > > I blame American anti intellectualism for a big chunk of that and am > > amazed that "elite" could be considered a derogatory remark." > > > > > > So you made a sweeping generalization about a group to which I > > belong. You even anticipagted our counter-arguement (elitism) in > > your post. > > > > Did you really expect me, as part of the group you criticized, to not > > respond? > > > > You posted something not too long ago about fascism stopping speech. > > Yet here in practice, on this board, you try the same. > > > > as you can clearly see, i included myself in that group. i am an > american tommy so don't throw that rovian tribal bs at me. i have two > family members that fought in the am rev and a couple in the civ war. > they did not fight for what this country has become. we have become > soulless, narcissistic and yes.. ignorant. not stupid. we need to move > to a world centric perspective or we are not going to make it. > > paris hilton gets more media play than any elected official. football > players make more money than teachers. there is an ad in the TCN for a > "G-Spot shot". WE are pathetic, and WE can be so much more. > > throw the elite label at me all you want, i won't go into the many > reasons why its absurd to throw it my way. and you didn't prove i said > i was smarter than everyone else and now you also have to prove i have > tried to quash anyone from posting. i have been begging for > discussion. i even suggested we all hang out. > > i know its rough and all with the white christian male pedestal > crumbling. i have a picture in my mind...this old angry white guy > standing on a rock. limp a
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YEah. Now that is one thing that Obama will bring to the picture. Legalized pot! He loves the stuff, but what brother doesn't. I be rollin a blunt right now! --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Gabrielle Obre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Gabrielle Obre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 12:09 AM i have NO idea what you mean or where you stand. all i know is that i want to know...are you a trader who smokes pot? but i love the tommi boy and gabbi thing. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: > > I am so sick of hearing people decry our country. > Patriotism and the practice thereof became a silent issue not too long ago. > Maybe for good reasons, there were a whole lot of flags flying. > But this other extreme, this amplification of Michelle Obama's statement that she was FINALLY proud to be an American is sickening. > If your not proud to be an American the door swings both ways. > We welcome the sick and oppressed and the tired and the poor and we will gladly slam the door on the butts of the spoiled rotten who are blinded by the light that is America. > > > tommi boy and gabbi wrote"Posted by: "Gabrielle Obre" gabrielleobre@ ... gabrielleobre > Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:24 am (PDT) > > > > > > You said this: > > > > "As Americans we are > > constantly distracted by the superficial, disconnected from our > > communities, we avoid genuine involvement with our local governments > > and we provide wealth to the companies that screw us in the end. We > > are intellectually lazy and narcissistic. We care only how we look, > > what we drive and how that compares to others. > > > > I blame American anti intellectualism for a big chunk of that and am > > amazed that "elite" could be considered a derogatory remark." > > > > > > So you made a sweeping generalization about a group to which I > > belong. You even anticipagted our counter-arguement (elitism) in > > your post. > > > > Did you really expect me, as part of the group you criticized, to not > > respond? > > > > You posted something not too long ago about fascism stopping speech. > > Yet here in practice, on this board, you try the same. > > > > as you can clearly see, i included myself in that group. i am an > american tommy so don't throw that rovian tribal bs at me. i have two > family members that fought in the am rev and a couple in the civ war. > they did not fight for what this country has become. we have become > soulless, narcissistic and yes.. ignorant. not stupid. we need to move > to a world centric perspective or we are not going to make it. > > paris hilton gets more media play than any elected official. football > players make more money than teachers. there is an ad in the TCN for a > "G-Spot shot". WE are pathetic, and WE can be so much more. > > throw the elite label at me all you want, i won't go into the many > reasons why its absurd to throw it my way. and you didn't prove i said > i was smarter than everyone else and now you also have to prove i have > tried to quash anyone from posting. i have been begging for > discussion. i even suggested we all hang out. > > i know its rough and all with the white christian male pedestal > crumbling. i have a picture in my mind...this old angry white guy > standing on a rock. limp and shadow boxing. clinging, clinging, > clinging (thats the same as wanting wanting wanting). come on down > tommy, it'll be ok and its going to be so much more FUN! > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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nice discussion, thanks. i won't say i am proud to be american, but i am extremely grateful. i also know that my life and the comparable ease that i have comes in some part at the expense of others in other countries. cheap clothes, cheap energy, security etc.. so i feel a sense of responsibility. i don't have the drives and fears that many americans seem to have...no nagging urge to own property, get married or spawn. i dont care if i don't have a lot of money, don't care if i am never "successful" in the eyes of others. i dig my life, i love my freedom. i truly believe we are here primarily to grow in love and consciousness. to move from egocentric to ethnocentric to worldcentric and beyond. there is a lot about this country that i feel the urge to rail against. and matt taibi and Jack have done it pretty well. blind patriotism is simply delusional but a great thing for fascists. hitler did a lot of damage with the "my country right or wrong" people. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Very well said. It's okay to be proud and I'm proud of the way you said it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think to be "proud" is the wrong word when one is referring to > something over which one has no control (at least by birth). I was > born in the USA, I am a woman, etc. Am I "proud" to be a woman? Am > I "proud" to be an American? As a word choice, I always found that > odd. I am proud of my accomplishments, but I am not "proud" of > things I had no control over. > > I have lived in this country and in another. I have also travelled > extensively. I like certain things about this country, I like > certain things about other countries. I believe as a nation, > however, we have an extensive amount that we must work on, > accomplish, if you will. > > I look at how I was raised. Upper-middle class suburb, great > schools, safe town, etc. My dad worked hard as a local attorney, and > we had a good life. A generation later, in certain ways, I am more > academically accomplished than my father, and I am more financially > accomplished then he ever was. But the landscape has changed. I > could not give my children (theoretical children) what I had growing > up. The house I grew up in is now worth $2 million! > > I am 35 and married. I work ten hours a day, commuting two hours > each way to work in NYC. I work for a major company. I like AP, > don't get me wrong, but I have a 2 bedroom house and I don't think I > would send my theoretical children to school here. If I have a major > illness and can't work, I am finished. I would lose my tiny house. I > can't sell my house because of the housing crisis, so I can't move > closer to the city. And, if I could, where I could afford to live > would not be the "American Dream" suburb I grew up in (it would be > Jersey City). And, if I do have those theoretical children, I have > no idea what I would do- I am gone 14 hours a day and having one > spouse stay home is a luxury most can't afford anymore. > > I consider myself one of the lucky ones. I am an attorney, with > health insurance and a good job. But our overall quality of life is > slipping. People scream "socialism" at any attempt to make life > better, ie, health care for the vast majority of people. But compare > our quality of life to that of those in some European countries (6 > weeks vacation, state run child care, health care, etc). Sure, they > pay more taxes, but they get more services. Here, that "American > Dream" is slipping away, or is reserved only for the wealthy with > their golden parachutes. The rest of us schmucks will just drown > ourselves in debt, trying to make our way, and keeping our fingers > crossed that we do not get sick. Oh, but as an added bonus, we get > to pay for those golden parachutes because we are told if we don't > things will get even worse! Is that something we should be "proud" > of? I just don't see that as the right word. > > That is my rant (and I didn't even discuss the Iraq war disaster). > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a realtor, are you not very concerned about where we are as a > nation? One of my realtor friends comes here to go to the clinics in > Asbury for medical care bc things have gotten so bad. > Selling real estate isn't for all. Not for me either. Commercial is a different story - if you're good and hustle and don't waste time posting shit on the net. I showed a condo in N. Beach today. So was it the best use of my time. Don't know. I can look at it as I met a real nice couple that I spent around 3 or 4 hours with in AP then Long Branch. Will they buy? If they do, time well spent, if not it sucks - for now. Would I be doing this had my wife not gone back to work with a pretty good salary and I shifted paying my own bennies as self employed at $1200 per month to her at around $900/month? There will be a big shakeout in the in the field. Why? How many homeowners and banks will eventually shift from using real estate agents and commissons will continue to be reduced. Why? The Internet. Realtor.com may have millons and millons of visitors but so do other sites. The various listing services are all there...more and more advanced services will be there and you just might be able to sell your home on your own if set at a fair market price. Takes time and patience - so therefore you find a real estate agent. There's no science to it. One Real estate agent said you don't make money in real estate SELLING houses, you make money listing them. Sign here, see ya later let some one else sell. YOu can take more listings quicker then hauling someone around and wondering why a door doesn't close right ot whether or not the paint in the bathroom is the right color... time management and a second or third source of income helps. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not saying this is the best place in the world. When I was programming some years back at palces like AIG, ML , ATT... I worked with all sorts of foreigners. That was around the time of the big Y2K "scare"salaries were real good. No benefits, cause I was consulting and my wife wasn't working. They all came here for the opportunity that America gave them. The guys and girls i worked with from India all sent money home or saved it here and planned on your going back at some point - either perm or to get married etc. I almost went into an outsourcing thing with a guy, but then figured if I gave him 20k to get set up and he left, how'd I ever find him? The russians guys when we worked at AIG in a basement room with no windows, drew pictures of the Kremlin on the whiteboard..working with more security then needed...they said Moscow was more fun then being in a room with no windows and pc's chained to desks... The Chineese guys gave me the best advice when I was new - "just say ok ok.." YOu learn alot about working with people from other countries and it makes you appreciate alot of what we do have and take for granted and bitch about. Like the guy in India who told me how the mailman would walk right past your home (that you shared with generations of your family) and you had to pay him to get your mail... Most of us aren't peeing and bathing in the same water either. We have lots of freedoms here..except off-topic postings. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Another point- I heard someone say recently "Most of the middle class are one serious illness away from financial disaster." I had a cancer scare when I was in between jobs (of course) and the crappy insurance (a Blue Cross plan) I paid $300/month for hardly covered anything. And they said if I did have cancer, well, let's say I would be in big trouble. Thankfully, I did not bc if I did, I do not know how I would have paid my bills, I would have lost my house, etc etc. If I was poor and had nothing, at least I could get care, and if they came after me for the bills, well, you can't get blood from a stone. But if you have something, you can quickly find yourself with nothing. Wouldn't it be nice if that was not the case? As a realtor, are you not very concerned about where we are as a nation? One of my realtor friends comes here to go to the clinics in Asbury for medical care bc things have gotten so bad. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I do consider myself lucky, but people in other countries have that opportunity as well. Do you think people in Canada do not have opportunities to succeed? France? Belgium? In Costa Rica, I have never seen so many small business owners making their way quite nicely. What you describe is not unique to this country any more. Are Canadians coming over the border in droves to make something of themselves? Are the Swedes? The Dutch? Actually, I was in India for a while, and it is a tough place. I loved certain things about India, but the poverty is very diffcult to swallow. Anyway, when I got off the plane in Paris and into a cab, I had that same feeling. I was home. Not bc I ever lived in Paris, but because I was back in a first world counry. I could brush my teeth with the water! I could walk around by myself! The whole feel of Paris was familiar. Hey, I live here, and it works for me. But, Americans often have this inflated sense of self worth, like "America is the best country in the world, everything else sucks!" And, that is just not true. We really need to take a good look in the mirror and see where we have gone astray and look to fix it. All countries have their good points and bad points, including ours. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "fancypaaantz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think to be "proud" is the wrong word when one is referring to > something over which one has no control (at least by birth). I was > born in the USA, I am a woman, etc. Am I "proud" to be a woman? Am > I "proud" to be an American? As a word choice, I always found that > odd. I am proud of my accomplishments, but I am not "proud" of > things I had no control over. Be happy that you were been given the opportunity to succeed (by birth to successful parents) and took advantage (the opportunity) to succeed. Success and opportunity are funny words also. Even if I go away and come back into Newark airport with its real ugly views as you land - you're still back. Even if that means coming back from Flordia. In the US, you have opportunity to succeed and to fail. Failure here in the US is not as big a deal as it is elsewhere. Even prisoners in the US have rights and opportunity to succeed. Banks and CO's all have the right to fail - with no consquences to those that drove the failures. Hara-kiri should be their option. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I think to be "proud" is the wrong word when one is referring to something over which one has no control (at least by birth). I was born in the USA, I am a woman, etc. Am I "proud" to be a woman? Am I "proud" to be an American? As a word choice, I always found that odd. I am proud of my accomplishments, but I am not "proud" of things I had no control over. I have lived in this country and in another. I have also travelled extensively. I like certain things about this country, I like certain things about other countries. I believe as a nation, however, we have an extensive amount that we must work on, accomplish, if you will. I look at how I was raised. Upper-middle class suburb, great schools, safe town, etc. My dad worked hard as a local attorney, and we had a good life. A generation later, in certain ways, I am more academically accomplished than my father, and I am more financially accomplished then he ever was. But the landscape has changed. I could not give my children (theoretical children) what I had growing up. The house I grew up in is now worth $2 million! I am 35 and married. I work ten hours a day, commuting two hours each way to work in NYC. I work for a major company. I like AP, don't get me wrong, but I have a 2 bedroom house and I don't think I would send my theoretical children to school here. If I have a major illness and can't work, I am finished. I would lose my tiny house. I can't sell my house because of the housing crisis, so I can't move closer to the city. And, if I could, where I could afford to live would not be the "American Dream" suburb I grew up in (it would be Jersey City). And, if I do have those theoretical children, I have no idea what I would do- I am gone 14 hours a day and having one spouse stay home is a luxury most can't afford anymore. I consider myself one of the lucky ones. I am an attorney, with health insurance and a good job. But our overall quality of life is slipping. People scream "socialism" at any attempt to make life better, ie, health care for the vast majority of people. But compare our quality of life to that of those in some European countries (6 weeks vacation, state run child care, health care, etc). Sure, they pay more taxes, but they get more services. Here, that "American Dream" is slipping away, or is reserved only for the wealthy with their golden parachutes. The rest of us schmucks will just drown ourselves in debt, trying to make our way, and keeping our fingers crossed that we do not get sick. Oh, but as an added bonus, we get to pay for those golden parachutes because we are told if we don't things will get even worse! Is that something we should be "proud" of? I just don't see that as the right word. That is my rant (and I didn't even discuss the Iraq war disaster). Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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i have NO idea what you mean or where you stand. all i know is that i want to know...are you a trader who smokes pot? but i love the tommi boy and gabbi thing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am so sick of hearing people decry our country. > Patriotism and the practice thereof became a silent issue not too long ago. > Maybe for good reasons, there were a whole lot of flags flying. > But this other extreme, this amplification of Michelle Obama's statement that she was FINALLY proud to be an American is sickening. > If your not proud to be an American the door swings both ways. > We welcome the sick and oppressed and the tired and the poor and we will gladly slam the door on the butts of the spoiled rotten who are blinded by the light that is America. > > > tommi boy and gabbi wrote"Posted by: "Gabrielle Obre" [EMAIL PROTECTED] gabrielleobre > Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:24 am (PDT) > > > > > > You said this: > > > > "As Americans we are > > constantly distracted by the superficial, disconnected from our > > communities, we avoid genuine involvement with our local governments > > and we provide wealth to the companies that screw us in the end. We > > are intellectually lazy and narcissistic. We care only how we look, > > what we drive and how that compares to others. > > > > I blame American anti intellectualism for a big chunk of that and am > > amazed that "elite" could be considered a derogatory remark." > > > > > > So you made a sweeping generalization about a group to which I > > belong. You even anticipagted our counter-arguement (elitism) in > > your post. > > > > Did you really expect me, as part of the group you criticized, to not > > respond? > > > > You posted something not too long ago about fascism stopping speech. > > Yet here in practice, on this board, you try the same. > > > > as you can clearly see, i included myself in that group. i am an > american tommy so don't throw that rovian tribal bs at me. i have two > family members that fought in the am rev and a couple in the civ war. > they did not fight for what this country has become. we have become > soulless, narcissistic and yes.. ignorant. not stupid. we need to move > to a world centric perspective or we are not going to make it. > > paris hilton gets more media play than any elected official. football > players make more money than teachers. there is an ad in the TCN for a > "G-Spot shot". WE are pathetic, and WE can be so much more. > > throw the elite label at me all you want, i won't go into the many > reasons why its absurd to throw it my way. and you didn't prove i said > i was smarter than everyone else and now you also have to prove i have > tried to quash anyone from posting. i have been begging for > discussion. i even suggested we all hang out. > > i know its rough and all with the white christian male pedestal > crumbling. i have a picture in my mind...this old angry white guy > standing on a rock. limp and shadow boxing. clinging, clinging, > clinging (thats the same as wanting wanting wanting). come on down > tommy, it'll be ok and its going to be so much more FUN! > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Here's a few things that you didn't notice: Torture. A war based on lies. Our greed effecting the entire world. Racism. We're fat as hell. Religion and it's effect on our countries policies. We stare at boxes (i.e. TV, internet, cell phones) Ball players make more then teachers. Get sick and spend the rest of your life paying for it. Stupid people buying houses they can't afford, and lenders making jokes about our stupidity. Conspicuous consumption. Britney Spears was headline news. Our music sucks. We invented the crawl at the bottom of the screen, and we now use tiny little sound bytes to think that we actually know what's going on in the world. We have a candidate for VP that thinks being close to Russia is foreign policy experience. We "elected" GW Bush to be our president, and during his 8 years in office...blah blah blah. So yeah, we're just fine. Great. Greatest country on the planet. Slightly more then 200 years old, and we've got it all figured out. And we have true blue American's like traderdube to cheer us along. Right. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am so sick of hearing people decry our country. > Patriotism and the practice thereof became a silent issue not too long ago. > Maybe for good reasons, there were a whole lot of flags flying. > But this other extreme, this amplification of Michelle Obama's statement that > she was FINALLY proud to be an American is sickening. > If your not proud to be an American the door swings both ways. > We welcome the sick and oppressed and the tired and the poor and we will > gladly slam the door on the butts of the spoiled rotten who are blinded by the light that is America. > > > tommi boy and gabbi wrote"Posted by: "Gabrielle Obre" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > gabrielleobre > Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:24 am (PDT) > > > > > > You said this: > > > > "As Americans we are > > constantly distracted by the superficial, disconnected from our > > communities, we avoid genuine involvement with our local governments > > and we provide wealth to the companies that screw us in the end. We > > are intellectually lazy and narcissistic. We care only how we look, > > what we drive and how that compares to others. > > > > I blame American anti intellectualism for a big chunk of that and am > > amazed that "elite" could be considered a derogatory remark." > > > > > > So you made a sweeping generalization about a group to which I > > belong. You even anticipagted our counter-arguement (elitism) in > > your post. > > > > Did you really expect me, as part of the group you criticized, to not > > respond? > > > > You posted something not too long ago about fascism stopping speech. > > Yet here in practice, on this board, you try the same. > > > > as you can clearly see, i included myself in that group. i am an > american tommy so don't throw that rovian tribal bs at me. i have two > family members that fought in the am rev and a couple in the civ war. > they did not fight for what this country has become. we have become > soulless, narcissistic and yes.. ignorant. not stupid. we need to move > to a world centric perspective or we are not going to make it. > > paris hilton gets more media play than any elected official. football > players make more money than teachers. there is an ad in the TCN for a > "G-Spot shot". WE are pathetic, and WE can be so much more. > > throw the elite label at me all you want, i won't go into the many > reasons why its absurd to throw it my way. and you didn't prove i said > i was smarter than everyone else and now you also have to prove i have > tried to quash anyone from posting. i have been begging for > discussion. i even suggested we all hang out. > > i know its rough and all with the white christian male pedestal > crumbling. i have a picture in my mind...this old angry white guy > standing on a rock. limp and shadow boxing. clinging, clinging, > clinging (thats the same as wanting wanting wanting). come on down > tommy, it'll be ok and its going to be so much more FUN! > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: it's getting better all the time
Sorry, but there are plenty of things that America can't be proud of these days. Blind patriotism is lame. The most patriotic thing a person could do is speak about when our country heads in the wrong direction. And now for a moment of humor, for you Fox News lovers out there; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTkqosRiyYo --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am so sick of hearing people decry our country. > Patriotism and the practice thereof became a silent issue not too long ago. > Maybe for good reasons, there were a whole lot of flags flying. > But this other extreme, this amplification of Michelle Obama's statement that > she was FINALLY proud to be an American is sickening. > If your not proud to be an American the door swings both ways. > We welcome the sick and oppressed and the tired and the poor and we will > gladly slam the door on the butts of the spoiled rotten who are blinded by the light that is America. > > > tommi boy and gabbi wrote"Posted by: "Gabrielle Obre" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > gabrielleobre > Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:24 am (PDT) > > > > > > You said this: > > > > "As Americans we are > > constantly distracted by the superficial, disconnected from our > > communities, we avoid genuine involvement with our local governments > > and we provide wealth to the companies that screw us in the end. We > > are intellectually lazy and narcissistic. We care only how we look, > > what we drive and how that compares to others. > > > > I blame American anti intellectualism for a big chunk of that and am > > amazed that "elite" could be considered a derogatory remark." > > > > > > So you made a sweeping generalization about a group to which I > > belong. You even anticipagted our counter-arguement (elitism) in > > your post. > > > > Did you really expect me, as part of the group you criticized, to not > > respond? > > > > You posted something not too long ago about fascism stopping speech. > > Yet here in practice, on this board, you try the same. > > > > as you can clearly see, i included myself in that group. i am an > american tommy so don't throw that rovian tribal bs at me. i have two > family members that fought in the am rev and a couple in the civ war. > they did not fight for what this country has become. we have become > soulless, narcissistic and yes.. ignorant. not stupid. we need to move > to a world centric perspective or we are not going to make it. > > paris hilton gets more media play than any elected official. football > players make more money than teachers. there is an ad in the TCN for a > "G-Spot shot". WE are pathetic, and WE can be so much more. > > throw the elite label at me all you want, i won't go into the many > reasons why its absurd to throw it my way. and you didn't prove i said > i was smarter than everyone else and now you also have to prove i have > tried to quash anyone from posting. i have been begging for > discussion. i even suggested we all hang out. > > i know its rough and all with the white christian male pedestal > crumbling. i have a picture in my mind...this old angry white guy > standing on a rock. limp and shadow boxing. clinging, clinging, > clinging (thats the same as wanting wanting wanting). come on down > tommy, it'll be ok and its going to be so much more FUN! > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
