Re: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-22 Thread Wai-Sun Chia
On 6/22/05, Peter Svensson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grandstream clains thay will address the speakerphone problems in an
> upcoming release. I think they need a more advanced echo canceler since
> the speaker and microphone are acoustically strongly coupled.

This is the same problem that all the generic phones based on the
PA1688 chipset seem to be suffering from: i.e. AT320, etc.

/wai-sun
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-22 Thread barton-lists
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, June 22, 2005 15:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Thanks for the info... I am considering getting these to
experiment
>>> with, so I can do some testing *before* I actually get in to the
>>> real thing. The
>>> cheaper the test period, the better, so 2 of these (which later
can
>>> be reused in less used area's) look pretty interesting...
>> 
>> I have several Grandstream BT101's that are slightly used and I'm
>> looking to sell, if you're interested.
> 
> Where are you located? What price? Shipping?
> (Always interested in deals!)  ;-)

I'm in Arkansas, USA.  $50 each + shipping?  I'd prefer to ship via
UPS ground if that's possible.  If that's too much, then make me an
offer.  I just counted, and I have 6 (4 black, 2 white).  They work
fine, we just replaced them recently.

I have some Grandstream HandyTone 286 ATAs for sale too
http://tinyurl.com/8srg5

Taking this off-list might be appropriate.  Email me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Barton



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-22 Thread Francesco Peeters
On Wed, June 22, 2005 15:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Thanks for the info... I am considering getting these to
>> experiment with,
>> so I can do some testing *before* I actually get in to the
>> real thing. The
>> cheaper the test period, the better, so 2 of these (which later can
> be
>> reused in less used area's) look pretty interesting...
>
> I have several Grandstream BT101's that are slightly used and I'm
> looking to sell, if you're interested.
>
> Barton
>
>

Where are you located? What price? Shipping?
(Always interested in deals!)  ;-)

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-22 Thread Francesco Peeters
On Wed, June 22, 2005 17:17, Francesco Peeters said:
> On Wed, June 22, 2005 15:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> Thanks for the info... I am considering getting these to
>>> experiment with,
>>> so I can do some testing *before* I actually get in to the
>>> real thing. The
>>> cheaper the test period, the better, so 2 of these (which later can
>> be
>>> reused in less used area's) look pretty interesting...
>>
>> I have several Grandstream BT101's that are slightly used and I'm
>> looking to sell, if you're interested.
>>
>> Barton
>>
>>
>
> Where are you located? What price? Shipping?
> (Always interested in deals!)  ;-)
>
> --
> Francesco Peeters
> 
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> If your program doesn't recognize my signature, please visit
> http://www.CAcert.org/index.php?id=3 to retrieve the Root CA certificate.
>

Ehrm... Perhaps you'd better respond off-list though!  ;-)

--FP
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-22 Thread barton-lists
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks for the info... I am considering getting these to
> experiment with,
> so I can do some testing *before* I actually get in to the
> real thing. The
> cheaper the test period, the better, so 2 of these (which later can
be
> reused in less used area's) look pretty interesting...

I have several Grandstream BT101's that are slightly used and I'm
looking to sell, if you're interested.

Barton


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-22 Thread Peter Svensson
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Pavel Jezek wrote:

> I had gxp-2000 for testing some days, but features are (in current 
> firmware) _very_ limited!
> phone does not have missed, dialed numbers, phone book, speakerphone is 
> useless...

Some of these features are in the 1.0.1.9 version that was released last 
week. Missed and dialed numgers are available, although not in a very 
good interface (press the left and right arrows while off-hook). They do 
have separate memories per configured account.

Grandstream clains thay will address the speakerphone problems in an 
upcoming release. I think they need a more advanced echo canceler since 
the speaker and microphone are acoustically strongly coupled.

Also expected in the near term is suppor for Subscribe/Notify.

> phone have nice backlight display and in-line power :-)
> but if you like features, grandstream is not for you...

On the other hand Grandstream seem to care about what their users want, at 
least for minor features. Everything we asked for was included in the 
current release. They seem serious in their attempt to break into the 
higher end market.

Peter

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-22 Thread Pavel Jezek
I had gxp-2000 for testing some days, but features are (in current 
firmware) _very_ limited!
phone does not have missed, dialed numbers, phone book, speakerphone is 
useless...

phone have nice backlight display and in-line power :-)
but if you like features, grandstream is not for you...
PJ

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-22 Thread Francesco Peeters
On Wed, June 22, 2005 10:02, Ming-Wei Shih said:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 08:35:58AM +0200, Francesco Peeters wrote:
>> The shop I saw these also sells - pretty cheap -  little devices (forgot
>> the name, they look like a translucent blue ice-hockey puck) that do SIP
>> conversion for analog telephones or PBX extensions. (I am thinking
>> migration period here: first connect one of those to each of the two
>> PBXs
>> as an extension, so you can use it to 'dial' in to the * server.
>
> Is this a webshop in Europe? Care to share the URL?
>
> Regards
>
> Ming-Wei

Sorry, it's a real shop in Zoetermeer, the Netherlands, I visit sometimes...

They do have a website, but I doubt whether they have all their stuff on
there (they often have these small lots of special kit in the store) and
whether they have a webstore...

http://www.telec.com



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-22 Thread Ming-Wei Shih
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 08:35:58AM +0200, Francesco Peeters wrote:
> The shop I saw these also sells - pretty cheap -  little devices (forgot
> the name, they look like a translucent blue ice-hockey puck) that do SIP
> conversion for analog telephones or PBX extensions. (I am thinking
> migration period here: first connect one of those to each of the two PBXs
> as an extension, so you can use it to 'dial' in to the * server.

Is this a webshop in Europe? Care to share the URL?

Regards

Ming-Wei
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-21 Thread Francesco Peeters
On Tue, June 21, 2005 23:07, Kristof Hardy said:
> Francesco Peeters wrote:
>> I can get Grandstream 100 SIP phones for EUR 75. I'm not sure about the
>> pricing for these in Europe, so I'd like to hear from people here
>> whether
>> that is a reasonable price for them?
>
> Prices I know are around 99 EUR, incl VAT. But if you ask me, depending
> on how many you need, you should take a look into the GXP-2000. (+- 125
> EUR incl VAT)
>
> The difference in quality (and features) between these is big enough to
> justify the difference in price.
>
> Cheers..

Thanks for the info... I am considering getting these to experiment with,
so I can do some testing *before* I actually get in to the real thing. The
cheaper the test period, the better, so 2 of these (which later can be
reused in less used area's) look pretty interesting...

The shop I saw these also sells - pretty cheap -  little devices (forgot
the name, they look like a translucent blue ice-hockey puck) that do SIP
conversion for analog telephones or PBX extensions. (I am thinking
migration period here: first connect one of those to each of the two PBXs
as an extension, so you can use it to 'dial' in to the * server.

Then my migration plan - after initial testing - would then look like this:
1) Install * on both sites
2) IAX2 link
3) 'SIP-puck' on both PBX's and connect these to the * servers
(at this point all users can talk to eachother over landlines *and* SIP)
4) Start migrating inidividual users to SIP & *
5) retire old PBXs

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Grandstream 100 pricing question

2005-06-21 Thread Kristof Hardy

Francesco Peeters wrote:

I can get Grandstream 100 SIP phones for EUR 75. I'm not sure about the
pricing for these in Europe, so I'd like to hear from people here whether
that is a reasonable price for them?


Prices I know are around 99 EUR, incl VAT. But if you ask me, depending 
on how many you need, you should take a look into the GXP-2000. (+- 125 
EUR incl VAT)


The difference in quality (and features) between these is big enough to 
justify the difference in price.


Cheers..
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