[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DTS file for tests ?

2005-10-17 Thread seanadams

smst Wrote: 
> Update on my conversion utility:
> 


Nice work!

Is there a good way of tagging the FLAC files to indicate that they
contain DTS or AC3 instead of PCM? If so, then a future firmware rev
could do a couple things:

- set various s/pdif control bits to reflect non-PCM data (not that any
receivers care AFAIK).
- Disable the analog outputs

Also if you're willing to share your code under the BSD license we
could consider porting it to the firmware so that raw DTS or AC3 can be
streamed down (although this is probably not as good as FLAC since
there'd be no tagging).


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Need Dual Amp inputs?

2005-10-17 Thread sleepysurf

The Fidaudio switch certainly looks "audiophile" grade, though it
may/may not outperform the Radioshack.  Anybody up for more blind
testing .  Anticipating that audiophile friends will scoff at the
Radioshack, I made a label for mine.. "El Cheapo Non-Audiophile
Switch."

BTW, the Audio Circles thread derived from my cross-posting this topic
on Audio Asylum, and Wayne of Bolder Cable picking up on it!


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Need Dual Amp inputs?

2005-10-17 Thread jonwb

I'm in that same situation right now (I even have the same A/V
reciever).  There's a thread about this very topic over on Audio
Circles. Here:
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/viewtopic.php?t=22189

In addition to the aforementioned Radio Shack switch, these two also
came up:
http://fidaudio.com/quintete.html

http://www.decware.com/newsite/rotary.htm

Jon


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DTS file for tests ?

2005-10-17 Thread smst

That would have been my second guess. :D  Thanks.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DTS file for tests ?

2005-10-17 Thread sbjaerum

smst Wrote: 
> Do you mean that, for each 16-bit sample, the top bit needs to be
> flipped?

No, change 10 to -10 etc. I guess the wav samples are stored as
2-complement signed integers, so this is not equal to flipping only the
MSB bit.

Steinar


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Buying advice - Amp & Ceiling Speakers for SB

2005-10-17 Thread Mike Hanson

I got my Sonic Impact 5066 T-Amp from 'Parts Express'
(http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-952).

-=> Mike Hanson <=-


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DTS file for tests ?

2005-10-17 Thread smst

sbjaerum Wrote: 
> SB1 has bit-correct output at S/PDIF output except for a sign reversal
> of the samples. I get correct passthrough of DTS wav file if the sign
> of the samples is inverted.
> 
> Steinar
Do you mean that, for each 16-bit sample, the top bit needs to be
flipped?


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DTS file for tests ?

2005-10-17 Thread sbjaerum

smst Wrote: 
> Update on my conversion utility:
> 
> I've written a Python script which can convert an AC3 file to a WAV
> file suitable for streaming to an SB2.  My recommendation is still that
> an AC3 file is pre-converted to WAV, and then to FLAC so that metadata
> can be set.  However, my utility does estimate the output WAV file
> length (correctly, in my tests so far) so it should be easy enough to
> use at run-time (haven't tried this yet... I don't know if the Python
> script will just work if it's in the right binary directory).
> 
> I do need to implement some sort of burst/padding special case that I
> don't quite understand from the specs yet. :)
> 
> Next to do is DTS conversion.  I believe I just need to (1) parse
> enough DTS to get the frame size (and then read the frame), and (2)
> write out the correct preamble (it's different from AC3).  There are
> software DVD players out there which already play DTS streams, so I
> should be able to take some cues from that.
> 
> The problem with pre-converted files is that they're just WAV/FLAC. 
> Although they play just fine on the SB2, they won't work in, say,
> foobar2000, or (probably) WinAmp.
> 
> I'd like to make a recommendation about how to alleviate confusion with
> such files, but I'd like other people's views too.  I see two choices:
> 
> 1. Leave the file names as "whatever.ac3.flac" (or
> "whatever.dts.flac").  Humans can see the embedded file type, but
> WinAmp/fb2k/etc will have problems playing them.  SB2 will just work
> with a digital output, but won't work with analogue outputs (and it
> can't tell the difference between normal FLACs/WAVs and these special
> FLACs/WAVs for the analogue output).
> 
> 2. Use a custom extension for converted files, say
> "whatever.ac3.spdif-wav" and "whatever.ac3.spdif-flac".  (And
> "whatever.dts.spdif-wav", etc.)  No danger of other software thinking,
> because of the file name, that the file is understandable audio.  The
> 'spdif' and 'spdif-flac' extensions are of course open for debate.
> 
> Question for those in the know: can 'convert.conf' be configured to do
> something different depending on whether the player is using digital
> outputs?  In particular, we'd probably want to convert the audio to
> silence for players that can't take it (or possibly get more complex
> and find some utility to decode the file and downmix it!).
> 
> Question about SB1: what's the situation with digital pass-through?  I
> believe there's a firmware bug which causes the data to be corrupted in
> some way (bit inversion?  Byte swapping?).  That would affect these
> converted files; I guess it would also affect a standard WAV.  Is that
> right?  A utility to convert the digital files to an SB1-compensating
> format would be useful (and not too tricky, I think), but does it need
> to be applied to all WAV files or just those with the proposed special
> extension?
> 
> I welcome any ideas or answers.


SB1 has bit-correct output at S/PDIF output except for a sign reversal
of the samples. I get correct passthrough of DTS wav file if the sign
of the samples is inverted.

Steinar


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB2: reduce analog out voltage by 10x?

2005-10-17 Thread sleepysurf

Just wanted to thank the Slim guys for implementing this so fast.  I'm
no techie, but am now feeding my Sunfire Cinema Grand amp directly from
SB2 analog outs, and my system has NEVER sounded so pure.  With this
setup, the native SB2 DAC sounds fantastic.  Can't even imagine going
with an outboard DAC.

Whatever future volume/output voltage tweaks are implemented will be
icing on the cake!


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: DTS file for tests ?

2005-10-17 Thread smst

Update on my conversion utility:

I've written a Python script which can convert an AC3 file to a WAV
file suitable for streaming to an SB2.  My recommendation is still that
an AC3 file is pre-converted to WAV, and then to FLAC so that metadata
can be set.  However, my utility does estimate the output WAV file
length (correctly, in my tests so far) so it should be easy enough to
use at run-time (haven't tried this yet... I don't know if the Python
script will just work if it's in the right binary directory).

I do need to implement some sort of burst/padding special case that I
don't quite understand from the specs yet. :)

Next to do is DTS conversion.  I believe I just need to (1) parse
enough DTS to get the frame size (and then read the frame), and (2)
write out the correct preamble (it's different from AC3).  There are
software DVD players out there which already play DTS streams, so I
should be able to take some cues from that.

The problem with pre-converted files is that they're just WAV/FLAC. 
Although they play just fine on the SB2, they won't work in, say,
foobar2000, or (probably) WinAmp.

I'd like to make a recommendation about how to alleviate confusion with
such files, but I'd like other people's views too.  I see two choices:

1. Leave the file names as "whatever.ac3.flac" (or
"whatever.dts.flac").  Humans can see the embedded file type, but
WinAmp/fb2k/etc will have problems playing them.  SB2 will just work
with a digital output, but won't work with analogue outputs (and it
can't tell the difference between normal FLACs/WAVs and these special
FLACs/WAVs for the analogue output).

2. Use a custom extension for converted files, say
"whatever.ac3.spdif-wav" and "whatever.ac3.spdif-flac".  (And
"whatever.dts.spdif-wav", etc.)  No danger of other software thinking,
because of the file name, that the file is understandable audio.  The
'spdif' and 'spdif-flac' extensions are of course open for debate.

Question for those in the know: can 'convert.conf' be configured to do
something different depending on whether the player is using digital
outputs?  In particular, we'd probably want to convert the audio to
silence for players that can't take it (or possibly get more complex
and find some utility to decode the file and downmix it!).

Question about SB1: what's the situation with digital pass-through?  I
believe there's a firmware bug which causes the data to be corrupted in
some way (bit inversion?  Byte swapping?).  That would affect these
converted files; I guess it would also affect a standard WAV.  Is that
right?  A utility to convert the digital files to an SB1-compensating
format would be useful (and not too tricky, I think), but does it need
to be applied to all WAV files or just those with the proposed special
extension?

I welcome any ideas or answers.


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