[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bel Canto Dac2 + SB3
Ben Diss Wrote: > Phil- Looks like we're neighbors. Didn't even know about you guys. > I'll have to come visit you next week sometime. > > Do we know anything yet about DAC3? > > -Ben Ben...sounds great! I don't have much info on the DAC3 yet asides from the fact that it will have more inputs than the DAC2, including a USB input. -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24206 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?
My SB3 is stock, not even a power supply upgrade, which I considered until I could hear no difference with the stock unit. My files are apple lossless and AIF. My amps are tubed mono OTL's. Extremely fast and detailed. DAC's are Sonic Frontiers (remember them?), the new Bel Canto everyone raves about and a number of others laying around, including a ridiculously expensive Audio Note. I have yet to find someone who can tell the difference between the SB3 and the original CD source. While an audiophile nut, you won't find me spending $500 or interconnects or power cords. Those who claim to hear the difference in the PS upgrades must either have very crappie wiring in their homes or lots of imagination. Ever wonder why audiophile "reviews" never, and I repeat NEVER, use double blind testing? Because if they did they couldn't tell difference between most of the stuff they rave about and advertise. On the other hand the SB3 makes a big difference where it counts (getting rid of stacks of cd's while making it inifinitly easier to find any cd or song in your colletion) and no difference where it should. (sounding exactly like the origingal CD source) The SB3 is a very big deal for the audiophile. Something that really does what is say's it does. I will definitely demo it at the next user group I attend for speaker designers. The Scientific Audiophile -- fredrickj fredrickj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Welborne Labs linear power supply
rajacat Wrote: > Has anybody used this power supply? > http://www.welbornelabs.com/psreg.htm I have been using one with excellent results for a couple months now. I used a 50VA transfomer with the outputs paralled for double the current. It sounds alot better than the off the shelf supplies I have tried. Hope this helps. -- Mike2 Mike2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23179 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Grado or Sennheiser
I have been a headphone junkie for most of my life and the Sennheiser 650s are by-far the best sounding pair I have ever owned. And, yes, I have owned a few Grados. Just thought someone should "lean toward" the Sennheisers. -- kanoot kanoot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4324 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24251 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Grado or Sennheiser
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Grado or Sennheiser
I use a pair of Grado SR80s when I travel. I started with a similarly priced pair from Seinheiser and didn't care for them at all, but I have not made a direct comparison of the higher priced units. The Grado can be a bit uncomfortable for long listening sessions, but I haven't had any problem with the newer/softer earpads that they switched to some time ago... Good luck! -- jonathan.penrose jonathan.penrose's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4570 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24251 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to start
TCM Wrote: > 1. Where do you think I would get the biggest improvement for the least > money? > > 2. If the money wasn't a big concern, what would be the forst thing to > change? > > Maybe what I need is just to move the speakers... (but then I'll have > to fight the luftWAFfe... ;-D) 1. Speaker placement. Get them off of the ground and out of the corners. A stand of about 8-12" (200-300mm) tall would probably work best - get the tweaters to approximately ear level at the listening position. Move them at least 2-3 feet out away from both the front wall and side walls. Play with position and toe in of the speakers until they sound best within your room. Secondly, room treatment may be in order. You have what appears to be a very hard room with plaster walls and hardwood floors, wood furniture. 2. I'm not familiar with the spekers, but the receiver would be the first thing I'd upgrade. Better amplification will improve the sound from even the most inexpensive speaker. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Grado or Sennheiser
nelamvr6 Wrote: > I understand that I will not really know unless I try them, but it's > getting to be nearly impossible to find places to audition headphones. > > Right now I'm leaning toward the Grado's. I have a much lower end pair of Grados (SR80s). They sound great, and I love 'em for it, but they really aren't the most comfortable phones for long listening sessions. I haven't tried the Senns. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24251 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Grado or Sennheiser
I understand that I will not really know unless I try them, but it's getting to be nearly impossible to find places to audition headphones. Right now I'm leaning toward the Grado's. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24251 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to start
opaqueice Wrote: > IMHO, speaker cables don't make the slightest difference, unless you're > upgrading from chicken wire. They are the least important part of the > audio chain, followed by digital cables and then interconnects. On the > other hand room placement is critical... I second the recommendation to > move your speaker out of the corner. If there's a WAF issue, maybe your > money is best spend buying a pair of speakers she would tolerate out in > the open? There are some very stylish speakers out there. I agree with you that room placement is critical, but you and I will have to agree to disagree with respect to speaker cables. Besides which, in this case, TCM may just be using chicken wire. Information such as this could very well help us to help him. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to start
nelamvr6 Wrote: > > TCM, you don't say much about the speaker cables you're using. Could > you elaborate please? IMHO, speaker cables don't make the slightest difference, unless you're upgrading from chicken wire. They are the least important part of the audio chain, followed by digital cables and then interconnects. On the other hand room placement is critical... I second the recommendation to move your speaker out of the corner. If there's a WAF issue, maybe your money is best spend buying a pair of speakers she would tolerate out in the open? There are some very stylish speakers out there. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB mod on not mod, what to expect vs CD player?
95bcwh Wrote: > I have already had my SB3 fully modded (analog + digital + battery power > supply) by RedWineAudio, too late to change for now. But I plan to buy > another unit when SB4 comes out...I will then ask Wayne to mod it for > me. What do you think of the Red Wine Audio mods? There was a thread (over at audiocircle maybe?) a while back comparing Bolder SB mods to RWA which concluded that the RWA mod sounded (slightly) better than the Bolder. Personally I would hesitate to buy a product from someone that markets such things as Bybee "quantum purifiers", as Bolder does, but hey... -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Grado or Sennheiser
I prefer the rs-1's, but as the other person said, they are so different that you really will need to hear them both. Importantly, both need amps to sound their best (and different amps at that -- grado's want current while senn's want voltage). Without an amp, you are throwing away you money. If budget is set, try moving down the line a bit and adding an amp. Also, ask this at head-fi.org as you'll get more answers there. -- drs drs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3536 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24251 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Grado or Sennheiser
nelamvr6 Wrote: > Please help me decide. > > I know there's a price difference, but let's pretend for the purpose of > discussion that money doesn't matter. Which should I get: > > The 'Grado RS 1' > (http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/grado-rs-1.php) > > Or > > The 'Sennheiser HD 650' (http://tinyurl.com/e3h8n) > > Both would be used in a home system. Neither would have the use of a > dedicated headphone amp, at least not for a little while. > > I welcome any and all opinions (concerning this question that is! ;) > ). > > Thanks in advance. I think you're going to have to try them out. I have the Grado SR325 and really like it, but some complain that it is uncomfortable on their ears, and some feel it is a little harsh. (Or perhaps too accurate?) For me, the Sennheiser (probably the previous generation) was a little boomy. But this is clearly a case where your mileage may vary. If you haven't found it already, I found this site www.goodcans.com to have some intelligent reviews. -- EricBergan EricBergan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4746 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24251 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Grado or Sennheiser
Please help me decide. I know there's a price difference, but let's pretend for the purpose of discussion that money doesn't matter. Which should I get: The 'Grado RS 1' (http://www.headphone.com/products/headphones/all-headphones/grado-rs-1.php) Or The 'Sennheiser HD 650' (http://tinyurl.com/e3h8n) Both would be used in a home system. Neither would have the use of a dedicated headphone amp, at least not for a little while. I welcome any and all opinions (concerning this question that is! ;) ). Thanks in advance. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24251 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bel Canto Dac2 + SB3
Lyonesse Wrote: > > Anyone using the Bel Canto Dac2 with the Squeezebox? > I am too using the Bel Canto Dac2 with the Squeezebox 3. Using the optical output from the SB3 to the Dac2. It sounds warm and fluid like. I like it, but I am not the type to constantly change things and compare to anything else. Once I setup the system I keep it that way, so I can't make any comparisons. -- bullethead bullethead's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4803 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24206 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to start
the speaker grilles probably aren't helping... -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to start
davidcotton Wrote: > Stands for speakers that size aren't really necessary imho. A lot of > the people on some of the other hifi forums reccomend getting a pair of > slabs (they can be nice ones)and put them under the speaker. Well my point was get them off the floor and out from that cubby hole. So essentially we are in agreement. TCM, you don't mention what speaker cables you're using. Could you elaborate please? -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to start
Stands for speakers that size aren't really necessary imho. A lot of the people on some of the other hifi forums reccomend getting a pair of slabs (they can be nice ones)and put them under the speaker. -- davidcotton davidcotton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to start
Here's another vote for moving your speakers. A nice set of stands will do wonders and will prolly not set you back much. -- nelamvr6 nelamvr6's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to start
Agree with Ben if you can move the furniture around. But if you can't, try at least moving the speaker forward so that the front plane of the speaker is a couple of inches in front of the furniture...and put some absorbing material (pillow, fiberglass, etc) behind the speaker to reduce the corner loading... -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bel Canto Dac2 + SB3
ezkcdude Wrote: > I hope you put some pics up when you get a hold of one. Let us know what > it sounds like. Of course, I'm sure you were already planning to... I can definitely put some pics up when I get it. But I do try to refrain from making comments on how stuff sounds...obviously, being a dealer makes me biased and an easy flame target, no matter how objective I try to be... -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24206 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to start
When I used a Sony receiver, I got the best sound by setting the tone controls to flat, and turning off digital signal processing/ bass boost etc. A further extension of that idea would be to ditch the Sony and go with a SB-->Power Amp setup. If I were you, room re-arrangement would be at the top of my list :-) -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Where to start
If you can, move the furniture that your equipment is on away from the corner. Pull the speak out of the corner and put it on top of something. When you're able, buy a nice stand for them. This is all free, and will make an immediate improvement to your sound. -Ben -- Ben Diss Ben Diss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Bel Canto Dac2 + SB3
Phil- Looks like we're neighbors. Didn't even know about you guys. I'll have to come visit you next week sometime. Do we know anything yet about DAC3? -Ben -- Ben Diss Ben Diss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24206 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to start
I'm really happy with my SB3, but sometimes the sound isn't really clear and sharp. So I'm dreaming of upgrading the hifi-part of my squeezebox system - amp/dac/speakers/cables... Currently I mostly play flacs ripped with EAC, but I also have som old mp3:s. Slimserver -> wired network -> SB3 -> Sony STR-DE315 -> Genexxa GP 200 [speakers]. Sony STR-DE315: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Rampart/7343/sonyspecs.html http://tinyurl.com/nplls Genexxa GP 200 http://www.genexxa.se/ The cables are nothing special and I use the standard power supply. Since I recently bulit a new house my "toy"-budget isn't that big at the moment so it's going to be a step by step upgrade, not a total change of system. 1. Where do you think I would get the biggest improvement for the least money? 2. If the money wasn't a big concern, what would be the forst thing to change? Maybe what I need is just to move the speakers... (but then I'll have to fight the luftWAFfe... ;-D) +---+ |Filename: sb.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1366| +---+ -- TCM http://www.last.fm/user/ThisCharmingMan/ TCM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=702 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24245 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
