[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - measuring question
inguz;157948 Wrote: > Interesting room. I suspect the right-channel nulls really are the > right wall/window. Are there heavy drapes on that window? > > There are probably some "rear-wall" reflections from the front of the > tv/console. I've played with a similar setup (fireplace, not tv) and > some absorption on those front surfaces made a lot of difference to > upper-mid clarity. (But we were under the influence, sticking cushions > to the wall with velcro at 3am. YMMV). > > Big plants are great. I have two, near the room corners, in big wicker > baskets which I'm planning to stuff with fiberglass. Instant > bass-trap-plus-diffuser. Inguz, thanks for the comments. I didn't label everything properly I guess, but the right opening is not a window, but an open archway to the dining room. The green thing in the front actually IS a fireplace (not TV), and the opening to the rear is another archway to the entryway. I was curious if the fact that the ceiling is arched, and the transition from the wall to ceiling is curved is a good thing or a bad thing. Otherwise, since the room is so hard and pretty sparse, I think I'll play around a bit with absorbtion and maybe make my own bass traps (plants rate extremely high on the WAF...) - maybe a 3AM session to get the creativity flowing! -- ob_kook SB2 --> Axiom passive pre --> Portal Paladin monoblocks --> Dynaudio Contour 1.3 MKII ob_kook's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30031 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in
highdudgeon;157847 Wrote: > > Of course, there is the UC Davis oenology department black cup > test...where in, yes, double-blind tests experienced tasters scored 50% > in distinguishing reds from whites. In another experiment, cheap and > expensive wines were poured into different bottles. In a non-blind > test, the expensive label wines (which were actually cheap) won the > day. This is not a rumor; my brother-in-law went to school there. > You know, I had heard this story (about reds vs. whites) before, but I found it pretty hard to believe - so I tried it. We took two reds and two whites and did a blind taste test. We tried to pick reasonably neutral wines (one of the reds was a Beaujolais, for example) so as to make it as hard as possible. Guess what - the difference was completely obvious. It wasn't ever necessary to taste twice, or taste the others before deciding - we immediately knew in each case from the first taste whether the wine was white or red. Try it yourself - it's just impossible to mistake them (at least for ordinary wines; you could of course make a "red" wine by coloring a white without changing the taste, but I assume that's not what you meant). On the other hand the thing about expensive labels I have no trouble believing - there was an "experiment" like that on a huge scale - the San Francisco wine competition - which clearly demonstrated it. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.
opaqueice;157968 Wrote: > This is (at least) the second time you've announced your permanent > departure from this forum... let's see how long this one lasts. maybe P. will leave for a long time. I kinda hate to say that, I really think all should be able to say what they want but his last post seems so anachronistic,really. I mean, it seems most everyone has settled down, some light hearted humor, a serious proposal about getting to know each others systems and philosophies , no flames, etc. What's to complain about? -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30039 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.
P Floding;157929 Wrote: > T > So, so long, and thank you for the fish! This is (at least) the second time you've announced your permanent departure from this forum... let's see how long this one lasts. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30039 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.
P Floding;157929 Wrote:
> The main problem is really that a few select people have taken upon
> themselves to define what is acceptable thinking, and what is "stupid"
> -hence bullying anyone who is "stupid" enough to have idéas that are
> not confirmant enough for this crowd.
>
> This is just narrowminded mob behaviour, no matter what pretty
> alternative label is put on it ("a bit of a laugh", "humor", etc).
>
> I really don't see this changing as these people see it as both their
> right and perhaps almost duty to police the forum using mob behaviour.
> They shouldn't fool themselves that they promote variation here,
> though. I don't think anyone of these people actually write under their
> own names, BTW.
>
> I decided not to contribute any more as I don't feel the general
> discussion climate here works for an in-depth exchange of ideas. There
> are just too many people who have to try to prove points all the time
> -almost regardless of the relevance of these points. (ABX, anyone?)
>
> So, so long, and thank you for the fish!
you are guilty of all the above, P. Your lack of self perception and
self reflection
is amazing.
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mini SB3 system idea
I been thinking: what if I buy a transporter for my main stereo and reassign the SBs to the bedroom(1) / kitchen(2) what would these compact systems look like? So I moved my SB to the bedroom and did run some tests using three different sets of powered computer speakers: - Cheap $15 Altec Lansing 3 full range (few years old) bearable only at low volumes. - Cheap $15 Harman Kardon 3 full range (few years old) I could not recognize some of the instruments trash - Altec Lansing VS2321 2.1 Speaker $40. These sound quite good (for the price) but somewhat bulky due to the subwoofer third box. The additional problems with these speakers (typical of most PC speakers) are: bright LED and lack the auto power on feature (based on line IN signal from the SB). Being into active speaker DIY I could not stop myself from concocting a DIY solution to my ideal SB3 small system. I come out with these project requirements: - High quality sound (of course). - Auto power on and/or low standby consumption - No LED (thats an easy one) - Decent dynamic power - Good equalization at any volume (ability to enhance the low frequencies at low volume) - Possibly use off the shelf components. - Compact - make it look good - Keep the $ reasonable The result is this: - Speakers configuration: DIY two way stereo compact speakers, bi-amp - $ 75 Amps: 2 x SONIC IMPACT 5066 http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-952 - $54 Mid-Woofer: 2 x DAYTON RS125-4 5" REFERENCE SERIES WOOFER 4 OHM SPL: 91 dB, http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=295-370 - $46 Tweeter: 2 x TANG BAND 28-847SA SHIELDED NEODYMIUM 1 silk dome http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?PartNumber=264-822&raid=46&rak=264-822 - $120 Electronic crossover: DBX 223 stereo 2 way crossover Linkwitz-Riley 24dB/octave - $30 Power Supply 12 volt / 4 amp http://www.powerstream.com/ac-1245.htm - $100 misc. Total: > $500 plus time The two sonic impact PCB, DBX crossover PCB and related power supplies would be housed in a new enclosure. The power can be left always on thanks to the high efficiency of the Tripath. Expected system consumption at rest: 15 - 20W (a little high implement the auto power on feature?) The high efficiency mid woofer and bi-amping configuration will provide an effective power equivalent to 30 real watts per channel on average speakers. The DBX crossover will provide the ability to adjust gains for each driver (sort of a loudness, coarse EQ), and overall gain (to solve the famous SB volume control issue). If the tripath chip is as good as they say this may indeed be an interesting project. -- arge arge's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6155 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30087 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Wanted to Buy: Modded PS for SB3
Powersupply is sold. -- mantis007 mantis007's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=491 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29280 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - measuring question
Interesting room. I suspect the right-channel nulls really are the right wall/window. Are there heavy drapes on that window? There are probably some "rear-wall" reflections from the front of the tv/console. I've played with a similar setup (fireplace, not tv) and some absorption on those front surfaces made a lot of difference to upper-mid clarity. (But we were under the influence, sticking cushions to the wall with velcro at 3am. YMMV). Big plants are great. I have two, near the room corners, in big wicker baskets which I'm planning to stuff with fiberglass. Instant bass-trap-plus-diffuser. -- inguz inguz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30031 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - odd results
I'd be very interested to get a copy of your sweep recordings to analyze. Can you email them (hpyle at cabezal dot com), or up by ftp? ftp.inguzaudio.com user: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pass: inguz Thanks! -- inguz inguz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29927 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;157919 Wrote: > > Was it the RA-1062 you meant? The 1072 seems to be the matching CD > player. > You are right. It's the RA-1062 I was thinking of. Impeller;157919 Wrote: > > Would the amp upgrade really make much difference at this level? > Wouldn't I be better off sticking with the cheaper amp and investing in > better speakers? (I'm only going on what I've heard/read - would > appreciate your thoughts.) > I feel that the RA-1062 is a much better than the RA-0? models. Here's a thread on the subject: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28432 Impeller;157919 Wrote: > > I have listened to the Diamond 9.1s with an RA-04 amp round a friend's > house, and I was impressed. They sounded powerful enough for my front > room (not a very big room) and seemed to be very precise and > controlled. > Powerful and good control. That is typical Rotel; and they are neutral as well. The RA-1062 has that too, and I find it more detailed as well. Impeller;157919 Wrote: > > But as I said, I'll have to listen to some others. Any particular > recommendations around the £250 mark or below? What Hi-Fi seem to like > the Monitor Audio Bronze BR2 speakers which are only £50 more than the > 9.1s. If you can afford it, you should reach higher on the speakers, £300-£500. -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.
atkinsonrr;157526 Wrote:
> A while ago, P.Floding started a thread called something like "Moderator
> where are you?". In it, he makes the following point:
> "The biggest problem is the SNR (signal-noise ratio). It is really easy
> to do wisecracking and post the 50th variation on the same old joke and
> get a number of your buddies to chime in with their own variations.
> Soon you have 10 postings like that for every one serious posting. How
> is anyone going to take the time to read through all this to extract
> any useful information?
> On top of that, when all the wisecracking has a theme that says that
> audiophiles are idiots (more or less), how friendly will that feel for
> anyone coming here with their questions?"
>
> Unfortunately, the thread in which P posted the above went down the
> drain in exactly the same way that P was pointing out. As a result, I
> feel the need to start this thread just to say I agree with P on the
> problem and on the effect.
>
> I cannot say what the answer is, and I am not proposing censoring
> points of view.
>
> I can say posting in this forum feels like trying to have a friendly
> game in a playground where a handful of self-congratulating bullies
> have taken over the "turf". I choose not to offer my questions,
> thoughts or insights much in this forum. Not because I'm insecure in
> my ability to take care of myself on the playground and not because I
> am insecure in my beliefs and feelings. I choose not to participate
> because I simply dont feel it offers me enough benefit for the cost in
> time or emotional energy I would expend.
>
> I think the only people who would keep coming back to such a playground
> are those that feel they must prove something to the bullies. Indeed,
> for this reason, it seems that without intervention, this forum is
> fated to a downward spiral into a lot of heat and very little light.
The main problem is really that a few select people have taken upon
themselves to define what is acceptable thinking, and what is "stupid"
-hence bullying anyone who is "stupid" enough to have idéas that are
not confirmant enough for this crowd.
This is just narrowminded mob behaviour, no matter what pretty
alternative label is put on it ("a bit of laugh", "humor", etc).
I really don't see this changing as these people see it as both their
right and perhaps almost duty to police the forum using mob behaviour.
They shouldn't fool themselves that they promote variation here,
though. I don't think anyone of these people actually write under their
own names, BTW.
I decided not to contribute any more as I don't feel the general
discussion climate here works for an in-depth exchange of ideas. There
are just too many people who have to try to prove points all the time
-almost regardless of the relevance of these points. (ABX, anyone?)
So, so long, and thank you for the fish!
--
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FS: Bolder modded Elpac
I'm selling my Bolder modded Elpac to upgrade to the bigger PS. I paid $40 for the Elpac & $85 for the mod (Wayne's now charging $100 for the mod). I'm asking $110 plus shipping. I also have a wireless Squeezebox(the original model) that I'm going to list on ebay as soon as I receieve my new SB3. I'd rather sell it here. Comes with the SB, remote & wall wart, $175. Contact me if you're interested. -- ecruz ecruz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4048 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30083 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Digital room correction on Linux
I also would like to chime in with a request for Mac support for Inguz room correction. Once ported to Linux, I hope it wouldn't be be too difficult to bring it to Mac OSX. Are there any other DRC developments that could work on Mac OSX? Thanks! -- Robert57 Robert57's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25381 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Cheaper amp, better speakers, cheaper amp, better speakers. The differences between amps is nuance compared to the differences between speakers and even the same speakers differently positioned within a room. You've got a respectable source; get the best speakers you can; think about optimizing your system when you budget recovers. Impeller;157919 Wrote: > In that case, I must have asked a really obvious question. :) > > > Was it the RA-1062 you meant? The 1072 seems to be the matching CD > player. > > Would the amp upgrade really make much difference at this level? > Wouldn't I be better off sticking with the cheaper amp and investing in > better speakers? (I'm only going on what I've heard/read - would > appreciate your thoughts.) > > Many thanks for the other advice - I shall have to invest some time > listening in shops. I think Quad ESLs are out of the question for now, > though. (They're those massive things, aren't they? Very expensive I > expect. I heard a pair at the What HiFi/Best of Stuff show recently > whilst they had Leftfield playing and they sounded awesome - so full of > natural sound.) > > I have listened to the Diamond 9.1s with an RA-04 amp round a friend's > house, and I was impressed. They sounded powerful enough for my front > room (not a very big room) and seemed to be very precise and > controlled. But as I said, I'll have to listen to some others. Any > particular recommendations around the £250 mark or below? -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Wanted to Buy: Modded PS for SB3
Is the Mauimods PS still available or did you sell it? Is it plug and play with Squeezebox 3? -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29280 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
tomsi42;157840 Wrote: > Staying with Rotel, I can recommend the Rotel RA-1072 amplifier. Was it the RA-1062 you meant? The 1072 seems to be the matching CD player. Would the amp upgrade really make much difference at this level? Wouldn't I be better off sticking with the cheaper amp and investing in better speakers? (I'm only going on what I've heard/read - would appreciate your thoughts.) Many thanks for the other advice - I shall have to invest some time listening in shops. I think Quad ESLs are out of the question for now, though. (They're those massive things, aren't they? Very expensive I expect. I heard a pair at the What HiFi/Best of Stuff show recently whilst they had Leftfield playing and they sounded awesome - so full of natural sound.) I have listened to the Diamond 9.1s with an RA-04 amp round a friend's house, and I was impressed. They sounded powerful enough for my front room (not a very big room) and seemed to be very precise and controlled. But as I said, I'll have to listen to some others. Any particular recommendations around the £250 mark or below? -- Impeller Impeller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
I think this thread may have just broken the record for "longest thread without any disagreement" on this forum... ;) Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
I ordered it shortly after the pre-order started, but hedged my bets on the marketing being over enthusiastic and had it shipped directly to Bolder Cables for Wayne to modify it. Now to avoid getting jumped on by my fellow members my expectations are high, I want to replace my GNSC 'Statement' Wadia 861se with the Transporter as I have ripped my CD collection and don't envision using a CD player. At present I use one of Patrick Dixon's SB+ squeezeboxes feeding the DAC section of the 861se and it's very good but the SB+ lacks a digital input which I need for my AV processor. As an aside, I'll never know for sure as I never got to hear the standard Transporter but from looking at the circuit topology of the Transporter and SB+ my 'gut' feeling is that the SB+ has the better performance of the two. Regards Gary -- GaryG GaryG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
GaryG;157897 Wrote: > > What it boils down to is I'm too honest for my own good, I ordered my > transporter on the basis of the marketing and am disappointed to read > about it's relative ranking. But "reading" isn't "hearing" and discerning for yourself what you prefer. This is especially true in audiophilia: if it were as simple as making a "This is the best speaker, this is the best amp, this is the best DAC, etc" list that was Universally Agreed On, all the Audio forums and magazines would serve no purpose. Maybe an annual "this is the cream of the crop" list and ignore everything else. People have differing tastes and ears. Use audiophile reviews sparingly and trust yourself and your own ears more. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
GaryG;157897 Wrote: > Mark > > What it boils down to is I'm too honest for my own good, I ordered my > transporter on the basis of the marketing and am disappointed to read > about it's relative ranking. > > Regards > Gary Has it arrived yet? If not, ignore the relative ranking bit for now. When you have had it in your system for a few weeks, then it's time to comment/rank/rave/brag/swear. -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 + Lavry DA10 set up questions
It's obvious, but you never know: Did you make sure the digital output of the SB3 is activated at all? (See Player settings!) Tobi. -- topa topa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7118 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29831 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
Mark What it boils down to is I'm too honest for my own good, I ordered my transporter on the basis of the marketing and am disappointed to read about it's relative ranking. Regards Gary -- GaryG GaryG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
One of the definitions for extoic is: Intriguingly unusual or different; although in the case of Slim Device's marketing my interpretation of that statement was to imply 'the best', in other words the Transporter can rub shoulders with the best CD players. Regards Gary -- GaryG GaryG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe Cleve;157134 Wrote: > The current version of my Home Theatre/Audio system. From top to > bottom > > SB3 > McIntosh Mc2205 > McIntosh MX-132 > McIntosh MC7100 > Belkin PURE AV power center > McIntosh MAC4100 > Oppo DVD player > Denon DRM-3 cassette deck > > > > Speakers - left, center, and right - Klipsch Epic CF-4s > > Not shown in the photo - Klipsch Epic CF-3s - Left and right surround. Hmmm, you didn't mention the Northern, Muskie or Large Mouth Bass as part of your setup? Does the Bass provide additional Bass? -- Jetlag Jetlag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1012 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
GaryG;157879 Wrote: > Mark, take a look at the Slim Devices home page, you'll find the > following quote: > > > Maybe we have different expectations on the meaning of exotic but to me > the Denon 5910 isn't exotic, flagship maybe, but exotic, no. Well yeah, but that's kind of a marketing statement. They couldn't possibly have compared it to every single CD player on the market (or ever made, for that matter). And I'm sure those $10K CD transports I've heard about have something to them. If they didn't beat a device costing 1/5 as much (which includes a high-end DAC, mind you) they'd have some explaining to do. It's also all relative, of course. It's not like that reviewer's opinion is the last word on the Denon or the Transporter for that matter. In fact being compared favourably against a player costing nearly twice as much is a high compliment. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe Here is a pic of my system with SB3 and Peter Daniel Non-OS dac. http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1162774336.jpg http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/i/f/1160407954.jpg I've really enjoyed the non-os dac and my sb3. Vinyl still sounds quite a bit better... but now my digital is at a more comparable level. Nate -- AudioPhil AudioPhil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4192 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - odd results
rbl wrote: > - If I put the 988s way into the room then I did get a better frequency > plot, but sadly it is completely unrealistic to use them there. Sadly, most speakers sound much better out in the room, and that tends to have a terrible, if not totally unacceptable WAF. Quads, Maggies, etc have to be six feet or so from the back wall. They (and other dipoles) are not nearly as sensitive to side walls, floor and ceiling as normal box speakers, but you can't get the imaging unless they are out. And glorious imaging is what those speakers can deliver. > - there appears to be very little correction to take out individual > peaks and troughs. Just quite a smooth correction profile. Depending on your room dimentions, it can be very hard, if not impossible to correct it with EQ. > - and most important, why do all except No Correction sound terrible!? Sorry, can't help there. I've always wanted a number of speakers that have low to zero WAF, I'd have to buy a new house with a room just for stereo, and that isn't going to happen. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 + Lavry DA10 set up questions
I have switched the jumpers between pin 2 hot and pin 3 hot and still no results. I also do not get a sound out of the headphone jack with any of these configurations. I am beginning to think that it is my connection between the SB3 and the Lavry DA10. I am curious what cables others have used in this set-up. I would like to use the SP3 spdif (output) to Lavry AES (input)but I am unclear where I can get such a cable. Any suggested would be welcome. -- tjw tjw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29831 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - odd results
Spent a few hours over the weekend and got the following results ROOM PLACEMENT - done with just one ESL 988 - I moved it around to all obvious places and sure the response changed, but not really for the better. Just different peaks and troughs. Top to bottom is still about 28dB, and much the same as in my first post on this thread. - placed a load of big heavy sofa cushions against the rear of the speaker and this helped a little, but nothing dramatic. Sound wasn't obviously better. - If I put the 988s way into the room then I did get a better frequency plot, but sadly it is completely unrealistic to use them there. INGUZ's DRC I very carefully carried out more sweeps at 1am and found the following, and used several DRC files: - the only setting that is listenable to is No Correction, Flatness=10. It actually sounds a lot better, considering I find my 988s a little flat and boring compared to say my old ESL 57s (but they can still can sound so much better than a box speaker)! From memory the tonal balance is closer to my ESL57s, but this is an awful lot of shifting of tonal balance considering this is a very expensive HiFi! I would go back to my ESL 57s but frankly their querks have got the better of me. - I worked with many .drc files that come as standard, I downloaded, or people suggested in this forum. Frankly they all sound similar but pretty bad. Oddly when using normal.drc downloaded from http://www.inguzaudio.com/Tools the two channels sounded quite different. Maybe something went wrong here, but it did happen with 2 sets of sweep files. - I measured the filters by plugging the SB3 straight into my PC via the US122L. The yellow plot and purple plots are No Correction & soft.drc respectively. No Correction is adding a lot of bass and treble. I have no idea what soft.drc is trying to do! Both with flatness=10. NB - I repeated this with new sweeps and got identical results. Which raises a couple of questions - why would the No Correction sound ok but the others sound terrible? If No Correction is good then the sweeps must be ok? I did take a lot of care over the sweeps to avoid clipping etc. - there appears to be very little correction to take out individual peaks and troughs. Just quite a smooth correction profile. - and most important, why do all except No Correction sound terrible!? Any help is most gratefully received! +---+ |Filename: rta1.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2038| +---+ -- rbl rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29927 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
Why not? Because of the brand name? GaryG;157879 Wrote: > Mark, take a look at the Slim Devices home page, you'll find the > following quote: > > > Maybe we have different expectations on the meaning of exotic but to me > the Denon 5910 isn't exotic, flagship maybe, but exotic, no. > > Regards > Gary -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
Mark Lanctot;157782 Wrote: > The Denon 5910 retails for $3800, if we're going for the "more $$$ = > better" argument. It's their flagship player. Mark, take a look at the Slim Devices home page, you'll find the following quote: > Transporter's sound quality surpasses even the most exotic compact disc > players. Maybe we have different expectations on the meaning of exotic but to me the Denon 5910 isn't exotic, flagship maybe, but exotic, no. Regards Gary -- GaryG GaryG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
I absolutely concur. tomsi42;157840 Wrote: > I think the transport would be overkill for that system. If I were in > your position, I would use the price difference between the SB3 and > the transporter in better amplifier and speakers. Staying with Rotel, I > can recommend the Rotel RA-1072 amplifier. > There are many good speaker to choose from. Find a shop that can help > you. > > Consider buying a linear powersupply for the SB3. I have found that it > improved the sound here. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;157835 Wrote: > I'm no audiophile (yet) Think twice boy! Joining the dark side may end your well sorted lifestyle you may be in atm. Me thinks destroyed more synapses from finding the holy audio grail than from excessive drinking! One recommendation though is you really take your time in finding speakers that fit your taste and enviroment in endless odyssays thru shops presenting nice setups. Best wishes! -- Wombat Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Gosh what agreement, and I shall add to it. The SB3 is fine to drive a £2k system. I would get the SB3, plus an amp and speakers that use up only 75% of your budget. Live with it for a month, and tweak (PSU, DAC, better cables etc) only if you actually really want much better sounds. Get into speaker placement, contact cleaning and such like before spending huge sums on equipment. If you find it's good enough, have a splurge on Amazon. A slightly more radical bit of advice is to get stuff from ebay. A modern Chinese 40W valve amp plus a pair of Quad ESLs would be utterly nutty, but threaten the high end, which a pair of Wharfedales will never do. And if you don't like them, you can sell them at little or no loss. This advice only applies if you truly want to join us audio nutters though :) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Okay, thanks for saving me from myself. It's just that the 'free Squeezebox with a Transporter' promotion caught my eye! If you have any suggestions for the power supply and external DAC I'd appreciate hearing them. Thanks again. Edit: I see you've already put some forward, although those terms don't mean a lot to me at the moment - I'll search around for info soon. empty99;157843 Wrote: > > SB3>MFA3.24DAC>Passive Pot>2Nakamichi PA7s>B&W802N>Nice! -- Impeller Impeller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in
Actually, I'm kind of into wine (it helps that my father-in-law runs a highly regarded winery) and definitely into single malts. In my experience, while novices couldn't identify specifically what it was that they *liked* about a particular drink, they could always pick out the "better" one from the lesser one. Of course, there is the UC Davis oenology department black cup test...where in, yes, double-blind tests experienced tasters scored 50% in distinguishing reds from whites. In another experiment, cheap and expensive wines were poured into different bottles. In a non-blind test, the expensive label wines (which were actually cheap) won the day. This is not a rumor; my brother-in-law went to school there. When it comes to audio, non-audiophile friends are often only mildly interested, if that much, in my systems. However, they could easily discern the difference between speakers, between movements in speaker position, DACs, etc. In a way, then, one could argue that testing by disinterested parties, while not conclusive, could be very interesting and could even help keep the community honest -- because these people don't come at the project with preconceptions. If you get trained musicians to do it, specifically, it would get very interesting. Why? Because these are people with far more ear training than any non-musician, and that includes audiophiles (quick: how many of you are able to identify and describe subtle key changes? Or perhaps tune a guitar or violin by ear?). Anyway, I digress. The point is that there is a great deal of snobbery and exclusivity in the audiophile community and that is not necessarily a good thing. Someone with a highly trained ear will outclass a non-musical audiophile any day of the week. PS, many, many, many excellent wines are sweet, fruity, and full-bodied. Many interesting and very fine cabernets (which are a rather commonplace wine and hardly the most interesting thing) are fruity. Tannic wines are a bit of a more tending toward unpleasant and many "dry" wines fall into that trap. rajacat;157808 Wrote: > I suspect that many people couldn't identify the various scotches in > your test. Indeed, the same could be said for the tasting of fine > wines, if fact, many prefer a cheap sweet wine to the best dry > Cabernet's. > > It follows that the appreciation of high end audio gear might be futile > for those whose ears might not be sensitive to the subtle nuances that > the best gear reveals. For example, not everyone can distinguish the > fine differences that are evident with tube rolling or changing > interconnects or etc.,etc. For many a boom box is all that is needed. > > Raja -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
tomsi42;157840 Wrote: > I think the transport would be overkill for that system. If I were in > your position, I would use the price difference between the SB3 and > the transporter in better amplifier and speakers. Staying with Rotel, I > can recommend the Rotel RA-1072 amplifier. > There are many good speaker to choose from. Find a shop that can help > you. > > Consider buying a linear powersupply for the SB3. I have found that it > improved the sound here. I agree. For the price differnce you could get a squeezebox, linear power supply, a external dac and still have a sizable amount of money left to buy better speakers which would most likely give you alot more improvement then th transporter alone. -- happy happy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8253 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;157835 Wrote: > I'm hoping to purchase my first 'real' hifi equipment, which will be > something like this: > > Rotel RA05 amplifier > Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 speakers > Reasonably priced speaker stands > > Is it likely I'll hear a difference between the Squeezebox and the > Transporter with a budget system like that? I'm no audiophile (yet), > but I like to think I appreciate good sound. > > Thanks. Consider the price differences of SB3 and TP for your "first" HIFI system, I would say why not starting out with SB3, play around with room acoustic, speaker placement etc...basically dialing everything in nicely, then, only then, if you are not happy w/ the sounds or merely curious as to how much better the TP sounds, go ahead and upgrade to it, move the SB3 to the bedroom or rec room. It's a win win situation! I really meant to say that the improvement is smaller than the cost would imply for the TP. SB3>MFA3.24DAC>Passive Pot>2Nakamichi PA7s>B&W802N>Nice! -- empty99 empty99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3488 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;157835 Wrote: > I'm hoping to purchase my first 'real' hifi equipment, which will be > something like this: > > Rotel RA05 amplifier > Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 speakers > Reasonably priced speaker stands > > Is it likely I'll hear a difference between the Squeezebox and the > Transporter with a budget system like that? I'm no audiophile (yet), > but I like to think I appreciate good sound. > > Thanks. I think the transport would be overkill for that system. If I were in your position, I would use the price difference between the SB3 and the transporter in better amplifier and speakers. Staying with Rotel, I can recommend the Rotel RA-1072 amplifier. There are many good speaker to choose from. Find a shop that can help you. Consider buying a linear powersupply for the SB3. I have found that it improved the sound here. -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in
tomsi42;157804 Wrote: > Lucky Guy ;) If I remember correctly, it is Jameson that is the > recommended Whiskey for Irish Coffee. And it is quite drinkable on its > own as well. My personal favorite Irish whiskey is Bushmills Malt - > straight. Yes, I got the Jameson as it is the recommended one for the Irish coffee. I did go through some whiskey review sites, since I am not into drinking hard stuff. The only brand I know from childhood days is JW. Re: Skin effect. Yes, it does not seem plausible (I have a CS/EE degree). But the funny thing. Audio sounds good only when so many things are addressed. Ultimately, it is difficult to tell which one made a difference. Audioquest have always been touting their 'polished' surface wires. Many say, the smooth surface, just reduces the oxidation, causing bad dielectric creation at the conductor/insulation boundaries. So my take is, we need a real scientific investigation into all these, but I am doubtful it will be conclusive. Meanwhile, I do all the 'tweaks' which even has a semblance of credibility, as long as it does not cost me a fortune. My SB3 seems to have improved over the last two months. Also, I feel switching off the display during playback makes a difference. But I cannot substantiate this. -- SoftwireEngineer SoftwireEngineer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
I'm hoping to purchase my first 'real' hifi equipment, which will be something like this: Rotel RA05 amplifier Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 speakers Reasonably priced speaker stands Is it likely I'll hear a difference between the Squeezebox and the Transporter with a budget system like that? I'm no audiophile (yet), but I like to think I appreciate good sound. Thanks. -- Impeller Impeller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.
tomjtx;157731 Wrote: > we have to make sure the audiophile is centered in front of us in an > equilateral triangle so that our greeting is in stereo And the objectivists and subjectivists, We'd all be there But oh the sound--it'd be so dynamic! It would make us so electrostatic! That none of us would care! -- atkinsonrr Transporter, Quicksilver V4 Monos, Vandersteen Model 5A speakers. SB3, Quad Tube Pre-Amp, Tube Monos, Quad ESLs. Homemade Tripath Digital amps, Carver ALS (original) Speakers with Outboard Crossovers. atkinsonrr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7214 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30039 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in
rajacat;157808 Wrote: > I suspect that many people couldn't identify the various scotches in > your test. Indeed, the same could be said for the tasting of fine > wines, if fact, many prefer a cheap sweet wine to the best dry > Cabernet's. > > It follows that the appreciation of high end audio gear might be futile > for those whose ears might not be sensitive to the subtle nuances that > the best gear reveals. For example, not everyone can distinguish the > fine differences that are evident with tube rolling or changing > interconnects or etc.,etc. For many a boom box is all that is needed. > > Raja The long held theory with wines and spirits etc., is that after you've had one or two, your taste buds are numbed in some way. Taste being one of the senses, is it not possible that hearing works in a similar way? Your ears getting tuned to one system and then (as you would postulate) unlike the taste buds, are able to instantaneously adjust to the next sound? You think the sense of hearing has zero time lag? I don't know, but I doubt it. Are ears not subject to 'sound retention or sound effect delay', in the same way as your sense of taste? I play golf, and after a couple of holes it's amazing how my sight 'tunes in' to long distances. dan -- chinablues chinablues's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
acm- If you're interested in upgrading your Transporter or Meridian G68, Mauimods.com (Aberdeen)is the one to contact. It would be interesting to compare an upgraded Transporter to a aplhifi.com upgraded Denon 5910. -- jhm731 jhm731's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in
opaqueice;157798 Wrote: > Having quite a few of both single malt scotches and skeptical friends, I > was once the subject of a blind taste test. My friend picked four > scotches from my collection and then tested me to see if I could > identify them blind. I was 4/4, which considering she had randomly > picked four out of about twenty isn't too bad. > > In my mind I can't help comparing that to John Atkinson failing to > differentiate between - let alone identify - two supposedly very > different amplifiers. But I'm afraid I'm going to start another minor > war if I go that way :-). I suspect that many people couldn't identify the various scotches in your test. Indeed, the same could be said for the tasting of fine wines, if fact, many prefer a cheap sweet wine to the best dry Cabernet's. It follows that the appreciation of high end audio gear might be futile for those whose ears might not be sensitive to the subtle nuances that the best gear reveals. For example, not everyone can distinguish the fine differences that are evident with tube rolling or changing interconnects or etc.,etc. For many a boom box is all that is needed. Raja -- rajacat rajacat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in
It's past midnight here & I'm down to the old fallback, JW Black Label (from my home town). But get back on track guys, no one's taken my ratio of speed of sound in air to speed of electrons in copper (1/874635) to task yet. -- chinablues chinablues's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in
SoftwireEngineer;157743 Wrote: > What a coincidence, I just got a Jameson for the Irish coffee. I did not > like the Bacardi Gold with my rum cake and did not like it. So I thought > a few bucks more for the Jameson is worth it. I did not try the stuff > directly. But my sniff test and the irish cream taste shows the Jameson > is very smooth. > BTW, you cannot be an audiophile doing LUI (listening Under Influence). > But it helps to make you a musicophile, I guess :-) ) Lucky Guy ;) If I remember correctly, it is Jameson that is the recommended Whiskey for Irish Coffee. And it is quite drinkable on its own as well. My personal favorite Irish whiskey is Bushmills Malt - straight. I can agree on your comment on LUI. Although I know of people who swear to a glass of redwine before serious listening. For me a perfect listening evening would be getting some friends over, do some serious listening/testing (new equipment), eat some good food and then enter the LUI (musicophile) stage. Usually ends up with bad hangover the next day though ;) -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in
chinablues;157150 Wrote: > The real question is, does the drinking and savouring of 18 year old > double distilled malt whisky versus the common or garden 12 year old, > make a subtle difference to my perception of the sound? It should make > me more mellow I'd assume. Why else would I pay for expensive Scotch? > I paid more, I think it's better, therefore it is better! I'll do some > tests this weekend & let you know. Cheers & have a good weekend. Having quite a few of both single malt scotches and skeptical friends, I was once the subject of a blind taste test. My friend picked four scotches from my collection and then tested me to see if I could identify them blind. I was 4/4, which considering she had randomly picked four out of about twenty isn't too bad. In my mind I can't help comparing that to John Atkinson failing to differentiate between - let alone identify - two supposedly very different amplifiers. But I'm afraid I'm going to start another minor war if I go that way :-). -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.
A classic cartoon I saw many years ago had Ghengis Khan sitting slouched over a pile of rugs outside his tent. Looking kind of rough after a hard night and in no fit shape to do any more raping looting or pillaging. Facing him was a whole bunch of Mongols, spears and bows at the ready with the Sergeant-at-Arms entreating Ghengis to get on his feet. "Oh, come on Ghengis, we just need one more to make a horde" -- chinablues chinablues's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30039 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Room Correction Hope for Mac?
LejfK;157737 Wrote: > Vote three Make that four. -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29705 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
GaryG;157769 Wrote: > Given that ACM reported that his stock Denon 5910 was better than the > Transporter I'm not sure the updated list looks so impressive (assuming > of course that the Meitner is better than the Denon). > The Denon 5910 retails for $3800, if we're going for the "more $$$ = better" argument. It's their flagship player. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
atkinsonrr;157716 Wrote: > It is actually better at sorting out complex music, esp. low level > details during loud passages. This is proving more and more true. I'm starting to find new details of small little rhythms, sounds, ticks etc. in music I've heard many times before. Often they are very subtle, but there are times when they are so unsubtle I'm wondering if I'm listening to the same version of the song. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter review
atkinsonrr;157724 Wrote: > > atkinsonrr;157716 Wrote: > > Do I dare entertain the thought that this indicates a budding consensus > > on the relative placement of Transporter? Just taking into account > > these two 'direct-comparison' reviews (the only ones I've seen), a > > ranking would shape up like this: > > Meitner > > Transporter > > Wadia > > (With the understanding that the placement of Wadia might change if a > > most-recent version was compared.) > > > > I'd say that's very very cool terrritory to be in!!> > > > Given that ACM reported that his stock Denon 5910 was better than the > Transporter I'm not sure the updated list looks so impressive > (assuming of course that the Meitner is better than the Denon). > > Meitner > Denon 5910 > Transporter > Wadia > > Regards > Gary -- GaryG GaryG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2423 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29450 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: There must be a better way for this forum to operate.
I like the idea, as long as I can make jokes. :-) Back to the drawing board, then..although they did always say that the 12 step could work miracles... (I know, I know! Cheap shot. Just couldn't resist!) -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30039 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in
SoftwireEngineer;157743 Wrote: > What a coincidence, I just got a Jameson for the Irish coffee. Many years ago a friend (lady) came out to visit us in Singapore. She spent the better part of 45 minutes going over the whisky on display at Heathrow. After due consideration, she bought this bottle of 'Scotch'. Jameson! Holy Crow, OK for the coffee and for mixing with coke, but not quite the real McCoy! -- chinablues chinablues's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: TP changes with break in
tomsi42;157220 Wrote: > Now, that is a test I can relate to. Unfortunately, the only whiskey I > have at the moment is a cheap Irish one that is barely usable in an > Irish coffee! What a coincidence, I just got a Jameson for the Irish coffee. I did not like the Bacardi Gold with my rum cake and did not like it. So I thought a few bucks more for the Jameson is worth it. I did not try the stuff directly. But my sniff test and the irish cream taste shows the Jameson is very smooth. BTW, you cannot be an audiophile doing LUI (listening Under Influence). But it helps to make you a musicophile, I guess :-) ) -- SoftwireEngineer SoftwireEngineer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Inguz DRC - measuring question
inguz;157513 Wrote: > Those graphs look great. They're not hitting digital-clipping. (For a > more "realistic" look, try click the drop-down arrow beside the > filename, and select "Waveform (dB)" instead of "Waveform"; the default > scale is linear) > > Some interesting asymmetry, with the mid-region nulls in the right > channel but not the left. Is there a wall on the right? (Room > treatment there would probably make a difference). > Inguz, here is the layout of my room to scale and with some key dimensions. Does it answer your question about the right wall? Some notes that are not apparent: * speakers are on stands and the height just clears both the sofa and the chair (and of course all the tables). * The side table against the right wall is a very simple, open, two shelf affair with the amps on the bottom shelf and a vase and the SB on the upper. * The ceilings are about 102" along the vertical edges and slope up to 130" (about 11 feet) down the center. rounded, sloped corners as well. * floor is hardwood with an area rug (1940 original parquet, so no chance of getting more of it covered...) *plant is a big 7 ft palm that seems to make a difference where it is in terms of acoustic effect. Looking at the actual measurements, I wonder if I ought to widen the speakers a tad? I was going for a slightly elongated triangle and at the same time wanted to avoid the furniture (even though as noted, the stands bring the bottom of the speakers just to the height of the arms of the sofa and chair). Any suggestions welcome! (Please be objective though. or semi subjective. just as long as no one insults my mother.) Kook -- ob_kook SB2 --> Axiom passive pre --> Portal Paladin monoblocks --> Dynaudio Contour 1.3 MKII ob_kook's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30031 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
