[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?
Patrick Dixon;162604 Wrote: > I think you should definitely put that at the top of every post where > you say that there is no (or an insignificant) difference between > transports and DACs! > > It just goes to show how differently people listen to and hear music, > and how unwise it is (IMO) to take advice from people re sound quality > on internet fora. Out of curiosity, have you done a blind test between lossless and good-quality lossy music? I'd've sworn that I could tell 192kbps MP3 from FLAC, but using the ABX Comparator in Foobar (with MP3s encoded with LAME v2, which is about 190kbps), I was guessing. -- mkozlows mkozlows's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30594 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?
Patrick, 1. That's just plain weird, but I know you don't like me, that you resentment for whatever silly reason, and that you find that it makes you feel good to flame me from time to time. I have over 300gb in Apple Lossless. Apple Lossless is not a bad thing. It is, well, lossless. It is -- really -- as good as anything else. However, I am sure that, with fairy dust and a few incantations, you can make far superior scans. I'm also sure you've taken great measures to correct you room and system. 2. No one has to take my advice on a damned thing and I'm certainly to last to insist on it. If you don't like what I have to say (which includes the obversation that the Transporter looks a lot better than your gadget) then bloody well ignore it. Get it? Ignore it. I know some people find that hard to do...but it is worth a try. Certainly more worthwhile than turning a sort-of interesting advice and recommendation thread and turning it into a mudslinging zone. You're just a great chap. Patrick Dixon;162604 Wrote: > I think you should definitely put that at the top of every post where > you say that there is no (or an insignificant) difference between > transports and DACs! > > It just goes to show how differently people listen to and hear music, > and how unwise it is (IMO) to take advice from people re sound quality > on internet fora. -- highdudgeon Relax. It's about the music. highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30594 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Portable hi-fi
Limited to only my experience I'm using the iAudio5 XL with Ety ER4S playing FLAC using the iAudio software. The sound is excellent for a portable setup. I also have the Rio Karma and it too is a very good device if you can find one on ebay. My next things to try are rockbox and a headphone amp. -- DanT DanT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30642 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise Floor on SqueezeBox 3 - Normal?
Hi artsrc, Here's my 02, no guarantees though! The SB stock power supply is a switching PS. Supplies of this type can put out RF and other noise which can be picked up and amplified by other components. Others have commented on the noise the SB supply emits, even when not connected to SB. Unplug the PS from the wall while listening to the noise if possible to see if this is what you're hearing. If so, try a linear power supply. You can find a thread about it around here somewhere ;) The analog output section of SB is not bad, but you might like to try SB > DAC > headphone amp or even the built in headphone amp in a good DAC if you're looking for perfection. The SB analog line outs are affected by noise from the flourescent display, especially the right channel, so the headphone out might be affected by that too. Try dimming the display to "off" while listening to eliminate it as the source of your noise. Playing SB with volume at max like you're already doing makes it hard to hear the display noise so that's probably not the problem. Maybe it's louder on headphone out? Is your external volume control powered? Could it be a ground loop somewhere? Good luck. Rich -- richidoo richidoo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3097 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30645 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise Floor on SqueezeBox 3 - Normal?
tomjtx;162751 Wrote: > Some people think the sock wall wart generates a lot of noise. Plug it > into a power conditioner and you should reduce the noise and inprove > the sound. > For more improvement buy a linear regulated power supply, perhaps > modded by Bolder Cable if your in the U.S. I added one of those ferrite thingies to the stock power supply cord. Not sure if it does anything, and it may be along the lines of wearing an aluminum foil pyramid on my head. -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30645 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise Floor on SqueezeBox 3 - Normal?
For serious listening an external headphone amp is recommended. The RCA outputs are very good, but the internal headphone amplifier chip which feeds the 1/8" jack is not well suited for sensitive phones - you will hear its noise floor. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30645 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Portable hi-fi
Evanus;162735 Wrote: > Hi. I'm curious, do any of you know of any portable (pocket) stereo > player that can yield really precise and good sound? I'm thinking of a > device that supports FLAC and can make the most out of a studio-class > headset. I like my Zen Sleek and Shure e2c(these are not the ones I > have in mind, mind you), but listening to Mozart's Requiem on it makes > me a bit sad. Go to headphone.com I have an Ipod running into the Total Airhead portable headphone amp into etymotic4's using apple lossless files (ALAC) and the sound is very, very good. The Ety's are canal phones and give 25db of isolation so they are GREAT on a plane. The ety's at 300.00 or so are better to my ear than the 500.00 shure's Headphone.com also makes a carrying case for this rig. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30642 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Noise Floor on SqueezeBox 3 - Normal?
artsrc;162747 Wrote: > Is a high noise floor typical for an SB3 or is there something wrong > with my particular one? > > I have a SqueezeBox3. > > With efficient headphones, I have Shure e4c's, there is quite a bit of > noise. > With less efficient headphones (some kind of sony's), this is much > reduced. > > So to listen with my Shures I have a separate volume control I connect > in series with the phones, which I turn down, to reduce the noise, then > I turn the SB up. > > The noise is there even if I turn the device off with the power > button, but it is absent if I disconnect the SB from the wall. > > Has anyone else noticed, or not noticed the same thing? > > > Thanks Some people think the sock wall wart generates a lot of noise. Plug it into a power conditioner and you should reduce the noise and inprove the sound. For more improvement buy a linear regulated power supply, perhaps modded by Bolder Cable if your in the U.S. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30645 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Portable hi-fi
The (now discontinued, but still available on ebay) Rio Karma plays flac, is gapless, and is widely considered to have excellent sound quality. IMHO it's the most audiophile-centric DAP out there. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30642 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Noise Floor on SqueezeBox 3 - Normal?
Is a high noise floor typical for an SB3 or is there something wrong with my particular one? I have a SqueezeBox3. With efficient headphones Shure e4c's there is quite a bit of noise. With less efficient big headphones this is much reduced. So to listen with my Shures I have a separate volume control I connect in series with the phones, which I turn down, to reduce the noise, then I turn the SB up. The noise is there even if I turn the device off with the power button, but it is absent if I disconnect the SB from the wall. Has anyone else noticed, or not noticed the same thing? Thanks -- artsrc artsrc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9001 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30645 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Portable hi-fi
No. ;) But we could help you find the best thing possible with that limitation. Please preface everything below with "my personal opinion/experience is..." - FLAC support limits you to iAudio and Rockbox'ed devices. - No device offers good enough sound quality to make FLAC support relevant (unless you want FLAC support to avoid the trouble of transcoding) - iAudio X5, some iRiver models, and (no, not kidding) the original iPod shuffle reputedly have very good sound quality compared to their peers. I cannot verify this because I only have an X5 - The iAudio X5 and iRiver models seem to be favorites of the Rockbox project - I would recommend using RockBox--it won't improve sound quality, but it does add things like wider format support and gapless playback (which is a must-have for classical fans) - Make sure that your studio-class headset really is all it claims to be Good luck! -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30642 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Portable hi-fi
Hi. I'm curious, do any of you know of any portable (pocket) stereo player that can yield really precise and good sound? I'm thinking of a device that supports FLAC and can make the most out of a studio-class headset. I like my Zen Sleek and Shure e2c(these are not the ones I have in mind, mind you), but listening to Mozart's Requiem on it makes me a bit sad. -- Evanus Evanus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8548 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30642 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Bob Bressler;162706 Wrote: > Tom, > Isn't the issue reflections at different frequencies? Or, is that > something else that modern cables do better? I'm not sure what's meant by "modern" cables - a wire is a wire. For interconnects the shielding can be important, but speaker cables are really robust to interference because the currents involved are quite high. There's an article out on the web somewhere where someone tested a bunch of high-end speaker cables, and found that the more expensive ones in many cases measured far worse (in the sense of having larger inductance, capacitance, etc.) than basic wire. If they're bad enough, they might actually sound different, which could explain why people hear changes when they swap them out. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter wireless at 24/96
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=29059 It works fine, provided: - you downmix 6-channel streams to 2-channel - you don't use ReplayGain with the spectrum analyzer -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter wireless at 24/96
http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=32240.0 -- Wayne1 Wayne1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter wireless at 24/96
Has anyone successfully played 24/96 files or files upsampled to 24/96 using the Transporter? -- audioengr audioengr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8041 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?
highdudgeon;162526 Wrote: > At some point I would like to back up my entire CD collection, in Apple > Lossless or AIFF, to DVDs. Exactly what I did after I got through all my CDs, even though that's only 300some. Burned them to dvd, and the dvds are now in a fire proof fault :-) First things first! jan -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30594 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
tomsi42;162618 Wrote: > The reason for bi-wiring is (was?) that you could use different cables > for treble and bass. For 10-20 years ago, the cables weren't as well > designed as today, so you could get some cables that excelled on female > voices etc and others that gave you that "punch-in-the-stomach" bass you > wanted - with bi-wiring you got both. Tom, Isn't the issue reflections at different frequencies? Or, is that something else that modern cables do better? -- Bob Bressler Bob Audio Note CDT-Two->Audio Note DAC5 + Slim Transporter->Spectral DMC-20->Kassai amp->Audio Note AN Es Bob Bressler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2217 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter with dCS
I own a dCS DAC (dCS 955 + 972 upsampler + wordclock). I planned to changed my transport and was naturally intersted in the dCS Verdi. The Transporter could be an interesting alternative but is it worthwhile facing a Verdi. Has anyone tested the Transporter with a dCS DAC? Any opinion? -- fred1322 fred1322's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8994 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30639 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?
Patrick Dixon wrote: > highdudgeon;162496 Wrote: >> The majority of my collection is in Apple Lossless, not AAC -- I've just >> been doing that lately, for the heck of it. Honestly, I can't tell any >> difference. > I think you should definitely put that at the top of every post where > you say that there is no (or an insignificant) difference between > transports and DACs! > > It just goes to show how differently people listen to and hear music, > and how unwise it is (IMO) to take advice from people re sound quality > on internet fora. +10 The very same thought went through my mind as I choked on my tea as I read that. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: SB3 plus DAC vs Transporter with or without DAC
Dealer's cost on the TP is $1200., so you should be able to negotiate a discount. crooner;162539 Wrote: > You are right! > However, I think I'll wait until used or discounted units start showing > up. Hopefully a year from now! -- jhm731 jhm731's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30530 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
opaqueice;162523 Wrote: > Unless the Rotel has two separate amps inside it, one connected to the A > outs and one to the B, biwiring won't make the slightest bit of > difference. If (as is usually the case) A and B are connected inside > the amp, all you're doing is running two wires instead of one from the > same amp. You might reduce the resistance by some tiny amount, and > you'll change the inductance since the wiring arrangement is different, > but that's it. You'll make a bigger difference by precisely how you > arrange a given speaker wire (coiled versus snaked for example), or by > changing its length or type, then by bi-wiring.You'll also be changing the > capacitance (doubling it), and you'll be increasing the surface area of the cable which is relevent to the skin effect - you may not think the skin effect is relevent at audio frequencies though. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Hmm, very interesting. Thanks opaqueice. -- Impeller SqueezeBox 3 Wireless | Rotel RA-06 amplifier | Epos M12.2 speakers | Partington Super Dreadnought stands Impeller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New DAC, amplifier or speakers?
bludragon;162599 Wrote: > My experience with DAC's are that the effect is subtle I guess you're talking about classy DACs then? I played with a Dac-Ah recently and the sound was very different from the SB2 or Denon. Very warm. Didn't care for it too much... jan -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30552 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;162587 Wrote: > > So I've been hoodwinked by popular media? > I don't know if hoodwinked is the right word. If you read this forum much, or any audiophile discussion, you'll find disagreement on nearly everything. I think everyone is sincere, but people honestly disagree. Some people trust their perceptions, in non-blind tests, more than the results of centuries of scientific experimentation and progress. Given that we know that human perception is notoriously unreliable and subject to every imagninable kind of suggestion and influence, I find that a little hard to understand... but that's me. What I told you is what any electrical engineer or physicist (I'm a physicist) would tell you. What they say about biwiring in that article (at least in the first link, I didn't look at the other) is not consistent with anything I know about the way electrical signals conduct through cables. That said, you can choose to believe whatever you like, but it may be useful to know what the prevailing scientific view is. What is true is that different cables have slightly different properties, and some of those scale with the length, others with the gauge, etc. So in biwiring you're doing something, for sure - but it's a very small and subtle effect, and it must be remembered that there are hundreds of other effects around that are just as important. One example is re-routing the cables (which will change the inductance), and other is plugging in another electrical component, walking near the stereo, the weather, static electricity, etc. etc. So the science can tell you that the effects of biwiring are likely to be extremely small, and furthermore that there are other effects which are not controlled and likely to be as or more important, but that's as far as it goes. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Thanks tomis42. I'm not feeling ripped off or anything anyway - it sounds awesome to me and we haven't even put the spikes or Atabites "high density filler material" in the stands yet. I'm hoping this will give the music a fuller, heavier sound (particularly with regards to bass) which I'm informed it definitely will. -- Impeller Impeller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;162592 Wrote: > Yes, I was under the impression biamping makes more of a difference > which seemed logical. And a friend seems sure he's heard a difference > in biwiring his (cheaper) equipment. The reason for bi-wiring is (was?) that you could use different cables for treble and bass. For 10-20 years ago, the cables weren't as well designed as today, so you could get some cables that excelled on female voices etc and others that gave you that "punch-in-the-stomach" bass you wanted - with bi-wiring you got both. This isn't so much an issue these days, I quit using bi-wiring three years ago. This may sound that you have been tricked into buying a cable you don't need. Do not feel that way, because you have a larger wire gauge than a single set, and that is normally good. Tom -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Transporter inputs
JJZolx;161594 Wrote: > This weekend I was playing with running my CDP's digital out into the > Transporter and was messing around with switching between inputs. When > I switched from a SlimServer stream back to the RCA digital input (while > the disc was spinning in the CDP) I got no sound. Is anyone else seeing > something similar? > > Also, not long after, the whole thing locked up and could only be > recovered by that uniquely convenient Slim Devices method of unplugging > the unit. I have had this issue several times and also could not recover except by unplugging the TP. Let's open a bug report. -- gobikey gobikey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3804 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30534 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Another SB 3 review
Well... from this review: "On material such as the new self titled release by Rodrigo y Gabriela, the sound of their fingers on the guitar strings was perfectly integrated with the sound from the guitar body instead of being a distracting discombobulated noise." I have this recording and to be honest it is awfully mastered as the guitars are machine guns exactly what prejudice say about overcompression. So when this recording should suddenly sound awesome it makes me wonder what parts of the sound were left out. -- Wombat Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30584 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New DAC, amplifier or speakers?
bludragon;162599 Wrote: > err, which contacts? Plugs that are plated shouldn't need cleaning, > bare speaker wire will oxidise over time, but rather than clean it, you > can cut the end off and re-strip it. The plating is never perfect and should normally be cleaned. In another thread recently, what to do with wire was discussed; your approach is fine, but a soldered contact (or just tin the wires) gives long-term protection, and you don't run out of cable! bludragon;162599 Wrote: > To me, adding a linear psu made no difference, although adding a DAC > (albeit one quite a bit more expensive than the one you're looking at) > made a nice improvement. My experience with DAC's are that the effect > is subtle, unlike an amp, or speakers, but over a relaxed listening > session, the improvement is very worthwhile. i.e. it is hard to notice > a difference with quick AB's, but if you listen to an album with one > dac, and then switch to another, the difference becomes much more > apparent. I think the quality of the mains affects the PSU benefit - maybe your mains is good. Strongly agree with your comments on AB vs long-term listening; even when the differences are obvious (e.g. speakers), I still like to have a long time to decide which I *really* prefer. Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30552 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?
highdudgeon;162496 Wrote: > The majority of my collection is in Apple Lossless, not AAC -- I've just > been doing that lately, for the heck of it. Honestly, I can't tell any > difference.I think you should definitely put that at the top of every post > where you say that there is no (or an insignificant) difference between transports and DACs! It just goes to show how differently people listen to and hear music, and how unwise it is (IMO) to take advice from people re sound quality on internet fora. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30594 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New DAC, amplifier or speakers?
err, which contacts? Plugs that are plated shouldn't need cleaning, bare speaker wire will oxidise over time, but rather than clean it, you can cut the end off and re-strip it. To me, adding a linear psu made no difference, although adding a DAC (albeit one quite a bit more expensive than the one you're looking at) made a nice improvement. My experience with DAC's are that the effect is subtle, unlike an amp, or speakers, but over a relaxed listening session, the improvement is very worthwhile. i.e. it is hard to notice a difference with quick AB's, but if you listen to an album with one dac, and then switch to another, the difference becomes much more apparent. -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30552 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Yes, I was under the impression biamping makes more of a difference which seemed logical. And a friend seems sure he's heard a difference in biwiring his (cheaper) equipment. -- Impeller Impeller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New DAC, amplifier or speakers?
adamslim;162583 Wrote: > Or if you want to be able to find it with an online search, you could go > for Caig Deoxit ;) > > They have a 'Technicians' survival kit', as I remember, which has all > you need for about £20. > > Adam I know, I really should learn how to spell :=) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30552 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
Impeller;162587 Wrote: > > So I've been hoodwinked by popular media? > > Still, at least at least it shouldn't adversely affect anything. I'm > just about to go and have a listen at more normal volume levels now > that the family isn't in bed. No, you've not been hoodwinked. Just be clear about the difference between bi-amping (two separate amps driving) and bi-wiring. Bi-wiring gets you certain benefits precisely because our conductors are not perfect. Whether they make an audible difference is up to you. The cost is usually moderate. Bi-amping gets you those benefits plus some more besides, at higher cost. You pays your money.. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: HiFi System needed to show difference: SB3, TP
I see - your explanation makes sense to me (the separate signals going straight back into the same circuit in the amp). What Hi-Fi doesn't seem to agree that it takes two amp circuits to benefit: http://www.whathifi.com/newsMainTemplate.asp?storyID=59&newssectionID=3 http://www.whathifi.com/newsMainTemplate.asp?storyID=60&newssectionID=3 > Biwiring involves the use of two runs of cable between an amp and a > suitable pair of speakers, and works because the return feeds between > the speakers and amplifier aren't carrying full-range signal, but only > that relevant to the appropriate part of the speaker. > > So the treble and mid/bass are kept apart right from the speaker > outputs of the amp to the speakers, the result usually being a sound > with greater bass control and punch, and a crisper, cleaner treble. All > this is heard as a greater focus of the sound, and better presence and > detail. > > ... > > With the possible exception of amps with springclip terminals, which > have trouble accommodating even single cables, any amp can be used for > biwiring. Some provide twin sets of speaker terminals specifically > designed for biwiring, while others have A and B speaker outlets you > can use to the same effect. If the latter's the case, you need both > sets of terminals turned on all the time. So I've been hoodwinked by popular media? Still, at least at least it shouldn't adversely affect anything. I'm just about to go and have a listen at more normal volume levels now that the family isn't in bed. -- Impeller Impeller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30074 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 320kbps -- too much?
highdudgeon;162526 Wrote: > I know, it is awful. > > Thankfully, I keep my collection in nice boxes, alphabetized by genre. > I've be rescanning some stuff and it hit me that I can actually zero in > on some thing faster with my eyes and fingers than with a remote > control. Go figure. > > At some point I would like to back up my entire CD collection, in Apple > Lossless or AIFF, to DVDs. Every last CD (not FLAC because I am an > Macintosh user). Yes, as another one, I'd gathered. My discs are in ring binders, (less space) and in chronological order either by date of birth of composer or by date of release of first album, depending on genre, which makes life more interesting. "Now, was Tallis born before Byrd or after? And where's Praetorius gone? Bother. I was sure he was round here somewhere." It's a sort of DIY musicology course every time I fumble for a disc. After all, for Machaut next to Meatloaf, Wizzard mixed up with Warlock, and the Beach Boys jostling with Beethoven, there's always the remote - and yes, I agree about the remote. It is painfully slow. Have you solved your drop out problem? -- geraint smith geraint smith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30594 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: New DAC, amplifier or speakers?
tomjtx;162486 Wrote: > Craig D Oxit followed by Craig Pro-Gold. You can buy it at Fry's > Electroncs (cheapest prices) or online @ MusicDirect Or if you want to be able to find it with an online search, you could go for Caig Deoxit ;) They have a 'Technicians' survival kit', as I remember, which has all you need for about £20. Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30552 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
