Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MhdtLab DAC
DrRasta;186563 Wrote: > I am using a Paradisea dac with stock tube. SB with upgraded > transformer. The Paradisea brings a musicality that the SB dac does > not have, which could be attributed to the tube. On the other hand it > does lack some detail, which is more an error of omission, and not > missed due to it's musicality. How it sounds in your system will > depend on associated components, but I'd definitely recommend upgrading > the SB power supply first. Ok, Sounds great since i prefer musicality before extreme detail. But a good balance between them is the best. Now i have an tube driven preamp and big Class A monoblock to my 3 way speakers. Did like my tubedriven CDP before and when i connected the Squeezebox in my system i think i lost some of the musicality. Therefore i will buy an extrenal DAC. About the powersupply, what good powersupply can i find? I need 230V. Does not have the knowledge to DIY one so i think i will have to buy one. I DIY speakers and cables but when it comes to electricity my knowledge is about zero. -- mangew mangew's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10488 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linear power supply for SB3 and power filters
An upgraded power supply to the SB... and then you want to connect it to your power conditioner, which offers different isolation for analog and digital devices due to the noise they may inject back. It's an easy choice with devices that use AC directly - the amplifier's analog, CD player digital etc. With the SB power supply, I have it connected as a digital, but I wonder if there's reasonable doubt given the fact it basically takes DC and the upgraded power supply itself may be doing isolation. Not that I'll really hear the difference. :-) -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33416 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Power Supply
Try looking here Goto http://www.hosfelt.com/ click on 'adapters' in the left scroll area click on '3-5VDC Adapters' in upper left I bought one from these folks, although they no longer list the one I have. What you want is a 5VDC supply with at least 1 amp, regulated. You may end up having to swap the output jack for one that fits the SB, but that should be easy if you know how to solder. You also need to make sure that the polatity of the jack is correct for the SB. -- bobschneider bobschneider's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33443 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks
dlite;186586 Wrote: > Definitely use the TP direct to a power amp if you can, at the price > there is next to nothing that can beat it. The transparancy and > immediacy is just amazing. Seconded. Not using TP, but DAC3 into ref1000's. Stunning. -- sonofcolin sonofcolin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9291 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33327 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Equalisation not gapless?
I've seen the same problem since upgrading to the 6.5.1 server, but chalked it up to a server transcode gap-skipping bug (with various manifestations reported on the forums here; my writeup bug #4742). The DSP itself does handle gapless properly, for all I can tell. I'll check with the 6.5.2 builds and report back. -- inguz inguz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33419 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and Nuforce monobloks
As both a Nuforce and Bel Canto dealer in Australia, I would go for an ice power amp (eg.Belcanto REF1000) over the Nuforce. I am afraid that the Nuforce build quality and other issues lead me to recommend Belcanto over Nuforce. The Nuforce also generates enough RFI to take out FM reception at 10 metres. Definitely use the TP direct to a power amp if you can, at the price there is next to nothing that can beat it. The transparancy and immediacy is just amazing. -- dlite dlite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33327 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21
I have not read this whole thread but since I sell the Benchmark, Lavry DA10 and Transporter, and having previously owned a the Trivista 21 I feel I am in a better place to comment than most. My pick of the bunch, if connected directly to a power amp, the Transporter by a long shot, connect via a preamp, the Lavry and Transporter come out pretty much the same. The Trivista 21 is one of the poorest sounding and sterile DAC's I have ever heard, I sold mine quite quickly after getting it, was happy to see it go. There were only 1300 of these made but there always seems to be plenty of them for sale everywhere, to me this is not a good sign. -- dlite dlite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MhdtLab DAC
I also have the Constantine DAC, for the price excellent value, but to me is very laid back sound and not very dynamic. -- dlite dlite's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4885 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini
I'll give it a try this weekend. Thanks for the input, i'll let you know how it turns out. Or let me restate that, i'll let you know how I think it turns out. -- khedspeth Kevin Hedspeth Squeezebox 3.0 => Bel Canto e.One S300i => B&W 705 khedspeth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7303 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linear power supply for SB3 and power filters
pablolie;186367 Wrote: > If one has an upgraded linear power supply for the SB3... what should a > configurable outlet in the power filter be set up for? Your question is hard to understand. What are the configuration options that you are trying to sort out? ---Gary -- GaryB GaryB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33416 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wanted: Transporter
Looking for Transporter in a good shape, preferably black. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kiep Kiep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8844 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33445 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modifying the Squeezebox 3
thats fine about the superReg board. I wasn't sure where you were. The 3.3Vdd is the digital side of the DAC. My understanding is that the only change from SB2->SB3 was that the regulator in question was changed from a switcher to linear reg. So exactly as shown in that diagram (http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?topic=20977.msg185744#msg185744), except the first reg is now linear. So the DAC Vdd shares it reg with "wireless/IO/logic". It is not derived from the 14V line, and is not cascaded from the 5V Vcc reg as shown on the dac datasheet. Not sure how critical Vdd is, but definite room for improvement. -- parrydave *modded squeezebox 3/arcam cd92t/arcam a85/arcam avr300 dynaudio contour 1.3mkii/dynaudio focus 200c/mk k-4/rel q150 pioneer pdp-507xd/sky+/harmony 525* parrydave's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6079 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19822 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Power Supply
I just got the SB3 last week and so far I love it! I'd like to slowly move up to some of the mods, but I don't have the cash right now. Is there a linear power supply that I could purchase (maybe online) that would be an upgrade to the stock power supply that came with the SB3. I've looked through the forum here and all I see are the expensive modded power supplied from Bolder and Welborne, etc. I'd like one that is relatively cheap and that's plug-and-play. Does such a thing exist? -- clar2391 clar2391's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33443 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MhdtLab DAC
I am using a Paradisea dac with stock tube. SB with upgraded transformer. The Paradisea brings a musicality that the SB dac does not have, which could be attributed to the tube. On the other hand it does lack some detail, which is more an error of omission, and not missed due to it's musicality. How it sounds in your system will depend on associated components, but I'd definitely recommend upgrading the SB power supply first. -- DrRasta DrRasta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4790 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini
There is a divergance of opinion on this. It looks like you have an excellent system. Try it and tell us what YOU think. Really! -- konut konut's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1596 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini
One of the few things that we seem to agree on is that all the squeezebox's are good at jitter control. So my bet is that the squeezebox will sound better no matter what cable you use. Tom -- tomsi42 SB3, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact, Kimber Kable 4TC and Timbre. tomsi42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modifying the Squeezebox 3
parrydave;186517 Wrote: > > Sorry, I missed your kind offer of the SuperReg board. If you still > have it, i could definitely put it to good use. I'm in UK though. I'm afraid that would mostly just be doing the postal service a favor, by shipping it back across. I only got 4, and plan to use three on Sb- so will have to leave the offer open to Gary or someone else in the US I'm afraid. They are reasonably priced though: http://www.at-view.co.uk/alwsr.htm > > I found something interesting over on AudioCircle.com about the origins > of 3.3Vdd for SB2... > > "Apparently, the 3.3Vdd for the DAC is not coming from a separate > regulator off the 14Vdc rails, but is coming off the switching > regulator (the 1st regulator shown in the above diagram) which is also > powering a slew of other stuff. Moving it to the linear regulator > powering the headphone amp, assuming it is of sufficient quality and > quantity, might be a good idea." > There were some changes I asked sean about in the second post that I linked to earlier, to which he responded seanadams Wrote: > > As far as the power supply changes from SB2 to SB3, this was a design > optimization where a integrated dual switching IC for 1v2/3v3 supply > was replaced with a 1v2 switcher and a 3v3 linear reg for the digital > sections. It does not affect the analog rails. But I'm not sure if Vdd is considered analog or digital. For what it's worth, you should take anything I say about so and so being connected w/ a grain of salt, if I haven't already demonstrated a lack of experience :) -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19822 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini
>From what I've read, most think a coax link to a dac is better than an optical link. Therefore the sb3 is probably better than a mac with optical link to a dac. -- KeithL KeithL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9272 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mac Mini
I currently have SB3 in my 2 channel system. What is everyone's opinion on how this sounds as compared to running the optical out of a mac mini into a good DAC (Benchmark/Lavry)? Both would feed into a Bel Canto S300i - B&W 705 setup. This would allow me to move the SB3 into system in my den. -- khedspeth Kevin Hedspeth Squeezebox 3.0 => Bel Canto e.One S300i => B&W 705 khedspeth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7303 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
Phil Leigh;186516 Wrote: > You could try listening to it... Phil, cable with flimsy connectors is to-be-defected cable, and not every defect can be revealed from the very first test. It may work OK first day, a week, a month... and then show me an intermittent problem, for which I won't know whom to blame, as I won't be able to reproduce it consistently... Besides, when I'm looking for a new car, I normally try to look deeper then into a sole driving test... Brands normally do well for me... -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital or Analogue to fully digital receiver?
thanks for the replies, I'll stay with fully digital now and check the other way some other day :-) -- livelock livelock's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33310 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21
Pat Farrell;186352 Wrote: > P Floding wrote: > > In addition I don't think cranking out DACs is such an impressive > thing > > compared to a lot of electronics engineering. It's a bunch of > standard > > parts, after all. > > Isn't that where we were in the late 70s, all amplifiers sound alike > because they all have the same parts and same gross ratings (power, > THD, > etc.) > > :-) > > Audiophiles, by definition, believe there are differences. > > The art of engineering is not to make the best possible thing, > it is making the best things at a specific price. It is not a lot of > challenge to make, say an FM radio, but to make one with under $1.50 > worth of parts requires thinking. Doing it under $0.75 takes far more. > > And don't discount layout quite so quickly. How you arrange the parts > makes a big difference. > > > YMMV, etc > > -- > Pat > http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html Yes, but the issue here was the difficulty of understanding the fundamental operation of a DAC. That is not a big issue, and credibility is not an issue in this case. Anyone with the right engineering skills can verify John's claims. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modifying the Squeezebox 3
Skunk, Sorry, I missed your kind offer of the SuperReg board. If you still have it, i could definitely put it to good use. I'm in UK though. Good job confirming U5=Vcc and U8=Vdd. As you say though, it'd be nice to see where they get their feeds. I remember an old post where Sean reported an improvement with analogue output when powering the SB2 DAC with superRegs. Unfortunately, the details are no longer available on seanadams.com. It would have been interesting to see how he did it. -- parrydave *modded squeezebox 3/arcam cd92t/arcam a85/arcam avr300 dynaudio contour 1.3mkii/dynaudio focus 200c/mk k-4/rel q150 pioneer pdp-507xd/sky+/harmony 525* parrydave's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6079 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19822 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
325xi;186512 Wrote: > OK, people - now, after everybody finally believed in jitter existence, > can we return to the original subject? :) > > To summarise the overwhelming response - Toslink works according to > specification, which no inherent production flaws, so there's no reason > to avoid it, or even better, use coax only when Toslink isn't available. > I didn't miss anything, right? > > > Now the next step. Few mentioned here that quality of optical connector > can cause problems. Any advise of how to discern a good quality optical > cable from something with cheap flaky connectors? Is it a matter of > particular brands, or whatever else? I presume I can't evaluate quality > just by looking at the cable or its price tag, right? You could try listening to it... -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical connection - inferior by default?
OK, people - now, after everybody finally believed in jitter existence, can we return to the original subject? :) To summarise the overwhelming response - Toslink works according to specification, which no inherent production flaws, so there's no reason to avoid it, or even better, use coax only when Toslink isn't available. I didn't miss anything, right? Now the next step. Few mentioned here that quality of optical connector can cause problems. Any advise of how to discern a good quality optical cable from something with cheap flaky connectors? Is it a matter of particular brands, or whatever else? I presume I can't evaluate quality just by looking at the cable or its price tag, right? -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33146 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21
mlsstl;186331 Wrote: > > I would not want to do business with an entity with such low > integrity. > > I think you are rushing to judgment. I own a DA-10 and think it sounds > marvelous. I've also followed the discussion over at diyhifi.org and at > lavry.com. Several points to consider. > > 1. The fellow who started the debate (JohnW) basically admits he does > not fully understand the design. Much of his criticisms is based on his > projection of what he thinks may be happening. > > 2. The "measurements" taken from the DA-10 were mid-circuit. This is > kind of like commenting on sausage making being a messy process without > regard to whether the final product is any good. No review or > measurement I've seen published anywhere states anything other than the > final output of the DA-10 is outstanding in all respects, whether jitter > or another parameter. > > 3. JohnW also refers to a 1997 white paper (On Jitter) than Dan Lavry > wrote in which he introduces his "Crystal Lock" design theory. This is > the specific design used in the Lavry DA924, which is a $8,500 > professional studio model. JohnW implies that since the identical > circuity used in the $8,500 model isn't used in the under-$1,000 DA-10 > that there has been misrepresentation. That is a silly allegation. > > There are many manufacturers who release very expensive, first > generation products. Then over the years, they find ways to implement > those ideas into less expensive products. The reduced cost generally > requires compromises. Lavry cut the cost of the DA-10 by 88% compared > to the DA924. Can you argue with a straight face that the circuits > should be identical? > > Dan Lavry has an outstanding reputation in the high end audio and > professional recording studio industry. He has written a number of > serious and highly praised white papers and makes himself available to > his customers in as open a manner as I've seen. The criticism was > started by one JohnW who seems to be somewhere in Czech republic, > France or Hong Kong (take your pick) and lists his qualifications as > "consultant." > > Given the above, it is interesting to see how quickly one is awarded > more credibility than the other. I don't know how I could have been any clearer that my statement only applied in the case that the allegations of misrepresentation are true. I wrote: "Additionally, it may cause one to wonder whether they have made any other misrepresentations. I would not want to do business with an entity with such low integrity. Assuming these allegations are true, of course" -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Equalisation not gapless?
I am running the following: SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11332 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Server IP address: 192.168.1.100 Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt -- rbl rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33419 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21
cliveb;186453 Wrote: > > > Yes, but one of the points made in that thread was that the switching > PSU inside the DA10 is a cheap off-the-shelf one, and it has stacks of > noise on the power rails. Hmmm - this noise would appear not to trouble the many Lavry fans so I wonder why not? Maybe it is effectively filtered out elsewhere? (I know prevention is better than cure but...) -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MhdtLab DAC
I have the MHDT Lab Constantine, which if I understand correctly, is basically a Paradisea dac without the tube. I've had it for about 4 weeks and I've had my SB3 for about a week now. It's a great combination and probably the best digital playback I've ever had in my system. I've never had really hi-priced playback gear, but this is great. Add to that the convenience of a remote and wireless streaming and it tops anything I've had before. -- clar2391 clar2391's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21
Ben Diss;186391 Wrote: > If it's such a piece of crap, why does it sound so good? Having read the thread on DIYHifi forum, I don't think anyone is saying it's a "piece of crap". Just that it doesn't work the way that Lavry claims. Phil Leigh;186424 Wrote: > Probably because: > 1) It is perfectly possible to design a switching PSU that outperforms > a linear one (see Linn and Chord for examples) Yes, but one of the points made in that thread was that the switching PSU inside the DA10 is a cheap off-the-shelf one, and it has stacks of noise on the power rails. -- cliveb Performers -> dozens of mixers and effects -> clipped/hypercompressed mastering -> you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modifying the Squeezebox 3
parrydave;186397 Wrote: > Maybe U8 is the 3.3V reg and is fed from U5 as in the DAC datasheet > application notes. Although U6 looks better positioned for pin 5 > (3.3V). Need to look at the board properly. Thanks for looking into this further, and I'm glad you found the schematic. Let me know if you'd like any more pics/measurements, because I'll have mine apart for awhile. I think U6 is for the 2041 opamp, and I do get a reading on the meter connecting the two. I can also get a reading from U5 to Vcc, and U8 to Vdd- but haven't figured out U5 to U8. Also, the big ass cap is the filter from the display power (IIRC), but I'm still not sure exactly where 12-14V could be routed in, to avoid messing w/ the surface mount regs alltogether. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19822 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MhdtLab DAC
Anyone that has experience of the DAC´s from MhdtLab? Especially Paradisea, but all of them are interesting. Quality, sound, overall opinion? -- mangew mangew's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10488 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale Motorola A1200 $180usd
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modifying the Squeezebox 3
GaryB;186354 Wrote: > Well it has been a long time since I poked around inside my SB3 but the > way you figure these things out is to check the chip datasheets and > then visually trace the wiring on the circuit board. Using a > multimeter to verify things are wired up the way one expects is > critical. You do this by measuring resistance with the SB3 turned off. > Thanks a lot Gary, the offer of a free alw superreg +board is open to you as well, since dave must not've wanted it (:P). As soon as I had the multimeter in hand I realized the probes were far too big not to short things out, so I let it sit overnight before mucking around. I'm not positive, but it looks like the output for the regulator goes to a trace on a different layer. > Then you have a few options in terms of how to wire in new Vdd and Vcc > supplies. Easiest is to just remove the existing regulators and use > the pads for those regulators as the entry points for the new power > supplies. My main concern right now is whether replacing Vcc would get Vdd off the switcher as well, using a single superReg at U5. That brought up the question of whether they need to be on the same rail for startup reasons, which may be a silly question for all I know. I would rather use a second super regulator for the spdif out. I seem to remember reading a comment by sean about a chip in the clocking circuit that was easy to superregulate by lifting a pin and decoupling, so that may be my next project :-) -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19822 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21
Ben Diss;186391 Wrote: > If it's such a piece of crap, why does it sound so good? Probably because: 1) It is perfectly possible to design a switching PSU that outperforms a linear one (see Linn and Chord for examples) 2) NE55xx's were/are used in many top-end mixing desks and outboard gear so a lot of our CD's & albums already have their sound all over them 3) the cost of a component has no fundamental relationship with its sonic abilities ...but ya never know! -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Equalisation not gapless?
Which version of the SlimServer are you running? -- inguz inguz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33419 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modifying the Squeezebox 3
Thanks for your input GaryB. Regarding the regulators... In the photo, the only bits that look like regulators are U5, U6 and U8. I found a post from Sean Adams (link below) which identifies the 5V and 9V regs as Texas Instruments UA78L05ACPK and UA78L09ACPK. Looking at the datasheet for these, the "PK" package looks a lot like U5 and U6 on your photo. Also, I can just about see what might be a "5" written on U5, and "9" on U6. U8 looks to have "L33" or something written on it and is possibly linked to U5 - hard to tell on photo. My guess would be that U8 is the 3.3V reg and is fed from U5 as in the DAC datasheet application notes. Also, referring to an old schematic of the DAC section from Sean (link below), the power supplies each have 100nF, 10uF and 220uF filter caps. So C7 and C9 are something to do with it too. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=43522&postcount=10 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=141404&postcount=5 -- parrydave *modded squeezebox 3/arcam cd92t/arcam a85/arcam avr300 dynaudio contour 1.3mkii/dynaudio focus 200c/mk k-4/rel q150 pioneer pdp-507xd/sky+/harmony 525* parrydave's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6079 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19822 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] $1000 DAC: Lavry DA10 vs used MF Trivista 21
crooner;186364 Wrote: > I read the thread on DIYhifi.org's forums. It seems the Lavry is plagued > with problems. Even the much hyped "Crystalock" feature is subpar! > > Judging by the internal photos shown of the Lavry on the aformentioned > thread, it appears to use a very cheap (and noisy) switching power > supply. > > I can't imagine this being superior or even comparable to the > Transporter or any other linear PS equipped high-quality DAC for that > matter. > > To make matters worse, it uses a low cost Delta Sigma DAC chip > (AD1955). Even cheaper than the unit used in the Benchmark. > > I wouldn't be surprised if it also uses the dreaded NE5533 OP-Amp on > the outputs! > > I hope mmg-fan has some sort of return policy! If it's such a piece of crap, why does it sound so good? -- Ben Diss 'SB3' (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html) -> 'Lavry DA10' (http://www.lavryengineering.com/productspage_da_10.html) -> 'BAT VK-31SE' (http://www.balanced.com/products/line/Vk-31SE/index.html) -> 'Halo A21' (http://www.parasound.com/halo/a21.php) -> 'B&W 803D' (http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.models/label/Model%20803D) Ben Diss's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33304 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Equalisation not gapless?
I have been using Inguz's room correction / equaliser. It appears that on some tracks it can insert a small gap between tracks, or even miss a little at the end of a track. Am using FLACs encoded by EAC. If I disable Inguz in File Settings then the gap problem goes away, so the FLACs themselves are ok. I don't think it is meant to do this. Any ideas? I am running it over a wireless network on 2.8GHz Windows XP PC with nothing else going on. -- rbl rbl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4517 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33419 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] external DAC for Squeezebox
Hamlet;186343 Wrote: > Are you saying that you prefer the SB2 over the more expensive & sexy > Sonos, if so on which qualities is this based, and do you find any > utility in having both of them? Yes I do prefer the SB2 over the Sonos personally. Surprisingly it is the much maligned SB remote that I find far more convenient to use with one hand when lazing or lying in bed, than the heavy Sonos Controller which needs both hands to operate. I know the layout of the SB remote very well, and seldom need to look at it. I also like the nice display on the SB2 unit which can display as much or as little information as I want it to. In the earlier days, the SqueezeBox did Pandora, which I love - and the Sonos did Rhapsody, which was also nice to have. Now the SB does both, so that's a huge advantage. With respect to sound, I think the SB has an advantage when played through its internal DAC but the Sonos is pretty decent too. When played through an external DAC, they are pretty even (I think the SB might have a slight edge when played through an external DAC - but it might be a psychological thing so I wouldn't bet my life on that one). Finally the geek in me simply loves to tinker with the whole Slimserver + SB setup. But I do like the Sonos as well and I don't have any desire to get rid of it. I live in a joint family, and my sister prefers the Sonos - it becomes much easier for her to add music to different parts of the house using Sonos Zone players if I leave my setup in its current state. Also my SB often travels with me, when I am halfway across the world as I am now. So its good to leave the Sonos setup in place. There are a couple of other threads that deal with this: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23490 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33224 http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33248 -- Nikhil Nikhil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=993 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33380 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New to squeezebox, upgrades
gsrai;184952 Wrote: > Another DAC you might try is the Musical Fidelity Trivista DAC (I have > one and will be trying it out this weekend with the Squeezebox - if I > can find a cable!!!) Or the MF X-Dac v3 + x10 Tube Buffer+ X-PSU (the "triple threat DAC")... or the new X-Dac V8 which is an all in one box version and looks very tasty... -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33226 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New to squeezebox, upgrades
Anyone that has experience of th MhdtLab Paradisea? What can you tell about this? -- mangew mangew's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10488 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33226 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
