Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Headless music server
Thanks Jim, Computer B now appears to be scanning my music. Man that is so F**ked UP, how is someone supposed to know that, I would have never figured that one out. Thanks again, you guys are the best. JDB -- jdbaker SB3/Parasound C2/A51/PSB CHS60's/CHS40/Triad Gold Dipole Inwall Surrounds/Triad Inwall Silver Sub. SB3/Conrad Johnson D/A 2-B Tubed DAC/Arcam FMJ A32/Monitor Audio Silver S6 jdbaker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New User - Please help with 96K playback
I moved my 96K file to a new folder & got it to show up in slimserver. But when I try to play the file, it never starts - the browser window just resets over & over trying to play it. Again, the file plays fine in Windows. -- dudeymon dudeymon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12453 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36986 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Headless music server
jdbaker;216031 Wrote:
> Finally got around to putting this together, got SS running on the old
> box and everything seemed cool until I tried to direct SS to the
> networked drives where the music and playlists are contained. To
> refresh, I have an old XP that I have hard wired into my network, we
> will call that computer B, my music is connected via external HD to
> computer A, my Itunes XML file is located on computer A. When I run SS
> on computer B and in the SS settings for Itunes direct it to the
> network drive I get this "oops F:\Itunes\Itunes Music doesn't seem to
> be a valid directory". I called SD support and the guy really did not
> listen to me, just said you need a UNC path and would email me the
> directions to create one. Ok,\\doug\3RDHD(F)\ITUNES\ITUNES MUSIC
> produces the exact same error message. Directing computer A to this
> directory works perfectly and I can access this directory on computer B
> through My Computer. Anyone have any ideas? I have come so far, I just
> need to access my music.
Is SlimServer running as a Windows service or as a user process ("run
at logon" or somesuch wording in SlimTray)?
If it's running as a service, then you may have to run the service
under a Windows user account instead of the built-in SYSTEM account.
Create an account specifically for SlimServer and modify the service
startup to use this account. Then try again to enter the UNC path to
the library.
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New User - Please help with 96K playback
Hi All - Just got my transporter today and starting to use. I have a question about playing 96K/24b WAV files. I have a few resampled files done by Goldwave that play fine using Windows media player and are clearly 96K/24b in the file properties, but I can't get Slimserver to recognize the file for me to play on the Transporter. Does anybody have any sample WAV 96K/24b files they could send me or point me to that do work that I can test with? My guess is that I am doing something wrong or the file is not properly formated by Goldwave. Thanks. Dudeymon -- dudeymon dudeymon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12453 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36986 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Headless music server
Finally got around to putting this together, got SS running on the old box and everything seemed cool until I tried to direct SS to the networked drives where the music and playlists are contained. To refresh, I have an old XP that I have hard wired into my network, we will call that computer B, my music is connected via external HD to computer A, my Itunes XML file is located on computer A. When I run SS on computer B and in the SS settings for Itunes direct it to the network drive I get this "oops F:\Itunes\Itunes Music doesn't seem to be a valid directory". I called SD support and the guy really did not listen to me, just said you need a UNC path and would email me the directions to create one. Ok,\\doug\3RDHD(F)\ITUNES\ITUNES MUSIC produces the exact same error message. Directing computer A to this directory works perfectly and I can access this directory on computer B through My Computer. Anyone have any ideas? I have come so far, I just need to access my music. JDB -- jdbaker SB3/Parasound C2/A51/PSB CHS60's/CHS40/Triad Gold Dipole Inwall Surrounds/Triad Inwall Silver Sub. SB3/Conrad Johnson D/A 2-B Tubed DAC/Arcam FMJ A32/Monitor Audio Silver S6 jdbaker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW
snarlydwarf;216019 Wrote: > Throw enough RAM at the problem and it's trivial. Not at all. You still have to _get_ all that data to the player. And you still have to be able to generate some audible rendition of it as you scan through the compressed stream. And you still have several of the other issues I originally mentioned, such as supporting the myriad of formats. So only if you had unlimited RAM, CPU, and bandwidth, and only one format to support would it be "trivial". And as long as you're having all that, why not a pony too? :) Anyway if you could only change one of those things, I'd say the best one would be the bandwidth. If you're guaranteed the throughput, low latency, and zero packet loss of 100Mbps ethernet (as in the DVR example) then the problem becomes a LOT more manageable. More RAM is nice but certainly wouldn't solve the problem per se. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36446 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW
thomsens wrote: > Pat Farrell;216023 Wrote: >> A modern PC has a gigabyte of RAM, which can hold a complete CD, >> uncompressed, in memory. Serious PCs for either Vista or development >> have two or three gig. > If it's really a matter of inadequate hw, then my original assertion > that initial architectural decisions (i.e., hw specs) were the problem > is true. Sean says that is not the case. Er, I wasn't talking about the SqueezeBox. The question was why can a Windoze Media Center handle it properly, and the reason is that it is a powerful generalized system. I don't quite get how you jump from Sean's initial post in this thread to your conclusion. The SqueezeBox and the Transporter are embedded systems. That is a totally different design space for software than generalized PCs/Mac, etc. What you seem to be asking for is that the price to everyone be increased to meet your needs for FF/RW. I never use it, never tried. Never tried it on the CD players I've had over the decades. I used to do all sorts of stuff when I was a radio station DJ when there were vinyl disks on turntables, but that was long ago and far away. What Sean said was that it is not easy. He decided not to do it. What changes because you want it anyway? I am sure that if a strong majority or even a significant minority wanted it, a future version might. But so far, I don't see more than a few people wanting it. Not to say that the few don't want it a lot, but there is no groundswell of support. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW
snarlydwarf;216019 Wrote: > The typical PC has substantially more RAM to devote to buffering decoded > frames than a Squeezebox. > > Throw enough RAM at the problem and it's trivial. My understanding was that the problem was technical implementation, not architectural decisions made on the hw. And, for $2K, the transporter should come with adequate RAM for the task. Even FLAC files are < 50Mb typically. -- thomsens thomsens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1352 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36446 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW
snarlydwarf wrote: > The typical PC has substantially more RAM to devote to buffering > decoded frames than a Squeezebox. Right A modern PC has a gigabyte of RAM, which can hold a complete CD, uncompressed, in memory. Serious PCs for either Vista or development have two or three gig. Any modern PC also has a vastly more powerful CPU than a SqueezeBox. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW
thomsens;216015 Wrote: > I'd still be interested as to why MCE seems to be able to handle what > appears on the surface to be a much more challenging, but similar task. The typical PC has substantially more RAM to devote to buffering decoded frames than a Squeezebox. Throw enough RAM at the problem and it's trivial. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36446 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter together with Nuforce amp?
Interesting coincidence, I use: SB3 Parasound Halo Preamp NuForce reference 9SE V2 Vienna Acoustics Mahler Very happy with this, besides some of the quirks of the SB or Slim Server (sometimes it just "skips" in the middle of a music piece. I cannot understand how this can happen as the SB3 using an IP protocol should guarantee that all the packets arrive in order and there should be no way that a digital music stream would skip. I can understand stutters if you have a bad connection and the buffer is not full, but plain skips is beyond my understanding... this started after 6.1... -- mik63 mik63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36916 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Here is why no FF/RW
thomsens;215317 Wrote: > MCE2005. So if I understand correctly, DVR-MS is just MPEG2 with a > metadata wrapper. So, I assume it's an MPEG-2 file. > > Just to be sure, I just went and tested an SD and an HD recorded file > accessed from my Infrant NV across the network to the MCE. Both work > fine in both jump ahead/jump back mode. I have it setup to skip 7 sec > back (missed what just happened) and skip 30 sec forward (skip > commercial) - both work somewhat instantaneously and for multiple > clicks. It also works fine for both formats for fast forward or rewind > in multiple levels of speed. It can get into trouble if you leave it > too long in those modes, but it falls very squarely into the acceptable > implementation range for all practical uses. Obviously the audio is > silent during the video jumps, but it does come back instantly when > playback resumes. There's no reason to think this is anything more > than user experience issue since it's really the video you are > searching anyway and the chipmunk sound would just be annoying anyway. > It may be technically challenging too, but it strikes me that the > buffering challenges would be much greater in the HD video scenario > than the audio only scenario. > > For grins, I also checked the music portion of the MCE. For reference, > MCE's music capabilities are laughable and in my opinion, the PM for > that portion of the product should find alternative employment. > However, the FF function works well for MP3. There apparently isn't an > option for RW since it does nothing when you press that button. So for > MP3, the MCE has proven that a workable and CD-like verion of FF is > possible. I can't say the lack RW function is technical since the > overall implementation for music in MCE is so bad, I'd assume poor > product management first. I'd still be interested as to why MCE seems to be able to handle what appears on the surface to be a much more challenging, but similar task. -- thomsens thomsens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1352 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36446 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Part Number of DAC
Skunk wrote: > PCM1748, but I read some white ones at one time came with the > PCM1748KE, which has slightly better specs for twenty cents more > (guessing on price). Upgrading to the KE version is pretty standard for > modders doing analog upgrades. Today on Digikey, its 23 cents each. > Something to consider is the standard part performs better than > it's specs in this application, according to the designer of the > squeezebox. On a lot of components, the expensive version has no better prefprmance than the standard, in practice. The difference is that the higher spec unit is guaranteed to meet the higher specs. Which is not at all the same as saying that the high-spec part is better. OR that the average hi-spec part is better than the average standard part. The PC CPU makers have been doing this for ages. They make a bunch of CPUs, and all of the parts make at least the spec frequency. The ones that they bother to test, and pass, get stamped with higher frequencies and the price is higher. The CPU may, or may not, be actually faster. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Part Number of DAC
audio53;216003 Wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anybody know the Burr-Brown part number for the DAC in the SB3? I > would like to download the datasheet to see the specs. It's an Engineer > thing :-)) > > Thanks. > > Bob PCM1748, but I read some white ones at one time came with the PCM1748KE, which has slightly better specs for twenty cents more (guessing on price). Upgrading to the KE version is pretty standard for modders doing analog upgrades. So in your engineering opinion, would the twenty cent increase be worth the added expense to the bill of materials, if you were designing the Sb3? Something to consider is the standard part performs better than it's specs in this application, according to the designer of the squeezebox. Anyway, have a blast: http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/pcm1748.html -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36982 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Part Number of DAC
Hi all, Does anybody know the Burr-Brown part number for the DAC in the SB3? I would like to download the datasheet to see the specs. It's an Engineer thing :-)) Thanks. Bob -- audio53 EAC (Secure Mode & AccurateRip)->FLAC (ReplayGain)->SB3->Yamaha RX-595->Cambridge Soundworks Ensemble audio53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5576 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36982 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrading the Power Supply
Ashy72;215827 Wrote: > I recieved my farnell CPC (PW00187) today i am very impressed with the > upgrade in sound quality particularly a more rounded bass, more mellow > sound less harsh than before. Even the top end sounds better with the > lyrics. I cant wait till next week if there is more improvement with > use! I cut off the interchangeable connection and soldered a proper > 2.5mm/5.5 connector on the end so as not to have any mishaps with > reverse polarity if the plug ends get removed. Although when i received > it i realised this probably wouldnt happen as the connector fits quite > tightly. All in all this was money well spent. I received my Farnell (the 230V equivalent) yesterday. I have problem determining which side of the output socket is +/-. The two output wires are coded black and black/white. Can somebody help. Thanks. M Tan -- mtan002 mtan002's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
tyler_durden;215959 Wrote: > I like "as bittersweet as bittersweet can be" from Cameo. They were > talking about a woman, but woman, amplifier, what's the difference? > > TD You can unplug an amplifier -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
Pat Farrell;215942 Wrote: > > > > "It's a quiet, unassuming little amp, with a cinnamony finish and > > raspberry overtones- never offensive, and sometimes a bit too > polite". > > [not HIS quote, mine]... > > This is good, as are the "too much chocolate" > > But the best is his "more yin than yang" > I can almost imagine what ice cream with too much chocolate would taste > > like, but I have no idea which is the yin and which is the yang. > > -- > Pat > http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html I like "as bittersweet as bittersweet can be" from Cameo. They were talking about a woman, but woman, amplifier, what's the difference? TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
tomjtx wrote: > Wasn't yin and yang (in audio) 1st coined by Harry Pearson. Oh, it could be. > But, hot air is hot air :-) I tend to lump pompous, arrogant together. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
Wasn't yin and yang (in audio) 1st coined by Harry Pearson. HP is one of the most pompous, arrogant creatures one is likely to run across. He thinks an obtuse , convoluted writing style makes him sound more intelligent, But, hot air is hot air :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
omega;215934 Wrote: > > I Think there's something wrong with the recording process, I end up > with the same using SB3 Or CD player. Unfortunately if the laptop _only_ accepts MIC in, and there is no option to change it to line in, then you are going to get extremely bad distortion from overdriving the input. This is a decent product that you can use to get line in to a laptop: http://www.xitel.com/USA/prod_inportdl.htm -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
-seanadams Thanks for the tip & Web Link. I will talk to "Hammer" he also have a "laptop" and "Desktop" We can try his computers and see how things sounds. Best Regards! /Mats :-) -- omega omega's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
tyler_durden wrote: > Robert Harley was the marketing "genius" who came up with the idea of > applying the same BS, anthropomorphic terms used to describe/market > wine to audio equipment. He singlehandedly invented the audio > snake-oil industry. But never a measurement in his magazine. > "It's a quiet, unassuming little amp, with a cinnamony finish and > raspberry overtones- never offensive, and sometimes a bit too polite". > [not HIS quote, mine]... This is good, as are the "too much chocolate" But the best is his "more yin than yang" I can almost imagine what ice cream with too much chocolate would taste like, but I have no idea which is the yin and which is the yang. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRC/Inguz and Microphone Calibration
tingtong5 wrote: > > The amount of deviation from the ecm8000 response claimed by Behringer > is so high that if this is really true this means this mic is totally > useless without calibration. The graph posted above is not too dissimilar to another ecm8000 calibration posted here: http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/bfd-rew-forum/314-professional-mic-calibration.html > Another conclusion would be the using the drc ecm8000.txt is useless > as well.. The drc curve does seem to be inconsistent here. It is considerably flatter than any of these other calibrations up to 10kHz, and is even flatter than the ecm8000 data sheet at http://www.behringerdownload.de/ECM8000/ECM8000_C_Specs.pdf Also the drc curve drops off above 10kHz, and is 3db down at 18kHz. You dont see that in any of the other graphs. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
wow...reading through this thread makes me glad I'm not an "audiophile" ! -- clickhand clickhand's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12431 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
tingtong5;215905 Wrote: > I can recommend it as well (got a copy myself). Robert Harley was the marketing "genius" who came up with the idea of applying the same BS, anthropomorphic terms used to describe/market wine to audio equipment. He singlehandedly invented the audio snake-oil industry. "It's a quiet, unassuming little amp, with a cinnamony finish and raspberry overtones- never offensive, and sometimes a bit too polite". [not HIS quote, mine]... Yeah, sure, you betcha! That's the guy I want telling me what to think about audio! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
-opaqueice Hi Again! Quote: "You might try the laptop - even if it's mono you can just record one channel." Not good i have only "mic in" the signal gets distroted how matter i set signal level. Quote: "Also just as a test, try taking the difference of two identical files (like two copies of the same recording) and make sure you get silence." Works ok :-) "silence" ! so audiodiffmaker is working ok! Quote: "You do have the option in audiodiffmaker checked that time-aligns the recordings before taking the difference, right?" I run with "Default" time-aligns settings. "Difference Extraction" Time Aligment Delay Capacity = 15 % Delay resolution = 20n [SEC] GAIN all settings Default.. Is there some other settings? I Think there's something wrong with the recording process, I end up with the same using SB3 Or CD player. Both can´t be broken. Best Regards! /Mats :-) -- omega omega's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
omega;215919 Wrote: > > But i always get a audible "difference wave" (A-B) how matter i do. Hmmm... I tried this with three different recording techniques - into my laptop's line-in, into my windows desktop's line-in, and using a Tascam USB microphone interface I have. None of those recordings exhibited the problem you're having - in all cases there was some noise in the difference file, but it was quiet, had a pretty white spectrum, and just sounded like static (except for the Tascam which was introducing some high-frequency crap for some reason). You might try the laptop - even if it's mono you can just record one channel. Not ideal, but might be quieter (for me the laptop made the least noisy recording). You do have the option in audiodiffmaker checked that time-aligns the recordings before taking the difference, right? Also just as a test, try taking the difference of two identical files (like two copies of the same recording) and make sure you get silence. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
ezkcdude;215922 Wrote: > Omega (Mats), I would not start with music. Instead, I suggest using a > standard 1 kHz wav file (either from the CD player or Squeezebox). > Using this "fixed" frequency, you may be able to hear some pattern > (harmonics, etc) in the diff file. With music, I'm afraid the signal is > too complicated to hear a real difference. Why not use music? If I understood his post, he IS hearing a difference even when both files are recordings of the same track from his CD player. So there's something wrong with either audiodiffmaker, the recording process, or his CD player. That has to get sorted out first. The selection I used in my recordings was music - it was a piano and cello concerto - and the difference file was just very low level white noise. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
omega;215919 Wrote: > -opaqueice > > Hi! > > I have installed Audacity & audiodiffmaker today and started some > testing. > > My Laptop only have a Mono-Mic in, so a tested on my "Slimserver PC" > > I wanted to learn & Test Audacity and audiodiffmaker before i began > testing on the SB3 & DAC. > > I connected my NAD CD player to the line in on the Soundcard. > Started testing with a Music Audio CD. > > But i always get a audible "difference wave" (A-B) how matter i do. > > > I have tripple checked all settings Line in levels etc, and i start > recording as careful i can be. > (Same start point pressing "rec" in the programs and "Play" on the CD > player. > > But i end up with the "same" diff file how matter i do. > > I tried to record both from audiodiffmaker and Audacity but the same > result. > > The diff file is almost quiet but i can hear the track/song very very > very weak. > (I can follow & recognize the song easy) > > And i pickup "much" interference from the PC, Fan noise etc. > > I tried the SB3 analog output for a test run but there is the same > "strange" diff file there to. > > I think i need som better soundcard that is 100% quiet and have a > S/PDIF in for this test? > > But why this diff file ? i shall be quiet? i don´t change anything > during the A and B recordings. > > And this test must be quiet "during tuning", otherwise it´s useless to > go on with this. > > Do you have some tips regarding this? > > > Best Regards! > > /Mats :-) Omega (Mats), I would not start with music. Instead, I suggest using a standard 1 kHz wav file (either from the CD player or Squeezebox). Using this "fixed" frequency, you may be able to hear some pattern (harmonics, etc) in the diff file. With music, I'm afraid the signal is too complicated to hear a real difference. -- ezkcdude There are 10 kind of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't. SHINYMETAL '*Site*' (http://www.ezdiyaudio.com)| '*RSS*' (http://www2.kumc.edu/students/ezamir/rss/ezdiyaudio.xml) |'*Forum*' (http://ezdiyaudio.informe.com) ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
-opaqueice Hi! I have installed Audacity & audiodiffmaker today and started some testing. My Laptop only have a Mono-Mic in, so a tested on my "Slimserver PC" I wanted to learn & Test Audacity and audiodiffmaker before i began testing on the SB3 & DAC. I connected my NAD CD player to the line in on the Soundcard. Started testing with a Music Audio CD. But i always get a audible "difference wave" (A-B) how matter i do. I have tripple checked all settings Line in levels etc, and i start recording as careful i can be. (Same start point pressing "rec" in the programs and "Play" on the CD player. But i end up with the "same" diff file how matter i do. I tried to record both from audiodiffmaker and Audacity but the same result. The diff file is almost quiet but i can hear the track/song very very very weak. (I can follow & recognize the song easy) And i pickup "much" interference from the PC, Fan noise etc. I tried the SB3 analog output for a test run but there is the same "strange" diff file there to. I think i need som better soundcard that is 100% quiet and have a S/PDIF in for this test? But why this diff file ? i shall be quiet? i don´t change anything during the A and B recordings. And this test must be quiet "during tuning", otherwise it´s useless to go on with this. Do you have some tips regarding this? Best Regards! /Mats :-) -- omega omega's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
PhilNYC;215410 Wrote: > "The Complete Guide To High End Audio" by Robert Harley is considered by > many to be the best book on high end audio > > http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Guide-High-End-Audio/dp/0964084953/ref=sr_1_1/104-7016275-9578350?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184763958&sr=1-1 I can recommend it as well (got a copy myself). -- tingtong5 tingtong5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9671 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
"crystal" with the also ridiculously fat light blue jacket. reviews - http://www.audioreview.com/cat/cables/speaker-cables/audioquest/PRD_116396_1584crx.aspx I was fairly content with the sound, but hated the appearance, and the weight and stiffness of the cables often caused the bananas to pull out of the poweramp. Similar, if not the same dimensions - http://69.30.211.33/images/products/aqclear.1.jpg -- alZmtbr alZmtbr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The reason for the dirty fight???!
Hi, @ Tom : Isalon is not too far away... How will you be getting there. Will you rent a car? Because it is not easyly reached by trains. Well, it is not out of the world thogh. Bring a transporter with you! I'll pay the extra if they charge you on the plain for bagage. :) Thank you for the hint in Isalon. You are working at Slimdevices or why are you such a pationate defender of their products? ;)) @ Harmonic : Thanks again. That enlightens a lot. You say the signal is only made into analogue if passed to the speakers. Doesn't it just swap the problem? Well, it shortens the analogue chain and therefore the potential source for induction of electrical noise I guess. Bye Jeronimo -- jaysung jaysung's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12375 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36950 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRC/Inguz and Microphone Calibration
tingtong5 wrote: > Maybe a little off-topic but I measured the frequency response (from > 10-20KHz) of my two mic pre-amps: > - Behringer Tube Ultra Gain Mic 100 > - Behringer UB802 Looks like proof to me that tubes act as tone controls. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
alZmtbr;215823 Wrote: > ...put the old garden hose audioquest back in. Gonna cut the kimber in > half, re-terminate. Then bi-wire, bi-amp - just for 'fun'. > > Cheers! > Allan Was it by chance, the ridiculously fat "Audio Quest Clear" with the navy blue jackets? I've got a pair of that stuff. I think you could moor an aircraft carrier with it ;-) -- Videodrome Two-channel System: SB3, into Musiland MD-10 DAC; Outlaw 970 Pre/Pro; McCormack DNA-125 amplifier; Quad 11L speakers; Sota Sapphire ttbl. w/ Grado Ref. Platinum Cart. into Rolls Bellari VP-129 tube phono stage; Marantz 10b; Nakamichi RX505; Cables Used: DH Labs, Van den Hul, Distech, Monster, many more. Videodrome's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11727 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRC/Inguz and Microphone Calibration
Maybe a little off-topic but I measured the frequency response (from 10-20KHz) of my two mic pre-amps: - Behringer Tube Ultra Gain Mic 100 - Behringer UB802 +---+ |Filename: mic100-vs-ub802.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3062| +---+ -- tingtong5 tingtong5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9671 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36716 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrading the Power Supply
Heuer;86577 Wrote: > Good to hear you have found a plug 'n play linear PSU that delivers the > desired results. I wholeheartedly echo your comments regarding the > change in sound for the better a linear supply makes. I even found it > improved further as the first week's use went on. I recieved my farnell CPC (PW00187) today i am very impressed with the upgrade in sound quality particularly a more rounded bass, more mellow sound less harsh than before. Even the top end sounds better with the lyrics. I cant wait till next week if there is more improvement with use! I cut off the interchangeable connection and soldered a proper 2.5mm/5.5 connector on the end so as not to have any mishaps with reverse polarity if the plug ends get removed. Although when i received it i realised this probably wouldnt happen as the connector fits quite tightly. -- Ashy72 Ashy72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile wanna-be
tyler_durden edited his original post from "crank" to "meth" With 5 functioning bicycles and 2 non-rideable, and with wifey's 2 cycles, I can say we are "crank" addicts, but not too 'pedantic' about it. The velo-habit also competes with the winter season ski-habit (3 pairs of downhill skis and 'many' XC ski's). So when at home I mainly just listen to the music, not tweak the gear. Tho last night it was raining, so swapped out the kimber speaker cable and put the old garden hose audioquest back in. Gonna cut the kimber in half, re-terminate. Then bi-wire, bi-amp - just for 'fun'. Cheers! Allan -- alZmtbr alZmtbr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36907 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRC/Inguz and Microphone Calibration
Doing RC with an uncalibrated mic is much better than no RC - but not as good as it should be! Even rather expensive mics need calibrating for this purpose if you want the best possible results. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36716 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which Interconnect Cable??
Just go out and buy yourself some Belden 1800F cable, add decent XLR or RCA connectors and you've got all you need. -- egd http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_transporter.html? >> http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/shopbycable/1800F.htm >> http://www.atc.gb.net/homeamplifier/sca2.html >> http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/shopbycable/1800F.htm >> http://www.atc.gb.net/domestic/scm100slat.html egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36667 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DRC/Inguz and Microphone Calibration
The amount of deviation from the ecm8000 response claimed by Behringer is so high that if this is really true this means this mic is totally useless without calibration. Another conclusion would be the using the drc ecm8000.txt is useless as well.. Actually proper room correction would not be possible with this mic (without calibration). I'm not saying that it is not true what you are telling here, but I do find this whole thing very very weird.. Apart from this calibration story, I was already asking myself if using ecm8000.txt from drc is a good idea or not.. I suppose someone measured one ecm8000 mic which does not mean is it valid for all of them.. -- tingtong5 tingtong5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9671 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36716 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The reason for the dirty fight???!
harmonic;215724 Wrote: > Have you tried i disconnecting it completly ? That's exactly what I meant - the system sounds the same with or without the TACT (in "RC off" mode) physically connected bewteen SB and Altmann JISCO/UPCI/DAC. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36950 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The reason for the dirty fight???!
jaysung;215734 Wrote: > Hi, > Thank you Harmonic for your explanation. Than my tiny little no idea > about hifi world is secure again I presume. ;) I agree with you. You > never got answer if the person actually tried the transporter as a > digital transport only. > I have two serious questions then: > 1. What sort of amp is it, that you don't use transporter's analogue > stage if you actually have nothing to critisize about it's sound? How > much is such an amp? Or is it just setup determined? > 2. How can such a difference occur in a digital only setup. Your amp is > doing the dac work right? Shouldn't a digital signal be a digital > signal? Or am I just a newb? > Yes I am! But perhaps you could share some ideas? > @ Phil : No I do only visit forums if I really want to learn something > very straight foreward. Time is rare and forums are often very complex > for speech outputs and braille displays. > What did you mean with your comment about people hearing what they want > to hear? > @ Tommy : I live in Germany and subsequently can not really listen to > the tp prior to buying one. So I try to get a glimpse of how the > community thinks about it. > Cheers > Jeronimo Hi Jeronimo The main amps i use is a tact millennium mk3 there is also lyngdorf audio wich are basicly the same kind of tech this amps are 100% digital amps the signal stays digital until the speaker terminals. You can read about thise fantastic amps on the net . clememt perry reviewed the tact 2150 in stereotimes that review gives a good insight in the tech behind thise amps. When you use thise amps the only uses the 1-0 or the source. To answer you questian why such differnece namly glare can happen in the digital domain is a interresting questian. Even if the signal is bit perfect all that goes right out the windov when you intruduse noise. What aberdeen components exactly have done besides swapping parts and installing a line conditioner i dont no but it clearly removed the high frq glare and smoother sound. As a transport only the stock one sounds pretty good but my experice with getting things moddified also refelcts the transporter mod and that is you here the glare and edgynes most when its gone. And when you connect the org player again you are chocked that you had been listnig to this all along. Nothing like cables where to me its all most impossible to conclued somthing is better. The amp i use my transporter on besides my tact digital amp where a icepower amp i borrowed and nuforce ref 9 se v2 amps , and a NAD amp. Here i just used the transporetr as source and preamp and the sound was just right. As a beleiver off the english school meanning that the source is the most important part in a system i can wholehardely recormendt the transporter . with all thise amps it sounded damm good. For amp recormendation i will say ether a full mod tact amp from aberdeen components or linn amps. regards -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36950 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
