Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread tyler_durden

Balanced I/O is best for very long cable runs.  It is unlikely you'd
hear any difference between a balanced and an unbalanced run if it is
only 1m long.  

Save your money.  Moving your speakers 6" will have a bigger effect on
the sound than spending money on expensive/balanced cables.

TD


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What speakers should I get?

2007-08-07 Thread haunyack

GlennT;219568 Wrote: 
> I don't consider myself an audiophile, but even I believe I didn't spend
> enough time auditioning speakers when I made my purchases.  I just
> couldn't wait any longer, and I'm still very happy with my decision. 
> The two shops I spent most of my time in were very accommodating and
> let me sit and "soak" it all in.  My decision was slightly complicated
> by the fact that these were for a dual task rig for music and HT
> purposes, and I had a Paradigm CC-270 center that I bought with very
> little auditioning, but wanted to match.  I even brought my center in
> for comparisons.
> 
> At any rate, I ended up with Paradigm Monitor 7 floorstanders v4.  For
> my novice ears, they do good justice to good music, while having good
> range for movies.  They're certainly good enough that I can find faults
> I hadn't previously heard and breath life into music where I never
> realized I was missing anything.  The Studio 20 bookshelves would have
> been just $100 or so more.  My uncle has those, and they sound
> absolutely fantastic.  Besides the fact that I really wanted
> floorstanders (looks + cats + curious newborn), they were just out of
> my budget and I decided the 7s would be better for movies.  My amp for
> my sub died 6 months ago, and even I often forget it's missing at times
> (music has always sounded better without it).  But, the 20's are
> certainly worth looking into if you can afford it.  My uncle's are on
> his dedicated 2 channel rig, without a sub, and he LOVES it.
> 
> FYI, I'm running a Yamaha RX-V1300 behind those towers.
> 
> Also, see if your dealer will allow you to take speakers home to
> audition, once you've narrowed down your options of course.  If not,
> find out about their return policy.  I believe most are pretty
> forgiving, but once you buy from them, either their policy or your
> conscious may dictate that your money stay there.  My 7s sounded
> completely different in our home, and were a little bright until I
> found an arrangement (both the speakers and the furniture in the entire
> room) that gave satisfactory results.  That's a huge plus for Axiom,
> though shipping is often a killer.

You might reconsider using a sub with your HT application as some of
todays movie scores and especially added sound effects can be hard
(even to the point of damage) on speakers designed for 2 channel
listening.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice to improve Sound.

2007-08-07 Thread darrenyeats

HerculePirate;219054 Wrote: 
> Darren Yeats,
> wonders that you have heard the Amaya's, What is your view on the
> Amaya's
> Do you think its the speaker that is a problem. Cause what i saw
> missing was midrange guitar...the distorted guitar just didnt show
> which showed on my mediocre setup.
> I suspect that  if I replace the Mediocre setup Speaker into my high
> end set up I still wont hear that guitar crunch.
> I am definitely agree that I am definitley not getting that rocking
> punch but the mid freq not being there?
> Valveshmm...the sound stage being too far behind...that is a
> concern...if there is a valve amp that gives me an upfront soundstage I
> would be happy..is There?
> Thanks
> Alwyn

Alwyn,
Sorry I've been out of the loop a bit. I can't really answer your
question about the guitar "crunch". All I can say is that the
Krell+Amayas were a bit forward and not warm enough...and you could say
"constricted". The Audion Silver Nights seemed to let the Cadences sound
more "free-breathing" (and balanced) throughout *all* the frequencies.
It's weird, but this is the magic of valves (with SOME speakers!).

I can't see how the soundstage is not forward enough if your 400xi is
anything like a KAV-300i. Sounds like you could become a future Naim
fiend?

I would think three times before getting rid of the Cadences. Better to
audition (beg, borrow or steal) some other amps first.

Try some powerful valves! If I were you, I wouldn't spend any more
money until I could audition my way into understanding the problem
better. Also play with rooms and speaker placement as others have
advised.

At the end of the day, your preferences may be different to mine, I can
only report my own experience, based on my tastes.

Murph, Videodrome,
Couldn't agree more about the loudness war. Absolute madness when you
consider most artists would like their art to live on indefinitely and
mainstream replay equipment will eventually get very good.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread egd

I second opaqueice's & Pat's recommendations.  I own a Transporter and
had XLR cables made using Belden 1800F cable with Neutrik connectors
incl. gold-plated pins.  Couldn't be happier and it didn't cost
anywhere near that typically charged in the audiofool category.  In
fact after being offered $700+ Chord interconnects I offered to buy
them if the store owner could detect which interconnects I was using on
his equipment, but countered that he would have to give them to me if he
couldn't.  No prizes for guessing he didn't put his money where his
mouth was.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread jaysung

Hi Guys,
so, you seem to agree. The calculator on the above referred web site
says that two cables about 3 foot long will set me back $50 or $60.
Which should be less in Euro. If I buy them here.
That puts things into perspective a bit. ;))


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread Deaf Cat

Best to see if you can borrow a couple of different cables, and see for
your self if you prefer one to another :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How is Audiodiffmaker meant to work?

2007-08-07 Thread ermine

opaqueice;219539 Wrote: 
>  And there's also the ADC clock - maybe that drifts for some reason?

The ADC clock will drift relative to the playout clock, even assuming
the playout is jitterless. Replay clock is presumably determined by the
SB1 or the server PC. However, I have used three independent ADC clocks
made by widely differing manufacturers - Sound Devices, Toshiba (for
the laptop) and Sony for the HiMD. They can't *all* be bad. It is, of
course, possible that the SB1 DAC clock is a ropey PLL and it drifts
and audiodiffmaker is correctly showing that temporal variation, in a
similar vein to Omega's claims - it would be
interesting to hit his SB3 with this program, I begin to wonder if the
result may not actually be what you might expect...

I recorded a 30s chunk, played out at 44k1. That means 1.3 million
samples. 'This' (http://www.springerlink.com/content/q257543588327v45/)
indicates the short-term stability of crystals is about 1 part in 10^9
but I don't know if that holds for stock parts. If it did I'd not
expect to drift more than 1/1000 of a sampling period though I've had
enough radio xtals that your could hear in a FM receiver if you ping
the xtal with a screwdriver so they are vibration (music perhaps :)
sensitive to some extent.

It is true that th SB1 is the common element here and maybe I got a
Friday afternoon box. I'll repeat on some other piece of digital audio
gear to eliminate that last common variable.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What speakers should I get?

2007-08-07 Thread TiredLegs

macattack;217484 Wrote: 
> hope to find something which makes my jaw drop
Just be aware that sometimes speakers which make your jaw drop are
tedious to listen to for hours on end.

Personally, I prefer speakers which sound as natural as possible. They
won't necessarily impress your average houseguest as "Wow!" speakers,
but if a real audiophile sits down and listens to them for a while,
they'll be suitably impressed.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What speakers should I get?

2007-08-07 Thread GlennT

I don't consider myself an audiophile, but even I believe I didn't spend
enough time auditioning speakers when I made my purchases.  I just
couldn't wait any longer, and I'm still very happy with my decision. 
The two shops I spent most of my time in were very accommodating and
let me sit and "soak" it all in.  My decision was slightly complicated
by the fact that these were for a dual task rig for music and HT
purposes, and I had a Paradigm CC-270 center that I bought with very
little auditioning, but wanted to match.  I even brought my center in
for comparisons.

At any rate, I ended up with Paradigm Monitor 7 floorstanders v4.  For
my novice ears, they do good justice to good music, while having good
range for movies.  They're certainly good enough that I can find faults
I hadn't previously heard and breath life into music where I never
realized I was missing anything.  The Studio 20 bookshelves would have
been just $100 or so more.  My uncle has those, and they sound
absolutely fantastic.  Besides the fact that I really wanted
floorstanders (looks + cats + curious newborn), they were just out of
my budget and I decided the 7s would be better for movies.  My amp for
my sub died 6 months ago, and even I often forget it's missing at times
(music has always sounded better without it).  But, the 20's are
certainly worth looking into if you can afford it.  My uncle's are on
his dedicated 2 channel rig, without a sub, and he LOVES it.

FYI, I'm running a Yamaha RX-V1300 behind those towers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What speakers should I get?

2007-08-07 Thread Pat Farrell
Murph wrote:
> Takes the ominous part out of buying something unheard.

Listen to Murph.
Never buy speakers unheard.
Better, listen to them for a week.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What speakers should I get?

2007-08-07 Thread Murph

I don't normally like to promote brands in forums but I noticed you said
you don't live near a lot of audio shops.

Axiom is an online only company known for their excellent speakers, and
truly outstanding customer service.  Since Paradigm has already been
referenced I'll mention that their floor standers, M60s and M80s are
often compared to Paradigm's top Studio series but will cost you less. 
What made me break my rule for you is that they will talk to you about
your requirements, recommend some models and they will let you listen
to them for 30 days and if you don't like them, you can ship them back.
Takes the ominous part out of buying something unheard.

Their forums list people all over who are willing to do demos, because
I really do recommend you listen to a speaker before buying.  You may
see someone in your area.  That being said, I'd be willing to bet you
would never ship them back once you heard them. 

I'm not going to say they are the best or that they are better than A
or B.  But I will say I am extremely happy with mine and trying them
for 30 days suits your situation where you are not near any major
shops.  There are lots of articles and reviews if you search for them
as you shouldn't take my word for it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread Pat Farrell
jaysung wrote:
> easily spend 270 Euro on balanced cables. I think it a bit odd to spend
> as much on two 100cm cables as a SB3 costs. 
> What do you think and which cables can you recommend and why ?

There is no need to spend megaEuros.
Standard microphone cables work fine.

You should be able to find some about $20 a meter.
Which is also about 20 Euro per meter.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread opaqueice

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/balancedaudio/index.htm


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XLR-cables ? How much ? Voodoo ?

2007-08-07 Thread jaysung

Hi,
I am until now a quite happy new owner of a transporter. My amp is
Marantz PM-11S1 having xlr/symmetric inputs. I heard now that one can
easily spend 270 Euro on balanced cables. I think it a bit odd to spend
as much on two 100cm cables as a SB3 costs. 
What do you think and which cables can you recommend and why ?
The recommendation was Wireworld cables. Anyone heard of them?
For understanding:
As far as I know XLR-cables are carrying two signals being exactly
phase inverted or opposite amplitude. So if a distortion occurs both
signals are being manipulated and the difference is being maintained
exactly the same. So one needs not really fear signal distortion by any
sort of inductive electromagnetics? And that is my microphones are wired
over long distances with symmetric cables. Is that right?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How is Audiodiffmaker meant to work?

2007-08-07 Thread opaqueice

It must have been an interesting challenge trying to write that.  It
sounds like fun.

Could it be such a gradual drift that explains ermine's results?  He
used the same source (an SB1) each time, and still found a non-zero
difference file, but with a partial null partway in.  So if the clock
rate of the SB1 was slightly different on the two recording sessions,
that might account for his results.  Seems odd, but maybe it's
possible.  And there's also the ADC clock - maybe that drifts for some
reason?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice to improve Sound.

2007-08-07 Thread Videodrome

Murph;219532 Wrote: 
> There are lots of things you can do to improve sound systems andimprove
> room acoustics but there is also something that unfortunately you can't
> fix.  A bad engineered recording is simply a bad recording.
> 
> I can't say for sure, of course, that this is your issue but so many
> sound engineers are over equalizing their recordings.  It seemed to
> start in the 80s with the sudden popularity of boombox style stereos. 
> The effect of loudness was king on a recording at the expense of
> accuracy.
> 
> The sad fact is that when you invest in truly accurate sound equipment,
> it not only makes awesome recordings more awesome but it also presents
> to you the realities of poor recordings that you might not have heard
> before.  On less accurate systems like Big Box store speakers and MP3
> players, the sound is not being produced accurately so it is more
> 'forgiving' to poor recordings.  
> 
> This creates the irony that many CDs actually sound better on lower end
> sound equipment than they do on audiophile gear.  Same with MP3s.  You
> may find that your compressed music that used to sound great on your
> MP3 player, now sounds crappy on your expensive speakers.  Kind of a
> conundrum because you can now hear what is not there.  
> 
> I'm no audiophile, golden ear myself but here are two CDs I use to
> demonstrate this which will be obvious to anyone..
> 
> Evanesence - Fallen
> Dire Straights - Brothers in Arms.
> 
> Play both CDs on an average sound system or MP3 player.  Odds are that
> Dire Straights will sound a bit better, because it is.  It is one of
> the better engineered CDs out there.  Evanescence will still sound very
> good.  The cutting edge vocals blast into your ears as do the hard
> hitting riffs.  Both have very dramatic sounds in many songs.  That's
> why I chose them.
> 
> Now, if you have access to such, play both on a much more accurate
> system.  Doesn't have to be in the 10s of thousands of dollars range. 
> Just speakers know for their 'proven' accuracy and flat frequency
> response.
> 
> Now if the speakers are set up well, Brothers in Arms suddenly becomes
> simply amazing.  You don't just hear clarity in stereo but a whole
> virtual sound stage opens around you.  You hear notes and noises you
> didn't even know existed in the music.
> 
> Play Evanescence and very quickly, disappointment sets in.  Amy Lee's
> powerful vocals should be stunning but they are not.  They are blandly
> mixed in with the rest of  the instrument noises.  What should be
> emotional peaks in the music now all sound the same.  It's like every
> sound is blended together at exactly the same level.. because it
> is.  You turn it louder to make it sound better but it just leads to
> more disappointment. 
> 
> If you turned them into MP3s, it gets even worse.  Highs become lost or
> tinny, lows become feint or fuzzy.   Being able to concentrate on any
> particular instrument that is not forefront becomes difficult.
> 
> Anyways, my apologies for the long rant.  I'm not disagreeing with the
> other posters at all, just taking this opportunity to flame sound
> engineers who fell into the 'loudness' trap and are making recordings
> that punish those of us who are able to hear how they truly recorded
> it.
> 
> It might also explain why your more 'neutral' speakers are making this
> CD sound worse than the speakers your higher end speakers.

Murph:  That wasn't a rant, that was a very good explanation! 
Regarding the quest for loudness on CDs, somehwere (I don't recall if
it was on these forums), was an interesting link to a Youtube video
that showed the effects of compression on CDs.  The negative impact it
had on dynamics was pretty dramatic.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice to improve Sound.

2007-08-07 Thread Murph

There are lots of things you can do to improve sound systems andimprove
room acoustics but there is also something that unfortunately you can't
fix.  A bad engineered recording is simply a bad recording.

I can't say for sure, of course, that this is your issue but so many
sound engineers are over equalizing their recordings.  It seemed to
start in the 80s with the sudden popularity of boombox style stereos. 
The effect of loudness was king on a recording at the expense of
accuracy.

The sad fact is that when you invest in truly accurate sound equipment,
it not only makes awesome recordings more awesome but it also presents
to you the realities of poor recordings that you might not have heard
before.  On less accurate systems like Big Box store speakers and MP3
players, the sound is not being produced accurately so it is more
'forgiving' to poor recordings.  

This creates the irony that many CDs actually sound better on lower end
sound equipment than they do on audiophile gear.  Same with MP3s.  You
may find that your compressed music that used to sound great on your
MP3 player, now sounds crappy on your expensive speakers.  Kind of a
conundrum because you can now hear what is not there.  

I'm no audiophile, golden ear myself but here are two CDs I use to
demonstrate this which will be obvious to anyone..

Evanesence - Fallen
Dire Straights - Brothers in Arms.

Play both CDs on an average sound system or MP3 player.  Odds are that
Dire Straights will sound a bit better, because it is.  It is one of
the better engineered CDs out there.  Evanescence will still sound very
good.  The cutting edge vocals blast into your ears as do the hard
hitting riffs.  Both have very dramatic sounds in many songs.  That's
why I chose them.

Now, if you have access to such, play both on a much more accurate
system.  Doesn't have to be in the 10s of thousands of dollars range. 
Just speakers know for their 'proven' accuracy and flat frequency
response.

Now if the speakers are set up well, Brothers in Arms suddenly becomes
simply amazing.  You don't just hear clarity in stereo but a whole
virtual sound stage opens around you.  You hear notes and noises you
didn't even know existed in the music.

Play Evanescence and very quickly, disappointment sets in.  Amy Lee's
powerful vocals should be stunning but they are not.  They are blandly
mixed in with the rest of  the instrument noises.  What should be
emotional peaks in the music now all sound the same.  It's like every
sound is blended together at exactly the same level.. because it
is.  You turn it louder to make it sound better but it just leads to
more disappointment. 

If you turned them into MP3s, it gets even worse.  Highs become lost or
tinny, lows become feint or fuzzy.   Being able to concentrate on any
particular instrument that is not forefront becomes difficult.

Anyways, my apologies for the long rant.  I'm not disagreeing with the
other posters at all, just taking this opportunity to flame sound
engineers who fell into the 'loudness' trap and are making recordings
that punish those of us who are able to hear how they truly recorded
it.

It might also explain why your more 'neutral' speakers are making this
CD sound worse than the speakers your higher end speakers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How is Audiodiffmaker meant to work?

2007-08-07 Thread kgoulet

I tried a few years ago to write an application similar to audio
diffmaker.  It's open source http://wavm.sf.net   There is even an
example of a redigitized signal compared to the source .wav file.  The
application is not complete, but it shows that:
- there's noise but it could be from the CD player (an old Sony car
discman) or from the on-board A/D converter.
- there is a gradual drift over time because I did not have a dynamic
realignment where I readjust the alignment over time to account for CD
player system clock error and A/D converter clock error.

So there is the key problem: how to do the alignment:
a) plain cross correlate only in time domain?  This may weight the
alignment more towards the larger amplitude low frequencies.
b) Pick a few frequncies and monitor the phase between them?
c) how to warp the time domains to minimize the error.
d) how to cancel out common mode noise (common between the two sources)
like 60/50Hz hum.  This part can make the error appear to be larger than
it is.

If you use a single frequency, you may get more clues. (
http://wavb.sf.net is a utility for signle tone .wav files ).

And //wava.sf.net does  word by word compare between wav files.

Audio diff does not appear to be open source, but working with single
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-08-07 Thread haunyack


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johann;219457 Wrote: 
> You sarcasmes are totally uncalled for.
> 
> Are you familiar with microphonic effects at all?

My apologies...except for my Pro Jr. I am not a valve guy.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DTS plugin for transporter

2007-08-07 Thread Mark Lanctot

Heimiko;219432 Wrote: 
> Would it be possible for the TP to up-stream to slim-server from its
> digital input, have slimserver process whatever it wants to do (DSP /
> equalizing perhaps?) and then down-stream it again to the TP?

Ouch...you'd have to have a SlimServer in the Transporter.  It would
have to cache the stream and convert it to SlimProto packets.  Not easy
at all.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-08-07 Thread johann


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haunyack;219449 Wrote: 
> Uh-huh...
> all-righty-then.
> Shall we allow further discussion on the OP or contemplate the action
> of belly-button lint on the Quantum effect of sour milk...or grapes for
> that matter?
> 
> .

You sarcasmes are totally uncalled for.

Are you familiar with microphonic effects at all?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-08-07 Thread haunyack


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johann;219447 Wrote: 
> It's not about the electronics but the electronic components being
> affected by microphony, which they might be.
> IMHO, if they are, it's unhearable, at least for me.

Uh-huh.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-08-07 Thread johann


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haunyack;219436 Wrote: 
> Yea me too...I guess it has been suggested that the electron flow is
> susceptible to physical force.
> 
> I am skeptical that electrons traveling 299,792,458 m/s can be
> disturbed by a force travelling at 340.29 m/s 
> 
> 
> .

It's not about the electronics but the electronic components being
affected by microphony, which they might be.
IMHO, if they are, it's unhearable, at least for me.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Troubles

2007-08-07 Thread ermine

occam;219418 Wrote: 
> http://www.ewh.ieee.org/r6/san_francisco/pes/pes_pdf/PGE_Presentation_TransformerHum.pdf
> 
> The Creek amps were/are well known for their toroid transformers
> humming with the presence of an dc on mains lines (easily seen with a
> dual trace scope with both ac and dc coupling), and the elimination of
> such demonstably eliminates that hum -
> http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=104626&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

OK, it's a fair cop, there appear to be some situations where you do
get parasitic DC - I can't really argue with the PG&E article, though
their DC was on the 230kV HV side. Presumably 4A on that side counts
for more than 4A would on someone's long way downstream 110V side since
there are proportionally more turns to create a greater magnetic field.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-08-07 Thread haunyack


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Heimiko;219434 Wrote: 
> always thought decoupling was meant for CD transport, for anti-cd
> vibration etc, not for something being as "solid-state" as a TP.  
> i might have been wrong :-)

Yea me too...I guess it has been suggested that the electron flow is
susceptible to physical force.

I am skeptical that electrons traveling 299,792,458 m/s can be
disturbed by a force travelling at 340.29 m/s 


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How is Audiodiffmaker meant to work?

2007-08-07 Thread Patrick Dixon

opaqueice;219369 Wrote: 
> 
> In none of those cases did I get anything like what you're describing.

Ahh, but did you do it blind?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-08-07 Thread connorml


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Hello truckfighters and heimiko,

I had both before my Transporter. My old CD-Player sounds much better
with the Pyramid. The Granite has in my opinion few effect but it is
good-looking. I had not tested the Transporter without the Pyramide. I
will test it tomorrow evening.

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