[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wanted: Upgraded Power supply...welborne, CI Audio...

2007-11-12 Thread bearotti

Hello,

I am looking for an upgraded power supply.  Let me know if you have
something available!

Thanks,
Ben


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Re: speaker recomendations for approx �400

2007-11-12 Thread opaqueice

Mark Lanctot;242044 Wrote: 
> 
> I'd never buy speakers based on recommendations on an audio
> forum...speakers are highly subjective.  What I may love, you may hate.

That's very good advice.  

I recommend you burn a CD with well-recorded music you know very well. 
Listen to it at home before going out, and then audition a bunch of
speakers with it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How about digital active then?

2007-11-12 Thread opaqueice

You can buy one of these for ~$200:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHDCX2496

Feed it the SB digital signal and you'll get back six channels of
filtered output.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Adding some bass?

2007-11-12 Thread Toby Dickenson
Gibbo wrote:

> but i'm thinking cheap options, £100.
> 
> is it possible?

At that price, hmm, you could pay someone to slam your front door in time to
the music.

Or, to stretch the budget a little:
http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=645977


I hope that helps

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which "budget constrained" DAC for SB3?

2007-11-12 Thread bearotti

You want to "brighten" your sound and move the soundstage "in front" of
your speakersthis goes against every "audiophile" stands for IMO. 
If you want to simply brighen your sound try a set of Nordost Blue
Heaven interconnects...right around $120 a pair...these will brighten
your sound.  If you want bright sound in general, change to a pair of
b&w speakers...these are bright...as for DAC's, I have never found one
that was "Bright" but I have owned nearly a dozen at this point, and
none of them was less than $600, so maybe there are some but I have
never owned one.

Ben


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Adding some bass?

2007-11-12 Thread Gibbo

Ok, so thing is I want to make my system a little more enjoyable for
films, it doesn't really have that rumble that you sometimes need, I
have kef Q3's and a C320bee NAD amp. What can I do? and in very simple
terms, what would you plug and where? just want people opinions really,
I know this is audiophile country, but i'm thinking cheap options, <
£100.

is it possible?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Adding some bass?

2007-11-12 Thread Pat Farrell
Gibbo wrote:
> an active sub should have a speaker level in, that can connect to a
> speaker cable from the standard amp left and right outputs? how does
> this connect with the speakers that are also connected? series?
> parallel?

Depends on the specifics of the sub. On my REL stadium, the speaker 
level inputs are actually high impedance, so while the operate in 
parallel, they really don't load down the amp.

Other subs take the speaker level input and filter it, and send a high 
pass signal to the speakers. So they are essentially in series.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Adding some bass?

2007-11-12 Thread Gibbo

Cheers for the responses.

pretend I know nothing, as to be honest when it comes to this I don't
really, 

an active sub should have a speaker level in, that can connect to a
speaker cable from the standard amp left and right outputs? how does
this connect with the speakers that are also connected? series?
parallel?

thanks again.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-11-12 Thread SteveCresswell


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ezkcdude;241666 Wrote: 
> Steve, cool setup. Which Fostex drivers are you using? Some of them are
> actually made from banana pulp. (Seriously.)

I'm using the Fostex FE108EZ driver with Planet10 phase plugs.

The phase plugs tame a resonance at around 8KHz and make a positive
difference to the sound of the units. Why Fostex don't fit these as
standard is a mystery.

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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] For Sale: Complete Inguz EQ setup

2007-11-12 Thread CFP

Mods please delete this thread if for-sale ads are inappropriate.


For Sale is everything you need to begin Inguz EQing your system:

1. Lexicon Omega Desktop Recording Studio: Used 4-5 times total,
excellent condition and includes all original packaging/accessories.

2. 6 Foot Microphone XLR Cable from www.bluejeanscables.com

3. Behringer ECM8000 Condenser Microphone: Again, only used 4-5 times,
excellent condition

Looking for $218 (including shipping for continental USA) via Paypal.

Please PM me if interested.  Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How about digital active then?

2007-11-12 Thread krochat

adamslim;242212 Wrote: 
> ...the difficulty at the moment is the simple issue of syncing two SBs -
> it would have to be perfect.  However, if it's a one-box solution, it
> must be pretty easy.
> 

Yes, except you don't want them synch'ed - you have to be able to
adjust delay between drivers in each speaker and the left and right
speakers themselves. What you're describing is equivalent to a TacT RCS
2.2 mini, that costs $3k.

You can build your own convolver PC for maybe $1500 do do the same
thing. It would go after the SB3 and before the amps.

I think it's unrealistic to expect to stream 4 to 8 lossless channels
to 2 to 4 squeezebox equivalents (since my speakers aren't 2-way,
they're 4-way) and rely on unwritten free software to drive them.

Regards,
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How about digital active then?

2007-11-12 Thread seanadams

There is nothing that would make a source device able to do this any
better than an inline digital processor. AV receivers effectively do
this already. What did I miss?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi critric reveals their limited vision

2007-11-12 Thread morris_minor

darrenyeats;239282 Wrote: 
> David,
> To be fair, many people see fit to set up a home network and to manage
> their data without a music player coming into it. It's useful for many
> reasons. The SB3/Transporter is therefore able to tap into a large
> market of people who can use a set up they already have in one more
> way.
> 
> The basic point - that if you're not interested in computers a CD
> player is more appealing - I agree with.
> Darren

I have to reluctantly agree with this. I work in IT (well, web
management in an IT dept of a University) and have a home network with
a Mac and PC, and guest laptops, and a big NAS. My SB3 was running
within 5 minutes, and I knew about ripping and file formats (though not
FLAC  :0). Had I not had my previous knowledge, a wireless router - not
just an internet providers ADSL modem - the setup and bits I'd have
needed would have been quite daunting to contemplate.

Those of us with the knowledge, who've seen the future should not
expect too much of those who just love music played as simply as
possible.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How about digital active then?

2007-11-12 Thread adamslim

So do we really want the ultimate quality?  I reckon (shoot me down!)
that Slim Devices would not find it impossible to develop a 'paired
Squeezebox' solution that had more than one (different) digital output
for each channel - a high frequency and a low frequency one.  You then
feed each side through a stereo amp, and then to a two-way speaker. 
True digital active, a la Meridian.

With an Inguz-like system of EQ, it should not be beyond the realms of
possibility to match the levels and have a good digital crossover,
designed specifically for your own room.

The only difficulty at the moment is the simple issue of syncing two
SBs - it would have to be perfect.  However, if it's a one-box
solution, it must be pretty easy.

Only one display and wifi card, so surely it can all be done for under
$500 - I'd buy one for twice that!  What's not to love?

Thoughts and comments?

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Re: speaker recomendations for approx �400

2007-11-12 Thread iPhone

Fifer;242194 Wrote: 
> In my experience, that relationship can buy you far more than you will
> ever save  buying from the cheapest source. 
> 
> That's what I call service.

Great to hear you found a good dealer. I have a great one also. They
are hard to find, but once I do, I support them. I buy my magazines at
retail from them (gets me in the shoppe every month) as well as some
CDs and such monthly. I do buy a bunch of used gear and nobody stands
behind used gear like a great dealer. When I can not get it used and
just have to have it now, I pop for it with my Audio Dealer. I probably
could have shopped online or called an out of state dealer for a deal,
but if my dealer is going to be their to help me and more importantly
take in more high quality used gear, they have to keep their doors
open! Support your local Sheriff!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Adding some bass?

2007-11-12 Thread iPhone

If one were looking for extended low accurate bass that seamlessly mates
to main speakers for music listening (not Home Theater), a possible
suggestion would be any active sub that operates by becoming active
before the output to the mains. These subs have a huge advantage over
LFE, passive, or add-on subs.

The first and main advantage is they completely remove the low base
load from your main amplifier letting it concentrate on the highs,
midrange, and upper base. They blend seamlessly into the system and
sound like they are part of the mains. Volume is no longer an issue
because they behave as the mains do because they are receiving the same
signal sample as the mains just only the low end. It is basically like
somebody added a lower base driver inside your main speakers. Thiel and
Vandersteen 2Wq (the V2W is for HT LFE) active Sub-woofers are both good
examples. The ability to change the Q should be a function of the
subwoofer itself, not an item that affects the whole system. Why mess
with the source signal when the device that needs to be adjusted can be
tailored to the room?

Now for the downside, although these active subs work wonderfully with
full range speakers, they were not designed to add base to satellites
and most monitors. The reason is because satellites and most monitors
do not have enough bass extension to reach the area most subs operate
in. This issue causes a hole or at a minimum a deep valley in the bass
performance between where the monitors run out of gas and the sub takes
over. Which is why a sub will not fix the lack of bass authority in
satellites or most monitors. Speakers used with active subs need to
have reasonable response an octave below the crossover point to have
realistic blending (filter theory 101). Having a sub with a high upper
bass reach adds to the problem because the sub is now not operating in
its bandpass and will be to weak (probably 6dB) and muddy. The primary
problem being that the more bass extension the mains lack the wider
(hence higher up in bass frequency) the required octave overlap becomes
(one octave at 50Hz {25Hz down and 100Hz up} is a much smaller range
then one octave at 200Hz {100Hz dn and 400Hz up}). As an example if one
targets the crossover frequency at 50Hz, ones mains need to
realistically go below 25Hz. 80Hz is my preferred cross-over point with
active subwoofers. I have a choice of many full range speakers that
start running out of bass gas below 40Hz and the sub never has any work
load above 150Hz staying well away from the 200Hz mud zone and yields
actual bass response down below 20Hz.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Music streaming, Video Display option with Squeezebox, network storage

2007-11-12 Thread tyler_durden

I can't wait to see the posts about the headaches and brain cancer
caused by having wi-fi headphones!  Such a product will really bring
out the aluminum foil hat crowd!

TD


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Re: speaker recomendations for approx �400

2007-11-12 Thread Fifer

bigfool1956;242169 Wrote: 
> Another point I would like to add to is the one about using a hifi
> dealer for auditions with no intention to buy. This is something that
> happens to every hifi dealer, especially for items that can be bought
> over the net, or from some "pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap" merchant.
> Most of these guys are struggling to make a decent living, as people
> spend their cash on a wider and wider range of entertainment products,
> and less on music systems. 
> 
> Anyway if you feel you might get into hifi for the long term, then
> forging a relationship with a decent dealer can be very beneficial.

In my experience, that relationship can buy you far more than you will
ever save  buying from the cheapest source. 

My last purchase was just over a year ago and it wasn't a big spend in
audio terms - £1000 for an integrated amp and speakers. My dealer let
me take three amps and (eventually) four pairs of speakers to audition
at home over several weekends. When I decided on what I wanted, he
threw in decent (not cheap) speaker cables and interconnects and when
the amp failed (twice), on both occasions he lent me a replacement
whilst mine was returned to the manufacturer. Both times, the dealer
successfully pressed for the amp being replaced with a brand new model
(even managing to get me a change of colour as my black Transporter had
arrived in the interim). 

That's what I call service.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-11-12 Thread ted_b


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Club1820;242102 Wrote: 
> Do you have your transporter sitting on some sort of vibration reducing
> feet?

Yes I do.  Currently I use those whacko Final Dharma ones, but
Modwright has some interesting ones he showed at RMAF.  Although the
stock TP is non-rotating and likely not terribly prone to vibration
issues, the new tube section is what I'm trying to keep isolated.  

I'll post impressions once the new caps break in.  Dan had to do some
design changes that involved his proprietary caps due to the original
design overdriving the tube section.  He had voiced/developed it with
the digital volume down accidentally and didn't notice the issue.  It's
all good now.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Adding some bass?

2007-11-12 Thread Toby Dickenson
You should be able to connect any sub with a high level (speaker level)
input to your amp. Effectively the output of your main amp is the input to
the amp in the sub.

Ive been using a http://www.bkelec.com/HiFi/Sub_Woofers/XLS200.htm in a
similar set up for 9 months now and am very pleased. On slimserver we are
lucky to be able to use the Inguz EQ plugin to correct for room effects.
Will you be able to run this? Being able to use some form of EQ to correct
for room effects is essential to get the best out of any sub.



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Re: speaker recomendations for approx �400

2007-11-12 Thread bigfool1956

I must second what everyone else is saying here. Every speaker has a
distinct personality, and people react differently to the various
strengths and weaknesses of design.

There is no way I can tell you which speaker you will like or dislike,
based on my personal preferences.

Take, for example, the Audionotes mentioned earlier in the thread. 
This is a design that could in no way be described as 'sorted' in a
hifi sense, yet when I have listened to them, I have always found
myself forgiving their shortcomings, as they are fairly musical at the
price. Many other people would not give them house room, however.

On the other side of the coin Redheko make speakers whose strengths I
can admire and are well regarded by many, but I couldn't personally
live with at all.

And that's without taking the rest of your system into account!

Another point I would like to add to is the one about using a hifi
dealer for auditions with no intention to buy. This is something that
happens to every hifi dealer, especially for items that can be bought
over the net, or from some "pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap" merchant.
Most of these guys are struggling to make a decent living, as people
spend their cash on a wider and wider range of entertainment products,
and less on music systems. 

Anyway if you feel you might get into hifi for the long term, then
forging a relationship with a decent dealer can be very beneficial.

A final point, but one well made by dealers everywhere. Very often
people listen in a shop, and clearly like one or two of the products,
but will not buy them because they didn't come out number one in the
latest What HiFi comparitive review (for What HiFi, you can substitute
almost any other magazine title). Frequently the number one is less
preferred, yet will be bought by said customer because the reviewer
knows best. Well, you don't have the reviewers' ears or preferences, so
go with what you like!

Phew, I needed that!


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Re: speaker recomendations for approx �400

2007-11-12 Thread ErikM

Lot's and Lot's of great small speakers, Dynaudio, Proac,Monitor Audio,
Harbeth, Spendor, Quad, .. Brits are known for great small speakers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which "budget constrained" DAC for SB3?

2007-11-12 Thread slwiser

westernboy;240238 Wrote: 
> Hi cgull (clever name, btw).  In response to your original post, I can
> recommend the Beresford TC-7510 external DAC, providing it has the
> 'Class A' output mod.  At around 140 UK pound sterling, it was better
> than the modded Channel Islands VDA-1 I tried previously and (from
> memory) about as revealing as a Benchmark 1.  I can't comment on the
> Inguz plugin as I don't have a server with enough horsepower to run it,
> but I can say that room treatments (at least the DIY absorption panels
> I've installed so far) make a HUGE improvement to the sound quality.

I agree that the Beresford TC-7510 Mk6/3 is a very competitive unit
with very adequate sound even out of its headphone amp.  I am sending
it's signel into my Berning micro-ZOTL for my headphones.  I am using
the SB3 with FLAC files and optical output to the 7510.


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Adding some bass?

2007-11-12 Thread Gibbo

Maybe not quite up to some audiophile standards but I have a set of kef
Q3's (http://www.kef.com/history/2000/q/qseries3.asp) connected to a
nad 320bee amp pretty much the same as this
http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C325BEE-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier/images,
I would like to add a sub to my system, and would like some advice on
the best way to go. and how to connect it into the system, I don't want
to spend a great deal, and am in the uk. I don't have a clue if its
possible to connect a sub into this amp with my speakers?

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Re: speaker recomendations for approx �400

2007-11-12 Thread cani90

Monitor Audio i-Deck is the best speakers i am using.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-11-12 Thread adamslim


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ted_b;241524 Wrote: 
> My new Modwright tube-modded Transporter, as part of my 2 channel/HT
> system

Comments on the sound most welcome (perhaps a separate thread?).  Given
the dollar rate I'm tempted to have a TP sent direct to Modwright, but
it's a lot of money to spend without hearing it in advance, even if I
could probably get it all back on ebay!

Adam


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Re: speaker recomendations for approx �400

2007-11-12 Thread adamslim

Even though you're not looking to spend huge amounts now, I would make
my usual recommendation to people setting out on the path, as it were:
get yourself to the next Heathrow hifi show (February or March maybe?)
and have a listen.

There is a surprising range of 'character' to different hifi systems,
and dealers usually only stock their own favourite type.  It's not
really fair to go to each London dealer and spend four hours at each
when you're only going to buy something that gives them £100 profit, so
use the show to give yourself some guidance.

You should be able to decide whether you like something that is edgy
and exciting, spacious and atmospheric, detailed and precise or
whatever adjectives you fancy.  Even though you'll be listening to
systems costing many times what yours will, this will help to guide you
on the path.

The worst case scenario you see is where people have spent loads on a
sound that they don't really like, but keep improving their system
marginally, rather than rethinking the system from the ground up
(literally?).  It's easy to make this an expensive hobby rather than a
satisfying one.

Adam


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others

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