Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
ted_b;270145 Wrote: > The vile and unsupported criticism (i.e without ever hearing it) on this > thread is embarrassing. Don't be embarassed. It's par for the course around here. In the future I'd recommend just not posting in this forum and let them start ragging on each other when they find themselves with nothing else to do. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
ted_b;270145 Wrote: > I am Dan's first Modwright TP customer and have had it for months now. > It is the best digital front-end I've ever heard, and I've heard many. > I like it, in my system, in my well-treated room, quite a bit more than > the stock TP, a wonderful invention if I say so. > > I've posted pics and comments on another thread quite awhile ago. The > vile and unsupported criticism (i.e without ever hearing it) on this > thread is embarrassing. > > Thanks to Sean and Slim Devices/Logitech for inventing this wonderful > product, along with the software to complement it. The support Sean > and team have shown me is first rate. Thanks to Dan Wright for > changing the sound to work better and synergize in my room, with my > equipment. The power supply, sophisticated tube rectifier and analog > stage, and subsequent 24/96 tube dac capabilities are music to my ears. > YMMV. Vile criticism ? Isn't that being a bit extreme ? After all I think the MW TP would make an excellent hand warmer with all those tubes next to me on the couch while I listen to a REAL TP through my speakers. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
ted_b;270145 Wrote: > I am Dan's first Modwright TP customer and have had it for months now. > It is the best digital front-end I've ever heard, and I've heard many. > I like it, in my system, in my well-treated room, quite a bit more than > the stock TP, a wonderful invention if I say so. > > I've posted pics and comments on another thread quite awhile ago. The > vile and unsupported criticism (i.e without ever hearing it) on this > thread is embarrassing. > > Thanks to Sean and Slim Devices/Logitech for inventing this wonderful > product, along with the software to complement it. The support Sean > and team have shown me is first rate. Thanks to Dan Wright for > changing the sound to work better and synergize in my room, with my > equipment. The power supply, sophisticated tube rectifier and analog > stage, and subsequent 24/96 tube dac capabilities are music to my ears. > YMMV. Vile criticism ? Isn't that being a bit -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
ted_b;270145 Wrote: > I am Dan's first Modwright TP customer and have had it for months now. > It is the best digital front-end I've ever heard, and I've heard many. > I like it, in my system, in my well-treated room, quite a bit more than > the stock TP, a wonderful invention if I say so. > > I've posted pics and comments on another thread quite awhile ago. The > vile and unsupported criticism (i.e without ever hearing it) on this > thread is embarrassing. > > Thanks to Sean and Slim Devices/Logitech for inventing this wonderful > product, along with the software to complement it. The support Sean > and team have shown me is first rate. Thanks to Dan Wright for > changing the sound to work better and synergize in my room, with my > equipment. The power supply, sophisticated tube rectifier and analog > stage, and subsequent 24/96 tube dac capabilities are music to my ears. > YMMV. Hey Ted, I appreciate your sharing your experience. In fact, your posts were a big part of my initial interest in doing the upgrade with Dan. I certainly consider it money well spent! I just wanted to say a personal "thank you!" since you helped me discover the best digital sound I've yet heard in my home. I'm just now listening to my ModWright Logitech Transporter... I heard Lyle Lovett in concert Thursday night, and listening to his latest CD and comparing to the (admittedly flawed) auditory memory of that night is revelatory. I'm reliving it, and lovin' it! Thanks! Frank -- HalleysComet HalleysComet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14590 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
I don't understand why this is so difficult There's good stuff out there, and there's bad stuff out there... Some of the good stuff is very expensive, and some of the bad stuff is also very expensive What this is about is to believe in yourself and what you like and provide yourself something that makes you enjoy the music. It's an illusion that a cheap rig may be as good as a very expensive one that's compiled with great skills, but you may also have incredibly expensive rigs that are crap. Yes, It's ridiculous with speaker cables at $10.000/feet. But that doesn't make all expensive gear ridiculous It's very simple: THINK and Use your Brains !!! Regards Harald N -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
Yez, I agree with you Harmonic, there must be something wrong :-D -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
ChiefVoodooMan;270096 Wrote: > Oh my dear friends where is the science (let alone the romance of the > music) in any of this. I would be willing to bet the farm that given a > chance to a/b/c test the SB3 with No DAC = "A", SB3 with DACx = "B", > SB3 with DACy = "C" that no person in a test group of normal human > subjects ( not Hallucinating Crypto-Schizophrenic self proclaimed > golden ear audiophiles) would ever to be able make a statistically > significant choice between the 3 options. > > The industry is putting you on a path to endless dissatisfaction, a > never ending wheel of upgrade hell, and financial ruin. The > computerization / digitalization of music is something we must learn > to live with and accept. But do not let the perfectly affordable and to > a large extent stunningly satisfying SB3 be your gateway drug into the > world of hardcore audio addiction. Sit back relax enjoy the wonder of > the music and stop counting bits. Lets be honest with ourselves and > admit there will never be a substitute for a live musical performance. > So try to get out once and awhile and enjoy a real musical experience, > in a real place with real ambiance, with a real sound stage, with > real living breathing people sharing that same wondrous experience. > Then go home and enjoy the always to be imperfect reproduction of your > music replay system - but please listen to the music not the gear. > > If you have some neurotic need to spend thousands of dollars trying to > recreate the unattainable then perhaps you should reevaluate your life > - think about the good that could be accomplished with that money - > give to your favourite charity or community organization - open your > ears, eyes, and more importantly open your hearts!!! > > CVM The only reason why i fell in love with this crazed hoppy of building a perfect hifi system and useing countless of houres and money in the persuit, is because there really is no limit for have good somthing it can sound. I truly beleive that you can better the real thing. Unless ofcause you listen purly to live recordings . Yes thats right the system i have right now sounds better then have the same artist sound live. I love live music but my system sounds better , i was reasonly at a Cure concert and yes it was a great experince but i get even more goosspots when i hear Just Like Heaven on my owen system and thast what its all about ( for me at least) only a live violin concert sounds better. -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
I think you should put-up or shut-up. Tell us more about this farm ... -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
ChiefVoodooMan;270140 Wrote: > > Still no science in most replies that I have seen. With the pace of > life being what it is currently - I would venture to say there is a > sucker born every second these days > I'll provide you some science - The new Wadia dac's upsample to 1.4MHz which provides a fantastic sound, why? There's no phase shift in the audible range because there's no digital and analog filter. That's a fact which is measurable and audible I have listened to it myself, does it work: YES! Is it expendive: YES! - The Adyton Cordis 1.8 Power amplifier is a serious powerhouse of an amplifier that's been under development for 10 years with the help of the best technical societies around in Norway. They are using transistors that are 15 times quicker than the best transistors ever used by Krell, it has an ouput impedance that's so low that the best instruments are unable to actually provide a reliable measurement of the output impedance. Is that snake oil: NO! it's backed by the sciencetific society in Norway Does it work: YES! Is it expensive: Yes, incredibly, impossible to create such a product at a low price tag Is it measurable and backed by facts: YES, facts backed by Norwegian University of Science and Technology - The Adyton imagic 1.6 speaker is a produkt that's got no passive components in the signal path, providing a line source and utilizing a truly creative setup that creates a representation that's better than anything I have ever heard. It makes Pink Floyd The Wall to a completely new recording unlike anything I have ever heard Is ut backed by facts: YES! Does it work: YES! Fact: No crossover and no passive components in the signal path minimizes loss and increase dynamics Fact: Line source speaker makes the speaker less dependent on room coupling, this is a measurable fact Fact: is it expensive, Yes, because it takes a lot of work to create such a product Fact: Is it snake oil, NO!!! because anyone that is not dumb and deaf can hear that it works These series of components provide a complete range where there's absolutely no filters in the digital and analog domain, the facts behind why this works and why this is a good thing is easily obtained. Most of this is backed up by Norwegian University of Science and Technology This is serious stuff that works and it's expensive because there's just no way to create such a system at a low price tag. Are the people buying such products idiots: - According to you: Yes - According to me: NO! Now I'm providing some scientific facts backed by the Norwegian University of Science and Technology. is that good enough for you? Now if you are continuing your pursuit of dragging this discussion into the dirt, please do that but provide facts and not just cheap crap. Regards Harald N -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
I am Dan's first Modwright TP customer and have had it for months now. It is the best digital front-end I've ever heard, and I've heard many. I like it, in my system, in my well-treated room, quite a bit more than the stock TP, a wonderful invention if I say so. I've posted pics and comments on another thread quite awhile ago. The vile and unsupported criticism (i.e without ever hearing it) on this thread is embarrassing. Thanks to Sean and Slim Devices/Logitech for inventing this wonderful product, along with the software to complement it. The support Sean and team have shown me is first rate. Thanks to Dan Wright for changing the sound to work better and synergize in my room, with my equipment. The power supply, sophisticated tube rectifier and analog stage, and subsequent 24/96 tube dac capabilities are music to my ears. YMMV. -- ted_b ted_b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3289 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
Robin Bowes;270143 Wrote: > ChiefVoodooMan wrote: > it annoyed me and I agree with your viewpoint to a certain extent! > R. Sorry! I stepped over the line, didn't mean to annoy you.. But we need to have a conversation that's also backed by facts. Regards Harald N -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
ChiefVoodooMan wrote: > I appreciate and welcome the few thoughtful replies to datebut > please do not degrade yourselves and this forum if you can't engage in > a constructive discussion. And then wrote a lot of condescending diatribe. Now, I'm not defending the audiophile snake-oil gravy train (I'm sceptical myself, and I don't disagree with what you say) but I suggest you drop the condescending attitude; it annoyed me and I agree with your viewpoint to a certain extent! R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
ChiefVoodooMan;270140 Wrote: > Gee there appears to be a lot of sensitivity and defensiveness Absolutely no defensiveness around here I believe that if you should provide such statements that you do here in such a forum you should back up your statements by facts and science and not just throw around wild assumptions with no background in reality. Remember my question that you wouldn't answer: What's your scientific background for these statements? Remember who is talking about science here. But what you are providing is just absolute crap and nothing of value to this discussion. Regards Harald N -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
Phil Leigh;270108 Wrote: > Harald - yes, I am in for a farm - but it had better be a good one with > lots of animals and machinery and other stuff! Gee there appears to be a lot of sensitivity and defensiveness when some of you have your assumptions questioned or challenged. Some nagging little voice in the back of your heads perhps saying "could it be I've been duped? Could there be some truth to this "idiot" CVD's claims?" I appreciate and welcome the few thoughtful replies to datebut please do not degrade yourselves and this forum if you can't engage in a constructive discussion. >From time to time one (me?) needs to take extreme positions in order to get people thinking out of the box and their complacent acceptance of whatever half baked science is thrown at them from an industry that is for the most part trying to move maximum dollars from your bank account to their own. Wake up folks there are a lot of yatchs and Ferraris floating around out there on the profits they have made on the fantasies they have perpetuated. How many of my dear responders have a vested interest in keeping the snake oil show going? How many of you are in biz or "this thing of yours" and thus somewhat biased. A fair question hey mates?... Still no science in most replies that I have seen. With the pace of life being what it is currently - I would venture to say there is a sucker born every second these days Happy Listening folks - have to go feed the hogs and slop out their pens...back at you later. CVD CVD -- ChiefVoodooMan ChiefVoodooMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15526 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
darrenyeats;270134 Wrote: > Check out the difference between the 1994 Sony release and the Columbia > release of Grace by Jeff Buckley attached > Darren This is very scary stuff, this is very very audible. I was quite shocked the first time I put on Bruce Springsteen / Magic The albums is so compressed and sounds so bad that I just can't bear listening to the CD. It's completely unlistenable It's sad that a Springsteen album is so completely crappy that you can't listen to it. Some new CD's are so compressed that you are down to 8dB dynamic range. Yes, the monstrilla gigablock amp and superduperzilla speakers doesn't help if the source is totally broken... -Harald -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
Comments can only touch a nerve if there's some truth to them. Hence I haven't taken anything that CVM idiot wrote personally!! ;-) Seriously, I agree there is a lot of posturing in the audiophile world. Some things you just can't throw money at. Check out the difference between the 1994 Sony release and the Columbia release of Grace by Jeff Buckley attached (Columbia at top). If you are playing the Columbia release on a your super-duper DAC14 and Willion dollar speakers, you're not going to enjoy it as much as hearing the decently mastered Sony release on a normal system or maybe even on an music player with PX-100s (the Columbia release which I've used till now has always annoyed me a bit, the Sony is relaxing by comparison.) Thanks to the crazy music business we buy from, throwing money at your system is not enough. Being smart can sometimes be more important. Phil Leigh;270108 Wrote: > Harald - yes, I am in for a farm - but it had better be a good one with > lots of animals and machinery and other stuff! LOL!!! Darren +---+ |Filename: mojo-pin.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4305| +---+ -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) -> PMC AB-1 Dell laptop -> JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FW40 - Real time DSP, digital out -> in?
Phil Leigh;270124 Wrote: > I'd certainly suggest you try it...but your experiences might be very > different to mine. > In my system, the moment I turned on DRC it was like...magic!. After 3 > years of living with it, I'm still very happy. Actually, I have made up my mind already... To try out a Lyngdorf DPA-1 http://www.lyngdorf.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=43 Or a TDAI2200 (or both) http://www.lyngdorf.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=33 It basically boils down to strategy when it comes to which product to pick, I reckon... I also get a DSP crossover at the same time, nice :-D (Well the Tact's have always had the DSP X-over) Regards Harald -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42957 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FW40 - Real time DSP, digital out -> in?
haraldo;270118 Wrote: > It is very! interesting to realize what you get out of the Tact > Sounds like I really need to get hold of a new Lyngdorf with > roomperfect. > > -Regards > > Harald N I'd certainly suggest you try it...but your experiences might be very different to mine. In my system, the moment I turned on DRC it was like...magic!. After 3 years of living with it, I'm still very happy. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42957 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wishlist for Transporter 2
hmm.. scouring down these lists i don't see anything that anyone suggested that strikes me as being a 'can't live without' suggestion. which makes me think two things: 1. the thing is pretty damn cool to begin with 2. don't expect a TP II anytime soon p.s. you guys do know you can turn off the display with the bright button, right? -- ratso THE ULTIMATE 2 CH. BUDGET SYSTEM? Emotiva BPA-1 monoblocks x4, Transporter, Channel Islands VPC-3 2 channel passive controller, Gallo ref. 3.1's, APC H-10 power conditioner, Dared VP-20 monoblocks, cables by Blue Jeans ***APPROX. $6500.00!!!*** ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43466 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FW40 - Real time DSP, digital out -> in?
Phil Leigh;270068 Wrote: > The system sounds very natural (to me) with DRC on and very boring and > uninvolving with it off. > It is very! interesting to realize what you get out of the Tact Sounds like I really need to get hold of a new Lyngdorf with roomperfect. -Regards Harald N -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42957 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
I think I'll sell my Krell amp and replace it with a $100 Philips radio Out goes my Meadowlark Kestrel2 and I'll replace them with some cheap crap Creative PC Speakers We are all dumb and deaf and can't hear the difference anyways -Harald -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
...but first I need to sell my 1990 Fender USA Telecaster Custom Deluxe & Marshall TSL601 and pick up a $100 catalog guitar/amp...apparently I won't be able to tell the difference. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
Harald - yes, I am in for a farm - but it had better be a good one with lots of animals and machinery and other stuff! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
ChiefVoodooMan;270096 Wrote: > Oh my dear friends where is the science (let alone the romance of the > music) in any of this. I would be willing to bet the farm that given a > chance to a/b/c test the SB3 with No DAC = "A", SB3 with DACx = "B", > SB3 with DACy = "C" that no person in a test group of normal human > subjects ( not Hallucinating Crypto-Schizophrenic self proclaimed > golden ear audiophiles) would ever to be able make a statistically > significant choice between the 3 options. > CVM This is some of the most narrow minded thinking I have ever heard. What is your background for such a statement? Have you ever listened to music in a well perfoming system? Have you ever tried to perceive the reality that there's a difference? Or - are you just making a statement because this is what you believe? You are clearly talking about science, What's the scientific background for such a statement? Regards Harald N -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
Clear evidence in fact that the drugs do work... It must be Groundhog Day. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
Oh my dear friends where is the science (let alone the romance of the music) in any of this. I would be willing to bet the farm that given a chance to a/b/c test the SB3 with No DAC = "A", SB3 with DACx = "B", SB3 with DACy = "C" that no person in a test group of normal human subjects ( not Hallucinating Crypto-Schizophrenic self proclaimed golden ear audiophiles) would ever to be able make a statistically significant choice between the 3 options. The industry is putting you on a path to endless dissatisfaction, a never ending wheel of upgrade hell, and financial ruin. The computerization / digitalization of music is something we must learn to live with and accept. But do not let the perfectly affordable and to a large extent stunningly satisfying SB3 be your gateway drug into the world of hardcore audio addiction. Sit back relax enjoy the wonder of the music and stop counting bits. Lets be honest with ourselves and admit there will never be a substitute for a live musical performance. So try to get out once and awhile and enjoy a real musical experience, in a real place with real ambiance, with a real sound stage, with real living breathing people sharing that same wondrous experience. Then go home and enjoy the always to be imperfect reproduction of your music replay system - but please listen to the music not the gear. If you have some neurotic need to spend thousands of dollars trying to recreate the unattainable then perhaps you should reevaluate your life - think about the good that could be accomplished with that money - give to your favourite charity or community organization - open your ears, eyes, and more importantly open your hearts!!! CVM -- ChiefVoodooMan ChiefVoodooMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15526 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
Of course the world is spherical, otherwise we'd all fall off a a a a a r g h ! (thump) "ouch" -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
I did a demo for a friend some years ago I A/B tested a Toshiba SD-210 with and without an external DAC. Without the external DAC, the music was pretty cold and sterile Throwing in an Audio Note DAC Zero directly improved the music to such an extent that any half deaf person would immediately note the differences. The warmth in the female voices was in another league The Toshiba is way different from the SB3, no comparison intended.. Subsequently I bought a Benchmark DAC1, I can clearly hear that the DAC1 is way way better than the Audio Note in my system, this may be different in someone else's system To say that there's no differences between anything is like saying the world is flat. We all know that the world is not flat, do we? Regards Harald N -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
So, you believe that everything sounds the same? We are all deaf or stupid or both? Your Bose Lifestyle system (or whatever) sounds like my system? Just what point are you trying to make exactly? Forgetting the consumer world for a moment, there are plenty of people on here with experience of professional audio. I suppose your comments apply equally there? So, my Neumann mics are as good as a Radio Shack $10 dynamic? My Focusrite and TL Audio units are overpriced and I would be better off with Behringer? What equipment do you use? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FW40 - Real time DSP, digital out -> in?
My TACT can produce a pretty much ruler-flat response from 20Hz to 16Khz in my room with my system - but I prefer a gentle roll-off from 14k up of about -2dB. I don't agree there is anything magic about 200hz or how well DRC works above/below that. My experience has been very different from those folks who claim DRC only works (or works properly) at lower frequencies. In particular my system in my room has a nasty suckout in the midrange that needs a fair bit of boosting in the 1-4Khz region. The system sounds very natural (to me) with DRC on and very boring and uninvolving with it off. Also, the left/right imaging locks into place with DRC whereas my asymmetric room won't allow that normally. I have one speaker near to 2 walls and another near only one wall. Unfortunately I can't rearrange the room for many complex and boring reasons. Each to their own of course. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42957 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
zanash;270026 Wrote: > > why do they need to tell other people what they think is correct when > its only there opinion. Why should everyone have to conform to one > persons way of thinking > > So you are proposing that group think is far better? I sense a bit of the "tyranny of the mob" abrewing. No I do not presuppose to tell anyone what to think or do with their money but I do reserve the right to opine and question others assumptions. You are correct - who am I to ask others to question their assumptions and accepted norms of the groups assumptions no matter how silly? Forgive me for asking you and others to think about anything to deeply. I suspect many in this hobby / passionate pursuit are trapped in the consumerists MATRIX. I believe ( forgive my arrogance for having an independent non orthodox thought) you have been manipulated by the audio-industrial complex to think that small - but expensive - changes here and there in your systems will result in getting a step closer to audio nirvana. EVERY A/B scientifically conducted study no matter the piece of gear under study be it a reasonably priced quality cable, dac, or amp continue to come up with the same result - no statistically significant difference can be determined !!! If you choose to ignore the science, well that is your choice and your right indeed - but consider you very well may be deep in the throws of an addiction - and the first step on the road to recovery is admitting you have a problem - something along the lines of standing up and stating to the group " My name is Zanesh and I have been an audioholic for 5 years. I am a duped zombie and audio nirvana is a superstition" No I am not an arrogant SOB and a bully - it is the mob not I... Zanesh this is not personal...;) -- ChiefVoodooMan ChiefVoodooMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15526 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wishlist for Transporter 2
SuperQ;269969 Wrote: > You're right.. There are tons of video frontend boxes out there, but > they all suck in major ways for various reasons. A Video > Squeezebox/Transporter would be great. But I've heard before from the > SlimDevices guys that they are all about music, not video. Maybe they > can get another division of logitech to whip something up. Nobody knows which state anything related to video is now, I guess... Don't even think about the physical formats... How will you even get the HD stuff to a hard drive - Don't know where HD-DVD goes - Blueray standards seem to change every two weeks - Double level encryption on Blueray prohibits any kind of transfer to disk (or at least playing) - DVD Transfer to disk is illegal, and you may get sued if you do that I don't think any major player in the video business is even considering what's best to the consumers. This is a major minefield Regards Harald N -- haraldo Suse Linux -> SB3 -> Benchmark DAC1 -> Krell KAV400xi -> Meadowlark Kestrel2 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43466 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
ChiefVoodooMan;269936 Wrote: > Oh my dear friends where is the science (let alone the romance of the > music) in any of this. I would be willing to bet the farm that given a > chance to a/b/c test the SB3 with No DAC = "A", SB3 with DACx = "B", > SB3 with DACy = "C" that no person in a test group of normal human > subjects ( not Hallucinating Crypto-Schizophrenic self proclaimed > golden ear audiophiles) would ever to be able make a statistically > significant choice between the 3 options. > How big is your farm, and how easily can it be translated into cash? -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PS Audio Digital Link III VS Benchmark DAC1
I didn't think we had anyone on here with such distorted ideas ... why do they need to tell other people what they think is correct when its only there opinion. Why should everyone have to conform to one persons way of thinking ? It shows a breath taking arrogance and a total lack of understanding of others appreciation of music and hifi. -- zanash Acoustician and builder of interesting cables zanash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34436 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
