Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
I tried 2 resistors of 10K on each channel. It seems to be fine, or should I use any higher/lower resistor? -- Amauta SlimServer 6.3.1 on Celeron 1400MHz/256MB Clarkconnect headless pc. 2x SB2. Amauta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Toslink or Digital Coax?
Phil Leigh;314654 Wrote: > Oh - and you missed out ADAT Lightpipe :o) and don't forget I2S and I2S enhanced! oh wait, just about everybody has! -- DCtoDaylight Audiophile wish list: Zero Distortion, Infinite Signal to Noise Ratio, and a Bandwidth from DC to Daylight DCtoDaylight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49147 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Receiver with 96kHz output
tobyjug;314736 Wrote: > Does anyone know if Logitech will be releasing a receiver with up to > 96khz on the digital output. Nothing's been announced, and Logitech have a policy of not talking about future products. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49210 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
I think the basic test has to be to simply disconnect the offending computer from the router and if that does not cure it, then it is clearly interference through the mains loop, despite the consumer unit being in there. I will try this tomorrow. However, I've had this computer quite a long time now, and haven't really noticed it affecting the system when playing vinyl or the CD player that is now languishing in a cupboard. Another assertion I need to double check before drawing any sort of conclusion. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
pfarrell;314383 Wrote: > > What, you two guys don't believe that the CD transport is important? > How > can you claim to be audiophiles? > > Next you will claim that bits are bits and that there is no such thing > as a digital cable. Hah, I'm not an audiophile, I have realistic expectations. ;-) -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Receiver with 96kHz output
Does anyone know if Logitech will be releasing a receiver with up to 96khz on the digital output. I have some Linn files that are 24/96 and the SB3 is downsampling them to 24/48 which going through the dCS Purcell (upsampling to 192) and Delius sound extreamly good. Very detailed, warm and very listenable. I would, however, eventually like to play the files without downsampling. I know the transporter outputs at 96 but it would be a waste of money when I have the dCS kit any I haven't got any where near that kind of money. -- tobyjug tobyjug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49210 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
Themis;314693 Wrote: > (I've been using AV amplifiers for soo long, i almost forgot that you > can't change input sensitivity on HiFi amps^^) > > I agree with the previous : you need an attenuator, although I'm not > sure it won't affect signal quality. :( Well, at least they're not > expensive. ;) Look - at line level, a simple resistor network to reduce volume will NOT impact audio quality. You can use the Rothwell attenuators or make your own if you can solder(it's really simple). Even if you use the worlds most expensive resistors - vishay for example - (no point at this this signal level) making your own is cheaper and more satisfying. However even the cheapest carbon resistors will sound fine. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
We provided the answer... If he's hearing what he thinks he's hearing... he has a problem with the electrical wiring in his home, and/or he's got a faulty power supply in the offending computer. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Business Unit slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
Std reply on this forum for anyone daring to suggest that they hear a sonic difference is - DO A BLIND TESTSo how does that answer the OP's query? -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian DSP5000's "The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop" Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
Rodney_Gold;314678 Wrote: > I cannot conduct a blind test with all it's attendant methodology, > however I can conduct tests of various items where I am not sighted , > IE someone else switches. But even if I can predict by listening , > differences in components , the problem is that it still not a blind > test and the results are not "scientific" , thus are still flawed to > some. The only thing that would satisfy those who insist on blind test > is the finding that there are no differencesNever ending loop.Pale Blue > Ego was correct in suggesting a type of blind test. The OP was wondering why this might be happening and she suggested a way of determining if it was. You don't like blind tests fine,suggest something else. He was the one wondering so I would think he would expect a response. It wasn't like she was trying to ruin his day. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
iPhone;314684 Wrote: > Isn't that what I said in the third reply post of this thread? Yes... as you can see from your quote of my post, I said you were correct. I was agreeing with you. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Business Unit slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
sc53;314362 Wrote: > Is there any inexpensive player I could buy to use as a backup if my > network is down, that won't be horribly inadequate given what I am used > to listening to? For a low budget option, I'd suggest a used Marantz CD63 SE or CD67 SE. They've got digital outputs, and they sound halfway decent from their analog jacks if your DAC happens to be temporarily out of commission. They come up on eBay every now and then for under a hundred bucks. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
(I've been using AV amplifiers for soo long, i almost forgot that you can't change input sensitivity on HiFi amps^^) I agree with the previous : you need an attenuator, although I'm not sure it won't affect signal quality. :( Well, at least they're not expensive. ;) -- Themis SB3 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
Harman/Kardon HK6650R, not that it can't handle the input. I prefer to have more angle to graduate the volume. Now when it is 1/4 open, the volume is already too high for me. -- Amauta SlimServer 6.3.1 on Celeron 1400MHz/256MB Clarkconnect headless pc. 2x SB2. Amauta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
mvalera;314663 Wrote: > Ok, right. Missed that and you are correct... if there actually is a > difference, it would be down to wiring issues in his house and/or a > faulty power supply on the offending computer. Isn't that what I said in the third reply post of this thread? -- iPhone *iPhone* 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/mephone) Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, Vandersteen Quatro, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Bedroom: SB3, NAD C370, Thiel 2.3 Home Office: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, VSM-1 Sigs Mobile: SB3, Audioengine A5 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
Amauta;314637 Wrote: > Recently I bought a Lite DAC-AH. I like it a lot more than the internal > DAC of my SB2. My problem is that the output level of the Lite DAC is > so high that I have difficulties using the volume button on my > amplifier. What is the best audiophile way to lower the output level of > my DAC?May I ask what is your amplifier ? -- Themis SB3 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
I cannot conduct a blind test with all it's attendant methodology, however I can conduct tests of various items where I am not sighted , IE someone else switches. But even if I can predict by listening , differences in components , the problem is that it still not a blind test and the results are not "scientific" , thus are still flawed to some. The only thing that would satisfy those who insist on blind test is the finding that there are no differencesNever ending loop. -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian DSP5000's "The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop" Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
Amauta;314669 Wrote: > I was more thinking of putting in some resistors in the line out. But do > these affect the sound quality? You'd better hope not, your DAC has got lots of them in it ;) -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
Amauta wrote: > I was more thinking of putting in some resistors in the line out. But do > these affect the sound quality? An attenuator is just a voltage divider circuit made of resistors. If they are well matched, they just reduce the voltage output. Since humans always think that louder music is better, at some level, it will impact sound quality. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
I was more thinking of putting in some resistors in the line out. But do these affect the sound quality? -- Amauta SlimServer 6.3.1 on Celeron 1400MHz/256MB Clarkconnect headless pc. 2x SB2. Amauta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
JJZolx;314462 Wrote: > I'd definitely recommend having a CD player on hand for the times when > your SqueezeCenter server, or your network isn't available for whatever > reason. Or even just for when someone comes by with a CD that you want > to play on your stereo without having to rip it first. I lost my > server's boot disk early last week, so I was without my SqueezeCenter > server until the weekend when I had the chance to rebuild it. During > that time it was back to good old CDs and FM. > > If you're going to be playing it through an outboard DAC, and if it's > only occasionally used, then I wouldn't worry too much about the merits > of the CDP as a transport. > > (An aside: During the week of going "back" to CDs I was reminded once > again of how much nicer it is to browse through a wall full of actual > CDs instead of using one of the Squeeze interfaces. There are a lot of > wonderful advantages to PC based music systems, but browsing and > selecting something to listen to from a large music library is _not_ > one of them. For this reason alone, I'd be tempted to hang on to a > really good CD player instead of selling it. If you haven't played CDs > recently, you should try shutting down the SqueezeCenter server and > going back to CDs for a week or two. You might be surprised to find > that your listening habits, even (dare I say it) your satisfaction > level, may be different.) As a longer term squeezecenter user too, I'm with you. I really don't like scrolling through my collection - it just seems to wierd and I have never gotten used to it. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
radish;314632 Wrote: > Actually I find that if I switch off the computer running SC, the sound > becomes...well...silent :) > > Seriously, the OP is talking about switching off a different PC in the > same house...the only conceivable issue would be electrical noise on > the power circuits, but hey it saves power having it off so be green > and happy :) Ok, right. Missed that and you are correct... if there actually is a difference, it would be down to wiring issues in his house and/or a faulty power supply on the offending computer. -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Business Unit slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
David - going with your flow for a moment...all ring mains are connected eventually at the main junction box in your house (UK wiring). So an emitter of crap onto the mains WILL be able to interfere with other equipment. PC's use heavy duty switching supplies that are NOT designed for audio niceness. They are designed to be cheap and powerful. It is possible that your mains filtering is having trouble dealing with this (or it could be airborne EMI that your filters wont touch anyway). You need to enlist the help of a friend to see if you are really hearing this or not. If you are, then you might want to try plugging the offending PC into a suppression device of some sort... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
Themis;314643 Wrote: > I owe a Cambridge player (640C) and i find that : > - its transport is pretty good, as good as my SB3. It replaces my SB > whenever i service the network/computers and it drives well enough my > dac. In my case, whatever differences may exist between the two of > them, they mainly come from he digital cable, not the players. > - i prefer my external dac, but the 640 is good enough for a few days > (in case my dac fails). I dumped my Meridian 598 player and never looked back. I do have a Sony Play Station 3 that can play CD's. Find something that can serve another purpose. A computer with SPDIF out also works. The only time I ever need one is if a guest comes over with CD's. -- mswlogo Thinkpad XP SS > Cat5 > Transporter > SPDIF-COAX > Meridian G68ADV (Trifield, Room corrected, Upsampled) > DSP6000 Mains, DSP5500HC Center, DSP33 Rears mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Toslink or Digital Coax?
Rodney_Gold;314516 Wrote: > Iv'e never used toslink myself , always a decent coax or AES/EBU > cable. > However I have read many times the order of "goodness" of digital links > in order of best to worse is > > 1) AT&T Glass (or theta laserlinque) > 2) AES/EBU 110ohm > 3) SPDIF 75 ohm > 4) Toslink You may have read that - so have I. However many years of practical experience leads me to conclude that it all depends on the equipment at either end (and especially at the DAC/amp end), local RFI/EMI/Grounding etc. and also the actual implementation of these interfaces. For example, some people swear that glass toslink is "better" than plastic...however, I think they are just going on gut logic (glass must be a better conductor of light)... In some systems TOSLINK sounds "better" than any coax. In particular I'd challenge any difference between AES/EBU and spdif over 5 meters! Oh - and you missed out ADAT Lightpipe :o) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49147 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
Rodney_Gold;314607 Wrote: > > The point a lot of you miss is that sonics are percieved , the brain > and ear are not scientific devices , one influences the other - the > same tea tastes better out a china mug than a tin - why? > I agree that most of hearing is in the mind. The problem with using tweaks that don't actually improve SQ is that the benefit of the tweak, the psychological benefit, isn't permanent. The self-delusion could wear off slowly or be revealed suddenly. This is the cause of those "wait a minute, this sounds completely crap!" moments people get from time to time. :) Personally speaking, I have found blind testing to have a psychological benefit in itself. When I know I have tested something blind and found it does/doesn't matter I can stop obsessing about phantom effects and enjoy what I know to be the best set up. First, you get to make real changes that improve SQ. Second, there's a positive psychological benefit from knowing that...which is even stronger than that generated from 'guessing' about tweaks. If you've never tried a blind test I recommend you do: there's really nothing to lose and if you don't like it at least you've tried. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) -> PMC AB-1 Dell laptop -> JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
Use an attenuator - you can get RCA plugs that knock off 10dB, say. Use the SB volume to suss out the right amount of attenuation, then buy that value, or close. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
I owe a Cambridge player (640C) and i find that : - its transport is pretty good, as good as my SB3. It replaces my SB whenever i service the network/computers and it drives well enough my dac. In my case, whatever differences may exist between the two of them, they mainly come from he digital cable, not the players. - i prefer my external dac, but the 640 is good enough for a few days (in case my dac fails). -- Themis SB3 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
Is it possible that you at least partly prefer the sound of your external DAC precisely because it has a higher volume output compared to the SB DAC ? It wouldn't be the first time increased volume was perceived as increased audio quality. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
If I were writing the above in a magazine, then I would have done extensive repeatability tests, but in this forum I think it is useful to post first impressions and see if there is other similar experience out there, and possibly (perhaps more importantly) someone who might be able to suggest why this might occur. So if I can ask you to take a huge leap of faith, and assume for the moment that I am neither deaf nor stupid. What about those people who find the TP generally dull and lifeless, or those that find its performance varies greatly? Just suppose for a moment that it is possible for a computer wired into the network to affect the performance of the TP - to make it a bit dull and lifeless. What if that computer is your main server? Then you will think the TP is dull and lifeless. Or in my case, if the server does not affect the TP but an ancilliary computer does, then you will perceive the performance of the TP changing from day to day. My experience is that the TP is 95% of the time an amazing performer, doubly so given the price. As I rarely leave my computer on when I sit down for a serious listening session, then that would add up. Again, this is first impressions, out there for debate. I will try it again, and in a more controlled way. I'll also try simply pulling the patch cable out. However, if I'm right, then I would repeat my question. What mechanism could cause it? -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
Recently I bought a Lite DAC-AH. I like it a lot more than the internal DAC of my SB2. My problem is that the output level of the Lite DAC is so high that I have difficulties using the volume button on my amplifier. What is the best audiophile way to lower the output level of my DAC? -- Amauta SlimServer 6.3.1 on Celeron 1400MHz/256MB Clarkconnect headless pc. 2x SB2. Amauta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2669 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
mvalera;314625 Wrote: > > The computer running SqeezeCenter, being on or off, has zero effect on > the sound coming out of the players. > Actually I find that if I switch off the computer running SC, the sound becomes...well...silent :) Seriously, the OP is talking about switching off a different PC in the same house...the only conceivable issue would be electrical noise on the power circuits, but hey it saves power having it off so be green and happy :) -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
I think this has ben covered before. The computer running SqeezeCenter, being on or off, has zero effect on the sound coming out of the players. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Business Unit slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
bigfool1956;314547 Wrote: > Whoopee, back in the UK for a whole week, that means real hifi, vinyl, > transporter instead of duet, and whopping great speakers instead of > headphones. > > I use a QNAP for a server, and I'm wired to and from the router (don't > really want a wifi transceiver hovering above my pre-amp). The QNAP is > in another room, with a large Dell desktop, which is also wired to the > router. This room is on a different ring main to the hifi. > > So I'm sat listening to my TP wondering why sometimes it sounds good, > but uninvolving, and at other times it sounds simply great. My mind is > wandering because exactly then was one of the uninvolving times. Anyway > I wander into the study to see how my spyware scan is doing, nothing > found, and so the desktop is not required. I switch it off and go back > to listening. > > Thing is, when I walk back into the room I'm staggered by the change in > sound. Now the TP sounds great again. Clearly switching on and off the > desktop affects the sound, and it's not subtle. Why on earth? I mean > CAT5 is decoupled AFAIK. It's a different ring main, different room. > > BTW, I wasn't even looking for a change, or experimenting, I simply > turned off the computer because I didn't need it running. > > I have no sensible explanation. All I know is I'll be making sure the > desktop is off when I listen seriously in future. Since you were not "paying attention", it is most likely your mind and ears playing tricks on you. The music was probably different (song changed) or any of 10,000 other things IE anything BUT turning the PC off. Good now that that is out of the way, if their "Really" is a change there are not to many things it could be. Defective (noisy) PC power supply, bad NIC, poor AC power or ground loop, and maybe any other path back to the audio room. Best of all for you there is a very simple solution, leave the other PC off when you are streaming if you "Really" think there is a difference. -- iPhone *iPhone* 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/mephone) Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, Vandersteen Quatro, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Bedroom: SB3, NAD C370, Thiel 2.3 Home Office: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, VSM-1 Sigs Mobile: SB3, Audioengine A5 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
The point is : now that you have ripped all your Cd's and gone the SB/TP route are you actually going to load one up and "spin" it. I have ended up with a closet full of equipment I no longer use but have been loathe to selleventually it loses all value and I can't bear to dump it or sell it for peanutsmy "meshugas" I would sell the Ayre , get the best price you can cos if you have gone the SB/TP route , you are obviously convinced that this is the future of music and your Ayre will just devalue in time and you are really only keeping it as a "what if" thingy. You could always buy a cheap DVD player for the times you network goes down or indeed as a transport into a decent dac. -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian DSP5000's "The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop" Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
If bigfool says it sounds better, even if it is some psychological trick you think he's playing on himself , why should he semi blind test it? It's not like he's spending any money on this tweak and if he thinks it sounds better , it is a truism for him. Much like I think decoding flac on my server sounds better than decoding it at my transporter. I promise you that if you have a preconcieved notion that there are no differences , even if there are , you probably wont hear them too. I say good luck to him , if he has achieved a better sound , whichever way it may be , he reaps the rewards , why rain on his parade? The point a lot of you miss is that sonics are percieved , the brain and ear are not scientific devices , one influences the other - the same tea tastes better out a china mug than a tin - why? Who knows , maybe there is something that his desktop or whatever is doing to the signal or the music Wewere told digital sound is perfect sound forever - that was wrong too. -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian DSP5000's "The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop" Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
The idea of browsing my CD shelves is exactly why I don't want to give up a CD player altogether! I love doing that. I still miss the old-time record store where you could go in and flip through LPs in various genres for hours on end, sneezing from the dust. Later I browsed for CDs in the same manner in record stores. It's getting harder and harder to find places to do this anymore, I order most of my CDs from Amazon and vinyl from Music Direct or Acoustic Sounds and the only browsing I do is online. Not the same. Like some of you, if my network goes down I have my 2000 LPs to listen to on my Linn LP12, and I still have FM tuners as well--plus my trusty old Nakamichi CR-7A tape deck and all those mix tapes I made in the 70s and 80s! I guess I just like to have a lot of options, but I don't want to see a $3000 CD player not getting that much use so I thought I'd downgrade and save some $$$. Still it'll be very hard to part with the Ayre, it is a wonderful player even at twice the price. -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
Pale Blue Ego;314586 Wrote: > I'd be willing to take those annoying Squeezeboxes off your hands, clive > and JJZ, so you can "get back to where you once belonged". Acknowledging one small disadvantage in running a Squeezebox based system doesn't mean I don't appreciate the multitude of advantages it brings. As it happens, I sold my (very expensive) CD player back in 2005 after embracing the Slim Devices approach. Over the intervening years I've learned to live without being able to browse my music that way. But that doesn't alter the fact that it *is* a browsing mode that is sometimes useful and has been lost. -- cliveb Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] power supply upgrade for duet receiver
iPhone;314493 Wrote: > Hello Earle, > > One of the most important things about a power supply for an audio > device is available current; the second being the output voltage is in > the ballpark. iPhone I'm not sure you intended those two criteria to be in a particular order, but in case anyone infers the wrong thing from "the second being...", I'd have to point out that the voltage is the MOST important part if you don't want to damage the powered device. A power supply with too high a voltage will likely damage the device being powered, whereas a power supply with too low a current rating will simply mean that the device will not function with that PSU. At worst, the PSU may be damaged, but the powered device will be not be harmed. Sorry for being a pedant! -- chill chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
cliveb;314562 Wrote: > I'm with JJZolx on this. I'd be willing to take those annoying Squeezeboxes off your hands, clive and JJZ, so you can "get back to where you once belonged". -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
bigfool1956;314545 Wrote: > When my network is down I play vinyl... > I'll get me coat! I better join you, that's what I do too! Actually in process of ripping my vinyl to flac as well. Time consuming, but all my favourite music is on vinyl. -- TheLastMan Matt SB Duet, Synology Diskstation 107+ with FW 2.0-0600 SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 and SSODS 3 beta 13. Naim 72/HiCap/140 amp, B&W CM2 speakers. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
A better test would be to have somebody else switch the desktop on or off while you are in the listening room. Have that person log the time(s) the desktop was powered up/down, and have you log the time(s) any "not subtle" changes in the sound of your music system occurred. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] power supply upgrade for duet receiver
p-cubed;314503 Wrote: > iPhone, Thanks for the detailed response. Where did you find the current > spec for the Creation Audio supply? I couldn't find that anywhere > online. I am aware that the SBR expects a minimum supply rating of 550 > mA. > > As to my interest in upgrading the power supply: > > Just got the Duet about a week ago. I have added it to my main rig, and > while I love the convenience of the system, the sound leaves something > to be desired. > > The main rig is: Music Reference RM5 Mk III tube preamp -> McCormack > DNA-1 Rev A power amp -> B&W Nautilus 805 speakers. Cabling is Cardas > and Synergistic Research. AC Power is via a dedicated line, distributed > through a Furutech eTP-80 (except the power amp plugs straight into the > dedicated AC line). > > My digital source has been a Marantz DV-8400 Universal Disc player. > Power to that is through a JPS Digital Power Cable. The Marantz sits on > Aurios bearings. > > My discs have all been ripped with dbpoweramp CD ripper to FLAC. Played > back via the SBR through the main rig, compared with the same discs > through the Marantz, the sound is thinner harmonically, and the imaging > is less distinct. It is NOT bad, just not as good as what I'm used to. > > Which leads me back to the notion of upgrading the power supply. I > would expect that putting a nice DAC in the chain would be much more > effective, but I don't have the funds for that at present. I have > gotten lots of mileage from various cheap tweaks in the past, and am > just looking for one more! > > Thanks for your thoughts, > Earle You may need an upgraded linear power supply but you definitely do need an external dac to improve the sound. I tried my older SB3 analog out versus into Benchmark Dac 1 a few years ago and the SB3 needed to go into the dac to improve the sound. Linear supply is another matter - the differences with a cheaper power supply are not that great in my experience. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shopper connects to Jesus via Denon link cable
I am interested how much did they sell because of this much publicity. Audible tests of any cable, be it even analog, showed that there is no difference but still people buy them and this one won't be any different, you are just making them a favor. -- nuhi nuhi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10571 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49187 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
TheLastMan;314539 Wrote: > What a strange idea. For me, storage and browsing is the main problem > with CDs, they take up wall space that we don't have and wouldn't want > to cover in CDs anyway. Personally, I find them a pain to browse > through - squinting at the tiny writing on the spine. I'm with JJZolx on this. Having a wall full of CD spines allows for a browsing mode that simply isn't available via the SB remote, Controller or web interface. It happens when you feel like listening to some music, but haven't a clue what. So you walk up to your wall of CD spines and let the eyes just flit around at random, until you happen to come across something you feel like hearing. No linear browsing method gives quite the same experience. -- cliveb Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!
Whoopee, back in the UK for a whole week, that means real hifi, vinyl, transporter instead of duet, and whopping great speakers instead of headphones. I use a QNAP for a server, and I'm wired to and from the router (don't really want a wifi transceiver hovering above my pre-amp). The QNAP is in another room, with a large Dell desktop, which is also wired to the router. This room is on a different ring main to the hifi. So I'm sat listening to my TP wondering why sometimes it sounds good, but uninvolving, and at other times it sounds simply great. My mind is wandering because exactly then was one of the uninvolving times. Anyway I wander into the study to see how my spyware scan is doing, nothing found, and so the desktop is not required. I switch it off and go back to listening. Thing is, when I walk back into the room I'm staggered by the change in sound. Now the TP sounds great again. Clearly switching on and off the desktop affects the sound, and it's not subtle. Why on earth? I mean CAT5 is decoupled AFAIK. It's a different ring main, different room. BTW, I wasn't even looking for a change, or experimenting, I simply turned off the computer because I didn't need it running. I have no sensible explanation. All I know is I'll be making sure the desktop is off when I listen seriously in future. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49190 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
When my network is down I play vinyl... I'll get me coat! -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
JJZolx;314462 Wrote: > ...I was reminded once again of how much nicer it is to browse through a > wall full of actual CDs instead of using one of the Squeeze > interfaces... What a strange idea. For me, storage and browsing is the main problem with CDs, they take up wall space that we don't have and wouldn't want to cover in CDs anyway. Personally, I find them a pain to browse through - squinting at the tiny writing on the spine. Getting them in and out of the case is a fiddle and getting the booklet in and out threatens to destroy the booklet and/or case which would eventually disintegrate of its own accord anyway. I am still in the process of ripping my CD collection (only 50 to go...) and so am constantly reminded how much I -hate- CDs! The CD was such a backward step from vinyl LPs which are a joy to handle by comparison and actually take up less wall space than CDs if you have a large collection. I find it *much* easier than either CDs or LPs to browse through my server based music collection using the Duet controller. And we can save the wall space for art, photographs or books. I always browse using the "music folder" option and am very careful to save my CDs as \genre\band(or composer)\album\track.flac. That makes it a doddle to find whatever I want. If I want to randomly browse I just do that using the "albums" option on the controller which obviously mixes up classical, jazz, rock and pop in alphabetical order by album name - which is totally random! -- TheLastMan Matt SB Duet, Synology Diskstation 107+ with FW 2.0-0600 SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 and SSODS 3 beta 13. Naim 72/HiCap/140 amp, B&W CM2 speakers. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
JJZolx;314531 Wrote: > Not hardly. You're talking the opposite. Huh ? What I suggested would allow you to browse your music collection the way you you like to, by looking through your CDs, but play it back quickly and easily via your SB. - browse CDs - choose CD - wave CD at barcode scanner - chosen album starts playing on SB The best of both worlds. Anyway, it was a flippant, humorous comment not really intended to be taken seriously*... * though no doubt some geek out there has already implemented it ;) -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
andynormancx;314517 Wrote: > Nothing that a bar code scanner + database + a quick bit of code > couldn't fix ;) Not hardly. You're talking the opposite. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shopper connects to Jesus via Denon link cable
Ok. Hands up all you forum-people who've been having fun over at Amazon.com . . . http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/20/denon_cable/ -- morris_minor morris_minor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49187 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
JJZolx;314462 Wrote: > > (An aside: During the week of going "back" to CDs I was reminded once > again of how much nicer it is to browse through a wall full of actual > CDs instead of using one of the Squeeze interfaces. There are a lot of > wonderful advantages to PC based music systems, but browsing and > selecting something to listen to from a large music library is _not_ > one of them. For this reason alone, I'd be tempted to hang on to a > really good CD player instead of selling it. If you haven't played CDs > recently, you should try shutting down the SqueezeCenter server and > going back to CDs for a week or two. You might be surprised to find > that your listening habits, even (dare I say it) your satisfaction > level, may be different.) Nothing that a bar code scanner + database + a quick bit of code couldn't fix ;) -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Toslink or Digital Coax?
Iv'e never used toslink myself , always a decent coax or AES/EBU cable. However I have read many times the order of "goodness" of digital links in order of best to worse is 1) AT&T Glass (or theta laserlinque) 2) AES/EBU 110ohm 3) SPDIF 75 ohm 4) Toslink -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian DSP5000's "The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop" Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49147 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
