Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Transport?

2008-06-27 Thread vincentyan

Thanks a lot.  Yes my 2nd question is a bit complicated, but my first
question is straightforward: is the digital outputs of the SB3 the same
as that of the Transporter?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Transport?

2008-06-27 Thread sc53

I would also add that the Stereophile ratings are not a reliable index
of how good any piece of gear will sound in your system with your other
gear and, most importantly, YOUR ears and music preferences. Don't ever
base a decision on whether Stereophile rated something A or A+ or B or
whatever. As time goes on, Stereophile's reviewers have changed,
preferences have changed, ratings have tended to inflate, certain types
of gear are more popular than others, and a host of other factors
unconnected to how "good" any given piece will actually sound to you
and in comparison to some other piece you are considering. From all
I've read, if you are not going to use the Transporter's DAC, just buy
the SB3 or Duet. The Transporter's DAC is very good and many have found
it of comparable or better quality than the DAC they were using with
some other transport. The only way you are going to answer this
question is to buy a Transporter (hopefully a used one so you can save
some $$) and try it for yourself, A/B'ing with all your other gear. If
you don't think it superior, you will certainly be able to resell it
(eg on Audiogon) for what you paid. They are always snapped up when
they come up used on Audigon, usually for around $1600.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Transport?

2008-06-27 Thread adamslim

Complicated, and something you're only going to resolve with plenty of
listening!

Firstly, the Transporter might work for you.  Try it.  You might also
like to consider the modded products such as the Modwright Transporter
and the SB+.  If you go the DAC route, I would suggest one with a clock
output and slave the TP, but this does depend on the DAC.  If it -is
-doing its job properly, it should be independent of transport, but I
fear many/most/all do not.

Let us know how you get on!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Transport?

2008-06-27 Thread vincentyan

I have a DAC working with my SB3: a California Audio Lab CL-15 CD
player, with PSDIF digital input into its 20 bit DAC.   I have another
DAC in my home theater room: a Linn Unidisk SC, and I think that the
sound quality is about the same (well, sometimes I feel the CAL is
better, sometimes not).  I have been enjoying the good sound and the
convenience brought by the SB3 until I got a Sony XA9000ES SACD/CD
player - originally for playing SACD discs, then I found it is also an
excellent CD player.  Soon I feel that the sound of the Sony is better
than my SB3+CAL DAC, not a big difference, but distinct enough that I
found I tend to listen to the Sony more and more, with old fashioned
take_out_disc_from_the_shelf_and_put_it_into_the_CD tray, when I got
serious in listening.  There is no digital input on the Sony, by the
way.

My system consists of Conrad Johnson CT5 and LP70S amplifiers, Dynaudio
C4 speakers.  I ripped CDs with iTunes on my iMac and stream the music
to my SB3 via an 11g wireless router.  I don't hear much difference
between the SB3+CAL DAC and the CAL CD player playing the original CD
disc.

My question is: will the Transporter deliver better sound with its
digital output into my CAL DAC?  Before I purchased the SB3, I got
confirmation from the Slim Device tech support that the digital output
of the SB3 and Transport are the same.  Want to double check here.

2nd question: assuming TP analog output is not good enough compared
with my Sony (well, I make this assumption because Stereophile put the
TP at A class and the Sony at A+ class, I maybe wrong, bear with me),
how do I improve by combining the TP/SB3 with a high quality DAC? 
There are extensive discussions in this forum about using an external
word clock or a DAC with a clock output, and I agree with seanadams
that an external clock may generate more jitters.  So, the solution
seems to be 1) get a high quality DAC with clock output, and connect it
with the TP and put TP on slave (any suggestions on the brands?); 2) get
a high quality DAC with "re-clock" capability (I read somewhere that
Benchmark DAC-1 can do this.  Any suggestions?), and connect it with my
existing SB3 (or TP, if there is a difference in their digital output).

Dear Experts in this forum and Sean, any answers/comments to my
questions are much appreciated.

Vincent


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Amp Help

2008-06-27 Thread mudlark

Dunno,

You may find that you would get a better opinion from another forum.
Most here might feel that posting in the audiophile section is a bit
rich.

On a positive side it appears that the Cambridges both have pre outs if
you want to keep your Arcam connected.

Use the cambridge with the arcam set to a suitable volume for the
fronts.

The DAC in the Squeezebox is probably better than that in the cambridge
so use the sb connected directly to the Arcam.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Amp Help

2008-06-27 Thread tank121

Sadly no pre-amp

3 amps i'm waying up are 

Cambridge Audio Azur 540r
640r

Onkyo 606

Any comments ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Amp Help

2008-06-27 Thread mudlark

Doesn't the sony have pre amp outputs that can feed the alpha?That would
give you the best of the alpha if the sony pre amp is OK


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Amp Help

2008-06-27 Thread atchi123

at that price i sincerely doubt it. to get good stereo performance
through an av amp you need to spend quite a lot >£500 at least. I've
got an Onkyo 805 and I believe the stereo performance is quite good but
the amp is pricey.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sometimes I really don't get it!

2008-06-27 Thread CardinalFang

bigfool1956;314547 Wrote: 
> Thing is, when I walk back into the room I'm staggered by the change in
> sound. Now the TP sounds great again. Clearly switching on and off the
> desktop affects the sound, and it's not subtle. Why on earth? I mean
> CAT5 is decoupled AFAIK. It's a different ring main, different room.

The only other long-shot theory I can add to the most likely
explanation that it's mains-borne interference is that perhaps the PC
is either clogging up the router with lots of activity or that the PC
is trying to talk to the TP through network tools of some sort, both of
which causing higher processing requirements from the TP. Neither of
these things should make any difference, but is there the possibility
that excessive network activity could affect PSUs within the TP and
therefore impact sound? I'm sure they're all decoupled from each other,
so as I said, this is highly unlikely. Has anyone else noticed a
difference when TPs are in high traffic networks?


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Amp Help

2008-06-27 Thread tank121

I currently have 2 amps Sony STR-DG910 for home cinema. 2 channel direct
performance is poor.

Arcam Alhpa 7 for squeezebox.

Currently i am swapping my front channel speaker connections depending
on what activity i am undertaking. 

My question is this, is there 1 av amp that will replace both amps and
give a similar performance to the Arcam alpha 7 with a squeezebox. 

My budget is up to £300.00


Thanks in advance


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