Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
agentsmith;390099 Wrote: > Sorry I did not read thru the whole thread. So you did not think it > made enough of a difference. > > Like I said, A/B test of source component is always inconclusive for > me. But I guess if you are content with what you already had than good > for you. It just was not a noticebale enough improvement for me in my setup to justify the cost difference between the SB3 & TP. -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
tcutting;390087 Wrote: > If you got it new from Logitech, don't you have a 30 day trial? I actually received it from a friend who got it discounted through his work. Sorry for the confusion. -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
Sorry I did not read thru the whole thread. So you did not think it made enough of a difference. Like I said, A/B test of source component is always inconclusive for me. But I guess if you are content with what you already had than good for you. -- agentsmith System 1: Transporter, Naim 202/200/Hicap/NAPSC, Harbeth Monitor 30 System 2: SB2 connected via TOSLINK to a Meridian F80 agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
Comparing digital sources is a funny thing. I tried A/B'ing digital sources and they all sounded the same with AB tests. But it only takes a couple of days to realize the sound differences. If your experience is like mine, the Transporter stopped my endless upgrade itch. In the past 2 years I have bought 3 different DACs to mate with my SB2, including Benchmark, Lavry and beresford. All left me want for more. To me the Transporter sounds more open and more detailed than all of the above. I am no good with describing sound but for me a piano sounds like more like the real thing, and violin sounds less edgy. Overall I am a satisfied customer. Since you have bought one you'd be the best judge. I would be interested to know what you think. -- agentsmith System 1: Transporter, Naim 202/200/Hicap/NAPSC/Ariva System 2: SB2 connected via TOSLINK to a Meridian F80 agentsmith's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
If you got it new from Logitech, don't you have a 30 day trial? -- tcutting tcutting's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and balanced headphone
I prefer to have a lower output impedance drive for headphones, than the 100 ohms from a transporters analog out's, so while this may work, I don't really think it's optimal... -- DCtoDaylight Audiophile wish list: Zero Distortion, Infinite Signal to Noise Ratio, and a Bandwidth from DC to Daylight DCtoDaylight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28236 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter volume control setting
That's great to know. Thanks. -- Rocket Rocket's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23381 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58679 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and balanced headphone
Yup. I'm doing this with a Senn HD-650 and a Stefan Audioart mod cable. It's great. The gain level is ok, unless you like it to hurt :). -- Rocket Rocket's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23381 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28236 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice on pro studio monitor vs consumer hifi amp + speakers
As an update to this I found some nice looking used speakers on audiogon, so decided to get them. Not arrived yet though, and even when they do, I won't be in a position to compare them to similarly priced studio monitors. I also came across this review: http://www.computeraudiophile.com/avi-adm-9-1-review The reviewer seems very impressed, and those speakers would certainly make a very neat solution when paired with a squeezebox. -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58179 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
Nows the time to treat yourself to a nice new pair of speakers with the cash you saved. Or a turntable Or... Or.. Or. Ach, get summit nice for the Missus! -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and balanced headphone
I was getting ready to ask the same question can anyone answer this? I have run my HD650s off my Duet's analogue output but I've been looking at the Lavry or Benchmark option as a headphone amp. It occurred to me that if I could run the HD650s with a balanced cable, and the Transporter is internally balanced then in one fell swoop I could have everything I'm looking for. -- Suprlite7 Main ~ Duet-Bel Canto DAC3-Bel Canto Pre3-Bel Canto Ref1000s-Gallo Reference 3.1 Headphone ~ Duet-Glow Amp One-Sennheiser HD650 and Etymotic ER-4S Suprlite7's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28236 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BBC - higher bit rate
rbl;389267 Wrote: > Do you know if FM is signficantly better than DAB / internet strreaming? > I used to use a Quad FM4 many years ago but always found it to be pretty > poor quality compared to CD. Haven't used it in years and would need to > get an aerial etc. to fire it up again... With a decent aerial and good source material, FM should outperform DAB or internet radio. However, the source material quality is getting a lot worse - I now find that the only decent quality is Radio 3 evening stuff, as even this station is frequently cursed with compression during 'drive time' programmes. The ability to get decent bandwidth internet radio is a compelling advatage for the Squeezebox. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell, Ack Dac, Audion Quattro, Welborne DRD 300Bs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45881 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Am I imagining this? Squeezecentre 7.3 sounds worse than 7.2.1?
darthkringle;389650 Wrote: > In reading through this thread, I "think" that most of the perceived > differences come down to settings; however, being an audio purist and > being quite happy with 7.2.1, I am hesitant to move to 7.3.2 in fear of > compromising audio quality in ANY way. Am I being paranoid? 7.3.2 plays DTS and AC-3 files without trouble in my setup, which tells me it's serving up the bits accurately and unchanged. -- atrocity atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter volume control setting
For the digital output variable at max and fixed at max are exactly the same - proven by HDCD and DTS decoding, neither of which work if "variable at max" was even a tiny bit different! I would fully expect the analogue output to exhibit the same behaviour. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58679 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
Forgot to post this: Transporter for sale link on audiogon: http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlconv&1238023969&/Logitech/Slim-Devices-transpor -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
bigbwb;389916 Wrote: > well here are my thoughts after the TP arrived. > > I hooked the TP up to my 2ch proceed preamp via the analog connections > just as i had my current SB3 connected to utilize their internal DACS. > I then level matched the Sb & TP so my wife and I would not be fooled > by which is better/worse based on how loud one might be. We both > listened to dozens of differenent tracks and we both switched the input > back/forth between the two. To be perfectly honest, I struggled to > notice a difference. I believe the TP had a quieter noise floor and > maybe a bit warmer/natural sound but again very very minimal > differences. > > I realized that day how well the SB3 performs considering its cost > compared to the TP. > > therefore I am selling the TP and keeping the SB. Its Brand new, > silver, and was only used for less than a few hours. All oringinal > packaging & etc are included. I would like to get around $1550 plus > shipping costs & etc for it. > > Thanks, > Brandon Interesting conclusion. I'm sure that will kick off a debate. :) In the meantime, I agree that level matching is vital for comparison. Well done on that score. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) -> PMC AB-1 Dell laptop -> JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Am I imagining this? Squeezecentre 7.3 sounds worse than 7.2.1?
Labarum;389896 Wrote: > Well "Cogito ergo sum" or "Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must be > silent" would be better examples of the snappy. > > They don't make them like they used to. :) -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) -> PMC AB-1 Dell laptop -> JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
Gazjam;389933 Wrote: > Wow! > > And thats using the SB3s own internal Dac... > Good to know my SB3 through a my DAC is a viable hifi source. > > > Good luck with the sale Brandon! > Shame your going to take a hit on what you paid for it though... Thanks! Maybe someone with a more revealing setup or better ears will appreciate this neat piece of equipment:) If money was not an object, i would have kept it, but the money can now go for a different upgrade elsewhere. -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
Wow! And thats using the SB3s own internal Dac... Good to know my SB3 through a my DAC is a viable hifi source. Good luck with the sale Brandon! Shame your going to take a hit on what you paid for it though... -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter on the way vs my exsisting SB3
well here are my thoughts after the TP arrived. I hooked the TP up to my 2ch proceed preamp via the analog connections just as i had my current SB3 connected to utilize their internal DACS. I then level matched the Sb & TP so my wife and I would not be fooled by which is better/worse based on how loud one might be. We both listened to dozens of differenent tracks and we both switched the input back/forth between the two. To be perfectly honest, I struggled to notice a difference. I believe the TP had a quieter noise floor and maybe a bit warmer/natural sound but again very very minimal differences. I realized that day how well the SB3 performs considering its cost compared to the TP. therefore I am selling the TP and keeping the SB. Its Brand new, silver, and was only used for less than a few hours. All oringinal packaging & etc are included. I would like to get around $1550 plus shipping costs & etc for it. Thanks, Brandon -- bigbwb bigbwb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17407 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58311 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Am I imagining this? Squeezecentre 7.3 sounds worse than 7.2.1?
darrenyeats;389893 Wrote: > Like most philosophical texts, snappy, to the point and with a clearly > written summary. Well "Cogito ergo sum" or "Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must be silent" would be better examples of the snappy. -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7510 MK6/4 - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s German Tower Loudspeakers. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Am I imagining this? Squeezecentre 7.3 sounds worse than 7.2.1?
Labarum;389807 Wrote: > > > http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/realism/ Like most philosophical texts, snappy, to the point and with a clearly written summary. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) -> PMC AB-1 Dell laptop -> JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Am I imagining this? Squeezecentre 7.3 sounds worse than 7.2.1?
I totally agree with that Brian, thats what I was trying to say. :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Am I imagining this? Squeezecentre 7.3 sounds worse than 7.2.1?
Gazjam;389791 Wrote: > Something being "just in your head" makes it ASOLUTELY REAL ...to you. > > And no-one can tell you different. ;-) http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/realism/ -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7510 MK6/4 - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s German Tower Loudspeakers. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Am I imagining this? Squeezecentre 7.3 sounds worse than 7.2.1?
Heres another Pat, Something being "just in your head" makes it ASOLUTELY REAL ...to you. And no-one can tell you different. ;-) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter volume control setting
I have a related question, that someone here might have an answer for. I use the digital outputs from the TP with an external dac and a pre-amp. I also like to use the analog outputs from the TP for connecting to a set of headphones I use occasionally. At earlier firmware releases the digital output could be "Fixed" while the analog output leveles still could be adjusted via the remote. That's not the case anymore. It would be useful for me to set the the TP to variable output volume (adjusting both digital and analog outputs as it is now) and leave it at maximum volume exept when using the headphones. I wonder, if I use variable volume setting at max volume (0.00 dB), will the signal quality be exactly the same as if I set it to fixed, or will the fixed setting be the best quality ? Regards -- Rocket Rocket's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23381 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58679 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox upgrades
An anechoic chamber could drive you mad, it generates such a feeling of unease. Maybe that was my point. I knew an engineer once who worked on high power RF transmitters. He said sometimes he felt so wound up he would go an sit in a screened room (Faraday Cage) until he calmed down. RF radiation does more than upset electronics. Both my comments were said tongue in cheek. -- Labarum Brian Squeezebox 3 Classic and Virgin Cable Box Beresford DAC TC-7510 MK6/4 - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man Quart 980s German Tower Loudspeakers. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54335 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
