Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
U.huh? -- richardw richardw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
richardw;565136 Wrote: > 2 things I agree with...the TP is very sensitive to power cables and > digital cables. I have had great success improving performance with > changing both. Not much on fuses and did not get any impact from wired > vs wireless. The cable changes were night and day. I have been ripped > in this particular forum for discussing it so typically I save that for > audiophile forums Since the cable change differences were "night and day" I guess you'd be happy to try a DBT and would be confident you'd score 100/100? After all, no one is ever going to confuse night and day are they? Steve. -- SteveEast Home: 3*SB3, 1*Boom, 4*Radio running 7.4.1 on Acer Aspire easyStore H340 WHS. Cabin: 1*Touch running 7.5.0 on itself. SteveEast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
earwaxer9;565270 Wrote: > The "senior members" are starting to weigh in! - as predicted! Actually, I saw a post by Sean here telling that WiFi may leak some RF noise into signal... at least in theory, wired connection has an advantage -- michael123 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
iPhone;565187 Wrote: > Troll. The above is complete rubbish without fact or even common sense. > > ' Power Cords ' (http://sound.westhost.com/cables-p4.htm#power) > > There is absolutely no difference between WiFi and Ethernet fed > Transporter as far as the resulting audio. The link is Data not analog > music. The "senior members" are starting to weigh in! - as predicted! -- earwaxer9 earwaxer9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
michael123;565101 Wrote: > Why do you think that Transporter is "she"? Ok - good point. She has some nice curved corners - handles (love handles maybe), Light in the hand, easy to pick up, no big honkin heat sinks or power supplies. A nice "dial" - A nice perky pair of antennae if I might be so bold! Plus - she's heady - a real thinker. More chips than brawn. A car analogy - she would be a sport coupe. No honking king cap pickup here. A smooth inline 6. Maybe a turbo. Definitely a dame! -- earwaxer9 earwaxer9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
Phil Leigh;565217 Wrote: > Gaz - stop futzing with your File Types - the defaults are fine - > honestly! end of futzing. :) Route to midnight = Red Wine and Eric Bibb at 24/96. I'll be fine in the morning doc.. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
Gazjam;565216 Wrote: > oh yeah, course it is... > > thats whats good about these forums! Gaz - stop futzing with your File Types - the defaults are fine - honestly! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
oh yeah, course it is... thats whats good about these forums! -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
MAD is a decoder for mp3 claiming superior decoding due to using high accurately 24bit and is build into the device. Using lame as decoder is said to be of less quality. Not that it really matters. I bet people will hear lame on server streamed as wav is better then MAD native cause of CPU load ;) Next step is MAD decode on server... At least it is fun sometimes to read what people think to hear with all this ;) -- Wombat Transporter -> RG142 -> Avantgarde based monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
you hijacking my thread? ;) Whats the MAD decoder? -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
Sorry, i won´t help you with that GPU load thingy. When we are at it, doesn´t the touch still use the Mad decoder internaly? -- Wombat Transporter -> RG142 -> Avantgarde based monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
Just a wee quick question about settings? Trying to get MP3 to be decoded on teh server rather than the Touch if possible. My Advanced/File types/ settings are as follows.. ** My Advanced/File Settings/FLAC reads: Flac: Native MP3: Flac/Lame PCM: Flac My Advanced/File Settings/MP3 reads: MP3: Disabled ** Now, I set MP3: Disabled as I had assumed adding lame.exe in the SB install folder and adding a custom config would tell squeezecentre to use Lame to decode MP3 files... BUT, when setting MP3: Disabled (in the MP3 NOT Flac section) my Touch says "cannot play file type"??? If I set MP3: Native (rather than disabled) it would probably work, but wouldnt it mean MP3 decoded on teh TOuch natively rather than using Lame on the server? *Lame installed in \server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread *custom-convert.conf insalled in \server\ -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
Phil Leigh;565204 Wrote: > excellent idea! - me too :-) You Greenwich Mean Time guys! Its hours before beer or wine:30 here ;=} Enjoy the music and spirits! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
Gazjam;565195 Wrote: > Thanks very much - I've made those changes, off for a listen with a > glass of wine! > > Cheers > > Gaz. excellent idea! - me too :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
Thanks very much - I've made those changes, off for a listen with a glass of wine! Cheers Gaz. -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
Gazjam;564983 Wrote: > Hi Phil.. > > I'm decoding my Flac files on my server (as opposed to on the Touch > natively) to reduce the load on the Touch CPU (See "Software mods" for > the Touch..) > Have I set up Squeezebox server wrong for this? > (I had assumed I had the server doftware set up for best audio > quality?) > > The files are Flac 24/96, about 151MB in size. > > More info: > Sample Rate: 96 Khz > Sample Size: 24 Bits > > ..it was the "converted to" that had me curious...that and the fact it > seemed to be downsampling to 1411kbps? > But if I dont need to worry about it...cool! > > Just wanting to ensure my Touch is set up to play the hires files > properly. > > Thanks! The Kbps meter is not accurate. If it says 24/96, then you are OK. Don't change the FLAC to PCM. I prefer: FLAC=Native MP3=FLAC/lame PCM=FLAC If one is not running TinySC, don't worry about the CPU load on the Touch. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
earwaxer9;565062 Wrote: > Ok - first I'll start with the stuff that will keep the boikers in their > britches. No arguments here. Dudes - replace the POS fuse in the > Transporter with a audiphile grade fuse. Big difference! Next - if you > havent already - for the love of god - give the Transporter a nice > power cord! Its not too much to ask! I went high end with JPS labs, but > thats me. > > What I mean is she likes her input WIRED, and I mean eternet baby! > Forget wireless. Its nice. No commitment. But ethernet is were the bits > are. Its all there and then some. Ok - next - This is totally frikin > nuts! She likes it in high res! Why should it matter? It is only > 16/44.8 to start with! Dont ask me. So - ok - i ripped my whole frikin > cd collection to 24/96 with dbpoweramp. Well, not the whole thing, but > the stuff I really listen to on a regular basis. Like Floyd etc. Big > ass files - Each album is a couple of gigs. NUTS - but anything to keep > my lady happy. But we all know, its all about ME anyway! It always is. > > So that sums it up - makes no real sense - try it and see what you > think. In summary - Ethernet much better than WIFI, upconverted CD to > 24bit/96khz over ethernet mucho mucho better! Get rid of the cheap > fuse. Give it a good digital cord. > > peace Troll. The above is complete rubbish without fact or even common sense. ' Power Cords ' (http://sound.westhost.com/cables-p4.htm#power) There is absolutely no difference between WiFi and Ethernet fed Transporter as far as the resulting audio. The link is Data not analog music. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?
hey, don't knock it till you've tried it :P The best I've heard yet was some fool (apparently an audio engineer by profession before dedicating himself to making hi-fi and speaker stands) trying to tell me that placing my NAS on top one of his "sound structures" would noticeably enhance the sonic performance of my system. This despite my protestations that the devices are networked and the fact that the NAS and Transporter use my home electrical circuit as a network and are located about 40m apart in entirely different sections of my home. Needless to say the conversation ended quickly and I never purchased a sound structure, not the rear wall speaker mounts for my home theater that caused me to call him in the first place. -- audiomuze '*puddletag: A tag editor for Linux (that happens to run on OS X)*' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/) audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?
*dp* -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help needed: convert 24 bit WMA Lossless into WAV
Since this thread has been spammed many, many times in the more than three years it's been around, I'm taking the liberty of closing it. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta, PQP1 - early beta), SBC (early beta), Squeezebox Radio (PB1 - early beta), Squeezebox Touch (late beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help needed: convert 24 bit WMA Lossless into WAV
For me MelodyCan is the best software for different players. It can remove drm and convert files to different formats. You can try it_)) -- SomeM SomeM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39539 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?
surprised they haven't thrown in "defeats Alien crosstalk" somewhere... -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?
funkstar;565152 Wrote: > Just like every other cable that conforms to the Cat5 spec. > > Oh dear. My thoughts precisely ;) -- Stratmangler There is no element of personal attack in my response. Stratmangler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?
> Critical Twist Geometry: Each pair has a different twist rate to prevent > inter-channel interference. Just like every other cable that conforms to the Cat5 spec. Oh dear. -- funkstar '[project log] funkstars digital lifestyle' (http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-lifestyle/179882-project-log-funkstars-digital-lifestyle.html) - 'hexus.community' (http://forums.hexus.net/) *in use:* *1*x touch, *1*x boom, *2*x sb3, *1*x controller *in a box:* *1*x radio, *1*x (beta) controller, *1*x receiver, *1*x sb2 wired (silver), *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) if you have any others, let me know, i'm interested!! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
2 things I agree with...the TP is very sensitive to power cables and digital cables. I have had great success improving performance with changing both. Not much on fuses and did not get any impact from wired vs wireless. The cable changes were night and day. I have been ripped in this particular forum for discussing it so typically I save that for audiophile forums -- richardw richardw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/96 Lossless material being downsampled?
Phil? -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80778 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
While you are tweaking you should try reversing the direction of the fuse and also the mains live/neutral polarity... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
Why do you think that Transporter is "she"? -- michael123 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
earwaxer9;565062 Wrote: > > Ethernet much better than WIFI, > I have tried, and could not hear any difference at all. earwaxer9;565062 Wrote: > > upconverted CD to 24bit/96khz > Well, in a way its not that surprising that such a modification of the source-material results in a different sound - interesting that you feel its become so in a positive way. earwaxer9;565062 Wrote: > > Give it a good digital cord. > Have tried with supposedly (i.e. expensive and favorably spoken of) good digital chords and ditto power chords. Again, in my case no difference at all... But if you're happy with it - its all worth it by definition :) -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80789 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Streaming File Identifier
I don't understand the question - could you explain a bit more? -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80783 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What are you feeding your Transporter?
On 29/07/10 05:15, earwaxer9 wrote: You should try one of these too: http://www.divineaudio.co.uk/networking/cables/audioquest-cat5e-ethernet-cable-12m/prod_1910.html R. -- "Feed that ego and you starve the soul" - Colonel J.D. Wilkes http://www.theshackshakers.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
