Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amps and Adjectives, your insights?
1. Higher damping factor usually means tigther and better impulse response, or put it another way to low damping factor is flabby and uncontrolled bass, but this also depends on wich speaker you attempt to drive. Ouch http://www.stereophile.com/content/paradigm-reference-studio100-v3-loudspeaker-measurements Your speaker have a very complex impedance plot and are down at 2,5 ohm and complex 3 rd order fillters. i would try a stable and powerfull amp here brand names ? I'm not good at that game anymoore but Bryston is always mentioned if one whats technically well designed amps, wich is the kind of amp such speakers need. 4. House sound ? Imho there are some traps comparing stuff in a shop " exciting " would often be irritating in your face sound in the long run. The more bland initially uninvoling thing may be the more correct rendering of the recording , you need to take some amps home and try for a longer time with your normal way of listening. Also modern well designed ( no voodoo engineering ) amps should be very similar to each other if used inside their design parameters, not clipping etc . Your speaker seems capable of weeding out such amps that does not perform well :) There is a myth that powerfull amps sounds " powerfull " and not as refined as a smaller amp. It's the oposite, if the amp can drive the speaker at any level you would get a more relaxed and unstrained sound. physics wins, no selecting of audiophile components can compensate for lack of power. Ofcourse if you are listening at low levels in a small room you migth not need the most powerfull amps. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88452 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Well guys, its not taking long for me to think about next steps. I see here (http://diyparadise.com/blogs/2010/05/08/opened-up-the-squeezebox-touch/) a pic of the Touch with clothing removed. Anyone know of any instructions on the net where the undressing procedure is outlined? I take it a hammer is not advised.. AB. -- Audio Bling Audio Bling's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47703 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
Ok, so ABX, is probably what we will do. Tom is the main person to try to tell A from B... I'm sure there will be others that will want to join in for the test. It should be a fun test, and i expect some very positive results on favor of the Transpoter. -- Toy Maker (2) Squeezebox3's - (1) Transporter2 - 7TB Acer Home Server - iPad - iPeng And more toys than any one person should be aloud to own. Toy Maker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amps and Adjectives, your insights?
If you are happy with your preamp, it would be a no brainer for me to go with one of the wyrd4sound amps, or sell your preamp and get their integrated. W4S has reviewed very well and is very reasonably priced. They use the ICE chip. Not sure how they stack up to the higher power T-amps. Personally I would go with some of the "kit" amps out there and play around with them. Most people are not into all that. I like to tinker around with a soldering iron. Bottom line - you can get a fantastic sounding 200+ wpc amp for hundreds, not thousands if you are willing to tinker a bit. -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords, Silver audio interconnect, Audioquest Granite speaker cable. earwaxer9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88452 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 24bit/192kHz Squeezebox Product
JohnSwenson;636378 Wrote: > Of course there are no standards for any of this so one would have to be > devised and then software and hardware written to support it. > > It COULD work but would take a lot of effort and would probably need > some very enthusiastic group of people to push it through and probably > provide the funds to implement things. > > Any of you that want this so much willing to take it on? > In my case it's less a question of whether or not I'd be willing than whether or not I'd be able. It would be completely over my head. Really, I'm just dreaming about what (if anything) Logitech releases for its next generation product. It would be nice to have support for anything we're able to rip from a disc. I can currently play 5.1 DVD back from my computer into my receiver via HDMI, but it seems that sometimes it works and sometimes it stutters. Something as rock-solid as a Squeezebox would be most welcome, partly for the reliability and partly for the ability to maintain a single library with both standard and multichannel music. -- atrocity atrocity's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88056 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amps and Adjectives, your insights?
I've got a similar front end as you...Touch & Rega DAC. Just this afternoon, I received an LFD LE IV amplifier. It's a little over your price range but not by much. I've had it running for just a couple hours and already I can say that it's magicabsolutely no comparison to the Marantz I was using. It's woken up my system in a remarkable way and it's not even burned in, yet. If you can audition one somehow, run (really, really fast!), don't walk, to give it a try. Having said that, you've got to be able to live with a minimalist approach to the "bells and whistles" in return for stunning sound. There's no remote, and no tone or balance controlsjust a flat-out gorgeous musical output. They're hand-made in England one at a time by the designer/engineer. The front panel as an on/off toggle switch, a lovely feeling volume control, source switching knob, a very small blue LED, and knob to control tape input/monitoring if one were to so desire. That's it... If you're in the US, there is both an East Coast (Fidelis in N.H.) and West Coast (Gene Rubin Audio) distributor. Give one of them a call and have a chatI also looked at Primare, NAD, and Luxman but the sheer musicality of the LFM has me quite dumbstruck at the moment. You can read some stuff about it in Sterophile and a few other places. Don't bother to look for specs on it, the company doesn't believe in that sort of marketing. The manual is one photocopied pageactually a bit refreshing. If you have any specific questions feel free to PM me. -- rgro Rick System information Main: PS Audio Quintet > Vortexbox > Touch (wired) via spdif coax > Rega DAC > Marantz PM8003 > VA Mozart Grands > REL Acoustics R305. Home Theatre: SBR (Wired) > Pioneer VSX 919 > Energy Take 5 Classic 5.1. SBS 7.5.4 r32298 running on a Vortexbox Appliance, V 1.9. Touch w/Hardware V.5. Touch: FW 7.5.4 r9408. Duet: FW 68. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88452 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
A router is definitely not required, but there are two requirements: at least one of the devices has an auto sensing port (common on devices these days) and both devices are on the same subnet. The second requirement is usually taken care of by a DHCP server which assigns IP addresses to both the laptop and the Touch. The DHCP server is usually in the router, but it doesn't HAVE to be, its certainly possible to have a DHCP server running on the laptop. Alternatively you can setup static IP address for both the laptop and the Touch in which case you don't even need the DHCP server. Yes the Touch DOES have to connect to the internet at least once for initial setup, but after that a laptop running SBS and a wire direct to the Touch is a perfectly viable way to run a minimal setup. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
Rodney_Gold;637691 Wrote: > I use the same type of table you use as a hifi stand in my upstairs > lounge for my no vent gas fire - Probably puts out less heat than those > amps :) Some happy dogs!! -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amps and Adjectives, your insights?
Hello, I'd appreciate some perspective from forum members on what to look for in new 2 channel amplification. I guess I am getting bamboozled by some of the descriptive terms used by reviewers describing the quality of amplifiers and need some perspective. Background: solid state amp wanted to replace a Creek 5350SE driving Paradigm Studio 100v3 floor standers (nasty low impedance at below 200Hz, so high current and output impedance required). Squeezebox Touch via Rega DAC will be the source. I'd like to spend under $3k in the US, but could stretch this a bit for the right product. Questions: 1) I consider the Creek 5350SE to be on the warm side of neutral, but so is the Rega DAC. Should I try to fix this by going to a more accurate, detailed and analytic amplifier solution? Or will higher power (and higher damping factor) get me in that direction be default? 2) I want better L/R channel balance than I am used to with the Alps motorized volume pot in the passive-pre of the Creek, or at least a balance control to fix up any offset that might be there. Will it be worth looking for an amplifier or pre-amp with switched resistor attenuators for volume control to address this problem? Do I have to go way up-market to find this? 3) The last time I auditioned integrated amplifiers in a store, I listened to Naim Nait, Arcam and Creek amplifiers. I found the Arcam (A90) too polite and didn't engage me musically as much as the Creek or the Naim. Does this kind of "house sound" still persist today and is it a valid way to down-select among brands? 4) Any specific model suggestions? TIA. -- dsdreamer -- "Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you..." dsdreamer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12588 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88452 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
I use the same type of table you use as a hifi stand in my upstairs lounge for my no vent gas fire - Probably puts out less heat than those amps :) +---+ |Filename: IMG_1601.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12015| +---+ -- Rodney_Gold TP/Z-sys RDP1 digital Pre/Meridian DSP5500's Or TP/DSP5500's Touch/Emotiva X-DA1 dac/bryston 4bst/Canton Ergo 120 dc SB3/Meridian DSP5000's TP/ Emotiva X-da1/Woo Audio Wa2 Headphone amp/Sehneisser Hd800's Touch/KrK Ergo/KrK VXT8 actives + 10S sub "The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop" Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
darrenyeats;637602 Wrote: > Yes. Of course, damping the space with bass treatments will have a > different effect to bass EQ. Each approach will have some effect both > in time and frequency response but not an equivalent effect. > Darren Precisely ( I know you know this). I was just reminding everyone you can't treat them in isolation. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16295 -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
Toy Maker;637680 Wrote: > Please explain what a ABx test is?? > > Yes Tom will know when I am switching sources. For an explanation of ABX test, see 'adamslim's post' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=637567) just a few posts above (#22). Or wikipedia's entry is decent: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABX_test If you don't do ABX, then are you going to do several trials, randomizing which source is A and which source is B, so that if Tom detects a difference then you can see whether he consistently prefers one over the other (this is another of adamslim's good suggestions above)? Or are you sometimes going to not really switch inputs when you say you're switching, to see if he reports a difference even when it's the same source? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
Yes most of our equipment is Carver... We have a few nice pieces of equipment. [image: http://carveraudio.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=3053] Please explain what a ABx test is?? Yes Tom will know when I am switching sources. Hahahaha... The $300 Sennheisers... Those were the junk ones. I sold a set of HE-90's a few months ago on eBay for $11,400 wish I had a dozen of those laying around !!! -- Toy Maker (2) Squeezebox3's - (1) Transporter2 - 7TB Acer Home Server - iPad - iPeng And more toys than any one person should be aloud to own. Toy Maker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
