[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter - distortion problem
I've started having trouble with my Transporter (again). This morning I had to turn the power completely of, i.e., to the entire house. Prior to doing this the unit was already off and I turned it off at the wall. When the power was restored I turned everything back on "nicely". My problem is that the music is very distorted whenever it rises above medium output levels. I've tried everything I can can think off, including a reloading the firmware (via holding the brightness button) to a factory reset. Nothing has worked. I had this trouble once before and reloading the firmware fixed it but I'm pretty sure that the way I reloaded it was different. IIRC the unit said that the firmware was already up to date but did I want to "update" it anyway. I'm not sure if that is different to the "brightness method". Firmware is version 82 and, if it matters, the server is a ReadyNAS. Help, PLEASE! -- gone_bush gone_bush's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88806 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Spotify versus Rhapsody Audio Quality
I seem to like the sound quality of Spotify better but the search and save functionality of Rhapsody is much superior Unless I am missing something about Spotify that has not been pointed out to me, saving an entire album from Spotify is impossible, unless you use the "save to favorites" function. Finding an album is easier with Rhapsody too as far as I can tell (composer,album name,artist,track name). -- Ikabob Ikabob Squeezebox Touch w/SBS; SAE Amplifier;Marantz Pre-amp;ESS Heil Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers). Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; SB3; Services:Rhapsody; Sky.com; Spotify; Sirius services; Ipeng remote controller. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88799 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
Yes I have posted on this before, and no my views have not changed. The power cord is part of the connection between boxes, a conduit for picking up external noise, radiating noise and part of the electrical resonances formed with the components and wiring in the walls etc. All of these aspects can be modified by the materials and construction of the power cord. In any situation there are multiple ways in which a power cord is interacting with the system (see above list), these interactions are going to be different in every system. Well I suppose if you had a system that was in an environment that had NO RF fields at all in the area, and EVERY component plugged into the house injected NO noise into the system and EVERY component plugged in had NO resonances in it's power circuit from DC to hundreds of MHz, then maybe you could say that a power cord had no theoretical way of affecting a system. The probability of that happening is EXTREMELY low. So I'm going to say that in any real world situation the differeing electrical properties of different power cords will have some affect on the system. This affect is going to be different for every system so its almost impossible to predict what particular type of cord is going to be best with any particular component and system. In addition you frequently wind up with a situation where something that cuts down on lower frequency interactions between components (say 100KHZ) may increase the resonances at higher frequencies (say 10MHz). As to the response about the wiring in the wall, power cords can be very important with that. The wiring in the wall is an unterminated transmission line at RF frequencies, the power cord plugged into a componant can play a MAJOR role in how that RF gets coupled into a component. This one is actually quite easy to see. Put a spectrum analyser (with appropriate high pass filter so the 60HZ doesn't go directly into the input) across the primary terminls of the power transformer. You will see LOTS of stuff there. Try different power cords, those patterns will change significantly. OK, so what about using a power filter? You still will have a fair amount of stuff. It WILL be less in some areas, but no design is completely effective and for many of them it actually gets worse in some areas. The power cord will STILL make a difference. Certainly not the SAME difference. This is just one aspect of how power cords intereact with a system, there are many more. And of course every system is going to be affected by these changes in deifferent ways. In one system these RF differences may make a significant difference in sound and in others it may not. Same with other interactions a power cord can have. Please note: I am NOT advocating $1000 power cords! I AM saying that power cords CAN make a difference, and these differences can be heard with inexpensive cords, it does NOT take super expensive ones to make a difference. So if you are into trying to get the best sound possible out of your system its probably worthwhile to try some different cords in different locations in your system and see if it makes any difference, it might make no difference, or you might be pleasantly surprised by the improvement. Because of the complex intereactions there is no way to tell without actually doing it. I think the best way to do this is NOT to buy "audiophile" cables, but go to a computer store, a hardware store, a department store etc and buy 5 inexpensive power cords from different manufacturers, the probability of them all being exactly the same is low. If you do this you won't run into the "the expensive cord has to sound better" phenomanum because they are all cheap! Try them in different configurations and see if you notice any difference. In my system I CAN hear differences in power cords, even with the transformers damped. Its not huge, no night and day difference, but its there and has been worth while, the system sounds a little bit better and it cost about $100 to do the testing. For me it was worth it. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Spotify versus Rhapsody Audio Quality
I don't know what the percentage is, but I've been pleasantly surprised that every time I've bothered to look during my playing around so far (ie, since last night) they've all been 320k. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88799 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
Wombat;640919 Wrote: > Something Off Topic. > I see that some reviewers and well regarded Hi-Fi authors from the past > these days still hear things they write about and describe fine > differences. These people must be in the end of their 50s now or even > older. > I have the feeling they fool themself often enough cause their "best > ear days" are long gone. Some may have very good measuring equipment > and measure things that no human may ever hear but when measured once > they really believe to hear it. > Especialy for these people it is time for real abx testing for an eye > opener. hear, hear, he said wistfully. At age 65 my high end has rolled off to 12.5 khz. -- MichaelJ MichaelJ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records FLAC 24bit 44.1kHz to DVD Audio???
Hmm if it only is stereo tracks ? The plain DVD(V) standard supports 2ch 24bit up to 192k PCM track. i have some of those discs. This oportunity is only abused by some audiophile disc labels, a mastering of a movie must be way more economical with the quite limited space on a dvd disc. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38947 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Spotify versus Rhapsody Audio Quality
I read that everything in the Spotify catalog is not available in the high (320kbps) bitrate. Does anybody know what percentage of the catalog is avaialble at the higher bitrate? The lower bitrate at 160kbps isn't too shabby either though. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeBoxServer 7.5.0, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave. Current library stats: 34,767 songs, 2,776 albums, 505 artists. http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88799 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Records FLAC 24bit 44.1kHz to DVD Audio???
alicebill, the OP doesn't want to RIP, he wants to BURN DVD-Audio. I have Minnetonka's DiskWelder, as mentioned by DCtoDaylight. It works OK but dosen't give you a lot of authoring options. I would like it to be able to do multiple groups, but you have to pay more than the $99 version to get that. Not necessary for me. I have Dolby and DTS encoding software that's used for TV Post-Production in my studios and, since DTS can encode 96k, will usually do that and create a DTS encoded WAV file. I then FLAC it to shrink it down a bit. My Transported and 5.1 AV system decode it without error. MUCH easier than pulling out DVD-A discs. -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego -A.E.S., S.M.P.T.E., S.P.A.R.S.- e...@seaberg.com Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38947 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Spotify versus Rhapsody Audio Quality
Spotify Premium streams using Vorbis at 320kbps. Less helpful information perhaps: I think it sounds good. I haven't tried this, but I suspect I would struggle in a blind comparison with CD. If I loved some music I would still buy it on CD and rip it, especially if the best master isn't available on Spotify. But Spotify is more than acceptable when visitors want to play their favourite stuff! It's great. Darren -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88799 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Spotify versus Rhapsody Audio Quality
Can anyone compare? I use Rhapsody now and the quality is actually pretty good. How is the Spotify premium service in comparison to Rhapsody regarding sound quality? Thanks I stream from my Touch to a BADA>Modwirght KWA150>Sony M9ED. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88799 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter SE to Integrated Amp
Follow up: Enjoyed the Transporter for months using the RCA jacks and Pioneer SC-27 AV receiver. Then yesterday I brought back the PS Audio power amp into the mix to power the front speakers. The Transportet connected straight to it with XLR cables is magical! I suppose the simplest cleanest stereo pathway is always the best choice for music. -- guptaas guptaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21096 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87872 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why is there differences between the players?
If you are talking about subjective differences, then we can fill this thread with pages and you will not be convinced. Only you can conclude there are no differences. Try moving your speakers 2 inch. Closer you'll hear measurable difference. It does take the fun out of this hobby, but you'll save a lot of money. -- MediaCenter Source Device: Transporter Amplifiers: NAD C272 x 2 Bridge Mono Speakers: Magnepan MMG Pre-amplifier: NAD C162 Room Correction: Inguz DRC MediaCenter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32623 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88766 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] speaker advancements over 15 years?
If you like good r&d behind a design, check out Revel. Their concertas and performas level bookshelfs are great. -- MediaCenter Source Device: Transporter Amplifiers: NAD C272 x 2 Bridge Mono Speakers: Magnepan MMG Pre-amplifier: NAD C162 Room Correction: Inguz DRC MediaCenter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32623 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88582 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
Something Off Topic. I see that some reviewers and well regarded Hi-Fi authors from the past these days still hear things they write about and describe fine differences. These people must be in the end of their 50s now or even older. I have the feeling they fool themself often enough cause their "best ear days" are long gone. Some may have very good measuring equipment and measure things that no human may ever hear but when measured once they really believe to hear it. Especialy for these people it is time for real abx testing for an eye opener. -- Wombat Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
JohnSwenson;640735 Wrote: > My take on the power cord issue is that power cords CAN make a > difference in sound, some times fairly significant changes, but it > doesn't take thousands of dollars to do it well. People selling $1000 > cords may very well have a cord which sounds better than many other > cords, but thats probably NOT caused by whatever cost the $1000 but by > some coincidental factor. > > The issue here is that what makes a cord sound good is not well > understood, there are many theories out there as to what is happening. > What usually happens is that someone came up with a hypothesis along > the lines of "super high purity metal might be a factor", so they build > a cord with very high purity metal, and low and behold it DOES sound > better. Well if that sounded better then ultra super high purity metal > should sound even better, right? But in reality the improvement in the > original had nothing to do with the metal but was caused by the > particular insullation used which was required to maintain the metal > purity during manufacfture. If that same insullation was used with > lesser purity metal you would get similar sound improvements for a lot > less money, but nobody makes such a combination because the slightly > more expensive insullation is only used with the high purity metal, > thus nobody actually tries that insullation with cheaper metal. > > This sort of thing is rampant in the industry. Someone comes up with > something that does improve sound, then goes crazy and spends a huge > amount of money getting that one paramter to its absolute pinicale of > perfection, not realizing that the original improvement was caused by > something else! > > Do I buy $1000 cords? No way, I build my own cords. The most expensive > one I have made is about $35. My power cords do sound different from > each other, I'm exploring different geometries, insullations, shielding > etc using relatively inexpensive materials. And its not just listening, > I can actually measure differences caused by the different cords. One > interesting finding from this is that different gear sounds better > with different cords, that REALLY complicates things! > > There is still a lot more work to come up with decent correlations as > to what cord type sounds best with what equipment. Even if I did have > good correlations it wouldn't do any good unless you make your own, > since most manufacturers won't aqctually tell you how their cords are > made and exactly what materials are used. > > The best advice I can give right now given the state of the market > place is to buy several different inexpensive cords from different > manufacturers and try them out on different equipment in your system. > If it doesn't make any difference you are not out a lot of money. On > the other hand you just might find a combination that DOES improve the > sound of your system. > > John S. John unless I have senile dementia (possible) I remember you posting some time ago on this forum that mains cables sounded different because of transformer resonance but that once you damped the transformer (by a relatively easy method) different mains cables thereafter made no difference. Have you changed or view, or is that still the case? -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
As for USB cables sounding different... galvanic isolation is essential. It's not about the cable at all... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
@JS - as I hope you know I have a lot of respect for your views, John. However, I have conducted a lot of ADM tests on mains cables of varying types - including Nordost - and found NO measurable or audible difference when used on line level devices. I have not tested power amp mains cables in this way. It is possible they may have an effect on power amps. If the 1 metre or so of cable is having any effect it will be as an extra LCR across the reactance of the transformer primary (if there IS a transformer...). This additional LCR MAY filter some noise/harmonics. Personally I use screened mains cables exclusively these days. They are not expensive and if nothing else provide some extra protection against rfi. phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
JohnSwenson;640735 Wrote: > My take on the power cord issue is that power cords CAN make a > difference in sound, some times fairly significant changes, but it > doesn't take thousands of dollars to do it well. People selling $1000 > cords may very well have a cord which sounds better than many other > cords, but thats probably NOT caused by whatever cost the $1000 but by > some coincidental factor. > > The issue here is that what makes a cord sound good is not well > understood, there are many theories out there as to what is happening. > What usually happens is that someone came up with a hypothesis along > the lines of "super high purity metal might be a factor", so they build > a cord with very high purity metal, and low and behold it DOES sound > better. Well if that sounded better then ultra super high purity metal > should sound even better, right? But in reality the improvement in the > original had nothing to do with the metal but was caused by the > particular insullation used which was required to maintain the metal > purity during manufacfture. If that same insullation was used with > lesser purity metal you would get similar sound improvements for a lot > less money, but nobody makes such a combination because the slightly > more expensive insullation is only used with the high purity metal, > thus nobody actually tries that insullation with cheaper metal. > > This sort of thing is rampant in the industry. Someone comes up with > something that does improve sound, then goes crazy and spends a huge > amount of money getting that one paramter to its absolute pinicale of > perfection, not realizing that the original improvement was caused by > something else! > > Do I buy $1000 cords? No way, I build my own cords. The most expensive > one I have made is about $35. My power cords do sound different from > each other, I'm exploring different geometries, insullations, shielding > etc using relatively inexpensive materials. And its not just listening, > I can actually measure differences caused by the different cords. One > interesting finding from this is that different gear sounds better > with different cords, that REALLY complicates things! > > There is still a lot more work to come up with decent correlations as > to what cord type sounds best with what equipment. Even if I did have > good correlations it wouldn't do any good unless you make your own, > since most manufacturers won't aqctually tell you how their cords are > made and exactly what materials are used. > > The best advice I can give right now given the state of the market > place is to buy several different inexpensive cords from different > manufacturers and try them out on different equipment in your system. > If it doesn't make any difference you are not out a lot of money. On > the other hand you just might find a combination that DOES improve the > sound of your system. > > John S. Nonsense! A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. What cables do you have behind your wall outlet? And what is after that? (Another place to pollute your power source. :P All sorts of devices pollute power line.) There is no power cord that will deliver clean power from dirty source. You can't fool physics. -- Bytec Bytec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17676 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
