Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread soundcheck

The WLAN link should be working now. No idea what happened there.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread soundcheck

sckramer;667464 Wrote: 
> Klaus,
> 
> I looked through the tt3 script a little... I saw the prio() function
> to set priorities, and you have a undoc'd cmd line switch tt -z that
> calls prio()
> 
> -- but where in the script are you executing prio()? it's was not
> obvious to me --
> 
> Thanks!

I'll check that one. ;)


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ordered a new DAC

2011-11-04 Thread Lewis Moon

I got a new(ish) SB3 to replace my old one (buh bye old friend) so...I
needed a new DAC.   Last one was a Beresford TC-7520.  Went out on a
limb and ordered the spanking new Schiit Bifrost
http://schiit.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=0&products_id=7
Will keep you up to date.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread guidof

guidof;667529 Wrote: 
> +1 
> 
> Confirm the link to TT3.0-WLAN is broken.
> 
> Klaus, could you please give us WiFi guys a chance? ;-)
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Guido F.

EDIT: Yes, of course I did get around to it by temporarily hooking up
via Ethernet and using the individual commands to enable/disable etc.
But it would be nice to have the WLAN version for future reference.
Thanks.

Now the fun part! TRYING IT OUT.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread Cut-Throat

Can someone explain to me what killing daemons does ? --- and how this
might affect the sound? --- Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread guidof

henrylar;667472 Wrote: 
> Hi Klaus
> It seems that the link to the wlan version is broken..

+1 

Confirm the link to TT3.0-WLAN is broken.

Klaus, could you please give us WiFi guys a chance? ;-)

Thanks.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread lake_eleven

lovejoy;667285 Wrote: 
> So I did another factory reset and re-installed TT3.0 and weirdly,
> before I even got the chance to change the buffer setting I was
> convinced that it sounded better than it did the first time
> around..
I redid the whole step again, it definitely sounds better than TT2.0.
Excellent improvement with much lesser digital harsh. Tried spdif
setting of 51, sounds thin. So went back to 40.

Changed buffer to 2 and 5. Sounds harsh in my system instead of
being smooth. SO set it back to 4000.

TT3.0 is definitely improved SBT over TT2.0. Thanks Klaus.

If there is way to make the sound a little more smooth (less digital
more analog like) it would be great!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rega DAC - Has anyone auditioned one yet?

2011-11-04 Thread MCG555

Ok, testing it and YES: the sound stage is defenitely wider and deeper.
Also the bass is deep and is better controlled then without the DAC.
Transparency and Details have increased tremedously, however, the
downturn is, that it comes with more treble emphasis.
Now I understand the words of the moon info flyer: extended hights...

I want the broad soundstage and the details; but without an emphasis on
hights. Any recommandation?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread henrylar

Hi Klaus
It seems that the link to the wlan version is broken..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread socistep

Hi All

I have had this toolbox on my 'to-do' list for a while however just
wanted to check a couple of things, my main 'hifi' listening is through
a headphone amp/headphones which is analogue only also I need to run
wifi as no ethernet available in that room, does this limit the benefit
I will get from the toolbox?

However one plus point is that I have 2 touch's and the headphone amp
has 2 inputs so I could update one Touch with the mods and then have a
direct comparison with a sync'd track, that would be interesting to
try!

Cheers
Ian


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread sckramer

Klaus,

I looked through the tt3 script a little... I saw the prio() function
to set priorities, and you have a undoc'd cmd line switch tt -z that
calls prio()

-- but where in the script are you executing prio()? it's was not
obvious to me --

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread HumanMedia

Get your point about switching vollock lock to on. For me it's become
mandatory part of tt3
Before I tried it I was using spdif priority of 80 (up from 51) and it
was definitely smoother on the top end, BUT now with vollock on it
makes little difference.

As you say it's very handy being able to change everything remotely via
iPad whilst sitting in my sweet spot listening to the effect.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread HumanMedia

Get your point about switching vollock lock to on. For me it's become
mandatory part of tt3
Before I tried it I was using spdif priority of 80 (up from 51) and it
was definitely smoother on the top end, BUT now with vollock on it
makes little difference.

As you say it's very handy being able to change everything remotely via
iPad whilst sitting in my sweet spot listening to the effect.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread soundcheck

First impression of SPDIF @ prio 51 doesn't convince us over here.

For now I leave TT3.0 as it is. No reason to get nervous about
priorities.

Of course I'll follow up further constructive ideas.


Higher buffers won't work out either. The low-end seems to lose
precision. 

4000us will be the next TT3.0 build default value.



I think many of you can gain a lot more by looking a bit closer on the
HW and network side.


Enjoy.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread soundcheck

It's too dangerous to have it on by default. 

Some people might use the SW volume control only with direct amp
access.

In this case you'd blow your speakers and potentially ears.

It just takes 30s to turn it on. 

If you have a vollock ssh macro defined it's a no-brainer.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread HumanMedia

soundcheck;667394 Wrote: 
> +1 ;)

In fact you should make that one 'on' by default, it sounds as though
every thing else is voiced to having it on. Seems to flesh out the
midrange.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread soundcheck

humanmedia;667380 Wrote: 
> switching on the new vollock (not on by default) definitely makes it
> sound more relaxed and neutral. Another one to try.

+1 ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread HumanMedia

Switching on the new vollock (not on by default) definitely makes it
sound more relaxed and neutral. Another one to try.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread soundcheck

firedog;667353 Wrote: 
> Klaus-
> 
> I'm using the full update except: screen is on. Digital out only. 
> 
> I actually use the SBT screen as touch screen controller. Since I
> installed 3.0, I've noticed the screen is a little jumpy to the touch -
> over responds to slight touches sometimes. 
> 
> I saw one other user over at the Audiocircle forum who mentioned the
> same thing. Do you have any idea what this might be or what parameter
> might need to be adjusted to counteract for this?

No. I'm not using the screen and don't recommend to use it. ;)

Perhaps this has something to do with the priority settings. 

The timing for all other processes will certainly get slightly out of
balance.

Please define "sometimes"?

If you restore with tt -r does everything gets back to normal ?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread soundcheck

Thx for your feedback so far. Just to say it again.
It's good to get that feedback, which obviously covers the full 
"dynamic range". ;) 

It's interesting to see that some people feel to get used to it first.

@magiccarpetride
you're a talented pretty enjoyable writer.  Thx a lot. ;)


For those who do have issues with slightly aggressive sound.
Make sure that you got your power supplies, network and server setup 
under control. You might have realized that you find all that in a
different blog article now. You shouldn't miss that one.

I recall a post quite some time back of somebody having similar issues.
He than followed my networking advise by introducing a hub, cable and PS
and got rid of aggressive highs and best sound ever.  

Next steps:

1.
I'll check out the spdif priority thing today.

If it turns out to work for me too, you'll find it tomorrow at 1500
zulu  in the final 3.0 drop. 

2. 
I don't have any problems to refer to the TT2.0 link. But don't expect
me to get the old description back.  

3. John.

I was looking in the udev thing a long time ago. I could have done it
too.
For now I did it my way. I do not see much of a difference. 
I'll address the subject as soon as I start working on the USB
interface subject. Everything is almost done - you'll find fragments of
it inside TT3.0. I left them in.

Much more interesting would be to get the USB thing under control.
Logitech doesn't seem to be willing to support us at least a little on
that one. 


4. I might think of introducing more tunables in the next major
release.
I won't change anything for now. 
Experienced users know where to turn the knobs anyhow.
The whole thing gets obviously more an more complex, 
it's just impossible test and retest all hundred million parameter
combinations. I appreciate your feedback.

If you guys do some more testing tonight, please let us (me) know how
how things are going.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread firedog

Klaus-

I'm using the full update except: screen is on. Digital out only. 

I actually use the SBT screen as touch screen controller. Since I
installed 3.0, I've noticed the screen is a little jumpy to the touch -
over responds to slight touches sometimes. 

I saw one other user over at the Audiocircle forum who mentioned the
same thing. Do you have any idea what this might be or what parameter
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread lovejoy

sckramer;667289 Wrote: 
> Lovejoy, do you mean you maxed out the buffer at 5, or 3400?

Hi sckramer. I mean maxed out at 5, sorry for any ambiguity.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread praganj

Hi Klaus,

Great thanks for TT 3.0. I upgraded yesterday from 2.0 and priority
tweaks.

It was to late yesterday to make some extended tests, but i think that
TT 3.0 sounds better than 2.0.

I have few questions and wishes :)

Would it be possible to add a tool for spdif priority ?

Something like "tt -sp 51" ?

Are they any other (priority ?) values we can try to play with ? Each
of us has a different system and a different taste.  

The TT 2.0 is no more available on your pages, (luckily i have saved it
before updates ;)).

Would it be possible to put it back, so the people could make easy
comparison between 2.0 and 3.0 ?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2011-11-04 Thread firedog

Sorry for being dense, can someone explain to me exactly what line(s) in
the code in which file can/need to be changed here?

And if I used V 3.0 to enable "digital out only" is there any reason to
alter this priority at all?


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