Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
xtrips;669605 Wrote: > Hello, > > Could you confirm that setting the file types as you defined it, PCM > instead of native, prevents the possibility of playing 24/96 files? > At least for me this is what happens. > When set to PCM 24/96 files play slowed down and distorted. > They play ok when set to native. > If you confirm the problem then do you have a workaround (apart from > setting an esoteric file type to native and converting all my 24/96 > FLAC files to that other file type). > > Thanks Anyone who care to answer here? Thanks -- xtrips xtrips's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
IF one breaks a leg or something reading this from post 1 can be fun. "my ears tells me" is exactly the kind of flawed thinking that get you green pens for your cd and sprays to treat your exotic cables :) your so called " ears " tells you a lot of things ( expectational bias ). Another dear forum members proves that piont in post 481 in this tread, if that experience is not all " in his head " .. Some even resort to elaborate fantasies about why controlled test is " flawed " ( flat earth arguments ), but not sigthed tests. Or the nice circular arguments that other audiophools can hear it then it must be ( yea ask the other cult members ). A positive note, this is free no one is fleeced of any money . It may be damaging for the product image, "with such friends you need no enemies" Some casual readers migth be lead to believe that you actually *must* do these things to enjouy the product. This is evident in many other posts people seeking a ll kinds of advice to do things that are not really necessary and a bit above thier capabilities . any many of the nice aspects of the products dissapears if you strip away the UI and mess up the file types conversion. Relax and enjoy the music, no obssess over bizarre details. Wasting time that could be used to enjoy music. It is also a cultural flaw , it is considered ok to be totally ignorant about science or even to scorn science. It's not ok to be ignorant about culture and history people would just stare at you if confessed that you don't know that London is the capital of great britain or who is " martin luther king". But being totally ignorant about science or technollogy is, some even brag about it ! No wonder that people buy all kinds of pseudscience technobabble if it strokes them in the rigth way. i have yet again injected myself in this tread and wasted time . But I think pseudoscience and superstition and alternative medicine is a real problem. For perspective http://osxdaily.com/2011/10/20/steve-jobs-refused-early-cancer-treatment-regretted-alternative-therapy/ this higligths another aspect of all this, " Magical Thinking" . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
RadioClash;669686 Wrote: > Phil's guard dogs are out in full force. :) guard dogs versus the lap dogs -- Stilly77 Stilly77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43680 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Phil's guard dogs are out in full force. :) -- RadioClash RadioClash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
pandasharka;669667 Wrote: > We're talking about a $300 piece of kit here so I guess we can all > embarrass ourselves a little. > > Now if we were Linn DS Klimax owners... > > Lighten up peeps - Touch + TT3.0 is way past entry Linn DS and then > some.. Ligthen up? You're the one that came in guns a blazin..like a poodle giving Klaus's leg a good workin' over. If you're going to do a swan dive off the diving board, make sure to check if there's water in the pool. -- Stilly77 Stilly77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43680 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
We're talking about a $300 piece of kit here so I guess we can all embarrass ourselves a little. Now if we were Linn DS Klimax owners... Lighten up peeps - Touch + TT3.0 is way past entry Linn DS and then some.. -- pandasharka pandasharka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Hmm, I see you weren't kidding when you said you weren't worried about embarrassing yourself. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > LMS 7.7.0 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
@Pandasharka 1) don't assume what you don't know 2) this is a forum - you don't get to make the rules. 3) resorting to ad hominem attacks means that deep down even you don't believe the truth of your position. I suggest that instead of attacking me for things I haven't done, you go listen to some music. As Clint Eastwood famously said in one of his Dirty Harry movies: Opinions are like arseholes - everyones got one. (You've clearly got three points to make) I frankly dont have the time or energy to shoot the breeze, or discuss the semantics. My ears tell me what I enjoy listening to & Klaus' latest release should be both applauded and appreciated. What I am interested in is discussing with fellow Touch customers my experience of TT3.0 when appropriate. -- pandasharka pandasharka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
This thread relates to a widely anticipated upgrade for TT2.0 folks - namely TT3.0. It would be neat if it remained that way. Even better if it included feedback from those who have tried it. Perhaps those who would prefer not to follow would be better off elsewhere. If you have not tried TT3.0, sadly, you do not know what you are missing. -- pandasharka pandasharka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
garym;669636 Wrote: > Oh my. You will embarrass yourself a bit less if you read a few more > posts at the forum to understand the history a bit better. And, no, > this thread is not ONLY for positive comments. It is for discussion. > And finally, I don't recall seeing a single negative comment by Phil > regarding these mods. A few measurements perhaps. You're right, I haven't made any comment about the latest mods... Funny how some people seem to want to assume that I have... I'm still listening to them. Measurement takes time to do properly and I will not be rushed - Klaus has spent a lot of time developing them and I don't want to do some half-baked tests and then have to retract any comments later, that would be disingenuous. @Pandasharka 1) don't assume what you don't know 2) this is a forum - you don't get to make the rules. 3) resorting to ad hominem attacks means that deep down even you don't believe the truth of your position. I suggest that instead of attacking me for things I haven't done, you go listen to some music. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
pandasharka;669632 Wrote: > Apologies for the post - I'm obviously a year or two late on the scene - > I only got my Touch (partnered with Linn Classik for amplification and > JM Labs 715 speakers) back in April 2011. > > Anyone who cant hear a DEFINITE difference between TT2.0 & vanilla SB > Touch needs to check into the doc for ear syringeing. > > Anyone who cant hear a MARKED difference between TT2.0 & TT3.0 needs to > either a) ditch Touch set up or b) enrol for major surgery. > > I don't know the politics/ history here - but if my name was Phil and I > had posted 7k+ posts (about what exactly?) and hadnt even experimented > with TT2.0 or 3.0, > ' > then I would question the relevence of any posting on this thread. > > This thread is one that is POSITIVE towards Touch / Klaus' mods. > > Anything else (regardless of science) belongs elsewhere. Oh my. You will embarrass yourself a bit less if you read a few more posts at the forum to understand the history a bit better. And, no, this thread is not ONLY for positive comments. It is for discussion. And finally, I don't recall seeing a single negative comment by Phil regarding these mods. A few measurements perhaps. -- garym Location 1: Vortexbox Appliance 6TB (1.10) > SbS 7.6.2 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) Location 2: Win7(64) laptop > LMS 7.7.0 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
pandasharka;669632 Wrote: > > > This thread is one that is POSITIVE towards Touch / Klaus' mods. > > LOL, someone forgot to circulate that memo. I think it's just a thread regarding TT 3.0, good and bad experiences all expressed. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Phil Leigh;669618 Wrote: > Actually that's quite funny... > So far I've been able to measure all sorts of things I can't hear, but > I've yet to hear anything that doesn't show up in an ADM test... If I > ever do, this forum will be the first to know! Apologies for the post - I'm obviously a year or two late on the scene - I only got my Touch (partnered with Linn Classik for amplification and JM Labs 715 speakers) back in April 2011. Anyone who cant hear a DEFINITE difference between TT2.0 & vanilla SB Touch needs to check into the doc for ear syringeing. Anyone who cant hear a MARKED difference between TT2.0 & TT3.0 needs to either a) ditch Touch set up or b) enrol for major surgery. I don't know the politics/ history here - but if my name was Phil and I had posted 7k+ posts (about what exactly?) and hadnt even experimented with TT2.0 or 3.0, then I would question the relevence of any posting on this thread. This thread is one that is POSITIVE towards Touch / Klaus' mods. Anything else (regardless of science) belongs elsewhere. -- pandasharka pandasharka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] help me find linear power supply for Touch?
there is a wide selection avaible, just avoid wellborne labs their bussiness practices are not always ok. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91383 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
magiccarpetride;669606 Wrote: > I understand. You have a reputation to protect. One of the sure-fire > ways to garner respect and reputation in audio circles is to play the > role of a hardened skeptic. You've cornered yourself into that role > quite well, and are now enjoying the fruits of your labour. The last > thing you'd wanna do now is admit that you can actually hear > differences where your measuring dexterity is incapable of detecting > any. Actually that's quite funny... So far I've been able to measure all sorts of things I can't hear, but I've yet to hear anything that doesn't show up in an ADM test... If I ever do, this forum will be the first to know! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
magiccarpetride;669606 Wrote: > I understand. You have a reputation to protect. One of the sure-fire > ways to garner respect and reputation in audio circles is to play the > role of a hardened skeptic. You've cornered yourself into that role > quite well, and are now enjoying the fruits of your labour. The last > thing you'd wanna do now is admit that you can actually hear > differences where your measuring dexterity is incapable of detecting > any. Obviously irony doesn't travel well... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters,VdH Toslink,Kimber 8TC Speaker & Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] help me find linear power supply for Touch?
mlsstl;669526 Wrote: > *Just to play the contrarian for a moment, is there a particular reason > you want a linear power supply? * I've got the stock PS and hear no > extraneous noise when the volume is up with no music playing (even with > my ear to a speaker driver), nor can I spot anything that remotely might > be due to RF modulation of the music while it plays. > > I understand that newer digital power supplies are much quieter than > the original models from some years ago. Could this be another example > of a problem long since fixed being permanently stuck in the lore of > the hobby? I thought it might improve the sound. Appreciate the input, though. Still waivering on pulling the trigger on something. -- Howard Turkster *Soft mods*: SC TT 2.0 + Dynaudio's mods *Components*: Squeezebox Touch (analogue outs) - Rega Mira 3 - Boston Acoustics VR2s - Rel T2 sub, D-Link hub between touch & server *Cables*: VH Audio Spectrum (Cu) RCAs, Chord Rumour speaker wire, custom neutrik speakon cable (sub) *Power*: Touch stock power supply with SBooster filter VH Audio Flavor 4 power cable x2 (amp and sub) stock DLink power supply Porter A/C Ports *Server*: Squeezebox server on Windows 7, Core2duo Howard Turkster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39563 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91383 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Phil Leigh;669053 Wrote: > Oh I don't think anyone wants to hear what I think (or measure) about > all of this... I understand. You have a reputation to protect. One of the sure-fire ways to garner respect and reputation in audio circles is to play the role of a hardened skeptic. You've cornered yourself into that role quite well, and are now enjoying the fruits of your labour. The last thing you'd wanna do now is admit that you can actually hear differences where your measuring dexterity is incapable of detecting any. -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Hello, Could you confirm that setting the file types as you defined it, PCM instead of native, prevents the possibility of playing 24/96 files? At least for me this is what happens. When set to PCM 24/96 files play slowed down and distorted. They play ok when set to native. If you confirm the problem then do you have a workaround (apart from setting an esoteric file type to native and converting all my 24/96 FLAC files to that other file type). Thanks -- xtrips xtrips's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
soundcheck;669461 Wrote: > Those of you who understand the logic behind my approach, > easily understand that different HDDs ( internally or externally > powered), USB cables, RAMs, MOBs, PSs, etc, etc will also make a > difference > on a PC based transport. > > Our embedded Touch is a pretty much stripped down PC. Which is a pretty > good starting point. > > But again. If the DACs would be able to cope better with common-mode > noise, timeing variations and drifts asf. we wouldn't have that IMO > annyoing and never ending discussion. > > I'd be really annoyed if I'd just bought a DAC at 2000+ and it would > still respond to improvements on the transport side. > There are many manfacturers out there claiming immunity to transport > induced distortions. > You should ask yourself then why they all still run Amarra or similar > on presentations. I guess on RMAF there was not any presentation not > running a so called "audiophile" playback software. > (And guess what. All those DACs measure extremely well. ;) ) > > > Cheers Soundcheck thanks for the education and patience with us :-) I can pretty much say that a 2000+ DAC would still respond to changes in transport - as long as it is connected via SPDIF. I would never go back to transports. Transports make a difference but I dont think they are worth the money the audiophile companies ask for them. With your mods, I can guess that the Touch sounds like a $1000 transport or so or maybe even higher priced (I am using a linear power supply with it). I wish Logitech open sources the firmware. That is the best way to tweak the platform. -- SoftwireEngineer Main Wellborne Labs Power Supply -> SBT -> Zu Ash Coax -> TACT Digital Integrated Amp-> Zu Wax Speaker Cables -> Silverline Sonatina. Power Conditioning by Running Springs Audio Haley Mobile FLAC Files->TECLAST T51 Mp3 Player -> Silver Cables -> Ultimate Ears Triple Fi 10 SoftwireEngineer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] help me find linear power supply for Touch?
mlsstl;669526 Wrote: > Just to play the contrarian for a moment, is there a particular reason > you want a linear power supply? I've got the stock PS and hear no > extraneous noise when the volume is up with no music playing (even with > my ear to a speaker driver), nor can I spot anything that remotely might > be due to RF modulation of the music while it plays. > > I understand that newer digital power supplies are much quieter than > the original models from some years ago. Could this be another example > of a problem long since fixed being permanently stuck in the lore of > the hobby? A likely explanation , beside the one that the ps disturb other equipment . So called linear supplies also disturbs the feeding net by a great deal their input current is very distorted . If had the brains to design a supply I would design a supply that draw sinusoidal current from the net with a power-factor close to 1 this can be done with switch-mode and LCL filters (I work with such devices but they are in the MW range ) Lore ? I think everything never than the direct heated triode is considered bad ;) . It is quite possible to design both bad and good supplies with any method, as folklore is part of audiophiledom it is hard to sell in a good switch-mode supply, instead you put together a run of the mill linear supply in nice looking aluminum case and you earn money :) -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91383 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
I finally found the time to upgrade to tt3.0. Installation was a breeze, I am running the full package. I shall give it a good listen tonight, a first short listen reveals it still sound good but my DAC needs at least 30 minutes to get at its full potential sound wise. Thanks Klaus! -- lintweaker lintweaker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47485 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] help me find linear power supply for Touch?
Just to play the contrarian for a moment, is there a particular reason you want a linear power supply? I've got the stock PS and hear no extraneous noise when the volume is up with no music playing (even with my ear to a speaker driver), nor can I spot anything that remotely might be due to RF modulation of the music while it plays. I understand that newer digital power supplies are much quieter than the original models from some years ago. Could this be another example of a problem long since fixed being permanently stuck in the lore of the hobby? -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91383 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Those of you who understand the logic behind my approach, easily understand that different HDDs ( internally or externally powered), an USB cable, RAM, MOB, PS, etc.,etc, will also make a difference on a PC based transport. Our embedded Touch is a pretty much stripped down PC. Which is a pretty good starting point. But again. If the DACs would be able to cope better with common-mode noise, timeing variations and drifts asf. we wouldn't have that IMO annyoing and never ending discussion. I'd be really annoyed if I'd just bought a DAC at 2000+ and it still responds to improvements on the transport side. There are many manfacturers out there claiming immunity to the transprot. You should ask yourself then why they all still run Amarra on presentations. I guess on RMAF there was not any presentation not running a so called "audiphile" playback software. Cheers -- soundcheck ::: ' Touch Toolbox 3.0 and more' (http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com) ::: by soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
If u measure at the output of the DAC and the outputs are identical the case is closed. This whole treads exist solely because the deliberate choice of *not* using scientific methods in a matter thats is possible to apply scientific methods on. Hence discussions on which OS sound best feeding a squeezebox ? This is alchemy. the idea the reasonably well engineered sources feeding reasonably well designed DAC's sound different is in itself very questionable, the base assumption that this is the case is very likely wrong . but still I gain insigth and knowledge about the innards of the squeezebox from this tread I don't use the toolbox I've manually turned of some unecessary things, the player is more snappy and reacts faster to user inputs if you offload some task you don't want. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
soundcheck;669450 Wrote: > 1. > Atkinson and many other PROs are using Amarra, Pure Music or similar > under OSX. Those tools follow a similar stategy then I do. Cics with > Cplay/CMP2. tries to push it from the XP side btw. and also addresses > the HW. > > On a platform like OSX or MSW you can't push it to the limits though. > An embedded rt-linux system without fancy features like UIs is the > close to perfect base. > > All those audiophile and highpriced players do cause an audible change > on 99.99 % of all DACs. If the DAC manfactureres would do a better job, > we wouldn't have this discussion. > > Cheers > > > P.S. > I've been in contact with John A. and Kal Rubinson from Stereophile > btw. Understood. And hifi critic has published reports that hard drives sound different. One could perhaps be forgiven for thinking there were two John atkinsons if one reads his measurement reviews on the one hand and the subjective stuff on the other. Some time ago he wrote a piece on what disc spinners measurd well enough for 16 bit or hi res playback. He said at the time it would be followed by one on transports and one on dacs. I don't think these follow ups have appeared. I wonder whether this I'd because his measurements would have shown that pretty much and transport would do into any number of cheap dacs. Equally I have never seen any measurements of smarts I appreciate the argument about the possibility that one measures the wrong things -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
1. Atkinson and many other PROs are using Amarra, Pure Music or similar under OSX. Those tools follow a similar stategy then I do. Cics with Cplay/CMP2. tries to push it from the XP side btw. and also addresses the HW. On a platform like OSX or MSW you can't push it to the limits though. An embedded rt-linux system without fancy features like UIs is the close to perfect base. All those audiophile and highpriced players do cause an audible change on 99.99 % of all DACs. If the DAC manfactureres would do a better job, we wouldn't have this discussion. Cheers P.S. I've been in contact with John A. and Kal Rubinson from Stereophile btw. -- soundcheck ::: ' Touch Toolbox 3.0 and more' (http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com) ::: by soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
