Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer & SBT.. Why should it work?
Soundcheck, in his thread, suggests using TCPOptimizer's 'optimal' settings. Even this does not affect SBT playback? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
RussellMrgn wrote: > ok, sorry in advance, I have not read through this posting, except for > the first few posts. Now comes the real deal of the posting Can > someone post a 'how to', to get this working with the current realease > of LMS? Start with this thread - http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?87506-Inguz-drc-eq-plugin-working. > > Kuja > What is the absolute minimum processing power required to run Inguz on a > PC? I am just testing an ASUS E45M1-I Deluxe board right now and it runs Inguz EQ fine for an SB3 and a Touch playing different tracks - i.e. 2 instances of Inquz DSP and SpiceFly Sugarcube. Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.2 - r33893, Win 7 64 Home Premium, 4GB RAM, OCZ Vertex 2 120Gb SSD drive C, 120,000 tracks across two 2TB Samsung eco green (5400 rpm) drives. Power supply is a PicoPSU. WattMeter shows the complete system drawing 37 watts while Squeezebox Server is running with SugarCube and Inguz enabled and running a complete system scan using Windows Security Essentials. Windows Task Manager shows CPU usage is at about 70%, with MsMpEng.exe taking 40% ~ 50% CPU Before I started the complete scan, the Task Manager showed about 20% ~ 30% CPU and WattMeter showed about 25 to 30 watts for Squeezebox Server only. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer & SBT.. Why should it work?
And he referred you to jplay forums for more info. That's like asking Bernie Madoff for investment advice. Search hydrogenaudio.org on jplay. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer & SBT.. Why should it work?
chill wrote: > what have I missed in my summary? For one, you're talking to SBGK, a poster who has demonstrated time and again a complete misunderstanding of how squeezeboxes work. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer & SBT.. Why should it work?
SBGK wrote: > lol, this really is the tar pit of audiophile forums. > > OP, I would try somewhere else for an answer. The author of fidelizer > posts in a few eg jplay forums, you can ask him directly there. SBGK The fact is that there aren't many places that an explanation of Fidelizer's effects can be hiding. You're obviously reluctant to accept expectation bias, so let's exclude that for a moment. So as I see it the possibilites are: i) It directly affects the bits that get buffered by the Touch ii) It directly affects the workload of the Touch iii) It indirectly affects all the other components in your system If i) is true, it can only be by putting the WRONG bits in the buffer - the DTS example proves that the touch is already bit perfect. If ii) is true, pulling the ethernet cable out of the Touch will demonstrate the effect. Once the Touch is no longer communicating with the server, the workload of the Touch that's related to server comms must reduce to zero, and you should be able to hear the benefit. You've now stated a couple of times that you hear no difference when you pull the cable, so the workload can't be the source of the improvement. Fidelizer may well have a positive benefit for people playing music from their PC's sound card. But we know that the Touch is NOT analogous to a PC sound card. I'm sure we'd all welcome some input from Fidelizer's author to explain it's benefits in the Squeezebox scenario. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that he/she disavows any claim to improving things in the Squeezebox world. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer & SBT.. Why should it work?
darrell wrote: > As far as asking the developer of Fidelizer for the answer to this, it > would be like relying on Bob Diamond to tell you whether Barclays Bank > was an upright and moral organisation! Translation for our members in the USA: "...it would be like relying on Jaime Dimon to tell you whether JP Morgan Chase was an upright and moral organization!" Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer & SBT.. Why should it work?
SBGK wrote: > > > chill wrote: > > John > > > > I can't tell if you're just being mischievous, but if not, are you > > seriously suggesting that the mere presence of a powered-up computer in > > the same house as the hifi will have an audible effect? That's a bit of > > a blow for the whole computer-based audio industry. But moreover, and > > returning to the OPs point I suppose, are you suggesting that the > > changes in EMI and mains noise between a computer that's running > > Fidelizer and one that's not will be audible? > > > > I realise that your post is describing a theoretical possibility only > > (hence the capitalised 'COULD'), but what is the likelihood of these > > effects being audible in the real world? How bad would your components > > have to be for such minuscule things to have an impact? IMO, the > > plug-pull test is already convincing enough.> > > > lol, this really is the tar pit of audiophile forums. > > OP, I would try somewhere else for an answer. The author of fidelizer > posts in a few eg jplay forums, you can ask him directly there. In what way is chill's reply worthy of this comment? It seems very polite and balanced to me. Is it because the only posts you can countenance are ones which confirm your own prejudices? In any case, the possibility of expectation bias, already mentioned, surely must be considered at least as likely as possible changes in the electrical environment, to all but the most blinkered subjectivist. The possibility that there is a difference between bits streamed to the SB buffer by a computer running Fidelizer and one not running Fidelizer, *after* the ethernet cable is pulled is mind blowing - do you understand what you are suggesting? Please consider explanations based on psychology, which are orders of magnitude more likely than explanations based on physics. As far as asking the developer of Fidelizer for the answer to this, it would be like relying on Bob Diamond to tell you whether Barclays Bank was an upright and moral organisation! darrell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13460 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
jh901 wrote: > Quick question: > > My outboard DAC accepts 24/192 via AES or Coax digital inputs. The > Transporter downconverts (right word?) 24/192 to 24/96 as I understand > it in order to play 24/192, but will it pass native 24/192 to an > outboard DAC via digital outs? > > Much appreciated! My understanding is that it will not. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter as server (digital outs)- a few basic questions
BUMP Anyone?? jh901's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18175 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95476 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Master List of HD and Lossless Download Sites..
Mycenius wrote: > Well I'm still waiting for the Warners' Customer Service Team to respond > on what happened to my Nonesuch files?! :( Well I might have to apologise to Warners over that one, seems I apparantly mistyped my email address, and because it didn't have a second validation field at checkout time, and they rely solely on emailing the link (i.e. no account or download section on website) so it got lost in the ether... Although I don't undersand how Paypal checkout worked and download email didn't from the same incorrect address? But regardless good news is that's another one (Nonesuch) that's a tick for International Audiophiles! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk - Pleezz eccussse enny tyippos! :) Mycenius's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56466 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95132 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer & SBT.. Why should it work?
chill wrote: > John > > I can't tell if you're just being mischievous, but if not, are you > seriously suggesting that the mere presence of a powered-up computer in > the same house as the hifi will have an audible effect? That's a bit of > a blow for the whole computer-based audio industry. But moreover, and > returning to the OPs point I suppose, are you suggesting that the > changes in EMI and mains noise between a computer that's running > Fidelizer and one that's not will be audible? > > I realise that your post is describing a theoretical possibility only > (hence the capitalised 'COULD'), but what is the likelihood of these > effects being audible in the real world? How bad would your components > have to be for such minuscule things to have an impact? IMO, the > plug-pull test is already convincing enough. lol, this really is the tar pond of audiophile forums. OP, I would try somewhere else for an answer. The author of fidelizer posts in a few eg jplay forums, you can ask him directly there. SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer & SBT.. Why should it work?
JohnSwenson wrote: > But that test is not necessarily defintive, it only tells you if the > processing on the Touch is the issue. There are other possible paths > from server to ears such as EMI radiated from server, noise injected on > power mains etc. Something which is changing the whole operating > environment of the server COULD be changing something which gets > transfered through one of these indirect paths, even when audio data is > not actively being transmitted to the Touch. Now if you unplugged the > the Touch from the ethernet AND unplugged the power form the server at > the same time, THEN you would have a more convincing test. > > John S. John I can't tell if you're just being mischievous, but if not, are you seriously suggesting that the mere presence of a powered-up computer in the same house as the hifi will have an audible effect? That's a bit of a blow for the whole computer-based audio industry. But moreover, and returning to the OPs point I suppose, are you suggesting that the changes in EMI and mains noise between a computer that's running Fidelizer and one that's not will be audible? I realise that your post is describing a theoretical possibility only (hence the capitalised 'COULD'), but what is the likelihood of these effects being audible in the real world? How bad would your components have to be for such minuscule things to have an impact? IMO, the plug-pull test is already convincing enough. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
