Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Need Repair for Dead Transporter
Disappointing to read about Logitech's refusal to assist, and I do hope youre able to force them into resolving the issue Rob, because the TP's a nice piece of kit and a very pricy (overpriced by today's standards) one at that. But really guys, you carry on as if the TP is the last word in audio fidelity. Personally I don't think Logitech should ever contemplate a TP v2 - it's not their game, sphere of competence or the market they serve - all of that was in the Slimdevices domain. What Logitech do have that's important to me is the Squeezebox ecosystem, without which my enjoyment of my music would be severely diminished. I've purchased a few SB Touch devices and use them as players wherever I want to listen to music. In my listening room I've forgone the TP, replacing it with a Touch as transport, feeding an external DAC (which I've come to prefer over the TP). The point is, as good as the TP is/ was, there are better (and cheaper) DACs on the market today. Rob, if you don't come right, do yourself a favour and have a listen to the PS Audio Digital Link III and the Audiolab M-DAC as options. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95537 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Need Repair for Dead Transporter
Disappointing to read about Logitech's refusal to assist, and I do hope you're able to force them into resolving the issue Rob, because the TP's a nice piece of kit and a very pricy (overpriced by today's standards) one at that. But really guys, you carry on as if the TP is the last word in audio fidelity. Personally I don't think Logitech should ever contemplate a TP v2 - it's not their game, sphere of competence or the market they serve - all of that was in the Slimdevices domain. What Logitech do have that's important to me is the Squeezebox ecosystem, without which my enjoyment of my music would be severely diminished. I've purchased a few SB Touch devices and use them as players wherever I want to listen to music. In my listening room I've forgone the TP, replacing it with a Touch as transport, feeding an external DAC (which I've come to prefer over the TP). The point is, as good as the TP is/ was, there are better (and cheaper) DACs on the market today. audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95537 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Surge protector question
I think you are correct, the old suppressor was old and probably deterioration did occur. At this moment I am listening with the Monster surge protectors which also claims noise filtration. I believe there is a positive improvement in the sound and I'm planning on checking them out further. So far it's good! Thanks for the responses. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95953 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Surge protector question
Quick comment on your old surge protector and the noise. Many surge protectors use metal oxide varistors and this part can deteriorate with time or surges. That may have been the reason the noise disappeared when you replaced it. mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95953 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Surge protector question
Ok. Thank you very much for such educated explanations. We're lucky to have so many expert responses. I had purchased a surge protector that was made for a computer system... Maybe the electrical suppression (is that impedence) was too great for a sound system. So, I exchanged it for a very inexpensive SP and the pops and snaps are no longer present and the fidelity seems the same. There were some audio Monster SPs also which I passed up. They were advertised to "clean" up electrical noise but I was only interested in stopping the pops and snaps and I was fearful that the noise reduction promises might be at the expense of some high end sound. Should I give them a try? I'm very tempted to try one. What do I have going into the surge protector: Marantz preamp,Squeezebox Touch, DVR. Thanks again. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95953 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Surge protector question
Tell us more about what your audio gear is and what surge protector you're using. Surge protectors rarely provide much in the way of power conditioning unless you've gone pretty upscale on what you're calling a surge protector. But I agree completely with mlsstl that cleaner power will often result in a preliminary perception of loss of high-end detail when what it's really doing is cleaning noise from the high end. mdconnelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95953 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Surge protector question
Ikabob wrote: > I'm not sure if I have lost some fidelity or not... Especially the high > end. Just a quick comment -- your uncertain worry may be affecting the perceived sound quality far more than any actual physical change. Our subconscious dramatically affects our perception no matter whether the subject is audio or something else. You didn't say what equipment was powered by the surge protector, but as a practical matter, there's only 2 or 3 broad areas where it could affect the sound. The first is the surge protector is unable to deliver enough power to supply what's needed by your gear. The second issue would be if it is screwing with the AC waveform or otherwise adding noise to the system. The third is rather a variation of the second, in the sense that having multiple components on the same surge protector is affecting the ground or transmitting interference from one component to another. Keep in mind that sometimes less noise in a system can be perceived as duller sounding (i.e., reduced highs). In the old days of tone controls (when I sold stereos for a living), probably 99% of customers would always notch up the treble and bass to 1 or 2 o'clock and prefer that to a flat setting. Very few components have tone controls these days, so people often gravitate toward gear with a built-in brighter sound. I just threw the last item out there as a possible explanation as to why your new surge protector could actually be working better (i.e., greater fidelity, not less) than the old one even though your perception is a reduction in highs. mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95953 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
