Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-09-11 Thread pkfox

Interesting observations - keep em comin



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-09-11 Thread jh901

The top digital players are manufactured by dCS and their "ring DAC" is
pretty much the king.  For redbook only, the Naim CD-555 is world class.
Those and many, many other players (excluding the many outboard DACs)
have sound quality that will surpass the sound quality of the
Transporter by a huge margin.  Here's a shortlist:


dCS "Ring DAC" (Scarlatti, Paganini, Debussy, Puccini)
Naim DAC (CD-555)
CH Precision C1 DAC
APL DAC-M (Designer: Alex Peychev)
Light Harmonic Da Vinci
Playback Designs MPD-5
MSB Diamond DAC IV
EMM Labs DAC2
Burmester (069, 089, 113)
Wadia 9 series
Audio Research Reference DAC
Simaudio 750D  (built in transport but mainly a DAC)
Zanden 5000S


Note that the next level down includes players such as the Cary 306 SACD
Pro, which is now my reference player.  The leap in sound quality over
the Transporter was shocking.  My speakers are very high resolution, so
that's part of the equation, but nonetheless I would not have recognized
the sound of my system by ear with the Cary replacing the Transporter. 
And that's no hyperbole.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-09-11 Thread Wombat

Archimago wrote: 
> Do you mean music streamers?
> 
> If so, I assume the Linn DS series must be high on the list. These will
> play hi-res files up to 24/192. Have no idea how good the interface on
> this works...
> 
> IMO, I still prefer the Transporter for its flexibility, capabilities
> and very cool display :-). I'm also one who believes there is no reason
> to listen to 24/192 and I've done multiple DAC shootouts (either blind
> or instantaneous switch) and have not heard anything that bests the
> Transporter (including EMM, Weiss, Benchmark, Ayre units). In other
> words, I believe the technology is mature and there is essentially
> nothing to be gained other than esthetics, ergonomics, and features
> rather than sound quality.
> 
> YMMV.
Well said. I dislike the situation as it is but secretly i hope my old
fellow Slimdevices Transporter will last for a while and grow old in
grandeur here. I didnĀ“t listen these Weiss and other recent flagships
but i guess the benefits coming from a so called "better" DAC these days
are minor against other things you can change in your chain. 
Of course you can get some fancy stuff that does insane upsampling,
adding harmonics and this NOS things. Reading about the audiophile
reasoning about these units will give you the impression that all gear
since 2X upsampling was a pure waste, so for the last 20 years all DACs
sounded bad by design :) Not my cup...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-09-11 Thread Archimago

Do you mean music streamers?

If so, I assume the Linn DS series must be high on the list. These will
play hi-res files up to 24/192. Have no idea how good the interface on
this works...

IMO, I still prefer the Transporter for its flexibility, capabilities
and very cool display :-). I'm also one who believes there is no reason
to listen to 24/192 and I've done multiple DAC shootouts (either blind
or instantaneous switch) and have not heard anything that bests the
Transporter (including EMM, Weiss, Benchmark, Ayre units). In other
words, I believe the technology is mature and there is essentially
nothing to be gained other than esthetics, ergonomics, and features
rather than sound quality.

YMMV.



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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2012-09-11 Thread pkfox

Hi all, the title says it all , I've been away from the front line for a
while now and get the impression that the Transporter is no longer king
! Is this the case - if so who is the new one ?



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