Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interconnects and Power leads. Snake Oil?
arnyk wrote: > Truth be told just about everything you do will change the sound if you > do audiophile-type listening tests - IOW don't match levels, don't time > synch the music, don't quick switch and by all means don't keep people > from knowing which of the alternatives they are listening to at all > times. . You forgot to mention that it is important that the test organizer ask leading questions and also make it clear that if the listener doesn't give the "correct" response that it will assumed there is something intellectually wrong with them. Also make sure that the desired product is advantageously displayed in comparison to its inferior competitors. mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] free upgrade for linux LMS users
yawn. ;) drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106375 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Interconnects and Power leads. Snake Oil?
edwardthern wrote: > This stuff is NOT snake oil at all. > > When people have good sound systems they can hear all sorts of tweaks, > and truth be told just about everything you do can change the sound. > > However if your gear is not so good nothing changes the sound. > > Keep these good tweaks coming, but don't expect people with crappy gear > to buy into it Truth be told just about everything you do will change the sound if you do audiophile-type listening tests - IOW don't match levels, don't time synch the music, don't quick switch and by all means don't keep people from knowing which of the alternatives they are listening to at all times. Of course science tells us that audiophile-type listening tests aren't really listening tests at all. They test biases and preconceived notions, not actual sound quality. If you want to convince yourself that the craziest audio ideas that anybody comes up with are gospel truth - just keep basing all your conclusions on audiophile-type listening tests. arnyk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64365 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105775 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] free upgrade for linux LMS users
Or sticking to media analogies. Looking at a picture in a book, closing the book, opening it again to look at the same picture. Call me sceptic, but I don't feel the need to verify that it looks the same. This is the case here, nothing the player is aware of has changed. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106375 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bought a New Dac but had a problem
Mnyb wrote: > What was the company and brand of the DAC ? Thats most interesting > > It could serve as a warning to us all , there are some known scamsters > out there and it seems that people only dona qick google if att all , to > check things out ( usually reading rose tinted testimonials on mfg > website ). > > For 6-7 years ago i tried to buy a powersupply from such a company and > missed the many complaibts to trade organisations and treads on other > fora earning for this company in that case they ( he ) just took my > money . That was Wellborne labs. > > Despite reporting this here in several treads i had to tell my story in > several treads for years, and i think he is in business to this day . > Still some ask here about wellborne psu's. > > So please dont protect such a racket ? It only seves shoddy bussines > practice . > > In this cottage industry folks tends to not demand the same standards as > if a big multinational build the thing. > Sometimes thats fine ,but some actually uses our tendency to be nice I agree, it is important but I don't want to throw them under the bus just yet. From what I have seen they actually have pretty good customer service and are customer oriented. This seems like a one-off screw up, but just handled badly, plus to long shipping time doesn't help. edwardthern's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=66099 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106459 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bought a New Dac but had a problem
Well there is the Mytek that is called a "pre-amp version" but is actually a DAC too... drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106459 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bought a New Dac but had a problem
I just can't resist... Did you listen to it to make sure it wasn't a DAC that happened to look like a preamp? :) "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106459 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] free upgrade for linux LMS users
edwardthern wrote: > No not the same as putting too much salt on food, because I know what > thats like. Its more like putting a spice on some food that you never > tasted and commenting on how it tastes. OK, bad analogy. A better one would be seeing someone shining a flashlight at the food.Do I really need to taste it to know it won't make any difference? > But then we know what Heaven looks like don't we.:D Some people claim they do... "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106375 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
