Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?

2016-12-15 Thread doctor_big

drmatt wrote: 
> So bipolar Arny is back. It's just not allowed to hold a view that
> disagrees with yours, is it?
> 
> Do you have any successful interpersonal relationships in your life?
> Seems likely the only one is with your shrink.
> 
> The "dr" is not an affectation, it is my title. So grow up a bit old
> man.
Life is so much calmer with that bitter, sad little man on ignore. If
only folks would stop quoting him... 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DSP based room optimization

2016-12-15 Thread andy_c

Mongo wrote: 
> Hello Audio Engineers, 
> I read in these fora mention of DSP based room optimization. I have a
> highly non optimum room so anything helps.  
> Can anyone recommend software/hardware that does this?  Relatively easy
> to implement would be a good starting point.  
> thanks

Hi Mongo,
Are you referring to low-frequency optimization (bass-only in the modal
region) or over the full frequency range?  For low-frequency
optimization in the modal region only, there is a freeware available
called Multi-Sub Optimizer (MSO) that I wrote.  It's intended for users
having multiple subwoofers hooked up to their system using something
like a miniDSP 2x4 or Behringer DCX2496.  It's available through the
link in my profile.  Also, there is an '_article_by_miniDSP_'
(https://www.minidsp.com/applications/home-theater-tuning/ddrc-88a-multi-sub-optimizer)
about using MSO in conjunction with their Dirac-based DDRC-88BM, which
is an 8-channel analog in/analog out setup.  Dirac is well-liked for the
full-range equalization but I have not tried it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?

2016-12-15 Thread arnyk

drmatt wrote: 
> 
> 
> All along.
> 
> They appear to be on the verge of a new series of chips rumored to be
> called "Zen FX".
> 
> The pitch is that they will be 1-chip low powered solutions that can
> offer dedicated game console graphics and games on a laptop.
> 
> > > > 
> > Intel's next biggest foe is ARM, a market they are nowhere near having
> > even a serious contender in.> > 
> 
> Agreed.  
> 
> Where this gets a little On Topic is the fact that even the fastest
> current ARM processors (A15 level) are very slow compared to even a
> low end I3 or Celeron. This would only be acceptable for multimedia
> and audio (where ARM processors are making big inroads) if the CPU
> usage were truly modest and not demanding of mainstream home/laptop
> technology. This is true.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?

2016-12-15 Thread drmatt

I didnt even care what your background was, I didn't even care if you
were actually the pope or indeed someone nice in real life, I just think
it's pretty plain to see which direction the willfully insulting
language is flowing in this thread, as with so many others in the past.

I stand by my opinion and never told anyone it was anything but. You may
not be a moderator but every time a sane person would have left a thread
as "we disagree then, move on", you turn it into an opportunity to
practice your insults.

This is very boring for everyone else so PLEASE drop it today.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?

2016-12-15 Thread Julf

Could we please focus on facts instead of engaging in silly personal
attacks?



"To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this
fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt
edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?

2016-12-15 Thread arnyk

drmatt wrote: 
> So bipolar Arny is back. It's just not allowed to hold a view that
> disagrees with yours, is it?
> 

You must be delusional, "DrMatt". How can I keep you from holding or
expression a view that I disagree with?  Am I a moderator? Do I have
malware planted on your computer?

If you can't answer this question factually  "DrMatt"., then you are
again proven to be either delusional or just plain a habitual
prevaricator.

> 
> Do you have any successful interpersonal relationships in your life? 
> 

Does a 50 year marriage count?  How many times have you been married?

> 
> Seems likely the only one is with your shrink.
> 

Since no such person exists, more evidence of delusion or habitual
lying.

> 
> The "dr" is not an affectation, it is my title. So grow up a bit old
> man.

It's part of an alias  "DrMatt", as anybody can see. One sign of you
finally growing up would be you being accountable for your reprehensible
activities on the web as indicated by you posting under your legal name.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?

2016-12-15 Thread drmatt

arnyk wrote: 
> Good, congratulations on avoiding that common illusion/delusion.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In a way I agree with that.  The real problem is that so many of the
> original masters were made with just tons of wasted bits in the name of
> fashion and style.
> 
> 
> 
> Statements like this make it so obvious that you and the lessons and
> considerations of real world technology are strangers.  Efficiency and
> practicality seem to mean nothing at all to you.  Let me guess, you took
> your last hard science course in high school, right?
So bipolar Arny is back. It's just not allowed to hold a view that
disagrees with yours, is it?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?

2016-12-15 Thread arnyk

pablolie wrote: 
> And while I don't subscribe to the theory that resources stand in the
> way of wider 24/192 acceptance...
> 
> I agree with those that say that hearing a difference between 16/44 and
> 24/192 with the exact identical original master source is a futile
> exercise. And yet, I do own some 24/192 and other hirez recordings. Why?
> Oh well - why not, if I like the music? :-) It's only a few additional
> bucks, and it kinda guarantees I shall never have to buy the same music
> again, in the highly unlikely case some fundamental breakthrough allows
> me to suddenly discern a clear difference between 16/44 and 24/192. But
> then again at that point in time the studio will probably magically find
> a 96/768 master that sounds even better... :-D

I think its true that the reason why 24/192 doesn't have wider
acceptance is that unlike the advancement from consumer and pro analog
to 16/44. 24/192 offers no sound quality advantages at all.

However,  most rational people who are actually making the decisions
(unlike internet trolls who are in reality nobodies and have no power or
influence)  ask the question "Why waste resources with formats like
24/192 that offer no reliably audible benefit?"  and then the resources
waste issue seals the deal.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?

2016-12-15 Thread arnyk

drmatt wrote: 
> That makes two of us then.. and I never heard any difference between
> redbook and "hi-res" either,
> 

Good, congratulations on avoiding that common illusion/delusion.

> 
> I just don't see any point in down-sampling for consumer delivery.
> 


In a way I agree with that.  The real problem is that so many of the
original masters were made with just tons of wasted bits in the name of
fashion and style.

> 
> I just don't see any point in down-sampling for consumer delivery.
> 

Statements like this make it so obvious that you and the lessons and
considerations of real world technology are strangers.  Efficiency and
practicality seem to mean nothing at all to you.  Let me guess, you took
your last hard science course in high school, right?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DSP based room optimization

2016-12-15 Thread Mnyb

It has been part of Meridian HT processors since at least 2004.

It operates sligthly diffrent , its active under 300Hz and also corrects
the time domain you build several
Filters with sligthly diffrent target reverb times . The nodes does not
only have higher amplitude but also ladt longer in the time domain.

The 300Hz cut has to do with some phycoacoustic concern with direct vs
reflected sounds
, the brain actually have a kind of "gating function" even in a ver
reverberating room you can usually spot sound sources.
So messing things much with the direct sound to achieve better reflected
response mau not be perfect.

I have not fiddled with mini dsp , but certainly modern products will
have settings for you to fiddle with.

But as usuall DSP can make a good thing better . Not save a bad system.

For example realy awkward speaker placement or speakers with weird polar
paterns migrh be problematic.

Or trying to fill the nulls . Damping the peaks may be well and good but
trying to fill the nulls with 10-20db more acoustic output places high
demands on powerhandling and linearity. Robust speakers are
recommended.

Enjoy.

I really like room corection , a bonus is that subwoofers blends in much
better, the disconnect that always there is much less obvious.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] DSP based room optimization

2016-12-15 Thread drmatt

Jeff07971 wrote: 
> https://www.minidsp.com/

The 2x4 is a good price too. Worthwhile to try this out, thanks.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So they recommend Cat8 ethernet cables now!?

2016-12-15 Thread drmatt

pablolie wrote: 
> And while I don't subscribe to the theory that resources stand in the
> way of wider 24/192 acceptance...

That makes two of us then..



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