Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma
arnyk wrote: > OK so a frank analysis of what is obvioius to many can cause pain in > hypersensitive places; I can handle that! > > The name-calling and deceptive redaction of the OP is noted, and really > says all that I need to say. > What name calling? I called your -post- obnoxious, because, if we are being frank now, it was obnoxious. You saw a post about analog equipment and your objectivist warrior mode kicked in (if it is in fact ever turned off). Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108834 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma
I don't think it's an indictment of human hearing that people like LP so much. More a reflection of the fact that the net result of all the inevitable distortions seems to flatter the audio in the first place, making it better fit the home audio playback environment at lower listening levels and mitigating the worst mastering disasters too. -Transcoded from Matt's brain by Tapatalk- -- Hardware: 3x Touch, 1x Radio, 2x Receivers, 1 HP Microserver NAS with Debian+LMS 7.9.0 Music: ~1300 CDs, as 450 GB of 16/44k FLACs. No less than 3x 24/44k albums.. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108834 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma
Been away in Australia for a few weeks so late to this thread. Thought I'd offer my take on it. Vinyl LP technology is outdated, seriously flawed and quite frankly a bit of a dog's dinner. And yet - it can sound bloody marvelous. Go figure. My personal opinion is that it's because human hearing is sufficiently poor that even LP can be adequate. (I know Arny wouldn't agree). Bottom line : mastering quality is more important than the delivery medium. If the best master is only available on LP, then the LP will give the most enjoyable listening experience. As for the debate over cartridge types, I generally found that low output MC types gave more "boogie factor" than MM or high output MCs. Quite possibly less accurate than a decent Shure model, but in the context of vinyl, accuracy isn't really the point. And finally, if you're serious about vinyl, do yourself a favour and get a vacuum cleaning machine such as a Nitty Gritty, VPI or Moth. Or a Keith Monks if you're very rich. Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108834 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dilemma
Daverz wrote: > You know that Pascal can hear you, right? Do you not realize how > obnoxious this kind of cod psychoanalysis is? Especially as no claims > were made beyond "I enjoyed some records on my friends equipment." > OK so a frank analysis of what is obvioius to many can cause pain in hypersensitive places; I can handle that! The name-calling and deceptive redaction of the OP is noted, and really says all that I need to say. > > > Anyway, electro-mechanical transducers like phono cartridges have rather > gross differences from each other, even just in frequency response. > > > > > > > > More deception. > > > > The true facts are that different phono cartrdiges may or may not have > > audible timbre differences, but mismatching levels is well known way to > > make things sound different, especially in the realm of timbre. > > > > For example, play this file loud enough, and the first several tones > > will sound like they are have different pitch, even though the only > > difference is that they vary in loudness: > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/4yz96cxig0e3pen/dynamic%20range%20test%203%20KHz%20tone.flac?dl=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolute level matching is probably not essential during a casual > > > listening session at a friends house. > > > > > > > > > > > I never said that absolute level matching is required. More > > deceptive paraphrasing. I do recommend that levels be matched within > > +-0.1 dB based on average RMS levels across the whole selection, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do lament to the loss of measurements in modern reviews of analog > > > equipment.> > > > > > > > They can be found if you know where to look. > > > > For example: > > https://hometheaterhifi.com/reviews/vinyl/turntable-accessories/shure-m97xe-phono-cartridge-review/ > > > > > > However their loss is easy to attribute to the techical dumbing down > > of audio as a hobby based on rampant subjectivism. Solipsists have > > no need for measurements, they already have found the "Truth Within" arnyk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64365 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108834 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
