Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is this better than CD quality?
It may be better quality than CD, but odds are that you can't hear the difference. No one can. CD was designed to exceed the limits of human hearing and in the last 40 years we haven't evolved bat-like hearing (despite what people desperate to sell you the same music again say). Test yourself and you will find that CD resolution is all you need. Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=111693 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 16bit versus 24bit versus dynamic range
arnyk wrote: > This article > http://www.avsforum.com/forum/91-audio-theory-setup-chat/2370801-test-your-ability-hear-high-res-audio.html > shows tests you can do yourself to verify this: I had downloaded those files and discovered that it just doesn't matter. I don't *ever* listen at the sorts of volume that would be necessary to hear these differences. I'd be deaf in days. Right now I'm listening to Joss Stone (sounds great) and my SPL meter says I'm only listening at around 75 dB. So that 96 dB (or 110 or whatever) dynamic range of CD (ripped to FLAC in this case) is unimportant because I'm never going to listen to it loud enough that it would matter. These days I only get high def audio if it's cheaper than the CD (yes, that does happen), or it's multi-channel (which I can certainly hear and love). Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105717 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASURMENTS: Speaker Cables - Canare, Kimber, and the "Frankenstein"
Julf wrote: > Well done! You do realize that one day there will be a bunch of > "industry representatives" at your door, joined by huge crowds of > audiophiles with torches and pitchforks... Don't worry. Although they will have your name, address and a photo, that's empirical evidence which they won't believe. Eventually, one of them will point to a fire hydrant and say "I think that's him!" where upon they will string that poor hapless hydrant up and tar and feather it. :D Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103813 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Last words on PONO...
Pono just announced a new feature: PonoRevealer. It downloads the same song in multiple resolutions to your Pono player and then allows you to change resolutions in the middle of a song. Resolutions include: MP3 (Amazon), AAC (Mastered for iTunes), CD (44.1/16), 96/24 and 192/24. 'PonoRevealer' (https://www.ponomusic.com/ccrz__CCPage?oId=a20150BtIph&pageKey=product&type=Update) It sure would be interesting to see if someone can get at the low res files and see what Pono has actually done when down-rezzing the original file. A little science and some blind testing would be fascinating. Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102976 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cable burn in
FWIW: The piano strings *will* resonate along with the music, so keeping the piano tuned will probably make everything sound better. Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103502 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cable burn in
Anything that "burns in" or "breaks in" is also wearing out. Why would you buy a cable that's wearing out? (Basically, cable break in is a lie, just designed to get you to hold onto the new cable until you can't return it, because they sound *exactly* the same as much cheaper cables.) Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103502 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD's vs. vinyl
Julf wrote: > 'iZotope vinyl' > (https://www.izotope.com/en/products/effects-instruments/vinyl/) That's what I get for trying to be clever. Build a better mousetrap and nature will build better mice. Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD's vs. vinyl
probedb wrote: > Not really, you just happen to like the distortion etc that it > introduces, some people like lots of bass, some people like different > EQs. It's just that for vinyl people mistakenly associate it with a > better sound. There's nothing wrong with liking the sound of vinyl at > all. I think there is serious money to be made by someone who builds a device that sits between a CD player and an amp that introduces all of the distortions, frequency limitations, wow & flutter, etc. that vinyl has, and then periodically adds a click or snap to the audio and maybe even once a day skips forward or backward on a particularly loud passage to simulate a tone arm skip. An extra cost option would allow the user to control just how badly the mismatch is between the RIAA equalization curve applied during recording and playback. It could include a magnifying glass so CD artwork appears as big as an album cover. I think I'm off to the patent office. Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103078 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Last words on PONO...
Archimago wrote: > I keep seeing these Bennett/Lady Gaga Sony ads... Ghastly! I can't see > that album being a good ambassador for high-resolution. Actually, it's quite a good album. Don't let your biases prevent you from listening to good music. Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102976 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Last words on PONO...
atrocity wrote: > By the way, there's been an interesting trickle of old quadraphonic > mixes making it to DVD-A and (especially) SACD lately. More on Blu-Ray than DVD-A (by a long shot). I'm really enjoying High Fidelity Pure Audio. Many are multi-channel, including some you wouldn't expect like live jazz performances in the 50s and 60s. The nice thing about Blu-Ray is that it can be played on any Blu-Ray player so it doesn't require finding an SACD player, and BR is much easier to rip. Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102976 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is this a good way to compare interconnect cables?
I'm sorry your wife left you. Another victim of "the cable wars". ;-) Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102596 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Screws for the Transporter
Try contacting Support and asking them. They should be able to tell you, even for an out-of-production product. They may even be able to send you the replacements. Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102382 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Screws for the Transporter
Make sure you get audiophile screws. Normal hardware store screws will ruin your (insert usual audiophile junk here). But on a serious note, remove one of the remaining screws and take it with your to a good hardware store or an electronics store. The people there should be able to help you. Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102382 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CSNY 192/24 files - why keep?
RonM wrote: > Because the recording standards for a live recording from 40 years ago > are unlikely to have captured the level of detail that could, in theory, > benefit from the high resolution of the DVD audio. > That's the part I don't know that I agree with. I presume they dug up the original master tapes from the tour dates. If those have been stored well, and were originally recorded well (good tape, clean heads, engineers with some experience, etc.) there is no reason to assume that they can't recover audio in excess of 44.1 kHz/16-bit. RonM wrote: > Not to mention that there is precious little evidence that even under > optimal recording and playback conditions anyone could tell the > difference between 16/44 and 24/192 recordings. > That I do agree with (I have spent a lot on high res recordings over the years, but I'm not sure I wouldn't have been just as well off with the CD). They can release recordings with audio beyond the capabilities of a CD, but it may be that no one can actually hear the difference. And yes, I did buy CSNY 1974 and ripped the high res tracks. :-) Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101949 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CSNY 192/24 files - why keep?
RonM wrote: > Of course, this is 40 years ago, and live recordings. The odds of there > being any benefit to the high-res format are very low. Why do you say that? Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101949 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Need advice: Good FREE 24-bit music recording?
Mnyb wrote: > There is actually no streamer capable of doing this at the moment ? > I have a Panasonic DMP-BDT230 Blu-Ray player and use Asset UPnP (from the dbPoweramp folks) to stream any FLACs to my Denon receiver over HDMI. Since it's HDMI it should work with any receiver. The DBT230 is about $130 retail and is a very good BD player. It can play back any FLACs including multi-channel. The only issue is that it doesn't playback gapless, so when playing Dark Side of the Moon or live recordings there is a short gap between tracks (well under a second, but still very noticeable). I wish they would fix that. As for compatibility, it plays every FLAC I have tried and that includes stereo and multi-channel, 16 and 24-bit, and 44.1, 48, 88.2, 96 and 192 kHz. Mike Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101201 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Clowntime is NOT over
HeadBanger wrote: > It's very hard to get someone to admit otherwise unless you manage to > get them to do a true blind ABX. Which they will avoid like the plague! Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100783 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Multichannel streaming, anyone? 'Transporter Ultimate' fantasy :-)
Archimago wrote: > Over the years of building my digital music server, I've been adding > 5.1/5.0/4.0 FLAC's along the way as I rip DVD-A and SACD's (haven't done > any Blu-Ray yet). They're either 24/96 or 24/88. > > I looked at the directory today and see that I already have about 100 > albums at this point of multichannel material. > > I'm curious, is anyone doing any multichannel streaming out there? I > assume the most likely way to do this currently would be a PC/Mac --> > HDMI receiver. I would certainly love to be able to integrate this > collection into my LMS library as a single point of access some day! > > If something like the following exists, I suspect I'd be set for life > :-): > - Decodes 16/24-bit, 44/48/88/96/176/192 kHz stereo > - Decodes 16/24-bit, 44/48/88/96 kHz 5.1 multichannel > - Analogue Output: RCA and balanced with quality close to the > Transporter (quite hard to beat based on measurements) > - Digital inputs: gigabit Ethernet, TosLink, coaxial, HDMI, USB, WiFi > 802.11ac (coming later this year I think) > - Digital outputs: TosLink & coaxial downmix, HDMI passthru for > multichannel to outboard DAC > - A good screen that's dimmable / switch off - like the Touch, maybe > higher res and larger, no need for touch screen function > - A few buttons would be nice like on the current Transporter (no need > for the feedback wheel despite the coolness!) > > - Integrates into the LMS server! > > Price: ~$3000 seems fair... Why not just use a $400 laptop (with HDMI out) and foobar2000 to drive it? Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94710 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 24bit/192kHz Squeezebox Product
John A;651706 Wrote: > On both Touch and Radio, I hear audio from 192 kHz/24 bit FLAC files > just fine. No error message. Your local SqueezeBox server is down sampling the 192 kHz content. Try loading a 192 kHz file onto an SD card or USB stick and plug those directly into your Touch. You get an error message (sample rate too high). Mike -- Mike Sargent Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88056 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 24bit/192kHz Squeezebox Product
Mnyb;649943 Wrote: > Proper downsampling takes more cpu and memory than the Touch has. That surprises me. The touch can handle 5.1 channel sources at 96/24, which would be 50% more data than 192/24 stereo, and a lot more processing. Mike -- Mike Sargent Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88056 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New 24bit/192kHz Squeezebox Product
How about simply *allowing* the Touch to play 192 kHz tracks by downsampling to 96 kHz [ (A + B) >> 1 is pretty quick ]? That way we could at least hear those 192 kHz tracks instead of getting an error message. That should be cheap and easy to implement without requiring any major rewrites or hardware changes. Mike -- Mike Sargent Mike Sargent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88056 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
