Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB Touch: Internal server or computer server for best digital output SQ?
Does the Samsung HDD have it's own PSU, or is it being powered by the USB cable, and thus the SBT? I wonder if the PSU is more noisy when also powering the HDD? -- Mr_Sukebe SB Touch, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Hmmm, I've downloaded the latest version, manually installed it, overwritten the .pm file with the new one and then updated the .pm file. I'm still getting "plugin failed to load". Any good suggestions? -- Mr_Sukebe SB Touch, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch vs. Transporter digital output (again)
mswlogo;550412 Wrote: > They are both absolutely 100% bit perfect (TosLink and Coax, Wifi and > Wired). I've recorded the SPDIF on both and neither will miss a bit. > Only difference may be jitter. But as dicussed elsewhere a good DAC > will take care of that. Interesting, I've never found a DAC that can completely eliminate jitter and I've tried a few, including a Bel Canto DAC2 (that supposedly reclocked) and my existing Meridian 568.2 that uses some clever FIFO. On both DACs, different quality digital sources sounded different, implying that neither was fully successful in eliminating jitter. -- Mr_Sukebe SB Touch, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78441 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz results
It would have been helpful if you'd told us what the different coloured traces on the graph represented. I'm assuming that the green was before and the red afterwards. Certainly does look cleaned up, and the ability to tame room bass nodes is brilliant. It looks like you've had Inguz do the whole frequency range. When I tried it, I tried focussing on just the worst areas, which seemed to reduce potentially odd side effects and maximised the benefits. -- Mr_Sukebe SB Touch, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78949 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Antipodal filtering
Any news on this work chaps? I've recently heard a Meridian HD621, which applies their version of apodising. Have to say that it worked very well. For me, the differences were similar to moving from 16 to 24 bit files. One additional thought, do you chaps believe that it's best to run the filters whilst streaming? I did wonder whether it might make sense to apply a filter during an upsample using Foobar2000 or similar. -- Mr_Sukebe SB Touch, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69145 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-End Audio Mags - Lost & Useless
I'm rather surprised that you're surprised at how pointless most mags now are. The majority that I've seen seem to be full of overhyped reviews of kit with little comparative testing, poor understanding of the functionality, little context about the reviewers preferences or synergy with alternative kit types. I can't even bring myself to buy them for reading whilst bored on the toilet. -- Mr_Sukebe SB3, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75908 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Antipodal filtering
michael123;511226 Wrote: > Which news are you waiting for? Well I live in hope that someone can put together a plugin that does what the Meridian apodising filters do. I was wondering whether anyone has got close. -- Mr_Sukebe SB3, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69145 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Antipodal filtering
Any news on the filtering chaps? -- Mr_Sukebe SB3, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69145 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Antipodal filtering
Any news or updates regarding how the testing is going chaps? I'm certainly interested. -- Mr_Sukebe SB3, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69145 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/192kHz capability for Transporter
pfarrell;473507 Wrote: > ...And there is no serious evidence that there is any signal that would > benefit from the 96 kHz bandwidth of the 24/192 size over the 48kHz > bandwidth that 24/96 provides... > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the frequency bandwidth defined by the number of bits (in this case 24), with the 192khz defining the sample rate? -- Mr_Sukebe SB3, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 24/192kHz capability for Transporter
cmarin;473244 Wrote: > Who is the manufacturer of the Touch? And does it provide 24/192kHz > capability? The Touch is the upcoming new Squeezebox, and won't support 24/192 files. The only streamer I'm aware of that will support such high res files are the Linn DS kit. -- Mr_Sukebe SB3, Meridian 568.2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system, audio-technica and Zanash cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter wish list...
The things that come to mind are: - Ability to act as a server and address an external USB drive, as per the Touch - Support for 24/192 files - A seriously good volume control, allowing the Transporter to be used as a digital pre-amp - A better set of switching logic to allow more user friendly switching between digital inputs (I haven't got experience of changing between inputs on a transporter, but I've read that it's not great) - Uprated clocks and PSU. An option would be to support the use of an external power supply (as per how Naim/Cyrus give the option) -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69447 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can you hear the difference?
My SB+ only supports upto 24/48, but I have compared that against a 16 bit version of the same file, having used Foobar to downsample(?) from 24 to 16 bit. IMO the 24 bit sounded a good deal better, at least on my system. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60665 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS
opaqueice;399548 Wrote: > Because any high-end digital source will have a flat frequency response > down to below the threshold of audibility, while on the other hand your > brain (and speakers and room) has an enormous effect on your perception > of the amount of bass. Unless one of them is broken, claiming the > Transporter has "less bass" than the Majik after listening to it is as > silly as feeling the air in London and declaring that the weather at > that moment must be nicer in New York than it is in Instanbul. I've got to ask, how many "high-end" digital sources have you listened to? The ones that I've heard over the years generally sounded quite different in their presentations, which would seem to contradict your statement a little. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS
browellm;397527 Wrote: > Would this be on the Linn forums? It would help you you could reference > the source. There are comments on both HifiWigwam and Pinkfish comparing the two. I don't consider either forum to be particularly pro either product. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS
Based on what I heard on dem'ing a Majik DS, and comments elsewhere, I would guess that the Majik would be very close to the Transporter on overall SQ. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] T class amplifiers
I've got both ends of the Tripath spectrum, i.e. a cheapo Sonic-T and a Bel Canto Evo2i (costing roughly 100 times the amount of the Sonic-T). Sure enough, they don't sound the same. The Sonic-T is a brill piece of kit for the pittance is costs, however it's not going to really challenge a half decent amp (IMO). The Evo2i is a different animal altogether, and I've still yet to hear anything short of a something like a Wavac (LOTS more expensive) that I'd prefer. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59916 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Am I imagining this? Squeezecentre 7.3 sounds worse than 7.2.1?
Having played more extensively with 7.3.1 in the last week, I'm now switching permanently to 7.2.1, at least until the change is removed. Definitely sounds worse to me. The extra "brightness", whilst useful for creating air, also results in a loss of low noise floor once my system is warmed up. Just loses some of the magic. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Am I imagining this? Squeezecentre 7.3 sounds worse than 7.2.1?
I've got to and from 7.3.1 and 7.2.1 (and vice versa) a couple of times now, and am sure that 7.3.1 sounds a little "brighter". Still mulling over whether I like the change or not. My system usually takes a good 30 mins of use to really wake it up, and the additional "brightness" is rather useful at first. Unfortunately my better half keeps interrupting before too long into the post 30 mins area, so still not fully sure. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter versus Duet, trying to decide
Strikes me that you're going to be limited by how good your AV amp is. I've yet to hear one that I think can really deal with music. So I'd suggest you go the cheap option of the duet, as I just don't see you getting the benefit of the extra spend on the transporter. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55672 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can you recommend an audio dealer in London?
You could try the Cornflake shop, or Grahams. I've visited both, and they're helpful and not too pushy. You'll find details for each on the net. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51973 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modwright TP: Balanced or Single Ended
Kind of makes a mockery of threads like "what balanced DAC should I buy". My understanding is that in theory balanced should have the edge, but requires a good implementation, and as such can result in a worse solution. After years of seeing this kind of technology at all costs being preached, I'm now a believer in the idea that if it sounds better, then it is. Go enjoy! -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48673 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Behringer DEQ2496 in Transporter digital loop for room correction?
I used a Behringer DEQ2496 for around a year in between my digital transport (CD transport) and external DAC (Bel Canto DAC2). In the room in question, I found it to be VERY useful, as the room had serious audio issues and make my system sound pretty rubbish. Having said that, I then moved into a newer house with a much better listening room, which pretty much removed the requirement for the 2496. In that context, I found the impact on sound quality to be unacceptably high. It really isn't quite as transparent as we'd like to think (or hope). Note that this was using the 2496 with only a digital input and output, and with minimal manually applied room correction to only deal with a bass overhang. In short, if you have a decent room, don't bother as it'll be more damaging than useful. In a really naff room, can be very useful. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48350 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Volume control question-Does it threw out bits?
Anyone actually run a comparison between the digital volume of the Transporter and a genuine high quality pre-amp? -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48368 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Vibration Control on SB or power supply
I've found Stillpoints to be effective with a wide variety of kit. My SB+ is a two box version of the SB3, with the PSU in one box, the other components in the other. My testing showed there to be no significant benefit from using Stillpoints under the PSU. Having said that, it was definitely worth the effort putting them under the control box. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] audio insanity
Skunk;296772 Wrote: > I'm in the 'give the guy a break' camp though. That could just as easily > be a $500,000 painting on the wall, or a collector's car in the garage > that never gets driven, both of which would provide much less overall > enjoyment. Probably more importantly is the fact that we're guessing at how good it can be and are trying to apply our existing knowledge and experience on how it will sound. As an analogy, valve amps should be rubbish as they really don't measure well, yet somehow the Border Patrol and Wavac stuff I've heard can bring me to tears with how good they are. Another way to consider it is that just maybe he knows something we don't, after all it's not that he can't buy a much cheaper system using the ubiquotous 2 way floorstanders and brand X amps. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46270 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rc / Eq
I'm going to sit on the fence on this and say "it depends". I've used a Behringer DEQ2496 in my system very successfully in my old flat, but that was partly to do with the fact that the room in question had a lot of issues. In my new house, the listening room is clearly a lot better and I actually found that the 2496 was detrimental to the sound, even with everything disabled. So I'm going to suggest that in a troublesome room, can work wonders, otherwise it can be best without. For reference, I had played a lot with the DEQ and found that the auto-correction was particularly intrusive, and that a manual correction to dial out too much bass was the least intrusive. My setup was dedicated CD transport > DEQ2496 > External DAC > Stereo amp > speakers. So in theory, the DEQ was only taking in a digital signal and spewing one out of the other side. Quite how it damaged the sound quality just by being in sequence, I've never understood. I've also heard a full on TACT system, and prefered that with the DRC out of the loop. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46903 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] audio insanity
Interesting level of negativity on here, particularly so as I'm assuming that no one here has actually head the system in question. As for WAF, chances are that he's rich enough to have a dedicated listening room that his wife never has to go in, so why not get the best system he can if he has the dosh. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46270 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 2 weeks without LP's!
A potential reason for the OP to be suffering the issues is system synergy. I remember a few years ago visiting a chap with a Linn/Naim system. Have to say that he played some vinyl, and it was jaw droppingly good. He then cued up his Naim CDX, which virtually ripped my ears off. Truly awful. I didn't understand why until I'd listened to a bunch of other systems. My opinion now is that the two mediums do tend to sound different. The result can be that if you optimise your systems for LP replay, then CD most certainly WILL sound ghastly. Of course the same is true the other way around. The only solution for multi-format users appears to be to get an LP spinner that is similar in presentation to a CDP (e.g. some of the Gyrodecks). -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46547 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] UK: High sen sitivity floor-standers?
Some of the Focal units make it upto around 91bd/watt. Another option would be some of the cheaper horns. My old Impulse Lali's sold for £450 last year and have a slightly better efficiency than the Focals. If you can find a pair s/h, would be worth going to listen to. Another option are some of the Audio Note/Snell speakers. Most are pretty ugly, but they can sound ace when mated with the right source. Note that horns and high efficiency speakers have their own compromises. For example, my own are ruthlessly revealing of their source. The first time I heard a pair, I thought they sounded truly awful. Turned out that it was simply a really naff front end. The system you mention would probably work quite well with some cheaper horns, but be aware that you may want to look at better sources as a result. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43706 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What a difference a DAC makes...
If you can, try removing the DEQ from your system. I did use a DEQ for a while as my old lounge benefitted from the room correction. However, in my new room, it caused more problems than it solved. So it's clearly room dependant regarding benefits, but be aware that it's certainly NOT non intrusive. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43046 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 or Transporter into quality external DAC
I used to have a DAC that was supposedly "jitter resistant", and used the same solution as in the Benchmark DAC1. I still found that it sounded better with a better transport. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42392 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs. Denon 2800mkII sound quality ???
I've just sold on my Bel Canto DAC2, which was previously hanging off the back of my SB+ (modded SB3 on steroids). I found that the full version of the SB+ sounds very very similar to the BC DAC2, only with better controlled bass. Might be worth considering as you could probably sell the SB3/DAC2 for not far off the cost of an SB+. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41717 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe morris_minor;247090 Wrote: > Nice! But you forgot to mention the Morphy Richards SureFlow-Steam room > conditioner . . . I'm sure you'll be happy to know that the DEQ is now long gone. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe [image: http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/mgjk/Home/Stereo.jpg?t=1196852526] -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will Linn high resolution recordings play on an SB3?
Stoker;244744 Wrote: > Downsampling does not reduce the bit depth, i.e. 24-bits remain 24-bits > so you will still benefit form the fact that the Linn files are 24-bit > and not 16-bit. > > Why not try an experiment by downloading a single track from Linn at CD > quality and Studio Master quality, and then downsample the master > quality version to 24/48 (or 24/44.1 depending on whether the origonal > master is 96 or 88.2) using foobar or some other tool. If you can tell > the difference buy the one you prefer else buy the cheapest! > > Some experiments I tried a while ago indicated, to my ears, that 24-bit > quantisation was more important than sampling rate. What I'm saying here > is that I couldn't tell the difference between 24/96 and 24/48 where as > I could tell the difference between 16/48 and 24/48. It wasn't a > massive difference though. Good call. Hardly as though it's an expensive test to run. I'll keep you posted. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40484 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will Linn high resolution recordings play on an SB3?
adamslim;244666 Wrote: > Use Foobar to downsample them to 24/44.1 or 24/48 as appropriate rather > than relying on the SB to do it properly (it doesn't). > > I have a few and they sound fantastic, but I imagine that the CDs do > too - never compared them! > > Adam Doesn't downsampling them reduce absolute audio quality and kind of defeat the point of them? -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40484 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will Linn high resolution recordings play on an SB3?
I've just been looking at the Linn high-res website (here): http://www.linnrecords.com/linn-help-downloads-studio-master-quality-album-downloads.aspx Will these playback at full resolution on an SB3? -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent system cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40484 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Remember the Randi million dollar cable challenge?
So did the owner of the Sirius sell his Nordost cables post the test? -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40387 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz or Behringer DEQ2496?
I've heard the TACT system and own a Behringer. I feel that both have negative impact on the signal, despite processing only a digital signal. I'd assume that Inguz is less intrusive, but has anyone compared the sound with it in and out of use? -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40023 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hi-Fi critric reveals their limited vision
I personally don't see Paul M's comment as anything to do with hi-fi, and everything to do with the stereotypical Brit, who seems to love saying that they don't understand computers and don't want to. Just how many times have you seen a similar comment in the media? We just love downplaying any technical ability as though it's a crime. Quite clearly, SB owners are part of the exception to the rule and are substantially more PC literate than your average person. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39438 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB+ info please
Vic;239335 Wrote: > Yes, I have read your thread with interest, thanks to the link given > above by Adamslim. > I agree with your points, although I wonder how the full analogic SB+ > would have compared. > You also say that the DEQ2496 produces some hormful artefacts in your > rig. Could you develop? I did hear the full analogue version of my SB+/DAC2 combo and thought they were very similar. Ref the 2496, I was running it with only a small manual correction. Despite that, the impact was a serious reduction in low end bass, and a harshening of the sound across the rest of the range. If you've heard a low jitter source vs a standard, then expand up it's effects, it was something like that. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB+ info please
This weekend I had a comparison of my SB+ (digital only version) into my Bel Canto DAC2 vs a Denson (400?) CDP. Despite the fact that my SB+ was sat on Stillpoints and using better power and interconnect cables, both myself and the owner of the Denson preferred the sound of the Denson. On some tracks, there was little in it, on others, there was quite a difference, the SB+/DAC2 combo sounding "soggy" by comparison. What I mean by that is that the Denson was simply a lot more taut. Having said all of that, the Denson costs £2500 new, so to me that infers that the SB+ can compete with units upto around the £2k mark. I'd expect the Opus to have the edge. Regardless of the sonics, I still wouldn't change from the SB+ as I just love the functionality, and it still sounds brilliant. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] My TP system sounds so lifeless :(
>From experience, I'd suggest you look first at your Arcam unit. Arcam tend to be nice, polite and IMO a little yawnable. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mid life hi-fi crisis
Ray70;234352 Wrote: > Mr Sukebe - Be interested to hear how your SB+ performs with and without > the Bel Canto Dac. Ray> My opinion is that the DAC2 is not better, just different. I've compared briefly between the two and there really is very little in overall difference. The reason why I use the DAC2 are: - I use a Behringer DEQ2496 between the SB+ and my DAC (purely in the digital domain), to use for room correction and deal with my primary bass room node - The speakers I use can be a little too forward when mated with the wrong kind of source/amp combo (they're horrible with Naim). Not only is the DAC2 very good, it's also relatively laid back and is very synergistic with my speakers. If I didn't want the above, I'd go with a bare SB+, as I'm sure it would be just as good, along with being a good deal cheaper. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39182 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Mid life hi-fi crisis
Monty_W;234269 Wrote: > Hi zanash, > > > > > How would you describe the differences between the DAC1 and behringer? > I'd be interested to hear your views. > > Thanks, > > MontyW I've heard Zanash's modded SRC and also a DAC1 in my own system. I preferred the SRC. The DAC1 was just to dry and lacking in tonal information. It had plenty of leading edges which makes it seem incredibly detailed. Put it against something really good, and you realise that it's missing some of the info about how say a singer is singing, i.e. the inflections that a singer would it. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39182 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Which sounds better?
abelincoln;234033 Wrote: > Music playing on a $15K CD player or the same recording on a $200 SACD > player because of the higher resolution? I've dem'd a mid-range ($600) Marantz SACD player and found it to be roughly on pair with a CD player costing around twice the price. I'd expect a real high end CDP to walk all over a $200 SACD unit. Thinking about it, my old DVD player is SACD capable and costs around $200 when new. It never gets used. Does that tell a story? -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39167 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 digital output quality
Do digital sources sound different? IMO yes, though it's dependant upon the quality of the downstream kit to be able to show up those differences. Ref the SB3, it can be improved with better clocks, PSUs etc, though don't ask me about modding, as that's far from my area of expertise. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39113 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Parametric Equalizer?
Another option is a unit like the Behringer DEQ2496. Feed it a digital output from the SB and let it do it's stuff. Not only can it complete either an automatic, or a manually completed room correction, but it can also be used in conjunction with a mic for measuring the room. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38739 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 into Meridian DSP5000's?
Sounds feasible. The only drawbacks I can see are that the SB3 as standard isn't the worlds greatest digital source. In addition, the 5000s have their own style of presentation, clearly very marmite. I've heard them and didn't like them, but go check them out for yourself, you may love them. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38527 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB vs SB+ vs Transporter as transports
To add to this. I've been running my SB+ for a few months now, and it's simply awesome. Be aware however that I found mine needed a good month to run in the PSU. On getting it out of the box I found it well behind the expected results. Ref cables, I use Coherent power cables and haven't found anything better yet. For interconnects, I replaced some Coherent ones with one built by Zanash from the ZG forum. Not cheap, but brilliant cable. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36561 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Room EQ
Yep, I use one. What would you like to know? Some immediate thoughts that might pre-empt your questions: - Mine is connect between my SB+ and DAC, thus totally in the digital domain. It can take analogue inputs and has analogue outputs - As purely a DAC, it's no great shakes, though I've heard a modded one (from Audiosmiles), which improved it a lot and IMO put it on par with a Benchmark DAC1 and sounded similarly dry. - If you buy the mic that goes with it, it's very useful for identifying the peaks and troughs that you might have in your room. - I tried the auto-equalisation and it certainly does work, resulting in a completely flat response. Unfortunately it also made a bit of a mess of the music, so I can't recommend that mode. - I DO use a manual override, aimed at quelling just one specific room node at 60hz. The impact from a single manual override is very small, but the benefits of getting rid of that "peak" are definitely well worth the effort. Hope that helps. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36397 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stax "Earspeakers"
When I was younger, I remember dem'ing a pair of Stax Lambda pro. At the time, they were awesome. A couple of years ago, I looked seriously at ditching my speakers/amp and going with just a CDP and headphones. Based on previous experience, I went straight out to try some Stax. I lined a comparison up between a pair of 3030s and some Senn 600s on the backend of a decent headphone amp. The result was not quite what I expected. Overall I prefered the Senns, I think because they gave a more similar presentation to my Linn speakers. The Senn combo was better in the bass, but had worse detail and wasn't as airy. More interestingly, I then compared with my speakers at home, at which point I canned the idea of the headphones as the speakers really were MUCH better to listen to. Assuming you want a pair of headphones, the implications are that the Stax will do some things better than virtually everything else available, but won't be perfect. Picture them as the Quad ESLs of headphones. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36055 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Sb+
jtc;207440 Wrote: > I have just committed to buying a used SB+ to replace my SB3. I had > always planned either to have the SB3 improved by adding a decent DAC > and/or room correction, or moving to an SB+, and as luck would have it > everything came together so SB+ it is. > Hope you enjoy as much as I do mine. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35926 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Importing Bel Canto to th UK
I had a look at importing a pair of A1000s myself last year. I'm not wholy sure, but I don't believe that they auto adjust for voltage. Note however that you do have another option, which is to buy from another country, such as Singapore. I found a dealer out there who'd sell me one at the same price as the US. Singapore are already 240v. Note that the transport boxes aren't small, so getting them past customs could be "fun". -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35221 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter listening test
Interesting findings. That's quite different to my own experiences, where I've found that just tweaking CD transports can make a good and noticeable difference. Guess we all listen in different ways. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35068 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe See my sig for details of the kit: [image: http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/mgjk/ABAF1146-01a.jpg] -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice on DACs - eg Shek d2?
willyhoops;196976 Wrote: > > since i need a few of these thinbgs maybe i can buy your shrek when > your sb+ arrives! I might be willing to part with my v2 DS NOS DAC. Note that it would include a high quality upgrade PSU. Drop me a PM if you're interested. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34717 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice on DACs - eg Shek d2?
I have a DS Shrek v2 NOS DAC, which I used for around a year, for the money a good piece of kit. As already stated, does "natural" very well. My only drawback was that some of the newer upsampling DACs show up a lack of both detail and "air" around instruments. It really comes down to what you're looking for and also system synergy. My personal favourite for peanuts is the Behringer SRC 2496, which in modded form, is very close to the Bel Canto DAC2 that I presently use. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34717 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?
cliveb;194546 Wrote: > As a result, many modern pop and rock releases do sound better on vinyl > than CD, because the medium prevents the use of hypercompression. This > suggests that the colourations and distortions of vinyl are often > preferable to the effects of hypercompression. > Clive, I'm a little confused about your point on hypercompression. I assume the issue we're talking about is how so many recent pop CDs have everything compressed into a 6-7db volume range. I thought that this would have been completed during mastering, and as such would result in it being applied to both CD and LP in the same way. Is this not the case? -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34379 ___ audiophiles mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] McIntosh MS300
gbruzzo;194409 Wrote: > Mr_Sukebe, > What are your criticisms of B&W speakers (just very curious - no intent > at provocation)? Are they too cold? What are your favourite speakers? As mentioned, it's a personal thing. I find B&W speakers to have a very ploddy bass. There's a lot of it, but it's timing never seems to be inline with the rest of the band. I simply can't get on with them. Heard it on everything from their cheaper speakers upto their £10k behemoths powered by a top of the range Naim system. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34396 ___ audiophiles mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] McIntosh MS300
Speakers are probably the most personal choice within a stereo system. Whilst I love what I own, you might hate them, so it's fairly pointless me recommending them or similar. Additionally, I really really don't like B&W speakers. Simply never heard a pair that did anything but put me off. You really need to go out a listen to a whole bunch of different types to see which you prefer. When I've heard Mac gear, it's been with their own speakers, which are also very weird looking. I'd suggest you find something you like. With regards to kit you could put in your lounge, a couple of other options come to mind: - A laptop with an external hard drive attached. I intended to use my own SB+ this way as we have an old laptop kicking around. Unfortunately the laptop in question was so old that it's simply got too little RAM to be effective (128MB). The benefits of a laptop would be size and relatively cool running. - A NAS such as a QNAP unit e.g. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Qnap-TS-101500GB-TS-101-500Gb-Slimserver/dp/B000F9TD1I/ref=pd_bbs_sr_8/203-6345931-5577569?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1176393881&sr=8-8 NAS units can run the slimserver software, meaning that as long as you have another PC which can upload to the NAS, this can be run independantly. It won't have video capability, but should be quiet and cool, also cheaper than a full server. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34396 ___ audiophiles mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] McIntosh MS300
Most of the AV servers that I've seen details of do appear to almost always have some kind of odd drawback or design flaw. My personal preference is a big PC case hidden out of sight, connected via RF to the SB. That allows plenty of HD storage and cheap upgrades. Ref Mac kit, I've heard their gear at shows and have come away impressed everytime. The looks are rather marmite (you either love or hate them), but their build quality and sound is unquestionably awesome. What about your Transporter running into a Mac based system? Wouldn't be cheap, but would blow the doors off most systems. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34396 ___ audiophiles mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So what are the 'audiophile camps' anyway?
Having been fiddling around with kit for a couple of decades now, I think that the 3 camp stuff is a little simplistic. Whilst the groups you mention, might be the "major" camps, and you have to do is ask for a recommendation on a piece of kit, and see the answers you get. On far too many forums you'll get an answer of "buy X piece of kit, it's ace, cos I've got one", and if said piece of kit is twice the budget suggested there's probably going to be "save up for it, don't be a stingy git, you know it'll be worth it". Frankly, completely useless advice. My belief is that almost all manufacturers have their own style of presentation, often denoted by history, and the preference of their designers. So Arcam does sound different to Linn, Naim, Audionote, Krell, Musical Fidelity etc, and NONE of those answers are wrong. If the designer liked it, it means that some % of the buying public probably will to. As such, the important bit in our hobby is to find the style of presentation that bests suits the individual. Unfortunately it's not an easy thing to do, and can be quite expensive along the way. As for myself. From experience I like the dynamics of horn loaded speakers, have found that they work best with valve styles of presentation and don't want something that will rip my head off when I try to play compressed rock music. So my system has awesome transient attacks which has been achieved without the use of over energetic leading edges, meaning that it can be used effectively with a wide variety of music. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34379 ___ audiophiles mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)
Another classic thread. Someone posts a review of a product owned by a person on here, and the magazine is clearly a rag, their testing is bad, the review sample was off and the reviewer is clearly tone deaf. What is it with some people on forums that they can't stand to have their kit criticised in anyway, shape or form. Frankly, who cares? If you like what you've bought, smile, be happy and stop making the rest of us wonder whether you're still suffering from cognitive dissonance. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33276 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB+ review by TNT - Audio
opaqueice;190579 Wrote: > As an engineer, you must be aware of the importance of doing controlled > measurements. Have you (or anyone else) ever done a blind listening > test comparing the SB+ playing music to the stock SB? Just a thought on this question. As Patrick builds the SB+ by starting with a standard SB, don't you think that it would be fairly reasonable to assume that he's done a comparison between the two. Furthermore, lets assume he has, and has then gone on to market the SB+ at about five times the cost of the standard SB. To me that suggests one of two potential options: 1. He really believes that it is substantially better 2. What terrible cad he is, fobbing on this expensive tat As he's apparently never received a returned unit, which do you think is the most likely? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pass any judgement about how well an SB+ compares to a Transporter, never heard the two together, but it would seem reasonable to at assume it is likely to be at least fairly good. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33917 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB+ review by TNT - Audio
amcluesent;190547 Wrote: > >I'm using the SB+ purely as a transport< > > Thought the only point of the SB+ was it replaced the SB's DAC. > Surely an SB3 with linear PSU would do what you wanted? Two versions of the SB+ exist, one with a built in DAC, one without. As can be seen on my sig, I run a digital output via a Behringer 2496DEQ for room correction, before going onto my BC DAC. As such, I had no intention of using the built in DAC in the SB+, regardless of how good it is. I had been told that the digital output was a good deal better than the standard SB3, and the fact that it can compete with a good CD transport bears that out. I know a chap with a std SB3 who's heard a Meridian 500 transport (and that's a non-clocked 500), and thought that the 500 was a good deal better. Hope that helps. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33917 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB+ review by TNT - Audio
Just to add. I recently took delivery of an SB+, never heard a Transporter so can't comment about a potential comparison. I'm using the SB+ purely as a transport, outputting the digital signal to an external Bel Canto DAC2. What I can comment on is the difference between my existing Meridian 500 CD tranport, which is rated as one of the better CDTs available, and that's before you add in the uprated clock, use of good anti-vibration kit. Out of the box, I preferred the Meridian, that was at least until the SB+ PSU got some time on it to burn in. The SB+ now sounds very much on par with my Meridian, meaning that I'm a happy bunny. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33917 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Flac
The Linn website might interest you. Not only has full bandwidth CD WAV level files for download, but also 24 bit files, comparable to SACD. Might be worth a look. -- Mr_Sukebe SB+, Behringer 2496DEQ, Bel Canto DAC2, Bel Canto Evo2i, Impulse Ta'us, Coherent cables, Stillpoints Mr_Sukebe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33813 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
