Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] powered monitor recommendations
The Quads are are too reaviling. If you listen to radio/mp3`s in office. Some songs are good though, but you have to listen to some bad ones, unfortunately. You need a Transporter/DAC1(flac,wav) or simular i think, to make them sound good. For the time being i havent had the pleasure to try it out. Its a theory. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55895 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Loss from Ethernet Cable?
Who knows. Maybe noice. Has somebody tried with a SAS - SCASI(or something)? A good cd player drive is how fast? Why? There are 1 or 2 engineers known for making very good cd player drives, i have read on the internet somewhwer a while ago. Maybe they can make a very good harddrive? Just my 2 cents of late night thinking. It is a market for 50 terrabyte of completely silent hi fi harddrives, or not? -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41268 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Loss from Ethernet Cable?
Its not an absolute claim: A harddrive can have a bad influence of the sound. That is on of many reasons we use streaming boxes, i think. It may be a difference between a Seagate or Western digital or betwee the same ownership marks, or what? What about a special designed hi fi harddrive? Its easy to understand. They are not spinning around accurate. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41268 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs 'Duet + Benchmark Dac1-Pre'
No remote control bechause of the bit tansparency or something Benchmark are not used to produce home audio i guess. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Amphony 2500 5.8 GHz DIGITAL Wireless Headphones
I am wondering about when are this Sound About Lossles codec implemented in bluetooth deveices? The article is a year old now. http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9753434-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50033 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
pfarrell: "This is why real audiophiles put the computer with SqueezeCenter in the basement or otherwise far away from the serious listening area". I will do that later. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
And fan. If a noicy computer is in the listening room it has an audible effect when playing at low volum... I have an air turbulence noice with the fan that are driving air out of the box.Not very high though, but i want to kill it. Without this fan the computer whould be almost dead silent. Is this fan imprtant. I want to cut the wire. I have read that the CPU plug/psu on the motherboard(not he on at the rear of the box) makes more noice feeding millions of transistors. Millions of transistors tapping up and down. More expensive motherboard > usally more quality mother board components(silent). I dont think it is a problem with todays computers/SB/DAC/soundcards. Especially not when connected wia ethernet. This post is also an excuse not to do the whasing-up(kitchen) yet, but later. In a 4-5 weeks time, i will "maybe" try SB3 digital in to a soundcard and then analog out. If i can install Japanese software. Maybe difficult to find English software to this soundcard. English driver setup to the chipset on soundcard is possible i think. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean
HDMI - *translates to* - Happy Doing Movie Interface -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49745 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean
I dont think Sean has time to watch movies.. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49745 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What DAC to use?
sfraser;318144 Wrote: > I purchased a Benchmark DAC-1 last year for my 2 channel system. I am > pretty hard pressed to hear any difference between the SB3 internal DAC > and the DAC-1. > > For reference, the system is used in a near-field listening environment > and consists of > > SB3-> Benchmark DAC-1->Bryston BP25 preamp-->Bryston 3B Amp--PMC > loudspeakers. > > Either my ears are "off" (which is possible) or there is a good DAC > built into the SB3. > > My 2 cents. Do you use digital or analog out from DAC1? -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49316 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Converting to 2.0 PCM format
Is there a universal dvd player or something else with digital in/out that has the CHOICE of converting any format to PCM 2.0, if you for any reason want to do so? If so, would Transporter play this PCM 2.0 stream? -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49588 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
I have read that musicians use different acoustic guitars for different songs. Its still an acoustic guitar. I have read that some professional studio engineers use different speakers(monitors) for different songs. Its still speakers(monitors) -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AKG 940 AFC Wireless Phones
Wonder if this bluetooth codec is finished yet? http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9753434-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47652 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] M-audio Audiophile 2496 sound card problem
Try to only install drivers from M-Audio website, not all the contents on the cd. Only the drivers from the website.See if the computer will run then. Many years ago. I think i remember that there was something, a program or drivers from one of the cd`s that shoulod not be installed. It whould not work. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47629 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] please urgent answer - want to be shure
This will help. $100 for the nanno i think. Works well http://www.smproaudio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=81&Itemid=112 -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47520 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] audio insanity
I think its just a very very rich man who happens to like music. Lucky funny chap. Nice pictures and entertaining to whatch. I can picture to my self walking around and listen to music with a glass of wine in the left and a smoke in the rightif i were a rich mantra da da da da li da dum :). -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46270 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Radio quality ?
Hello, i am from Norway too. Real jazz, vocal jazz, acoustic cafe, chill, ambient, alt country, blues and sometimes rock mix at RADIO IO under the radio.com link in your SlimServer sounds really good. One time it was like the drum whisk followed me out the door when i went out for a smoke. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46935 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB-3 and external DAC
Regarding decent signal the radio.com-radio io? Sounds good through only Squeezebox. Especially jazz, ambient. A bit surpricing since it is internet radio.. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
Thank you for clarify that. I was dam sure about my statement. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
I am not an expert. Amateur/fun. I can picture to my self that there is no problem connecting Transporter or DAC1 USB directly to active speakers. In addition they will have a function like preamps, dont they? Since you can have two computers, cd player etc connected and switch between them with a knob or in Transporters case a remote. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
Quad 12L Active http://www.quad-hifi.co.uk/model.php?sector_id=2&range_id=5&model_id=23 Quad amplifier and the optioon of xlr input. I use only Squeezebox-rca in(cheap) Play jazz very good, acoutsic,blues,ordinary rock good. Eva Cassidy-Imagine-10.Danny Boy very good. Heavy Metal and Classic not that good. At least they play Metallica St.Anger good. You can hear the strange after sound tone in one of the ordinary drums like Pooggood production. $1500 in Sweeden, but in USA or Great Britain +- $1000 Ok speakers, but you need Transporter, Dac1, Quad CDP etc to get the best of them. Then, the system will be expensive. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q:Best BUDGET power or integrated AMP (under$1000)
Software Engineer, I quoted you by an accident. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31843 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q:Best BUDGET power or integrated AMP (under$1000)
SoftwireEngineer;274672 Wrote: > I suggest a Panasonic xr55, 57 or xr700. You can dualamp, triamp these > in stereo mode. Magnepans have stable impedence so should be ok with > the Panny. A Squeezebox paired with the Panny using a Glass toslink, > will give you the most transparent sound. > (the Primare suggested here would be the other end, full-bodied/smooth > but really not neutral or transparent) Quad 12L Active http://www.quad-hifi.co.uk/model.php?sector_id=2&range_id=5&model_id=23 Quad amplifier and the optioon of xlr input. I use only Squeezebox-rca in(cheap) Play jazz very good, acoutsic,blues,ordinary rock good. Eva Cassidy-Imagine-10.Danny Boy very good. Heavy Metal and Classic not that good. $1500 in Sweeden, but in USA or Great Britain +- $1000 Ok speakers, but you need Transporter, Dac1, Quad CDP etc to get the best of them. Then, the system will be expensive. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31843 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ripping Vinyl
Eric Seaberg;273529 Wrote: > The way they're configured, one is around $700k and the other @ $500k. > We're expecting an 'end-of-quarter' discount from SSL if we can commit > before the end of March. I spent all day in LA at SSL as well as some > visiting time with Ed Cherney in his room at The Village. A great > trip, all-in-all. Or others are free to answer. Is it right to say: When a analog wave, from for example a microphone is discovered by the ADC(analog to digital converter) the wave is first sampled/discovered as a 1bit audio. Then up sampled to for example 24bit? Asking this because the DSD format is 1bit/2.8224MHz. The word length is 1bit? Do sound engineer`s uppsample to 24bit primary to be able to use more tracks, equalisation etc when recording? -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21836 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB-3 and external DAC
http://extra.benchmarkmedia.com/wiki/index.php/Computer_Audio_Playback_-_Setup_Guide -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)
"The DAC1 is compatible with any 2-channel PCM data. Therefore, if a DVD video (or DVD audio or BlueRay or HD-DVD) is formated with 2-channel PCM audio, the DAC1 will convert it properly. Also, even if the audio on a disc is not PCM format, many DVD players will convert the audio to PCM" Is it the same rule for Transporter and most other dac`s? -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)
Jhon500? I posted your question in the headfi forum for you. I was curious my self. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)
>Would be good if it had the option of HT-Bypass on the analogue input (for integration with HT setup), I also wonder if it retains the auto turn on/off feature of the DAC1 USB model. Interesting. That question has not been asked yet, i think. I have only looked at pictures front/rear and reading the headfi thread. My friendly advice is to post the question in this thread in headfi forum http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f7/benchmark-dac1-now-available-usb-223006/index120.html Maybe the applicaton engineer or others will answer. I have posted some questions there my self. Like som of them above.Looking forward to read the answer here or there. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)
Quoted from this tread. EliasGwin Appliction enginner. The analog inputs of the DAC1 PRE are routed to both the unbalanced RCA outputs and the balanced XLR outputs. The main differences between the DAC1 PRE and the DAC1 USB: -DAC1 PRE has 5 digital inputs (USB, optical, coax(x3)) -DAC1 USB has 4 digital inputs (USB, optical, coax(x1), and XLR) -DAC1 PRE uses teflon chassis-mounted RCA analog and digital connectors -DAC1 USB uses PCB mounted RCA connectors -DAC1 PRE has 3 gain ranges for the HPA2 headphone amplifier -DAC1 USB has 2 gain ranges for the HPA2 headphone amplifier -DAC1 PRE uses National Instrument LM4562 opamps throughout the analog circuits -DAC1 USB uses 5532's every except the output drivers, which uses the 4562's -DAC1 PRE has power button -DAC1 USB does not have power button -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)
>it's not clear whether audio outputs are fixed or variable On the rear panel to the left DA1 PRE has a button switch control. You can switch between Output level-Calibrated, Mute, Variable. >What about balanced outputs, fixed or variable? I think a user have the possibility of selecting this. > Can the analog audio input be passed out through balanced outputs? There are two analog outputs. I hope it does. > In my experience, if one wants to go with the external DAC, than it's worth exploring the possibility to delete the preamp. And (again in my experience :) )analog volume control beats passive attenuation in usability. It deletes the need for a preamp. DAC1 PRE has a analog volume control. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)
>I'm still not sure if it has IR control. If it doesn't, I don't think it makes much sense as a pre-amp (in a home system). I agree. In a livingroom no remote control is a design miss. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What about New Benchmark DAC1 PRE(preamp)
Benchmark announces the DAC1 PRE Stereo Playback Pre-amplifier at T.H.E. Show at St. Tropez Suite 1103 during the CES show in Las Vegas, NV, January 7-10, 2008 http://www.computeraudiophile.com/node/121 Some discussion in headfi forum: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f7/benchmark-dac1-now-available-usb-223006/index118.html Many peaple in slimdevices forum use external dac`s. Any comments about this new DAC1 PRE? Positive or negative. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42135 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] High Frequency tone in the noise floor on SB3 R channel
Eric Carroll;173867 Wrote: > I just finished recommissioning my old Rotel system as the world's > largest distributed alarm clock in the bedroom. 180Wpc ought to wake me > up! > > My alarm clock configuration is SB3 -> Rotel RB-890 -> B&W Matrix 805 > bookshelf speakers. Note that the SB3 is about 6.5 dB hot on line > levels for the RB890 (1V input sensivity). I *do not* have proper > analog attenuators installed yet (still looking for an easily orderable > Canadian source), so the noise floor is definately double the volume it > should be. I have the Preamp Volume Control set to -6.5 dB to keep me > from being blown out of bed in the morning by accident. > > > Since the RB890 has no trigger I leave the amp on even when the SB3 is > in powered off mode (not really off...). The SB3 is set not to turn off > audio when "powered off". > > I have noticed that on the right channel only, with no music playing, > there is a perceptible high frequency tone. It is very low volume, > right in the noise floor. Because the room is so small and quiet, I do > hear it even a few feet away. My hearing has always been very sensitive > to very high audio frequencies (although this is definately falling off > as I age). > > I have tried the following steps to debug this: > 1. I swapped the R/L channels at the SB3. The tone follows the channel > (i.e. when I swapped L for R the tone moved to the L speaker). > 2. I flipped the SB3->RB890 RCA cable R/L on both sides. Problem > remained on the R channel. > 3. I tried a second SB3 I have on hand, same results. > 4. I moved the wall wart switcher PSU from right beside the amp to > around a corner, far away from the amp. > 5. I have changed the brightness levels. > > (1) implies the problem is either the SB3->RB890 interconnect cable or > the SB3 itself (problem moved channels, so it is not the amp or > interference on the speaker cables) > (2) eliminates one side of the cable as the problem (if it was the > cable problem should have moved to L channel). > > (4) requires more explaination because it is the only change that > impacts the tone I have made so far. > > The SB3 has 5 brightness levels (0 - off, 1-4 from dimmest to > brightest). > > On display brightness 0, 4, and 1 there is no tone that I can pick out. > Brightness 3 has the loudest tone. 2 is much less noticable. > > The pitch of the tone is related to how much text is displayed on the > SB3 screen (the tone changes between lots of text and a little text are > not large). > > If I had to guess i would say the R channel in the SB3 is picking up > some RFI from the computing cycles. > > This rates as a "nit" not a big problem, because I do not hear this > tone when playing music (usually at volume 40-50 right now). Its just > an issue when not playing music because I leave the amp powered up and > the tone is somewhat evident. Also I did *not* notice this in the > previous room that I had the SB3/RB890 in (now replaced by > Transporter/Bryston) - it was a much larger room and I was much further > away from the speakers. > > Has anyone else experienced this? > > Will this go away with proper attenuation? > > Are there any other suggestions to resolve this? Suggestion for attenuation. Have noe expirence with it my self, but i have read some pro audio/home studio use it or an other m - patch version. http://www.smproaudio.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=68 -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32045 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
opaqueice;226264 Wrote: > My point is very simple. Rounding errors like that can only affect the > last digit. So the worst thing that can happen is that the > volume-reduced result is off by an amount equal to half the 24th digit. > On the other hand the last three digits are lost in noise anyway for > the transporter (and it's worse for the SB). So the distortion due to > noise is always at least 16 times the amplitude of the distortion > induced by the digital rounding. > > Am I missing something? If your point is right you are not missing something. I do not have the gift to remember everything i read. Thats why i am discussing it(digital vs analog volum) here in this fourm whre there are peaple with more education, training. Using "my" calculator. Multiply 16bit decimal value 65535 with 0,35(%error) and converting it back to binary it only affect the last bit. Just likes as you explained. The higher wordlength and sample rate we have the less potential error distortion we get, when reproducing analog audio. If the uppsampling device is very good, or the audio line are correctly implemented - computer - software - dac - dac - amp - speakers. If you add wordlength and sample rate it can couse to much peak and distortion to treble and bass. Potentially. Every time we are using digital volumecontrol, i quote from the guide(dont know if it is allowed?): To apply gain or attenuation to a digital audio signal, a multiplication is performed on each digital sample that collectively create the digital audio signal. If we use 24bit/96khz in todays audio, we stays within the potential of 0,5% error, presumably. And only the last digit will be affected. But, if that is not trough ? I dont know. Peaple cant hear no difference. Transporter use digital volume(it must be good). I will use the analog volume and recommend the other users in this apartment to also use analog volumecontrol later. It is nice to know that software player - SB3 - is at 100% volum. It have being interesting and fun to discuss. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
The point is, there doesn't seem to be ANY real difference between analogue and digital volume controls, even in principle. opaqueice, I am interested in your meaning after reading the guide. If you have time, please read trough this section of this guide : Digital volumecontrols. http://extra.benchmarkmedia.com/wiki/index.php/Digital_volume_control A little quote form the guide :Disasterous distortion can potentially arise when a digital volume control is implemented Binary numbers, just like decimal numbers, do not always multiply and divide evenly. There are often remainders - extra digits that are a result of the multiplication. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
opaqueice;226140 Wrote: > I'm very confused by this discussion. According to Sean the TP can > resolve 21 bits, which means the last three are meaningless (and for > the SB it's considerably worse). Rounding errors from digital > attenuation can only ever affect the last bit. So what are we talking > about? > > I think it's ordinary signal/noise logic, which applies equally well to > analogue controls, that tells you not to turn down the volume too much. > The digital stuff is a red herring. Interesting question and reflection. Maybe the digital volumecontrol stuff is a red herring. >From an amateur audio filosopher point of veiw there was meaningful to mention that it is measurable mathematically, an decrease in audio quality when using digital volumecontrol. Even though you cant hear it. Thats how i express it after reading the guide linked in an earlier post. There are peaple that prefer analog volumecontrol and those who dont. The same with proffessinoal audio producers(both analog and digital). If the transporter have digital volumecontrol ? Maybe it is bechause the digital is good enouhg ? It would be fine to have a final conclusion : Does digital volumecontrol resoult in decrease in audioquality ? Is it just measurable mathematically ? -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
darrenyeats;226133 Wrote: > LOL! Brilliant. > > Yeah, what happens is that 8 bits can represent 2^8 states (256). That > means numbers 0 to 255 - since 0 is one of the states. > > So 8 bits can represent any number up to 2^8-1. 16 bits can represent > any number up to 2^16-1 etc. > > Regards, Darren No i had an other wake up call at 14:37 Regards, eiret -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
>PS: Eiret, I'm glad your calculator agrees with me that upscaling from 16 bit to 24 bit multiplies the numbers by 256 :-) Yes, the calculator agree approximately. There is a bit missing. I dont remember why. To day i had a wake up call at 11:11, its true. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
> If you think you are going to actually hear a 1 in 16 million error...you are wrong! As i pointed out before. Maybe not audible. It is measureable mathematically according to the guide that was linked in my post. It can be more than 1 bit and sample rates, or just maybe only loss of sample rates ? >Anyway, as you obviously seem to think that Benchmark wrote the book on audio - which they didn't - why don't you buy a DAC1 and enjoy its mathematical superiority? :o) I will. If some engineers write a guide(if they are)under benchmarks name, i think they know what they are talking about. I am an amateur who like to read guides, so i can get some knowledge. There are also other good dac`s out there, and guides too. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
darrenyeats;226041 Wrote: > > eiret;226036 Wrote: > > > > > > So, in your example, the sound amplitude is represented as 21. > > > > But if you multiply 21 by 256 first (which is like what happens when > > you upsample from 16 bits to 24 bits) the amplitude is now represented > > by 5376. Divide 5376 by 2 and you get 2688 which is still a whole > > number. > > > > That is why upsampling is done before the volume control is > > applied...what would have been "16 bit fractions" are handled > > properly. > > Darren> > > > > 8bit = 255 > 16bit = 65535 > 24bit = 16777215 > start-programs-accesories-calculator-push advanced-place a tick on > bin-type 8bits -place a tick on dec=255 > Do the same again with 16 1`s and 24 1`s. > > What happens when you do not get whole numbers in 24bit(16777215)? A > little bit distortion. Maybe not audible. > > There is a reason why benchmark dac1 has an analog volumcontrol. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
cliveb;226016 Wrote: > Presumably you are referring to the "digital volume control" section in > the "computer audio playback setup guide", > > Here is the mathematic : EXAMPLE (decimal numbers are used for > simplicity): > When multipling 21 by 0.5 (equation: 21 * 0.5), the result is 10.5. > The result (10.5) requires three digits to represent it, where as the > two multiples (21 and 0.5) only had two digits. > > Se below on this side : > http://extra.benchmarkmedia.com/wiki/index.php/Digital_volume_control -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
cliveb;226016 Wrote: > Presumably you are referring to the "digital volume control" section in > the "computer audio playback setup guide", and have noted this > sentence: > > Please note the very important words "can" and "potentially" in this > sentence. Just because something *can* happen doesn't mean it *will*. > > > If the analogue volume control is implemented with a precision stepped > attenuator using carefully matched resistors, then that's true. > (Although whether the difference will be audible is debateable). > > But if the analogue volume control is implemented with any kind of > potentiometer, I seriously doubt it. Even the finest potentiometers > have tracking inaccuracies far worse than the rounding errors resulting > from a 24 bit digital volume control. I agree, here is an another link about clean audio installation. I don`t understand all the tecnic`s but there are many others who do : http://www.benchmarkmedia.com/caig/html/ -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
Phil Leigh;225999 Wrote: > I'm not quite sure who these "experts" are that you refer to, but I'd > take more notice of the fact that some of the nicest setups in use on > this forum are using a TP directly into active speakers such as > ATC100's. These are very revealing setups. Clearly the "experts" are > wrong (yet again) because these folks are using the digital volume > control and seem quite happy. > > Of course 16 bit uses all 16 bits all the time and 24 bit uses all 24. > Digital level control at 16-bit is a crude device... however, the SB, > TP and any decent digital gear will upgrade an incoming 16 bit signal > to 24 bit before applying level adjustment. As the designer of the > SB/TP - Sean - pointed out in an a recent post, the TP can resolve to > 21 bits, beyond which is random noise. > > Applying digital level adjustment to a 24-bit signal (native or > upgraded from 16-bit) is fine. It works. Try it and see. This is not > about maths, it's about music. > > You really ought to take a trip to a studio sometime - it would be an > eye-opener...all the levels are being manipulated digitally nowadays - > and that's before you ever get to hear it. So that great sounding vocal > or guitar or whatever will already have had its level adjusted in this > manner. If it was really the musically destructive process that the > experts claim, people woudn't use it ! > > > If I had no pre-amp I'd be very happy to use attenuators to set the max > level approximately and then use the digital level control to adjust to > taste. Very Happy. The experts are here http://extra.benchmarkmedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page I think they are making reference to finished recordings. CD, DVD, Computer Audio Playback - wav, flac...not during the acutal producing of the master tapes. Some prefer analog volume control in studio too, i think(not being in a studio). You are quiet right regarding digital volumecontrol in studio. For the most of them. It is measureable mathematically that analog is better on the finished product. That said, i am bad in math(thats why i am refering to experts). I am using SB3 directly in to Quad 12l Active and are quiet happy my self, listening to music. I will use analog volume control later. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
eiret;225972 Wrote: > I am not an audiophile, i post here anyway. > Experts recommend analog volum control and digital volum set to 100%. > You are all agree about that i think. Since you cant hear any decrease > in audio quality when using digital volume compare to analog volum > control, i think we are using 24 or 16 bit all the time(16/24bit > recording). > > Bechause i think we need all the bits anyway if we are using 40% volum > or 90% volum. This is an 8 bit example : > 00101000 = 40% volum01011010 = 90% volum To me, digitally thinking, > we use every bit either using 40% or 90% of the volum. Bechause the > zeroes 0`s are also bits. > > Remember, i am not an computer/bit expert neither an audiophile, but > this is my thoughts, contribution. If i am wrong i will not be hurt he > he ..:) BUT, i will use analog volume control when i eventually get one. Just to get the best audio quality mathematical binary thinking. It is measurable mathematically. But that is not the same as saying it is audible, that you can hear it. Maybe you must have an $200 000 equipment to hear the difference. It IS measurable. Something to do with the binary 2 - number system. It cant be as accurat as 10 - number system. I forgot my earlier reading. You can read about it here somewhere : http://extra.benchmarkmedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
I am not an audiophile, i post here anyway. Experts recommend analog volum control and digital volum set to 100%. You are all agree about that i think. Since you cant hear any decrease in audio quality when using digital volume compare to analog volum control, i think we are using 24 or 16 bit all the time(16/24bit recording). Bechause i think we need all the bits anyway if we are using 40% volum or 90% volum. This is an 8 bit example : 00101000 = 40% volum01011010 = 90% volum To me, digitally thinking, we use every bit either using 40% or 90% of the volum. Bechause the zeroes 0`s are also bits. Remember, i am not an computer/bit expert neither an audiophile, but this is my thoughts, contribution. If i am wrong i will not be hurt he he ..:) -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 & Audioengine 5 combo...
If you should walk by a stereo shop with Quad 12L Active, i recommend to have a listen. They sound very well when palying jazz, achoustic band, blues. But for high volum heavy metal they are not good.With SB3 analog out. You proberly have bought Audioengine 5 already. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38183 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best digital output... Coax or Tos?
Thats bechause, in optical and toslink the bits are sendt as light signals. You can actually see a stearin candle light that is on a distance of 100km on the other side of optical glass. The problem is : the 1n`s tend to be crooked, loopsided at the upper end. The 0`s tend to be rectangular in the lower end. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38188 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best digital output... Coax or Tos?
The problem is : the 1n`s tend to be crooked, loopsided at the upper end. The 0`s tend to be rectangular in the lower end.[/QUOTE Wrote: > > > Its a joke !! > I read it in a norwegian av forum -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38188 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best digital output... Coax or Tos?
With this little thing, you get one more input choise on the dac. If you not already have used XLR(aes) input. http://www.odysseyaudiohk.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1160836250 They are confusing female dwith male i think, maybe a writing error. Havent tried it yet.I have ordered one myself. Think this is the right one.https://www.tri-tones.net/p-1542-bcj-xp-trb-transformer-bnc-xlrm-75-110-ohm-canare.aspx The seller should contact me after forwarding my mail to whirlwind. Havent heard any thing after two days. Little expencive for me bechause of the transport to Norway, and maybe vat-custom. Maybe i should save for RME HDSP 9632 soundcard. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38188 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates
0010 .. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker
opaqueice, thank you for an good explanation of the pehnomen. Then, the dac must have quality AJC`s anti jitter circuits. There has been a pritty big industry in measurment, preventing jitter. Just being on the wikipedia site. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37557 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker
Just curious. I hope you are happy with the pace - car. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37557 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker
Just for the curiousity. Are you a part of the pace - car engineer team, or just a end user ? -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37557 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates
2 Just making this post at least 10 cahracters. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates
Staying on topic is of course best for the poor person who maybe ask for help. And other who reads threads. It can be fun to read about off topic arguing too sometimes it is even useful information. I have had off topic post a couple of times :) If somebody correct me i willl not be hurt :) Computer audio hifi is interesting and it is fun to discuss. It is easy sometimes to be carried away and forget the topic. Off topic posts is just to ignore and ask a relevant question again or wait for meaningful answer. We are just humans playing with some robot a`like things called computers. We are not the robots yet. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker
It is an great respect for Empirical Audio AND for Benchmark Audio products. I am just an amateur reading reviews and forums and deciding what is the best setup for me $$. And posting some thoughts and questions. Both Benchmark Audio and Empirical Audio are good products, no dought. I have 2 computers 1 SB3 QUAD 12L ACTIVE http://www.quad-hifi.co.uk/model.php?sector_id=2&range_id=5&model_id=23 Whith Benchmark DAC1 USB i can connect 2 computers and Squeezebox to the DAC and also have an headphone amp. And the QUADS have XLR inputs. Benchmark DAC1 USB has special XLR outputs for studiomonitors. As far as i know the Benchmark dont use as much CPU and RAM as an software upsampler Empirical use do(that said at the risk of misquote again). I will go for Benchmark DAC1 USB later next week. I am waiting for an spdif to XLR(aes) transformer. Hard to get here in Norway. No i have to get some things done. Have only had time to rip 2 cd`s he he while reading reviews and forums about software player. etc and hardware. Foobar EAC Lame mp3 Flac - SB3 Benchmark DAC1 USB QUAD 12L Active is my choise. No i have to work with this tools, not just read forums and reviews, i have finally made an decision about software and hardware. Its time to learn to use the tools. I will post questions in the beginners forum. Eiret - Norway -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37557 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker
"100% jitter immune" is not the same as "100% jitter free". R.[/QUOTE Wrote: > > > Ok, thats right. > > What is this meaning of this sentence: "In fact, no jitter-induced > artifacts can be detected using an Audio Precision System 2 Cascade > test set" -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37557 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker
DCtoDaylight;224074 Wrote: > I was refering to: > > which we both seem to agree is impossible. I didn't check if the > Benchmark web site actually states this, or if this is a misquote, but > my point still stands, ALL dac's have jitter of differing degrees. > > Cheers, Dave Sorry it is a MISQUOTE. It is nearly 100% jitter free. That IS a difference. Taken from Benchmarks website. The Benchmark UltraLock system is nearly 100% jitter immune. The D/A conversion clock is totally isolated from the input digital audio clock in a topology that outperforms two-stage PLL designs. In fact, no jitter-induced artifacts can be detected using an Audio Precision System 2 Cascade test set. One man posted in a tread in another forum. He worked in a studio. Dont remember where or when. His statement of claim was that jitter dos not exsist. It is something the pro audio hardware industry has invented to earn more money on hardware sales. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37557 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Empirical Audio Pace-Car Reclocker
Interesting test/article. This Steven Nudget(Emperica Audio) coming from Intel and silicon valley has knowledge about dac`s, circuits, opamps. No doubt. Same with the engineers at BenchmarkMedia. They are on an collision course, maybe. They both want to engineer good dac`s, but Steven Nudget goes for uppsampling on the computer and Benchmark engineers goes for uppsampling natively in their dac`s. Benchmark DA1 USB does completely seperate the data from the clock. No audible jitter. The digital part of the convert uppsamples to 110khz and the analog part downsamples to an audible range. Dont know the samplerate ? http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=digital&n=94575 Benchmark recommends to remove all dsp plugins and other plugins from foobar to eliminate loss in word lengt- bith depth - sample rate. If our goal is to hear as exact as we can, what the producer engineers produced on the cd. Bitperfect. They clame that the Benchmark DAC1 USB dont have any jitter at all and the audio will sound the same coming from harddrive, cd player, dvd player connected to Benchmark DAC1 USB. So why use software to uppsample in the computer. Using CPU and RAM resources when the Benchmark do it so well. http://extra.benchmarkmedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Or maybe the Empirical Audios software uppsampling on the computer is the best way ? The best way to decide would be to borrow products from Slim Devides, Benchmark, Empirical and have our own test in oour own audio set up. But that`s not easy to succed. Therefore it is fun and useful to read reviews and forums. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37557 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beating a dead horse: choosing SPDIF cables
Just for the couriosity. http://www.venhaus1.com/diycatfivecables.html -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37983 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Computer Audio Playback : Studio Master Flac Downoads
It is good that Linn Records are publishing studio master quality audio for common peaple. If it is of interest we can download and play with the mouse. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37979 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Computer Audio Playback : Studio Master Flac Downoads
Okay, that sounds interesting. Maybe this the way of getting the best possible sound from albums in the future. Strange to think about how audio bits can travel all over the world on the internet without decrease in sound quality. If you have a good enoug audio set up at home. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37979 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Computer Audio Playback : Studio Master Flac Downoads
I have not bin doing a research studies about theese filetypes. I am just reading a little bit here and there and dont get so much done. Just a little bit in between. I dont know how good this files sound or if you can here any difference, but post your results here i you wish. There is not so many albums to download yet, but http://www.linnrecords.com/linn-help-download-download-quality-and-file-type.aspx -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37979 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AES/EBU -> RCA digital cable for Transporter.
http://www.tri-tones.net/pm-130-2-canare-bcj-xj-trb-xlrf-to-bnc-and-bcj-xp-trb-xlrm-to-bnc-adapters.aspx -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37791 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Link to GUIDE: Computer Audio Playback
http://extra.benchmarkmedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37826 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Windows VOLUME
Sorry impossible to read the text in the picture. I will find a workaround later. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37580 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Windows VOLUME
I was in properties sound/sound devices. Everything related to volume is set to max/best. I must say that i use softsqueeze when using Softsqueeze when using Squeezebox. Havent tried to implement Winamp or other in Slimserver yet. Using Winamp or Windows mediaplayer throug M - audio revolution 7.1 soundcard when whatcing movies and just tried some cd`s. Windows sound properties have found the soundcard. It is just that the sound is mouch higher in Winamp in the other softwareplayers. Looks like hte soundcard and Winamp are getting more gain than souncard and Windows mediaplayer. I dont know much about soundcodecs but here are they i have in controlpanel - properties sounddiveces - hardware - soundcodecs - properties - properties again.If you click on one codec and then properties, you get the choise to make the marked codec priority from 1 - 12. Which of them shoud the 1. priority. +---+ |Filename: coded.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3136| +---+ -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37580 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Windows VOLUME
Another strange thing. Not using Squeezebox Slimserver. Windows Meiaplayer lost volumepowwer. Like in decrease of how high i can turn the volume knob ---(in windows mediaplayer). Active monitors volume knob are turned to 50%. To get high volume, like that neighbours dont like, not really that high, but high enough to dance. I have to turn the volume knob in Windows Mediaplayer to 100%. Compare to before, when i hade to just turn the volume knob to about 40%. An decrease in 60%. SAME SETTINGS, when using WINAMP, i have to turn the volumeknob 20% to reach really loud volume. Squeezebox - Softsqueeze Slimserver player are a little to slow getting volume higts too, compare to WINAMP. Whit actve monitors turned to 50% i hav to turn volum knob in softsqueeze to 90%. I dont think this is normal compared to Winamp whre i have to stop at 30 - 40%. Looks like Winamp gets allmosst all the volume gain from windows. Anybody that have any ideas ow how to fix this, so Squeezebox, WinsowsMedia player can get the same volume gain as Winamp ? -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37580 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SqueezeBox + computer + QUAD 12L Active + DAC
I have a few questions, but i am not an audiophile high - end user or expert. So the questions maybe appear stupid. Anyway, i will be wery pleased if you take your time and answer. I am considering a purschase of Quad 12L Active studio monitors http://www.whats-new-at-totallywired.com/march2007news.html. When they comes to dealer in Norway. I know, they are primary ment for use in music - recording not audiophile lissening. I will listen to them connected to my computer first. The setup will be computer - Squeezebox - 12L`s ative - possibly with an external DAC in the future in this line of setup. Computer Squeezebox 12L`s active. Where shoud the external DAC be placed ? I think computer - Squeezebox - (here)DAC - 12L`s active. If i`m wrong, make it rihgt for me please. In this case of set up, will the computer soundcards quatilty and DAC`s have an impact of the sound ? Will the computers soundcard just be a transporter of audio bits. Soundcard is M - audio revolution 7.1 with only mini jack`s, but have digital out SP/DIF (or is it coaxil out ?). http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Revolution71-main.html Will a card like M - audiphile 24/192 give better result in a audophile matter ? http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Audiophile192-main.html Is digital out the same as SP/DIF ? If so, when using this SP/DIF connection, do i bypass the soundcards DAC`s ? Maybe thats the point, if my goal is to acheive best possible stereo audio with use of extarnal DAC`s and Squeezebox with this equipment? Try to correct me if i`m wrong. How do i connect this gear ? Then, if SP/DIF bypasses DAC`s, do i have to use analog outs from the external DAC`s connected directelly to the 12L`s active ? Is it DAC`s in amplifiers ? If it is, can i use the DAC`s on the 12L`s active amplifier instead of an external DAC ? Will an external DAC give better audio resolution ? Is it possible to get use of several DAC`s for example 2 - 3 ? Can you help us providing a guide on how to connect computer - Squeezebox - extarnal DAC - 12L active`s ? What kind of cables form soundcard - Squeezebox - external DAC - 12L active`s. What kind of cable from what kind of output/input. Do only need a guide on how to connect this gear. Software and drivers i will install quite well, i think. What kind of mods to Squeezebox 3 do you suggest, with this gear ? After maybe just reading spesifications of this gear do you think it will be better audo resolutions, after modding SB3 and with use of external DAC ? What kind of external DAC do you suggest ? Can I use MHdt Labs Paradisea + when I dont have tube amplifier ? Do I have to go for MHT Labs Constantine ? First I have to purschase the 12L active and the Squeezebox. Then I have to save some money 3 4 mounts before I purschase a DAC. And some money saving again so i can afford a mod on the Squeezebox. I am living alone with my 15 years old son and sometimes some of his friends in the same 25 squaremeter room. So we both need a decent sound since we have to listen to each others music taste either we will or not. But we like the same music pretty often. If the sound is okay we both will have a nice time. Me and my son will be wery pleased for answers to these questions. Best regards Terje and Daniel -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=35176 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
